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Scottish Premiership - St Mirren v Aberdeen

Celtic v Aberdeen


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Frustrating as fuck on the disallowed goal, the way ruby is manhandled by the defender. The first foul is the pulling/holding, and the slightest of hand ball after. If var is meant to catch more, and make the game purer, give a penalty for the foul on ruby before the hand ball?? I can’t remember, they specifically have to state why var look before they look, correct? They are surely checking on a foul leading up to the goal, which I’d the hand ball, and the pull/holding is the first foul.

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Weirdly woke up 10 mins before the 90 was over had to follow with mates messages and live text. Was totally confused about the non winner and having seen the replay, I’m not sure why that’s disallowed (obviously I know). A shame, if it doesn’t hit duk, sokler scores his second.

but that second half performance was by and large brilliant. To hold our nerve, even to get into a position to even potentially win, superb. Sokler , that’s what we need from you mate. That was a brilliant finish, one befitting of the play in the lead up, stuff of beauty. Hopefully that’s the thing that gives him the confidence to start putting those away, as he’s had plenty of them and not taken them. Could have been Miovski scoring that. 
 

the team spirit is something to behold. Very jealous to have to watch from afar. 

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19 minutes ago, Elgindon said:

The weight and curve of the pass from McGrath ... from this angle.

 https://www.facebook.com/reel/1289920825502150

Aye, it's world class. They'd be wanking over it down South. It sits up perfectly for him to get the spin on it, and it's inch perfect. You can see it spinning to a virtual stop just as Sokler reaches it. Sokler is so good at those runs too. Part of the reason why Clarkson struggled so much in the first half was Nisbet's complete lack of movement in that regard. He offered nothing. 

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Having watched highlights the VAR call on our third was correct under the current rule but as others said the rule is just wrong and one that was created just to justify the existence of VAR. I just cannot see what benefit VAR brings. 
 

I actually thought Walsh did okay on Saturday. He got most of major calls right and although he did get his card out quickly for some of our players he let Neilsen away with a number of fouls before eventually booking him. 

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1 hour ago, Jute said:

I actually thought Walsh did okay on Saturday. He got most of major calls right and although he did get his card out quickly for some of our players he let Neilsen away with a number of fouls before eventually booking him

Yep, he was okay. I've seen a few folk saying that he booked our players for nothing and let theirs off for similar, but I didn't see it that way. Sometimes refs make mistakes, and I think the Clarkson booking was just that. He obviously thought it was more petulant than it was, it was a nothing challenge attempting to get the ball. I think he probably recognised his error, and that's why he was quite lenient with Nilsen. He could have gone the other way and started throwing out cards all over the shop, but he didn't. I don't buy into the idea that you should book another player just because you booked one previously, especially if the ref has an inclination that he might have been too quick to judge the prior incident. Duk's booking wasn't even a foul, but if you think he caught the player then a booking would probably the right call from the ref's angle. Otherwise, Walsh was okay. Stayed up with play, got the freekick on the edge of our box spot on, and was quick to call the foul on Mitov. The ten minutes should have been eight really. That's probably where the influence of the home crowd comes in, especially when we were shitefesting at that point.

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Yeah bar a few harsh yellows Walsh was fine, certainly didn't feel like he was getting influenced by the crowd and by and large let the game flow.  I would go as far as to say it was most competent display I've seen from a Scottish ref in a game between ourselves and one of the ugly sisters away in quite a while. 

Re the chalked off goal I can't help but feel if Celtic had scored that against us we would have been howling for a handball so whilst I agree the rule has become a nonsense it is what it is and the goal was correctly not given. 

 

It would have been amazing to win but what we did was as good as one in some ways.  It would be fair to say every Scottish football fan had a curious eye on the San Giro yesterday and coming back from 2 down there is never not impressive. It's not like a really good celtic team didn't show up yesterday either, they played really well in spells and their first goal was utterly ruthless. We got a point because we not only could go toe to toe with them we could do so from two goals down and if we can do that to them, there, then we can do it to anyone in the league. The best bit about that?  They all know it

 

When you think about it this is the first time since the early 90's that every single fan of the other clubs in Scotland would at the very least be wary about playing us.  I've already seen utd fans online saying they are dreading next Saturday and they have had a great start to the season, they would normally be hyped for a trip north in such circumstances.  What a game that is now as well, a win puts us in such a strong position to really turn the screw on der hun.  Der hun who are very fortunate to be going in to half time still drawing against Killie.  Even if they win today though if we beat utd we would still go 6 clear of the cunts should we do the business against them.  

