DT Politics Thread

[TheDonbytheDee]

23 hours ago, Kowalski said:

It’s a load of bollocks. He’s getting a harder time than people who are actually in the files. 

Mandelson more than helped Starmer become Labour leader and ultimately Prime Minister, by getting rid of Corbyn and the manner in which it was done.

Starmer knew about Mandelson and Epstein, but still rewarded him with the Ambassadors role to the US.

Everything Mandelson touches turns to shit.

Karma's a bitch.

[TheDonbytheDee]

2 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

He’s made a complete arse of it but who do Labour think they’re replacing him with? The ring wing press will be going all out for a GE so they can get Reform in. 

Burnham will be found a seat, become leader and lead them into 2029.

Rayner could be another option, but not with the tax thing hanging over her.

[Mason89]

Andy Burnham might’ve saved the party but of course, they fucked him over too 

Big Brain 4D chess politics from the adults in the room 

[TheDonbytheDee]

Can't amend the above post, in reply to Kowalski, but the fall of Farage will be a great day.

It will come, it may well be with them in office, but his fall will be from a great height and when he does fall, others will fall with him.

Bring it on.

[tlg1903]

2 hours ago, Mason89 said:

Andy Burnham might’ve saved the party but of course, they fucked him over too 

Big Brain 4D chess politics from the adults in the room 

The labour party died with John Smith, there's nothing to save. 

[Mason89]

12 minutes ago, tlg1903 said:

The labour party died with John Smith, there's nothing to save. 

It was quite handy, him dying when he did. A bit like David Kelly and Robin Cook 

New Labour was always lucky like that 

[tlg1903]

56 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

It was quite handy, him dying when he did. A bit like David Kelly and Robin Cook 

New Labour was always lucky like that 

My biggest political regret is voting Labour in 97.  I was young and naive. Not that it would have made the slightest bit of difference if I had voted for the snp candidate, Labour were always winning the seat. The most depressing realisation of my political life was around 2002.  It came to mind that John Major is easily the best prime minister I've been around to see.  It still stands to this day. 

[Jupiter]

The big problem with dumping Starmer is that he will almost certainly be replaced by somebody worse. If it is Milipede or the ginger growler, the whole country is completely screwed

[Kowalski]

2 hours ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

Can't amend the above post, in reply to Kowalski, but the fall of Farage will be a great day.

It will come, it may well be with them in office, but his fall will be from a great height and when he does fall, others will fall with him.

Bring it on.

One can only hope this happens before he has a chance of becoming PM. 

[blinlemon]

54 minutes ago, tlg1903 said:

It came to mind that John Major is easily the best prime minister I've been around to see.  It still stands to this day. 

I can remember them all as far back as Alec Douglas-Home who had to renounce his peerage to take on a moribund Tory party around 1963. 

By the two 74 elections I was involved, but neither Wilson, nor Callaghan was radical enough. From today’s perspective, they were almost Kerensky and Kosygin compared today’s self-serving cabal of wishy-washy dinna-scare-the-cuddies “progressives”.  
 

I despair after the graft put in during the 77-79 referendum campaign, and the input of trades unions to the Kenyon Wright Constitutional Convention, that Holyrood’s become a safety-first talking shop full of party placemen/women/others with any hint of radicalism strangled at birth by the system, opinion polls, and sneaky, snide SPADs. I’ll be spoiling my ballot in May as there is fuck all worthy of my vote. Anent Westminster, it’s as remote politically as Peru. As Bambi said to Scumbag College, “the rich kids always win”.

I trust I can rely on your vote? Dinna bother. 
 

Edited 6 hours ago by blinlemon
the FFS

[Mason89]

Tommy Sheridan having a 4 ball with Billy Davies caused a lot of damage to the nation. I mean, I’d probably lie about it too but it’s a bit much expecting your friends to do time over it 

[Mason89]

28 minutes ago, Jupiter said:

or the ginger growler

I’m convinced we’ll see you in the news at some point in the future 

[blinlemon]

11 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

Tommy Sheridan having a 4 ball with Billy Davies caused a lot of damage to the nation. I mean, I’d probably lie about it too but it’s a bit much expecting your friends to do time over it 

Katrine Troll, a strong ally in the Stop The War campaign, thrown under the bus by the man who called loyal supporters ‘scabs’ because they refused to validate his lies. Now he’s topping Alba’s constituency vote list. “Beware charisma” we were correctly warned by a cynical but sensible college boss.

[TheDonbytheDee]

5 hours ago, tlg1903 said:

My biggest political regret is voting Labour in 97.  I was young and naive. Not that it would have made the slightest bit of difference if I had voted for the snp candidate, Labour were always winning the seat. The most depressing realisation of my political life was around 2002.  It came to mind that John Major is easily the best prime minister I've been around to see.  It still stands to this day. 

Dinna regret Labour in '97 min.

It was a glorious day, knowing they cunts were finally going.

Blair had many, many faults, but it wasn't all bad under them, far from it and compared to what we got from 2010 onwards, it was as close to Socialism as we will see anytime soon.

I get your point about Major and he is possibly more left of centre than what we now have, but still a Tory and made plenty shit decisions too. Privatisation of the Railways and I think water too, on his watch. Plus the other shitstorms under his watch.

NHS Trusts were another.

My first vote was in '92 and having another five years of Tory rule foisted upon us, was soul destroying and which saw Labour lurch to the right and ended up giving us Blair and the midden that now goes under the banner of Labour.

It would have been best for the country if the Mother of Thatcher had a headache the night she was conceived. 

Of course, it could be argued that she was spawned direct from Satan himself and I'd not try and counter it.

 

[TheDonbytheDee]

4 hours ago, blinlemon said:

Katrine Troll, a strong ally in the Stop The War campaign, thrown under the bus by the man who called loyal supporters ‘scabs’ because they refused to validate his lies. Now he’s topping Alba’s constituency vote list. “Beware charisma” we were correctly warned by a cynical but sensible college boss.

I did hear Sheridan was back in the political ring, but didn't know for which party. I should have guessed.

I was a big supporter of him once upon a time and was a proud supporter of the SSP, but you can't trust a person who changes their football allegiances and becomes a hun in the process.

That, for me, is beyond the pale.