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Re: Managers in England
« Reply #1160 on: October 08, 2019, 04:08:48 pm »
Highly doubt they would come back in for him, he did speak to them initially and turned it down, not much has changed for them, other than conman Bain being ousted.

However, IF they did, McInnes should absolutely take it, best for us and himself that he did.

Would then beg the question, would we trust the Board to get his replacement right.

It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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« Reply #1161 on: October 08, 2019, 04:39:09 pm »
Ross becoming available now would surely be too good an opportunity for Hearts to miss out on?

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Re: Managers in England
« Reply #1162 on: October 08, 2019, 04:42:42 pm »
Highly doubt they would come back in for him, he did speak to them initially and turned it down, not much has changed for them, other than conman Bain being ousted.

However, IF they did, McInnes should absolutely take it, best for us and himself that he did.

Would then beg the question, would we trust the Board to get his replacement right.

 Comes a point when you just have to take that plunge.It would have been best for all if Derek had left on good terms at the end of last season with his stock still high,but while the signs were there that his time was up.Unless a manager is performing exceptionally,6 years in a job these days is longer than most.How Milne(or Derek) didnt spot the signs is a mystery,compounded by the 3 year extension. Ive no desire to see McInnes hounded out of his job,but it looks like it could get messy unless he pulls something off quickly.
   Do i trust Milne to appoint the right man? Nuh!! We just have to hope he flukes the right appointment
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Re: Managers in England
« Reply #1163 on: October 08, 2019, 05:01:18 pm »
Can’t we just send McInnes to Sunderland and take Ross?

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Re: Managers in England
« Reply #1164 on: October 08, 2019, 05:26:43 pm »

 Ive got a panel van he could be bundled into the back of....

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« Reply #1165 on: October 08, 2019, 05:28:17 pm »
Comes a point when you just have to take that plunge.It would have been best for all if Derek had left on good terms at the end of last season with his stock still high,but while the signs were there that his time was up.Unless a manager is performing exceptionally,6 years in a job these days is longer than most.How Milne(or Derek) didnt spot the signs is a mystery,compounded by the 3 year extension. Ive no desire to see McInnes hounded out of his job,but it looks like it could get messy unless he pulls something off quickly.
   Do i trust Milne to appoint the right man? Nuh!! We just have to hope he flukes the right appointment

Cormack would be involved in the process of recruiting a new Manger now though, wouldn't he?

Can't say I know anything about the guy in all honesty, but he's a supporter and he's invested in the Club, obviously Milne has as well, but many question his actual interest when it comes to the Club, could the same be said about Cormack? Would he not be more sensible in something like appointing a Manager etc... Personally, I have no idea.

Something I am absolutely positive on though, is that we would not have a shortage of Applicants, it's then up to them to get it right.
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Re: Managers in England
« Reply #1166 on: October 08, 2019, 05:44:23 pm »
Interesting to see that Jack was sacked with a record of P74 W39 D25 L10. Really not that bad a record especially given they had to rebuild a team in his first season.

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« Reply #1167 on: October 08, 2019, 06:05:24 pm »
Full tank of diesel in the motor this morning, more than enough to drive Derek down and Jack up the road.
Happy to give up a day of self employment to make this happen
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« Reply #1168 on: October 08, 2019, 07:45:05 pm »
Those stats aren't bad, but as someone said elsewhere, it's the draws that have killed him. I'd happily see us give him a go.

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« Reply #1169 on: October 08, 2019, 08:49:13 pm »
Don't see us going for Ross. Can absolutely see Hearts going for him though

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Re: Managers in England
« Reply #1170 on: November 19, 2019, 07:51:25 pm »
Ooft, Pochettino sacked.

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« Reply #1171 on: November 20, 2019, 07:27:11 am »
Ooft, Pochettino sacked.

And the special one in.

Last chance saloon for the biggest head in world football history. There is no doubt that he used to be exceptional. Sustaining excellence is hard when you get in your own way however. One of the most fascinating appointments ever. If he succeeds, I will take my hat off to him. If he fails, his flame will have been spent. I couldn't make a call on this one. It could literally go either way. Pretty sure that it'll take less than 12 games before it does become highly predictable however. He's too out there not to be able to read his signs. How much the players love him will be the biggest influence and as long as he buries his arrogance and his narcissism, he will have a chance. Not sure leopards can change their spots as much as he needs to change his. 
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« Reply #1172 on: November 20, 2019, 07:39:26 am »
Last night the Spurs fans were saying that they did not want Pochettino sacked and definitely did not want Mourinho or his brand of football coming in. Massive gamble by Spurs board as if this does not work quickly can see their being a lot of empty seats at their expensive new stadium.

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« Reply #1173 on: November 20, 2019, 02:18:39 pm »
I can only see failure here. Mourinho is not a modern manager. 10-15 years ago yes, but not now. Plus he will not be given the time he needs - a mourinho team needs mourinho players and that will take a fair few transfer windows.

Crazy appointment by spurs.

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« Reply #1174 on: November 20, 2019, 10:49:14 pm »
Harry Kane's sickly tweet was revealing.