I've no idea how long this can last but I'm defo going to enjoy it while it does.  However early in the season it may be I really think yesterday's performance and result could be one of the most pivotal moments of the season for us.  The confidence and belief in the squad will be through the roof after that and I can see us really going for the jugular in games a bit more as a result. 

 

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17 minutes ago, tlg1903 said:

Re the chalked off goal I can't help but feel if Celtic had scored that against us we would have been howling for a handball so whilst I agree the rule has become a nonsense it is what it is and the goal was correctly not given

I certainly wouldn't have been, but you could be right, and it's exactly the type of nonsense attitude that has resulted in VAR being introduced. Although now that it has been introduced, then it's correct to claim for it. I genuinely don't think anyone would have been claiming handball a few years ago until VAR changed the rules. The game is just completely different now. Every time the ball enters the box people are screaming for handball. It's tedious. The accidental handball rule was absolutely fine. Sportsmanship dictated, now replaced with black or white dictat, in order to make it more machine like. Just like offside. It's tragic.

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Ally "im really not bothered by Celtic. Honestly" McCoist calling for the handball rule to be reviewed as he saw it as completely unintentional. Whilst I would've loved Duk's goal to stand, changing the rules to allow for interpretation would create a generation of players who would "game it". 

On another note, anyone else notice the blatant cheating from the Tims? Specifically Johnson backing into Mitov twice, and Idah stepping into the newly created gap to tap the ball in? Ref quite rightly pulled them up for the first as Johnson bundled Mitov into the net. But Mitov was lucky not to give away a foul the second time simply by clearing the space immediately infront of him 

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1 hour ago, Reekie_Red said:

Ally "im really not bothered by Celtic. Honestly" McCoist calling for the handball rule to be reviewed as he saw it as completely unintentional. Whilst I would've loved Duk's goal to stand, changing the rules to allow for interpretation would create a generation of players who would "game it". 

Yet that was the rule for over 100 years without a real issue. McCoist is completely correct. I'm surprised anyone feels otherwise to be honest. There are two distinct types of incident. One is a player seeking to gain an advantage, the other is a player gaining an advantage. Duk's was just a player gaining an advantage. Not unsporting, not deliberate, not even particularly lucky. For the entire history of football, up until VAR, that would never have been a foul, because it very, very clearly wasn't deliberate. Because the handball rule existed to prevent people from seeking to gain an advantage by using their hand. Everyone that's kicked a ball before can - for the most part - tell whether a handball is deliberate or not. The rule as it was worked absolutely fine. 

VAR has changed the rules because it needs black and white, yes or no. It doesn't want referee discretion. It won't be long before the shitey VAR system is using "AI" to calculate whether a ball touched someone's hand, and so is automatically a foul. It's anti sport and anti sportsmanship. 

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Obviously had the Duk goal stood and we went 3-2 up with twenty plus minutes to go we don't know if the scoreline would have finished the same but I've still not had the heart to rip up a betting slip which reads:

 

£12 Celtic 2 v 3 Aberdeen (66/1).

 

Sat in kitchen drawer as we speak.

Lost my voice celebrating for nothing!!

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SeeBass said:

Obviously had the Duk goal stood and we went 3-2 up with twenty plus minutes to go we don't know if the scoreline would have finished the same but I've still not had the heart to rip up a betting slip which reads:

 

£12 Celtic 2 v 3 Aberdeen (66/1).

 

Sat in kitchen drawer as we speak.

Lost my voice celebrating for nothing!!

 

 

Ouch min, that's a sore one to swallow 

Guts of 800 notes there 😲

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3 hours ago, SeeBass said:

Obviously had the Duk goal stood and we went 3-2 up with twenty plus minutes to go we don't know if the scoreline would have finished the same but I've still not had the heart to rip up a betting slip which reads:

 

£12 Celtic 2 v 3 Aberdeen (66/1).

 

Sat in kitchen drawer as we speak.

Lost my voice celebrating for nothing!!

 

 

That would be a sore one. 

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