SCOTTISH football last night stood on the brink of revolution amid fears more than one SPL club is going to the wall.

 

Record Sport understands a move towards the restructuring of the SPL will start as soon as this season's championship and relegation issues have been decided.

 

Concerned chairmen have been holding emergency talks in secret for weeks. Matters are now coming to a head in advance of financial figures being released which will show the catastrophe that's on the way unless the Top Twelve is expanded into an 18-team league.

 

SPL chairmen met at Hampden yesterday as calls mounted for a change of direction and even the SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster has now publicly admitted the split isn't the answer to falling crowds and declining standards.

 

One concerned club spokesman said: "There are balance-sheet figures about to come out which are appalling.

 

"Clubs will go to the wall. unless there's change across the board, and soon.

 

"We can't go on paying salaries that the clubs just can't afford. Income must become relative to clubs' expenditure.

 

"Chairmen have been talking to each other in the background but it would be inappropriate to speak out before the major issues have been settled.

 

"Scottish football needs restructuring because the game is the big picture.

 

"If you sort out the product then the financial picture gets better in time.

 

"It might be sore to begin with, and income might drop by as much as 30 per cent, but if we don't take steps to find our true level then there will be serious consequences."

 

Rangers manager Walter Smith has already stated his preference for an 18-team Premier League, reducing the number of fixtures to 34.

 

That would take away the complaint that the same teams are meeting each other too many times during the season.

 

Support for that change to the current system was growing last night .

 

Formal moves to alter the structure of the SPL and redraw the remainder of the clubs in the Scottish Football League are now only a matter of weeks away.

 

Taken from the Daily Retard so may be utter bollocks, but I certainly hope not.

Fair enough but you could say that about a 10 team league as well

 

The same?

 

Not at present, short term it is probably for the best.

This is a good read although a few months old

http://soccerlens.com/the-top-15-leagues-in-europe/39185/

 

Did not know Germany had so much fans -10 teams average over 40,000 fans

This is a good read although a few months old

http://soccerlens.com/the-top-15-leagues-in-europe/39185/

 

Did not know Germany had so much fans -10 teams average over 40,000 fans

 

Pretty sure it's the best supported league in the world, I think, judged by percentage of stadia capacity, or something.

Yes to start with but if more people went to a more competitive league then tv would sure as hell be part of it.

You need to look at the long term when the old firm have gone

 

You have to ask why prices at firhill are £17 maybe its what they need to break even as there is less fans now due to them staying at home watching the English premier league every day

 

 

prices would come down because

1 the share of money would be evenly split and might allow teams to do the odd deal

2 more people would eventually go to games in a competitive league (might take a few years )

3 provincial clubs would not have to compete with the old firm and could cap wages better

4 no old firm (and lets face it they will fuck off first chance they get anyway so lets have it on our terms and not theirs)

 

we can see what will happen they will fuck off but try and leave reserve sides in the premier league so they can still claim the lions share of tv money from here as well

 

I know that with having gone to thousands of games myself that for a start without the old firm it would seem suicide (tv, no real big games, no atmosphere, rivarly etc etc but i think for the long term good of Scottish football it will be good.

All my sons support the dons but other kids on my street support rangers, celtic, man utd and chelsea etc (why is this it must be down to tv because they don't go to the games)

 

 

I have said what i think i respect some of you don't agree but i will never set foot in any 10 team league -this is not the answer

Also what plonker came up with the idea of showing games on a Monday night

 

Crikey.

 

We don't have a "to start with" period. the league will die if we lose revenue, that's all your plan does. Even for 1 or 2 years our game can not afford it. Simple as that man. It's  not going to happen.

Crikey.

 

We don't have a "to start with" period. the league will die if we lose revenue, that's all your plan does. Even for 1 or 2 years our game can not afford it. Simple as that man. It's  not going to happen.

 

The league wont die if we lose revenue, clubs will just have to live within their means ie by bringing down wages etc

People said this when Setanta pulled the plug and its not happened yet.

 

The league wont die if we lose revenue, clubs will just have to live within their means ie by bringing down wages etc

People said this when Setanta pulled the plug and its not happened yet.

 

You're talking seasons though. Our clubs can not absorb that hit. Simple as that. Why can't you see this?

You're talking seasons though. Our clubs can not absorb that hit. Simple as that. Why can't you see this?

 

I can see this,  but they might have no choice because if the old firm go in the short term money will drop.

Or are you saying the league will simply go bust

 

 

I can see this,  but they might have no choice because if the old firm go in the short term money will drop.

Or are you saying the league will simply go bust

 

Fucking hell. You're the one saying "may take a few years", why do you think we have that time? We don't. Any sort of time without tv or OF money and we're fucked. What would replace that money?

As said before people said that when Setanta went bust and is our league still here.

Other leagues all over the World survive in a lot less money than ours.

Why do you think ours will not survive

Sigh.....Did you not read a complete post once?

 

To cover initial (hopefully) drop in revenue til we actually have competitive leagues

 

Oh and I still AM a Maths teacher

 

I read the entire post yes. I responded to the part that might have a chance of coming to fruition. The rest I merely dismissed as the stuff of fairies and pixies.

I read the entire post yes. I responded to the part that might have a chance of coming to fruition. The rest I merely dismissed as the stuff of fairies and pixies.