He was thanking his "Gaffer" for helping him "achieve his dreams" over the last 5.5 years.

I know 'Arry is pig shit thick and over-rated but fuck knows what he dreams about?

Last time I looked, he's never won fuck all.
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Re: Managers in England
« Reply #1175 on: November 21, 2019, 08:31:38 am »
Harry Kane's sickly tweet was revealing.

He was thanking his "Gaffer" for helping him "achieve his dreams" over the last 5.5 years.

I know 'Arry is pig shit thick and over-rated but fuck knows what he dreams about?

Last time I looked, he's never won fuck all.

Correct. He's achieved fuck all yet. I don't doubt that he will though. Assuming he's smart enough to move. He'll be the Spurs and England all time top scorer by some distance before too long but unless he moves he'll win fuck all with Spurs or with England.

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Re: Managers in England
« Reply #1176 on: November 21, 2019, 09:23:02 am »
Correct. He's achieved fuck all yet. I don't doubt that he will though. Assuming he's smart enough to move. He'll be the Spurs and England all time top scorer by some distance before too long but unless he moves he'll win fuck all with Spurs or with England.

I agree with the Spurs part. However with England? They've got a fantastic group of youngsters starting to establish themselves in the international set up. With home advantage next year they might just have a decent shot at winning the European championship. My apathy with the international game, brought on by watching Scotland's 30 year decline into utter dross has also caused me to no longer even caring if England win, such has my ABE enthusiasm waned.

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« Reply #1177 on: November 21, 2019, 01:52:30 pm »
I agree with the Spurs part. However with England? They've got a fantastic group of youngsters starting to establish themselves in the international set up. With home advantage next year they might just have a decent shot at winning the European championship. My apathy with the international game, brought on by watching Scotland's 30 year decline into utter dross has also caused me to no longer even caring if England win, such has my ABE enthusiasm waned.


I live in fear of England winning but luckily they won't any time soon. They do have some good players. Most of them are vastly overrated by the Sky "Best League in the World" Sports brigade.

They don't have a decent goalkeeper. That wee ned prick Pickford isn't up to much.

TAA as a full back is class but he's in the minority.
Harry Maguire is hugely overrated. Man Utd panic-spunked £80m on him and he's not fit to lace the boots of a proper world class centre back. Same goes for John Stones. Both failing to impress at their respective Manchester clubs. Who else plays at CB? Jones? Smalling? Mings? Half decent players at best. Not sure who they'd have as the other full back. Rose is fucking shite but I don't think he gets picked anymore does he?

Midfield they have Divey Ali who's another vastly overrated player and has done fuck all for the past few years apart from moan and play Fortnite. Henderson's limitations are well-known although he's a decent player no doubt. He's in the same bracket as Oxlade Chamberlain in those terms. Who else is there? Declan Rice? ??? Barkley? Drinkwater? Excuse me whilst I shite myself.

Raheem Sterling and Harry Kane are the other two who you could argue are world class (certainly Raheem Sterling. What a player he is). No one else in the England setup stands out on the world stage for me and no one should be scared of them. Maddison has a lot of potential and there are others with potential like Mount and Abraham but in my opinion they're miles away from the likes of France or Germany. Odoi might be in this bracket too but I've never laid eyes on the cunt so how good could he be?

Let's not forget in the last world cup they had the easiest run to the final of all time and still fucked it up.

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« Reply #1178 on: November 22, 2019, 11:56:08 am »
I can only see failure here. Mourinho is not a modern manager. 10-15 years ago yes, but not now. Plus he will not be given the time he needs - a mourinho team needs mourinho players and that will take a fair few transfer windows.

Crazy appointment by spurs.

A lot of people seem to have invented this thing about Mourinho being out of date and past his best but it was only four years ago that his team won the english league.  I don't think he is a spent force by no means and can see Spurs challenging for the league next year.  They were in the Champions League final just six months ago with Pochettino at the healm and Mourinho is a better manager than he will ever be.  Jose was laughed at for his work at Man Utd but last time I checked his successor was 18 points off the top after just 12 games so maybe his job there was not as bad as everyone made out.  Two trophies in two years is not all that bad. 9/1 for Spurs to win this years FA Cup is particularly tempting.

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« Reply #1179 on: November 22, 2019, 01:21:45 pm »
A lot of people seem to have invented this thing about Mourinho being out of date and past his best but it was only four years ago that his team won the english league.  I don't think he is a spent force by no means and can see Spurs challenging for the league next year.  They were in the Champions League final just six months ago with Pochettino at the healm and Mourinho is a better manager than he will ever be.  Jose was laughed at for his work at Man Utd but last time I checked his successor was 18 points off the top after just 12 games so maybe his job there was not as bad as everyone made out.  Two trophies in two years is not all that bad. 9/1 for Spurs to win this years FA Cup is particularly tempting.

Foreign managers don't give a fuck about domestic cup competitions. 9/1 is shite. He turned Man Utd into a dreadful team to watch and the results weren't justifying the performances. He's lucky that OGS has made him look not as bad by being even more shite.

Mourinho might do well at Spurs but I can also see this being the first job he's taken where he'll win fuck all and be gone before too long.