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Don of a new era.........

Mr Mcghee the seat is all yours.

 

Whilst im not going to get into the "Who was best manager since fergie" debate i do have the following to say.

 

Today is a happy day for stoney, some of you think i didnt have much time for Calderwood, truth is in the past 2 and a bit years you would be correct, but today is a little bit of a sad day too.

 

In Jimmys first year with us he inherited some great young players, backed up with signing experianced players (seve, barry nic and lovell) to bring them on, the perfect mix. Its fair to say after the season before i was fairly excited by the season that was to follow and i wasnt dissapointed. First season in the job is always getting the team to the way you like it and building up a good team  we even had an outside chance of Europe- Passed with flying colours couldnt be happier with him.

 

2nd Season - wasnt the greatest but we were still playing decent football, never left a game early we were unlucky that hearts and hibs were flying that season and had money to spend. Plus we had an excellent team, a natural leader (in anderson) an international standard midfield (seve at the time was playing his best stuff, nicolson after taking a year to settle in was playing well, and we all knew what jamie smith could do on his day)

 

3rd Season - Started off the season like a house on fire, we were flying in the league playing some of the best football i had seen us play, couldnt be happier with calderwood he was doing a fantastic job - we looked a nap to finish 2nd that season, i remember it quite well that we had rangers at pittodrie to go 6 points clear of them, it was like something changed over night and we were scared to get beat in that game, for some reason we changed the whole way we played in that season to accomodate rangers, i have no idea why to this day but we ended up getting beat of a very shite rangers team and i started to think that calderwood didnt have a clue what he was doing.

 

A few weeks later we were playing worse and worse and we got humped badly from hibs (first game i have ever left early at the time) kept hearing calderwood talk more and more about other teams instead of having faith in his own players, we had a great team at that time and i felt that if we had a better manager we could have finished 2nd that season.

 

4th Season was the beggining of the end if you take the euro trips out of that season it was awful we took a massive step backwards in my opinion i cant remember wanting to stay till the end of many games, the last straw for me was the QOTS game think he should have walked after that game, quite dissapointed its taken him so long to jack it in, would have still had some respect for him if he walked last season, altho there isnt a massive differance in the home attendances the away support is well down on what it was and also the supporters are a lot less vocal.

 

Whilst i give Calderwood the credit he deserves for making us hard to beat and very solid i feel in his past two years that we became a team scared to get beat and hence never really had a great run of consistant wins. Too many stupid draws against lesser teams, if he left us at the start of the 07/08 season i honestly think we would have had some success in the cups by now, we put hearts and united in their place and they have crept back on us - i think this season was a wasted season.

 

Im not sure about mcghee he's done a good job with motherwell on a third of our budget and also has worked well with the young players they have, which is what we are going to have to relay on, i dont think the next manager is going to get the backing that calderwood has, and i think a reverse effect of this season on any new manager, i think the JIG will make it very difficult for us to have the chance to rebuild. Whoever comes in he's going to need the same two years that calderwood had to get the show on the road.

 

I dont believe our fans have the patience for this.

 

Good luck Mark - You are going to need.

 

COYR

 

 

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Again im just the copy and paste guy  :thumbsup:

Mr Mcghee the seat is all yours.

 

Good luck Mark - You are going to need.

 

Where did you copy and paste that from?

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Again im not saying the man for the job - i just think he will get the job  :thumbsup:

Again im not saying the man for the job - i just think he will get the job  :thumbsup:

 

Pretty much my feelings on the matter.  :thumbsup:

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Out of interest, (apart from myself obviously) who would your lead applicant be?

Out of interest, (apart from myself obviously) who would your lead applicant be?

 

As I said on another thread, I have no idea. I can completely understand the board wanting change but they better be fucking certain about making the next choice another good one.

 

One of the reasons why I don't get the clamour for JC's head. I can't think of a genuinely obvious and outstanding candidate that would want the job and do a better job of it than JC.

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My opinion was some change had to be better then no change.

 

If said person whoever it is gets the same financial backing as calderwood i can see us doing well - we have some exciting young players at the club, i think we can move forward!

Mark McGhee is a carbon copy of Jimmy Calderwood. There would be no improvement under McGhee so there is no point in him becoming manager or sacking caderwood and giving him a large payoff and I wanted Calderwood out. I would thank him for the stability he has brought to the club but do feel that it was time for a change.

I would prefer a new face maybe someone like Stevie Nicol who has been in America for a good few years and may bring a fresh, new and exciting outlook with different ideas for training etc. If Jim Jeffries gets the job I'm going to smash my own face in in despair.

My opinion was some change had to be better then no change.

 

If said person whoever it is gets the same financial backing as calderwood i can see us doing well - we have some exciting young players at the club, i think we can move forward!

 

You have no evidence for that at all stoney. No change probably meant consistent league position and qualification for Europe and writing off the cups.

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I will have in 12 months time  :thumbsup:

I will have in 12 months time  :thumbsup:

 

But you have no way of saying that JC couldn't have done as good/better a job than his replacement has done?

I will have in 12 months time  :thumbsup:

 

No you won't.

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But you have no way of saying that JC couldn't have done as good/better a job than his replacement has done?

 

I'll try to remember that when im waving my dons scarf at the passing open top bus after we win the cup (either) next season  :thumbsup:

well thought out, intelligent, articulate response tenement.

 

much appreciate the witty debate

Out of interest, (apart from myself obviously) who would your lead applicant be?

 

 

Jimmy Calderwood for me.

 

Out of interest, (apart from myself obviously) who would your lead applicant be?

 

Sol Bamba

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Calderwood had his chance and blew it.............. Next  :wave:

i'm still wanting Sean O'Driscoll

i'm still wanting Sean O'Driscoll

 

Absolutely no chance.

 

 

Unless he's pissed off at not being the Lions captain I just can't see it.

yeah that's the Sean O'Driscoll i meant.

 

I also think we should give curly watts a go. he was great at bettabuys. unlike patterson

I think Brian O'Driscoll would be more likely to be pissed off at not being the Lions captain.

 

Should I whoosh myself?

Can you justify yourself for the "no way O'Driscoll"?

 

We want cup success - he's won two trophies with a shite team

Di Matteo has been touted - yet O'Driscoll has actually got his team promoted and managed to get mid table respectability after an awful start.  Actually managed to sort his team out mid way through a season unlike a lot of managers who find themselves out of depth in a higher league

Can you justify yourself for the "no way O'Driscoll"?

 

We want cup success - he's won two trophies with a shite team

Di Matteo has been touted - yet O'Driscoll has actually got his team promoted and managed to get mid table respectability after an awful start.  Actually managed to sort his team out mid way through a season unlike a lot of managers who find themselves out of depth in a higher league

 

Both of them are terrible choices, they know nothing about Aberdeen or Scottish football.

 

BB, yes.

you really think that any championship manager doesn't know anything about scottish football these days? when a good percentage of the top players in that league come from our division on low/no fees? Don't be so blinkered - there isn't a manager around who doesn't have a team in place so he knows what is going on in virtually every division. Surely it is more important for him to know a good standard of player when he sees one and how to get him into his club, and more importantly get the best out of a squad that he has inherited.

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