RicoS321

The only outfield player from the weekend not to have scored for us so far this season is Maynard. No real surprise, as he's absolutely pap. Impressive otherwise though.

He's way past his best anyway. Think he'd struggle up here these days. A year ago maybe he'd have been arite, but I expect he'll be retired in a year. Although Miller is still doing the business, so who knows.

I refuse to accept that.

Nah. He fucked the huns over. It was only Milsom he kicked mine.

Me neither. I just heard the Tim fact this morning on the radio about Delia's points total. Interestingly, I couldn't find a "same point last season" league table for the SPL anywhere on the internet (fairly limited search), meaning I had to manually count our totals after 19 games last season. Seems a glaring omission from all the dross that appears on the various fitba websites.

Me neither, I checked it back on the BBC highlights after Ten Caat mentioned it. It took me a lot of careful re-runs to hit the pause button at the correct time before taking my screenshot. It's probably as accurate as any sportscene effort.

Is it all in our heads? The tims are now 1 point worse off than they were under Delia a couple of seasons ago. The dons are now 5 points better than they were last season. McInnes is questioned (judged against his own performance), with Rogers given massive credit versus his predecessor. In the end, is it all easily measurable by the points gained at any one point? Will the questioning of McInnes subside after the tanking of hibs and previous fucking off of the huns? Will Rogers' deified position be quietly sidelined when the Tims start to question his abject European efforts and his inability to sign an actual centre half? More importantly, what makes us (including me, obviously) behave like hysterical mentalists and fail to notice the bigger picture of points return? Or are we correct? That's why I like going to the fitba. The answer is obvious to those who attend matches. We can see it for ourselves. We're all right, and every other cunt is wrong, of course.

You can see it better in the BBC highlights at around 3:40ish. When May kicks it, assuming the grass lines on the pitch are straight (sack the f'n groondsmen), then it's aff by about half a yard. Very difficult one for the linesman to spot given the trajectory of the ball etc.

Here's confirmation. Offside I reckon.

Made a soup the nicht because of this thread. Thai sweet potato and red lentil. I probably won't have any of it, it's for the wife's lunch the morn. Made a bit of effort on it this time, it looks fine. Didnae take photaes as it's in a tupperware.

Cheers lads, I shouldn't have doubted Rooney to get a goal against Saints, he loves scoring against them. That's not an appropriate comment to make about another person's daughter.

It's because of its shite location. It's an out of town shopping centre. Perth is a lovely city otherwise. We'll tank them. 0-3. Christie, Arneson and May

They look pretty phenomenal. I'm a bit lazy with my soups, leaving them a bit lacklustre at times. Div you use actual stock? I find this makes a big difference, but I don't eat a lot of meat, so I never have bones often enough. I struggle to make a really good veg stock too.

Mr Robot series 3. Very good. Very good series indeed.

They've just completed a new stand, I think any off-field failures can be allowed at present. They seem a reasonably well run club with a large fan involvement. However, they're playing 16 and 19 year olds because their first 11 is pap, not because they're running an amazing youth setup. It's like us playing Fyvie and Pawlett under McGhee and Brown. They were decent, but way too inconsistent to be regulars - they were just there because our first 11 was pish. Whilst McInnes is pap on bringing through youth in general, we have seen a lot of inconsistency in players like Wright, Storie, Smith etc whilst maintaining a strong league position, which sort of justifies his approach. McKenna has performed consistently and been rewarded for it. It's a catch 22 which McInnes isn't quite on the right side of I don't think, but just throwing youngsters into the team probably isn't the solution, and I fail to believe that Levein is the genius that will make it work.

It was blatantly obvious that he'd not be available in January. Too many clubs can afford the 600-700K that will be required to sign him. It was a one time only option to sign him really.

Why does Ross deserve a place? I'm not saying he doesn't, just intrigued by why you think he does. Given he was taken off at half time, I'm wondering if he maybe would be better coming off the bench. As for Harvie, I'm pretty certain he's a right back. Would prefer him to get time in his favoured position. Again, maybe from the bench. Logan deserves a rest. Played every game since he arrived just about.

I'm not sure he deserves his own thread.

You could be right, but it's a decent glass ceiling until we get the club on a better footing with a decent succession plan in place (not just for manager, but for the rest of the staff). However, it wasn't - necessarily - McInnes that didn't get us in to the group stages in Europe. We simply didn't have a good enough team. If the board - and I assume, here, that it was the board - had sanctioned a move for Moult, we'd have been there. The limits of our team were what didn't get us through as much as McInnes' limitations. We had no striker that we could pick away to Appolon that would have got us through.

Really? Were you scunnered when we demolished Dundee 7-0, Motherwell 7-2 and Partick 6-0? We played fitba we haven't seen since Miller was in charge last season. He's bought relatively badly in the summer it seems, but that can be put right in January.

The problem is that your making two points here. Surely the latter point "he allowed to drag on" is utter shite and we can all see that now? He had no offer. There was nothing to allow/disallow, the situation was outwith his control. Entirely. When the huns made their move, that was when the offer was there. You seem bitter, still, that he acted professionally, waiting for an approach, mulling it over and then deciding it wasn't for him. I think that's the only thing he could possibly have done, and those of us questioning him (including me) have to accept that we were wrong. Since the huns were rumoured to be approaching McInnes, we've played Motherwell and Rangers (twice) and Killie. Our line-ups against the hun (first game) and Motherwell were shite, but not untypical of the way McInnes approaches games like these, so obviously have nothing to do with the speculation. The final hun game, we (and McInnes especially) looked affected by the rumours and I don't think we can take huge issue with that given the intense press hassle. We're having a poor season, but actually our points total is pretty good considering we are seriously weakened across the pitch. It comes down to quality of signings, and I think we have to give McInnes a bit of time here as he had a huge - enforced - clear out in the summer. I suggested at the time that he was going to need at least a 100% strike rate in the transfer market to replace McGinn, Hayes, Jack, Taylor and add another striker or he'd have to buy in at least 8 players to hope that we can get 50% of them to click. It seems that we have the makings of a decent squad, but are probably 3 players short of a team that can finish second (centre mid, winger, striker). I think that's reasonable given the turnover of players. We simply need to grind out results (as we have been doing in the main) until January and act then. McInnes has done more than enough to allow him this time to re-build and we probably owe him that. His obvious flaws aside, at present we are better with him than without him. Hopefully the rejection of the huns will galvanise us until January. In the scheme of things, he's nae bad. His points returns in recent seasons suggest he's capable of getting us to second place. We had an hysterical point at the mid-point of last season, where we turned it round and had an excellent end to the season, there is every change to suggest we could do the same again. Pragmatism suggests McInnes will be our best option.

Genuine question, would it have been okay if she was ugly? By that, I mean, would it have made the news?

Jim Traynor.

Nope, he came on and played in the centre. We were 4 goals up at the time I think, possibly the Motherwell game but maybe Stranraer. Harvie is a right back isn't he? Hence why I wasn't suggesting he start at left back. He should see more game time as cover for both Logan and Considine/Shinnie though.

Aye, it was. We're not ready to change manager yet, we're not set up for it. McInnes can hang around for a good while if results allow and we get a structure in place that allows for good succession management. Not just in manager, but in club setup. Big January ahead. McInnes will need to get some decent signings if we're to manage to reclaim - and hold - second off the hun.