Crazy American Politics

[Bukta Bertie]

1 hour ago, Jupiter said:

I can't believe you guys are supporting the ayatollahs. Most Iranians will be happy to get rid of them.

I'd cheer my head of if America and Israel was wiped off the face of the earth.

Hate bullies.

[TheDonbytheDee]

1 hour ago, Jupiter said:

I can't believe you guys are supporting the ayatollahs. Most Iranians will be happy to get rid of them.

American enforced regime change never works out well.

It's got nothing to do with bettering the lives of the Iranian people.

[tom_widdows]

When yer 'controlled' by fossil fuel companies and have pretty much exhausted yer own resources its time to pick on countries who have some which as far enough away  that any retaliation doesnt land on yer own citizens doorstep.

Despite the bluff and bluster they would/ will only send their war machine into Canada or Mexico as a complete last resort ie Mad Max has become a reality. 

America is continuing what the Brits, french, belgians, dutch, italians, germans were up to 120 years ago except now its in surround sound, 3D, Imax and they are leaving the occupation of the invaded territory to their smaller henchmen rather than flooding it with their own citizens on the proviso the locals cant handle things.

A country that prided itself on being great and yet despite spying on the world they still accept getting 20mpg and minimal power from massive engines as 'good'.

Could be a rumour but seem to recall reading GM/ ford etc tried to get VW, Toyota, Honda etc either kicked out or at least hit with a 'foreigner' tax on the basis they were killing the yankee models with their efficiancy, reliability etc. Perhaps the lawyers should have been looking at the fossil fuel companies who love how much 'gas' everyone burns.

I await to see who they invade to steal water from. Harder to ship that stuff thousands of miles in large container ships without it going off

[RicoS321]

9 hours ago, tom_widdows said:

When yer 'controlled' by fossil fuel companies and have pretty much exhausted yer own resources its time to pick on countries who have some which as far enough away  that any retaliation doesnt land on yer own citizens doorstep.

Despite the bluff and bluster they would/ will only send their war machine into Canada or Mexico as a complete last resort ie Mad Max has become a reality. 

America is continuing what the Brits, french, belgians, dutch, italians, germans were up to 120 years ago except now its in surround sound, 3D, Imax and they are leaving the occupation of the invaded territory to their smaller henchmen rather than flooding it with their own citizens on the proviso the locals cant handle things.

A country that prided itself on being great and yet despite spying on the world they still accept getting 20mpg and minimal power from massive engines as 'good'.

Could be a rumour but seem to recall reading GM/ ford etc tried to get VW, Toyota, Honda etc either kicked out or at least hit with a 'foreigner' tax on the basis they were killing the yankee models with their efficiancy, reliability etc. Perhaps the lawyers should have been looking at the fossil fuel companies who love how much 'gas' everyone burns.

I await to see who they invade to steal water from. Harder to ship that stuff thousands of miles in large container ships without it going off

They've clearly not been listening to the oil lads' orders. Didn't these cunts learn anything from Iraq? You dinna kill the bad guy straight away. You need to milk it for a few months or years. Then take the oil when the populace is fed up. 

[Bukta Bertie]

21 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

They've clearly not been listening to the oil lads' orders. Didn't these cunts learn anything from Iraq? You dinna kill the bad guy straight away. You need to milk it for a few months or years. Then take the oil when the populace is fed up. 

Think their gambling on the locals already being scunnered enough by the alleged suspicious deaths of protesters in recent times to rise up and take over. 

Naive madness. Meddling in the middle east doesn't work. 

[Bukta Bertie]

Stone me the Jews are managing to make themselves the victims yet again. 

Also having a chuckle at Trump and Netanyahu (both literally war criminals) ) labelling the Ayatollah as "evil". He was of course but they're both every bit as maniacal.

** Angela Rippon is practically reaching orgasm as she fingers herself thinking about the Zionist attacks. Nice long slender legs as she revealed on The Morecambe and Wise Show but politically and morally she's clearly a thoroughly horrible woman. 

Edited Sunday at 12:20 by Bukta Bertie

[Mason89]

I was watching this horror unfold i was wondering to myself, ‘What would Angela Rippon make of it all?’ 
 

Thanks 

[Bukta Bertie]

5 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

I was watching this horror unfold i was wondering to myself, ‘What would Angela Rippon make of it all?’ 
 

Thanks 

My thoughts exactly. 

[tom_widdows]

Interesting protest/ gathering at the Donald Dewar statue on Buchanan street, Glasgow today.

Mixture of Palestine, Pre 1980 Iran, Israel, USA, and Scotland flags.

Didnt seem to be kicking off but suspect they would have been moved on by the cops around 1330 given the proximity to the subway station

[Bukta Bertie]

2 hours ago, tom_widdows said:

Interesting protest/ gathering at the Donald Dewar statue on Buchanan street, Glasgow today.

Mixture of Palestine, Pre 1980 Iran, Israel, USA, and Scotland flags.

Didnt seem to be kicking off but suspect they would have been moved on by the cops around 1330 given the proximity to the subway station

Sounds like rangers and celtic fans.

[Bukta Bertie]

All those tax dodging pricks in the middle east. We should be charging them for any evacuation that takes place. 

[Mason89]

I hope that if Isobel Oakshot decides to flee, she’ll seek refuge in the nearest country 

I don’t make the rules Izzy 

[Bukta Bertie]

4 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

I hope that if Isobel Oakshot decides to flee, she’ll seek refuge in the nearest country 

I don’t make the rules Izzy 

I hope a drone finds her penthouse apartment and hopefully Tice is visiting at the time. 

