RicoS321

I used to love camping as a youngster. We never had a caravan, but stayed at a few caravan parks, and they were great places. I'd love a caravan for going away now and again in Scotland (or England). Although a tent would do the business. Never, ever get my wife to come though, she's of the same opinion as you. You're right about the current state of play though, however it's close to the easter holidays when plenty of folk head up that way for a break (was intending to myself, but cancelled - too many English!). Could just be thoughtlessly going up a week or so early. It all stems from the vagueness of the approach taken by the government in my opinion. It's barely a fortnight since herd mentality was all the rage.

I dinna get it, is it a phone call or a letter?

Can these cunts nae just play with masks and rubber gloves. Fucking poovery. Fan I was a loon, we'd be running aroon spitting on each other's open wounds before jumping, boner-first into an 86degree bath.

Freight/supplies possibly? I thought they'd lifted some of the restrictions on night time flying, but could be wrong.

I meant competency testing rather than virus testing. Just the basics like, so that errors can be avoided, new procedures understood and so on.

Is that how it works, genuinely? They send a letter? Do you have to do a test to ensure you're fit or whatever?

I was speaking to a guy at work today who thinks Boris is doing a great job (his actual words). The polls suggest the British public are broadly happy with, and trusting in, his performance. I don't get it. I'll just have to start reading the Telegraph I suppose and wait to die.

I'd have thought that because players contracts will run out in June and, unless the SFA offer a bail out for those players' salaries, they will be let go in due course. Unless, they've got something written in that covers for a season extension, which I suppose they might have. You could be talking completely different squads by September/October time unless the players have been given a guarantee of when games will be re-started by the time their contracts expire. All things considered, Hibs would be significantly more likely to be able to hold a squad together for several months than Livingston (and probably Motherwell) and thus will likely finish ahead of them. Several clubs might not even survive months without gate or season ticket receipts. I'd have thought that greater time that passes, the less likely a club's playing staff will resemble that which started the season/post-winter-break. To be honest, if there is a big layoff, then it can really only be a farce whichever way it goes (and I hope/think that it will be completed).

Maybe. What if Motherwell lose 5 players out of contract and we gain 5? We could potentially be finishing this season with an entirely different team to that which we started (or at least after the winter break). I'm in general agreement that we should finish the season, but I think voiding would be the right call if we go into October time with no movement. It'll forever be known as the tainted title otherwise, probably correctly. Obviously, that would face legal challenges from several clubs, fans who didn't get their season ticket's worth and the broadcaster so it would never happen, but I'm just talking from an integrity perspective. Money aside, I think voiding would be the right thing to do if a huge delay occurs. Also, I've always assumed that the hun will tail off and disperse (back to their early 80s crowds, and then bust) if the Tim won 10 in a row and I was sort of hoping that might occur. I think if Celtic are given the title or even if it resumes with vastly different squads then it gives them that glimmer of argument that the Tims cheated or some shite and they might keep returning. If they don't go bust waiting for the season ticket money, I think they come out of this quite well either way. Cunts.

Again, a deliberate call to arms for some of the Brexit supporting businesses, getting their payments for their support. It'll be a big manuacturer of some sort (not of health equipment), or along the lines of thon company they got to run the Brexit ferries.

Yes, schools will likely close by next week at the latest. I suspect head teachers and parents will overtake the government by removing kids etc, just like businesses were already getting people to work from home. What I mean is the overall admission will take a few weeks. They'll slowly unwind everything done to date. I expect testing to increase and increase to get up to (or close to) the levels that should have occurred weeks ago, without admitting that should always have been the case. Similarly, testing on NHS workers. Also, I expect that advice will change from "people shouldn't go to theatres etc" to "theatres are now closed". This will occur after the point at which a significant portion of those establishments, and pubs and so on, will have already gone bust. Thus saving the lobbying insurance companies a fortune in bailout payments that would have been due if the government had done the correct thing from day one. But, again, I could be talking shite. To me, everything just now points to economic decisions being made at every single point, over human decisions. Why would a government be so vague and non-binding about gatherings etc? This isn't incompetence, it's deliberate.

And by not enforcing the cancellation of mass gatherings, businesses won't be able to claim on their insurances (I think???)? Thus another fuck up. All because they don't want to do a u-turn. Instead they'll do an 83 point turn over the next few weeks and pretend that was the plan all along.

I don't think you were supposed to phone 111....

There is only one club in Scotland who could anonymously make that call and have that anonymity respected. If it was Hamilton, for example, they'd just say it was them. Anyway, there should actually be a pay out (or the offer of a payout) based on the top/bottom six split. Basically, pay those that can finish in the bottom six the payment for finishing bottom, and those guaranteed to finish top six the payment for finishing sixth (not us unfortunately but Motherwell are guaranteed top 6). Or they could make a payment based on lowest possible finish, but given that Hearts could still overtake us - by winning all remaining fixtures and us losing all our - that approach would probably be pointless. The bottom placed payment might give a brief bit of relief for struggling clubs.

