Mmm, getting a bit close to home.

 

Confirmed case in Kilmarnock and a sheltered housing scheme in lock down.

 

Testing centre set up at Crosshouse Hospital.

 

Cue the cranking up of panic.

 

Still astounded that some folk need told they should always wash their hands after going to the toilet 

Not everything's a conspiracy, my jacobite friend ? You don't half work yourself into a frenzy about these things. Who can forget your conspiracy theories about the handwringers. The Sultans are keeping a close eye on you to make sure you keep to your best behaviour.

Why would anyone other than the vulnerable be “forced” to get vaccinated? Doesn’t make sense. 

2 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

Why would anyone other than the vulnerable be “forced” to get vaccinated? Doesn’t make sense. 

That is radical thinking in these times, especially in the US!

41 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

Why would anyone other than the vulnerable be “forced” to get vaccinated? Doesn’t make sense. 

Well we bought 90 million of them. They have to be used up.

Donald Trump! Any chance he’s got underlying health conditions? Asking for a friend. 

3 hours ago, Kowalski said:

Donald Trump! Any chance he’s got underlying health conditions? Asking for a friend. 

If there is a god, now is the time to prove it! 

It's:

1) looking for sympathy

2) Avoiding the debates

9 minutes ago, Madbadteacher said:

It's:

1) looking for sympathy

2) Avoiding the debates

3) Give more time to rig the election

 

Time to prove your theory Donald

Well hes off to Hospital now.

Yup. The “mild symptoms” escalated quickly. Always sounded a bit more serious as he hadn’t tweeted. 

He’s old and fat. 
 

And has access to ridiculously expensive health care for free.

 

Smoke and mirrors IMHO

There’s definitely some smoke and mirrors. But mainly from Trump’s doctor!

I’d say I’m surprised he was discharged as early as he was, but I’m really not. Incredibly selfish putting those that are forced to work around him in imminent danger. Hopefully he suffers some serious consequences. 

We (NZ) seem to be under attack by right wing nut jobs on twitter.  Seem to be trying to portray NZ as a fascist state ? honestly, comparing us to Nazi Germany. WTF is wrong with RW yanks? Are they seriously that thick? 

2 hours ago, manc_don said:

We (NZ) seem to be under attack by right wing nut jobs on twitter.  Seem to be trying to portray NZ as a fascist state ? honestly, comparing us to Nazi Germany. WTF is wrong with RW yanks? Are they seriously that thick? 

They voted for Trump......

7 hours ago, Jute said:

They voted for Trump......

Good point, well made. Silly of me to even question it.

Looks like another U-turn by the fuckwits down south. Bugs me how BBC news seem to keep saying 'full UK lockdown' then at the end of their reports mention the devolved nations are doing things differently. 

Might be being clouded by my increasing dislike of englandshire but I seem to recall the devolved nations being criticised and then mocked for not following the clusterfuck half asses approach and basically letting their citizens do what they like. Not a fan of schadenfreude outside of the world of sports but I am finding it creeping in with how the respective government approaches.
The footage from Nottingham the other day added more evidence to my ever increasing belief the majority of the humans are thick as fuck. Sad part is the thick ones are now in charge. 
Remember when evil bastards used to at least have a bit of IQ about them?

Boris is being shown to be the incompetent buffoon that anyone with half a brain knew he was. Scientists told him a month ago he needed yet he again failed act quickly enough.

When Nicola said she was concerned about ‘minks’ spreading the virus, I thought to myself, at last, she’s going to clamp down on the Glasgow area.

Turns out it was actual minks in Denmark she was banging on about.

So what's the deal with the vaccine's.  I've sort of stopped following the news as it was getting me down a fair bit (weather was horrific, even by Wellington standards in November). I presume it'll be a phased roll out? Not been much press coverage here about what happens when the vaccine becomes available and whether our borders will open it to those who have had it.  I'm guessing you'd still be a potential carrier of the virus?

Phased roll out to Care Home staff, over 80s and then NHS staff in first batch. One of the unknowns of the vaccine is if you can still be a carrier after inoculation. The biggest issue with this vaccine is the need to be stored -70 so shipping to enough locations for mass vaccinations will be difficult. Do get the feeling Boris has signed us up to be the Worlds guinea pigs on this.

4 hours ago, Jute said:

Phased roll out to Care Home staff, over 80s and then NHS staff in first batch. One of the unknowns of the vaccine is if you can still be a carrier after inoculation. The biggest issue with this vaccine is the need to be stored -70 so shipping to enough locations for mass vaccinations will be difficult. Do get the feeling Boris has signed us up to be the Worlds guinea pigs on this.

Much as I hate Johnson, I think the real reason we're ramming this through is just another form of English exceptionalist behaviour. We'll only be a few days before other countries, so I doubt we'll be guinea pigs as such. It's all about being able to say we were first. Childish, populist shite that you'd expect fae the yanks.

I don't like the idea of a mandatory vaccine, but I understand it. Thing is, if I've already had covid (I haven't) do I still need to get it? If I were given the chance of getting the vaccine, or being infected with covid and two weeks isolation I'd take the latter given my age and health. I have no doubt that the vaccine will be safe, but I'd rather have my body work past it itself. I understand the logic in not doing that of course.

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/historian-highlights-eerie-parallels-between-reactions-to-cholera-and-covid19-outbreaks/

50k+ infections per day at the moment, which likely means significantly higher. Where do we go now with this? Lockdown until February, but what then? We're not getting out of this anytime soon. There's no mechanism I can see that will get infections low enough to contain with our world beating...etc. 

I think we'll get to a certain point in the vaccine program, and from that point (say, over seventies and the most vulnerable done*) the government will declare that the rate of infection, based on the science (astrology), is now low enough for restrictions to be lifted. After a few weeks, things will get out of control again, but it will be allowed to run through the population herd immunity style (whilst blaming the public). It'll then move into line with the seasonal flu and be treated thus. Vaccines will continue, but will not be largely ignored - like the flu jab - by swathes of the population who've already had covid anyway.

I think it'll be brutal. It already is. I don't believe that with the new variant we allowed to develop (made in the UK!) there is a mechanism to open society for business without the infection rate soaring in a short space of time. I don't see anyway possible for me to get the vaccine before I get covid (I'm low risk, I'm not worried for myself, but definitely for family and friends). Anyone else think differently, or can see a solution?

*Vaccinated, nae deid.