For those that believe third is still doable, then only a win will do. Even a draw likely won't be enough unless St Mirren beat Hibs, and I'm not even sure we want that because if we do lose to Celtic all off a sudden fourth place is shaky.

I would just like a morale boosting performance ahead of the big one next Saturday. And no injuries to key players. 

Hopefully it doesn't sell out so that it annoys all the right people.

 

2-1 HT. But can’t say it’s undeserved, for 35 mins we were total piss. We give away such shit goals, a big factor in this team. Goal difference -9 now 😳

Mitov needs to get a stronger hand to that. We’re soft as fuck in defence.

I’ll also add, two more goals from crosses. How can we be so bad at that!!!??

2 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

I’ll also add, two more goals from crosses. How can we be so bad at that!!!??

It does make you wonder what we actually do with the defence in training sessions 🤔

Jesus Christ

1-3

 

We came flying out of the blocks and managed to concede in three minutes 

Torn apart down the right again. It's not like forest is a youngster. Acres of space

 

We really are shite. Another attack wide, shinnie burned, and goal from a cross/cut back. They could hammer us if they want. We start the half well but are so easily cut open.

Away to watch the Italian football now

C'mon Fergie

Amazing. Can't wait for the cup final

 

Another cross another goal. Switching off. Painful. It will be more than 4. 
from the other thread, have we made progress? Defensively and from crosses we are horrendous.

Knoester looking like the ghost of Rubezic, he’s been on his arse for 3 of their goals. Just not aggressive enough. 

There’s no fight in this team. Cup final could be horrific. 

If McKenzie plays well here does he keep hid place for the final? 

Given how shinnie had been exposed tonight.

If St Mirren win tonight, it remains mathematically possible we could finish the season 6th and miss out on Europe.  Didn't see that coming.

26 minutes ago, OxfordDon said:

If St Mirren win tonight, it remains mathematically possible we could finish the season 6th and miss out on Europe.  Didn't see that coming.

Thankfully St Mirren drew but can’t see us not losing to United after this. 4-1 probably slightly flattering on us tonight. 

Now 5-1

They must love playing us. Easiest games of the season for them. 

Positives: Milne done well in his cameo, shady mo looked in Celtics class. Can't blame mitov for any goals really.

Negatives: forgot palaversa was playing. Everything relies on a 40yd ball ( almost always from Clarkson )and three headers and flicks to get up the pitch. Keskinen is pointless, why hasn't he been dropped? Can't hold the ball, can't create. Just head down and fingers crossed. Our best defensive partnership in a while struggled. Skipper was destroyed out wide.

All in all is not a pretty picture and I'm really not sure Jimmy can fix it. He's basically got this week to save his job. If it ends in a loss then a spanking in the final he starts next season under serious, serious pressure.

Just saw the game was over, didn’t watch the game that closely as I was working. Not surprised dorrington saw red, booking in the second minute makes it tough for a defender against a team like Celtic.

as mentioned, shinnie has certainly lost a step or two. He got exposed a bunch by an aging Forrest. Definitely need a left back this summer, amongst other things.

going back to what panda asked (I think), have we improved? We lose a lot of goals, -12 now. That’s is awful. I took pride every year looking at the league and seeing us as one of the few teams with a positive goal difference. Redordead is the first one to question the manager, I still think he’s backed for multiple years but it’s certainly got us all thinking I’m sure.

that’s 9-1 against a shit rangers and a Celtic B team, although Celtic B is relative, they would prob finish second in the league. That is not progress. Our defense has gotten worse over the season. 
dont know if kneuster is to blame, he’s been a plus this season, saw him referenced, but an ongoing issue is stopping the cross. Even the shankland goal in the semi was a result of shit pressure and defending from Morris allowing a ton of time for a cross.

first 35 minutes we appeared to have no time or space and you see teams high press us. If it wasn’t for the crowd issue I see us going in 2 or 3 down at half, certainly not scoring. We cannot handle high pressure and belt it long as a result, giving the ball away. You’ve seen that a lot in recent games. Zero possession in midfield and zero passing.

No clue how we get a positive result in the cup final. Battered twice this week, why would the final be any different? They looked so good today, but that’s because we were so bad. Fucked the goal difference too a now united have the better goal difference. Can’t lose this weekend, although is there a better euro draw for 4th than 5th?

That was honking. Left early, and I never leave early. Clarkson about the only one trying. There were gaping holes down their right the entire game. It was a disorganised mess for the whole match. We should have been resting Shinnie after the weekend. We certainly shouldn't have been leaving him up against Forrest on his own, with acres to run into. McInnes used to do the same a decade ago with Considine. You need the fullback to be right in his face, but that requires Keskinen to be further back. Shinnie couldn't go out to Forrest, as either the fullback or midfielder would go into the gap, so he was left being run at all night. Seems the manger didn't spot it either. 

Palaversa can't play second halves anymore. Don't know what that's about. Knoester had his poorest game yet. Dorrington wasn't terrible but the first yellow was a little wild. Milne was good, but shouldn't be on the left. Mitov fine.

20 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

They must love playing us. Easiest games of the season for them. 

It used to be that way too, and I thought we’d got away from that. Crazy to think how we played in the 3-3 cup semi and the 2-2 game pre Xmas. Totally different team now. We lay down twice and crumbled this week, and have done that three times to Celtic this season, correct?

1 hour ago, OrlandoDon said:

Another honking game. Men vs boys. We haven’t completed three passes and getting pissed on. Could get hammered. 1 so far.

Smart man, couldn’t agree more!

50 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

They must love playing us. Easiest games of the season for them. 

Celtic have scored five goals or more against 10 different teams this season.

They're too good for Scottish football at the moment. Yes we can play much better than tonight, but they're spanking everyone.

We would probably have had more chance tonight had they played their strongest team. Instead they played a side desperate to impress, and for a "reserve" side I think nine of them would be starters for us.

 

45 minutes ago, redordead said:

I'm really not sure Jimmy can fix it. He's basically got this week to save his job. If it ends in a loss then a spanking in the final he starts next season under serious, serious pressure

If we beat United then win the cup, the job he has on his hands is still the same.

We started the season with arguably a worse squad than last season following the loss of Miovski and Barron. Whether you rated Barron or not, his departure still weakened our midfield, we haven't replaced him, and we certainly haven't found another Miovski yet. 

People say Thelin has thrown money at the squad, but he's had to because cheap signings were not going to improve us, but it doesn't necessarily mean all the problems would be fixed in one season.

He's spent most of that money on the defence. It was poor tonight and at Ibrox, but I think most can see that Tobers-Knoester are an improvement on Rubezic-Molloy. Nilsen's loss is hitting us harder than expected. The other two big money signings - Jensen and Keskinen - I think will eventually do well for us. 

But we need a left back, a Barron replacement, a McGrath replacement (hopefully Milanovic is it) probably two strikers if Nisbet doesn't stay and an attacking midfielder. Basically half a team.

Change the manager if you like. Jump in at the 11th hour and get McInnes, go get Stephen Robinson, fuck it offer Kjell Knutsen the universe. But they'll all need at least another two transfer windows.

35 minutes ago, redordead said:

Positives: Milne done well in his cameo, shady mo looked in Celtics class. Can't blame mitov for any goals really.

All in all is not a pretty picture and I'm really not sure Jimmy can fix it. He's basically got this week to save his job. If it ends in a loss then a spanking in the final he starts next season under serious, serious pressure.

Don't understand that - a week to save his job : so if we lose at DU and get spanked the following week he gets sacked he won't be here next season.