How long before the UK government roll back their strategy and replace with one that every other country is doing, whilst pretending that was their idea all along? They've already consigned 1000s to die by not acting quick enough as part of their herd strategy which wasn't really their strategy at all it was just something Boris made sound like a strategy by saying it was a plan. The worrying thing for me is that the Scottish government seem to be following suit. There are enough experts saying that is a bucket of absolute horse shite that there should be more dissent from SNP ministers. If Jeremy Fuckstain Cunt can criticise his own government, we surely should be hearing more from our own ministers. Sturgeon will have a lot to answer for too at this rate, I don't think you can hide behind Westminster on something this important.

It really doesn't matter if we want summer fitba. There are two teams that can and will prevent it. A lot of clubs may struggle to make it to the start of the new season (please make it the huns).

Good stuff TC, I'm fairly certain you'll just get thrown back in at the deep end without concern for registration! Good for you like, I wouldn't fancy it (but would do it if I had the ability). Your saying that you don't believe that anywhere near 80% will catch it, but the herd strategy requires that somewhere near that figure get it. Without an NHS-overwhelming number getting it, the herd immunity won't work. In order for it to work, a large number of people must die at a 1% mortality rate. That's fairly fucked up.

To be fair to ten cast, I thought he was explaining the decision rather than agreeing with it. Anyway, I've thought some more and I still don't get it. These guys are scientists, so where the fuck is their published workings? I'm all for listening to experts, of course, but they shouldn't be immune to questioning or scrutiny (not even herd immune). They're suggesting that 60% infections - but perhaps as high as 70% (wtf???) - would be required. If ~13% (based on statista 2018) are 70 or over and probably a few percent more classed as high risk, then they''re pretty much saying that everyone that can conceivably survive it not only needs to get it in order for the plan to work, but should be morally compelled to do so. Simultaneously, they're expected to diligently wash their hands and also isolate if they get the illness, thus preventing others from joining the herd immunity herd. But making sure you only speak to 'al cunts via the internet. The thing that gets me is that we're asking the elderly and ill to isolate from the young. We're not all going to do it. It's the one instance where we all literally could have been "in it together", and we're choosing not to. I think we'll look back on this and see that we've performed a giant form of social/age cleansing. I think that we'll (and the US) be held up as the uncaring, selfish society that we are/have become. It'll be couched in denial and nationalism of course, but we'll all know that we sentenced our most vulnerable to death in order not to panic the markets or some fuck. Because even if you thought this herd bollocks had any chance of working, you'd err on the side of caution. Whilst businesses and sporting bodies will do the government's job mostly for them on this one by telling employees to work at home or cancelling events, the government is needed to make sure folk get paid, mortgage or rent payments suspended and such like, so it's absolutely vital that those in charge get their shit together. They're probably genuinely concerned that the veil of the economic system is thrown off for all to see, where you simply can just say "nobody has to pay their mortgage today" and it happens, and that there is - after all - a magic money tree.

"Some sort" of herd immunity? Surely there's either immunity or not? It suggests that whilst those 60% are gaining their immunity, those not immune could, at worst, die. It's not like you know who's going to be immune in advance. You also don't know how the remaining 40% will act or who they will interact with. You also have foreign people, who aren't part of this ridiculous experiment, still coming in and out of the country. It just sounds like utter horseshit.

How could it work? Surely herd immunity requires global herd immunity? I don't get it. Unless we're closing all borders until there's a vaccine? Is this nae yer basic smallpox training? I'm probably missing something.

FIFY.

I expect that there's a fairly substantial cost saving in reducing the capacity too. I'd give it another 5 years, see if there's any Scottish fitba left after the corona virus and then apply to re-develop Pittodrie. Milne can have the Kingsford site for hooses.

Cormack was asked specifically about it in his interview and he said they were "gathering data" in order to make sure they got the new stadium right. I'm assuming that data gathering exercise will also cover the fact that it's in fucking Westhill, which appears to have gone unnoticed.

Probably, although Cormack seemed to suggest it was about data gathering for the new stadium. Working out what works etc in terms of safe standing and the like. It sounded like it would be used as a barometer for Kingsford capacity to me. He was very non committal when asked about it.

Exactly, we should stop right now and relegate hearts, with our game against Motherwell on Friday being allowed to go ahead as a third place decider. Although given that we have also been given a cup win under this scenario, based on the alphabet, then maybe we can allow the Motherwell tinks their third place trophy.