[Bukta Bertie]

Spain telling the yanks to eff off is music to the ear. Everyone in Europe should be doing the same. 

Was only a few months ago Trump was hinting at taking Greenland by any means necessary. Don't mess with Europe you narcissistic mentalist. 

[Bukta Bertie]

Question for Keir Starmer. Is there really a difference between a defensive attack and an offensive attack. Aren't they both attacks?

.... and an extra question for Keir if I may. Could either of these attacks result in a goal being scored? A Mr Peter Leven from Aberdeen asked the last one. 

[RicoS321]

What's the latest vibe in the US @OrlandoDon? I'm assuming they're in full computer game mode in the media? Treating it like a sports event and giving you the run down on all the different types of planes and bombs being used? Any word on what the actual plan is?

It's a strange one, I have to say. I'm struggling to find any angle at all that makes sense of the attack. I don't mean from Trump, who's clearly an imbecile, but those that control him. What are their motives? Venezuela was a very good strategic move from a US perspective, and almost seamless in its execution. Iran just seems like a massive error, to an unbelievable degree (in other words, I'm clearly missing something). 

Iraq was held up as a catastrophe and an error, but it wasn't. In terms of power in the region, it made complete sense. In terms of sustaining high oil prices, it made sense. In terms of transfer of government funds (the US taxpayer) to the wealthy in military, clean-up and oil contracts (in Iraq) it made sense. It was a win for so few people at the expense of American soldiers. 

Iran is totally different. The only similarity I can see is that oil prices will remain high. The US have gone full in on regime change, whilst in negotiations, so the Iranians aren't going to come back to the table. That means the strait of Hormuz being shut in for months if not years. The US can't defend that across the entire Iranian coast. They also can't indefinitely defend the Saudis oil refineries from drones etc (probably only for a couple of weeks). They can't defend Israel from the multiple attacks they'll sustain either, and they're infrastructure is exceptionally volatile due to location and the fact that they're a highly developed westernised country. From the perspective of war being a racket, it makes little sense either. This is an aerial bombardment and the defence is also aerial (missiles against drones). The US doesn't have the capacity to replace its (the US and Israel) defence systems as quickly as they run dry. They needed a much more drawn out affair in order to keep the money flowing. Power wise, it just leaves a mess, but with Israel and Saudi significantly weaker. 

I don't get it. Again, not Trump, but those behind him. 

[Mason89]

11 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

What's the latest vibe in the US @OrlandoDon? I'm assuming they're in full computer game mode in the media? Treating it like a sports event and giving you the run down on all the different types of planes and bombs being used? Any word on what the actual plan is?

It's a strange one, I have to say. I'm struggling to find any angle at all that makes sense of the attack. I don't mean from Trump, who's clearly an imbecile, but those that control him. What are their motives? Venezuela was a very good strategic move from a US perspective, and almost seamless in its execution. Iran just seems like a massive error, to an unbelievable degree (in other words, I'm clearly missing something). 

Iraq was held up as a catastrophe and an error, but it wasn't. In terms of power in the region, it made complete sense. In terms of sustaining high oil prices, it made sense. In terms of transfer of government funds (the US taxpayer) to the wealthy in military, clean-up and oil contracts (in Iraq) it made sense. It was a win for so few people at the expense of American soldiers. 

Iran is totally different. The only similarity I can see is that oil prices will remain high. The US have gone full in on regime change, whilst in negotiations, so the Iranians aren't going to come back to the table. That means the strait of Hormuz being shut in for months if not years. The US can't defend that across the entire Iranian coast. They also can't indefinitely defend the Saudis oil refineries from drones etc (probably only for a couple of weeks). They can't defend Israel from the multiple attacks they'll sustain either, and they're infrastructure is exceptionally volatile due to location and the fact that they're a highly developed westernised country. From the perspective of war being a racket, it makes little sense either. This is an aerial bombardment and the defence is also aerial (missiles against drones). The US doesn't have the capacity to replace its (the US and Israel) defence systems as quickly as they run dry. They needed a much more drawn out affair in order to keep the money flowing. Power wise, it just leaves a mess, but with Israel and Saudi significantly weaker. 

I don't get it. Again, not Trump, but those behind him. 

The truth is, you’ve thought about this more than the Pentagon 

[RicoS321]

7 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

The truth is, you’ve thought about this more than the Pentagon 

It's not the pentagon though, is it? Dick Cheney wasn't the pentagon, neither the rest of the vulture capitalists. The guys who actually make money from these things, and buy guys like Trump and the absolute weirdo Hegseth. What's their angle?

[Mason89]

I’m not sure they have one to be honest. I think they’re in full on survival mode, just trying to ride it out. Russia & Isreal have the leverage against the US, both the politicians and their backers. It’ll end when they say it does and neither Putin or Netanyahu have any real motivation to stop. This is their window 

Trump will just play the appeals game till he dies but the downfall of all his fluffers is going to be great 

[Bukta Bertie]

Jews making the most of it. Licking their lips at the chance to give Lebanon the Gaza treatment. 

The Palestinians who had been so incredibly welcoming towards the Jews fleeing Europe at the end of WW2. More fool them. 

There's clearly a good reason why the Jews have been a persecuted people throughout the ages. I just wonder if they ever stop to ponder of perhaps it's themselves that are the problem and not everyone else. 

[Bukta Bertie]

Sitting here watching the GB News. I know I know. It's a case of know thine enemy.

They're so hawkish it's just being mental. Where do they find these nutters.