 

My apologies. I did not realise you were the sole arbitrer of fact and reason. 

 

All I was doing was adding my tuppence to the debate.

 

None of any of the suggestions in this thread will ever come to fruition, because, as we well know, Scottsh football is run by cock sucking necrophiliacs!

 

In future I will PM you all my opinions to make sure they're ok and agree with your's.

 

In fact why don't you make all my posts for me?

, Scottsh football is run by cock sucking necrophiliacs!

 

You missed out the word HUN between sucking and necrophiliacs!

 

You missed out the word HUN between sucking and necrophiliacs!

As said before people said that when Setanta went bust and is our league still here.

Other leagues all over the World survive in a lot less money than ours.

Why do you think ours will not survive

 

It's not necessarily that I don't think it would survive per se, I don't think it can survive AND still produce the level of competitiveness or quality we would all like to see, which is surely the whole point of this?

My apologies. I did not realise you were the sole arbitrer of fact and reason. 

 

All I was doing was adding my tuppence to the debate.

 

None of any of the suggestions in this thread will ever come to fruition, because, as we well know, Scottsh football is run by cock sucking necrophiliacs!

 

In future I will PM you all my opinions to make sure they're ok and agree with your's.

 

In fact why don't you make all my posts for me?

 

What are you babbling about ? You posted an opinion that I disagree with so I posted a response, stating my own opinion. At no point have I claimed to have a monopoly on truth or fact. If you aren't happy with these fundamental principles of a message board and aren't capable of having someone disagree with you without breaking down into some sort of teenage fit then I suggest you go take up knitting or something.

It's not necessarily that I don't think it would survive per se, I don't think it can survive AND still produce the level of competitiveness or quality we would all like to see, which is surely the whole point of this?

 

fair enough but changing it to a 10 team league will not take in any more money in my opinion.

 

read the papers and other club sites general opinion is it wont work and they don't want it.

I thought business was all about giving your customers what they want not forcing something they don't want on them.

 

After reading the absurd idea of 4 teams in a play off for the league after playing all season i dont trust any of the clubs coming up with any sort of sound idea

 

fair enough but changing it to a 10 team league will not take in any more money in my opinion.

 

read the papers and other club sites general opinion is it wont work and they don't want it.

I thought business was all about giving your customers what they want not forcing something they don't want on them.

 

After reading the absurd idea of 4 teams in a play off for the league after playing all season i dont trust any of the clubs coming up with any sort of sound idea

 

For the fuckteenth time it is not about more money, it's about not losing more than we have to.

For the fuckteenth time it is not about more money, it's about not losing more than we have to.

 

But going to a 10 team league will lose money as the fans don't like it.

What cant you understand about that.

But going to a 10 team league will lose money as the fans don't like it.

What cant you understand about that.

 

NOT AS MUCH AS THE OTHER OPTIONS.

But going to a 10 team league will lose money as the fans don't like it.

What cant you understand about that.

I think you should view it more as a sticking plaster rather than a long term cure for the ills of the SPL and scottish fitba in general. Yes in the long run the fans may become bored and even more will leave to go shopping etc. on a Saturday with their misses but they need to be seen to do something to at least try and raise the standard. A 10 team league means that we get to play the bigot brothers more which brings more fans through the gate than any other game. This should increase revenue for the clubs in the short term.

 

Long term I also think, as most others on here seem to aswell, that something else will need to be done.

I think you should view it more as a sticking plaster rather than a long term cure for the ills of the SPL and scottish fitba in general. Yes in the long run the fans may become bored and even more will leave to go shopping etc. on a Saturday with their misses but they need to be seen to do something to at least try and raise the standard. A 10 team league means that we get to play the bigot brothers more which brings more fans through the gate than any other game. This should increase revenue for the clubs in the short term.

 

Long term I also think, as most others on here seem to aswell, that something else will need to be done.

 

Is the correct, but fairly often repeated answer.

i'm of the opinion that as Scottish football is fucked anyway, knock it down and build it again, don't paper over the cracks as you'll just have the same problems.

We moved away from a 10 team league for a reason did we not? Also playing the old firm 4 times a season only benefits the other 8 teams in the league. The same amount of money will be in the league it's just it'll only be divided between 10 teams rather than say 16 teams. 

We moved away from a 10 team league for a reason did we not? Also playing the old firm 4 times a season only benefits the other 8 teams in the league. The same amount of money will be in the league it's just it'll only be divided between 10 teams rather than say 16 teams.

 

The point being that the 10 would not be the ends but the means to it. I'm no fan of a 10 or 12, either is just as pish as a 16 team league if all the teams are pish but there's little point further impoverishing teams by further splitting the money pot up, certainly not in the short term when club's incomes are declining.

 

We also moved away from larger leagues than 10 or 12,  I'm assuming there were reasons behind that too.

The point being that the 10 would not be the ends but the means to it. I'm no fan of a 10 or 12, either is just as pish as a 16 team league if all the teams are pish but there's little point further impoverishing teams by further splitting the money pot up, certainly not in the short term when club's incomes are declining.

 

We also moved away from larger leagues than 10 or 12,  I'm assuming there were reasons behind that too.

To me it seems the ones at the top want to keep all the money and then let the rest fight for scraps. Personally I would rather see a bigger league and the wealth spread across more teams. Each team might get slightly less money but the competition will be better which might just increase gates.