glasgow sheep Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I thought despite the scoreline they still played fairly poorly, the passing was terrible and for some reason we didn't close down their midfield at all. Play like that against a team with any real ability and we'll be in trouble. On a side note though, how fucking pleased was Considine when scored? He looked like he was going to vault the barrier and run into the stand to celebrate with everyone.Ā SKMG. I'll ignore the mince in your other post, but I think you are pretty harsh here. Yesterday was a massive improvement on what I have seen over the last year (only 5th SPL win in 2009!). Ā Passing wasn't perfect but it was pretty good and I thought we looked quite comfortable on the ball. Ā Also good to see players actually having a pop at goal more often. I think we had more shots on goal in the first 10mins than I've seen us have in entire matches.Ā Of course a better side would have posed us more problems but this is a side who we struggled, and failed, against last year and to win any game in the SPL so comfortably is both a novelty and impressive.Ā Heard Fyvie got MotM on the BBC and he certainly was impressive. Scary to think the lad is only 16yrs old as he looked very assured and certainly didn't shy away from getting stuck in when need be. Will be interesting to see how and when MM uses him when we have a fully fit squad but I'd suggest if he can put on a display like that most weeks then McDonald may be a bit nervous about his place.Ā Also thought Crawford looked very comfortable, although to be fair he wasn't faced with too much. It certainly made a dfference having a RB at RB.Ā MotM for me however had to be Mulgrew. Stunning goal and 2 assists. Even his defending was fairly competent for most the match.Ā Good to finally get that first win of the season and hopefully the squad takes some confidence from this into the next few games which are all very winnable. And even better that the youth system appears to be finally bearing fruit. Ā Correct me if I'm wrong but Willie brought in Lenny Taylor 5yrs ago and the pair of them have completely rejigged our youth set up. Ā These things obviously take time but hopefully this is just a sign of things to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Padreā¢ Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 I was of course purely fishing about Jimmy. I'm pleased for both lads that they did so well and hopefully the team can sharpen up a bit more for the Motherwell game and get another 3 points in the bag. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownyBrown Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Well, can you honestly say you could have seen Calderwood doing what McGhee done yesterday?Ā I can honestly say Fyvie or Crawford would not have been on the pitch at any point.Ā I loved the game yesterday, first time in a year I can honestly say I enjoyed a game. Ā Yeah: Considine, Diamond, Maguire, Paton, & Pawlett never got a chance under Calderwood.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minijc Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Yeah: Considine, Diamond, Maguire, Paton, & Pawlett never got a chance under Calderwood.Ā Considine and Diamond already in the team playing before JC came, i'll give you P&P though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownyBrown Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Maguire too, and he also gave youth a chance with non-homegrown talent such as Aluko and Walker...in particularly high profile matches too.Ā I'm well aware that Diamond and Considine had their debuts before JC, but he continued to support them to the point that they became regular 1st XI players.Ā Of all the criticisms that had been levelled at JC: tactical ineptitude, poor motivation, crap training sessions, substitution blunders etc. I don't think lack of support for our younger players was one of them.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Padreā¢ Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Considine and Diamond already in the team playing before JC came, i'll give you P&P though. Ā And Maguire. And while Aluko may not be part of our youth set up, he was still still only a teenager. So that's not bad, almost half a team.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Padreā¢ Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 I'll ignore the mince in your other post, but I think you are pretty harsh here. Yesterday was a massive improvement on what I have seen over the last year (only 5th SPL win in 2009!). Ā Passing wasn't perfect but it was pretty good and I thought we looked quite comfortable on the ball. Ā Also good to see players actually having a pop at goal more often. I think we had more shots on goal in the first 10mins than I've seen us have in entire matches.Ā Of course a better side would have posed us more problems but this is a side who we struggled, and failed, against last year and to win any game in the SPL so comfortably is both a novelty and impressive.Ā Heard Fyvie got MotM on the BBC and he certainly was impressive. Scary to think the lad is only 16yrs old as he looked very assured and certainly didn't shy away from getting stuck in when need be. Will be interesting to see how and when MM uses him when we have a fully fit squad but I'd suggest if he can put on a display like that most weeks then McDonald may be a bit nervous about his place.Ā Also thought Crawford looked very comfortable, although to be fair he wasn't faced with too much. It certainly made a dfference having a RB at RB.Ā MotM for me however had to be Mulgrew. Stunning goal and 2 assists. Even his defending was fairly competent for most the match.Ā Good to finally get that first win of the season and hopefully the squad takes some confidence from this into the next few games which are all very winnable. And even better that the youth system appears to be finally bearing fruit. Ā Correct me if I'm wrong but Willie brought in Lenny Taylor 5yrs ago and the pair of them have completely rejigged our youth set up. Ā These things obviously take time but hopefully this is just a sign of things to come. Ā The goals, and the quality of the goals papered over the cracks quite heavily. How may times did we give the ball away in a completely needless manner? We also really struggled to clear our lines at times, the goalmouth stramash in the second half being a very good example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_min Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Calderwood played quite a few youngsters and then shipped them out because he didn't think they were good enough.Ā Johnnie Stewart for example and rightly so because he was a bit shit. Ā Big John Stewart wasn't so much 'shipped' out, more sold onfor a profit on the same day we managed to sign Lee Miller on a free transfer...Ā JMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minijc Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Big John Stewart wasn't so much 'shipped' out, more sold onfor a profit on the same day we managed to sign Lee Miller on a free transfer...Ā JMG Aye that profit that went in to John Stewarts back pooch?Ā The fee recieved went to Stewart as compo because he was taking a massive pay cut to go to Falkirk.Ā JRIG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azteca1903 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Aye that profit that went in to John Stewarts back pooch?Ā The fee recieved went to Stewart as compo because he was taking a massive pay cut to go to Falkirk.Ā JRIG Ā Getting him off the payroll for nothing so that wages are freed up for Miller? Yeah, that's poor business right enough.Ā Is this not getting a wee bit tedious; folk either attacking Calderwood's actions consistently to vindicate their opposition of his tenure and his ultimate dismissal or (although less common) defending him to the hilt because they didn't fancy McGhee? Let's face it, he did some things right and some things wrong...can we not just move on though eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Padreā¢ Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Getting him off the payroll for nothing so that wages are freed up for Miller? Yeah, that's poor business right enough.Ā Is this not getting a wee bit tedious; folk either attacking Calderwood's actions consistently to vindicate their opposition of his tenure and his ultimate dismissal or (although less common) defending him to the hilt because they didn't fancy McGhee? Let's face it, he did some things right and some things wrong...can we not just move on though eh? Ā No, the forum would die if weren't arguing about Jimmy.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_min Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 No, the forum would die if weren't arguing about Jimmy.Ā Ā It would live, the DT music game would save itĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minijc Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Bit of a bite here, but everyone knows my grammar is rather bad, but I don't give a fuck as it's a football forum, nothing more, nothing less, ginger runner are certainly not the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajja Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Is that the second game that Considine has played alongside Ifil and looked very confident and assured ? Encouraging sign, maybe ZD should be looking over his shoulder if he has a bad spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Highlights up on the BBCĀ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8217066.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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