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I don't care how we line up, and I don't care what the score is. Win - lovely. Nice way for Goodwin to sign off. Lose - I expect Goodwin gone by 8pm. Draw - He can have an extra hour to pack his bags. Gone by 9pm. He can win every week from now on. But I won't forget being told that Goodwin doesn't care what the fans think. I won't forget Goodwin storming down the tunnel after defeats to Hearts and Darvel without so much as looking at the fans. And I won't forget the slap to the face of the fans that the statement tonight was.

The players back him? Of course they do, he signed all but three of them and has no doubt put them all on handsome wages. Anthony Stewart isn't going to be calling for a new manager any time soon is he? This is knee-jerk reaction stuff no doubt, but I don't care if he beats a shite Hibs team or not, Goodwin is taking us nowhere. I won't be back and I hope Wednesday's game with St Mirren is an opportunity for everyone to boycott and show their displeasure. As for Cormack. I've been on the fence about him. Not anymore. Take your 16,000 capacity stadium idea and this latest woeful decision and go ruin some other club.

I dunno, I was saying earlier I'd love Shaun Maloney to be part of the new management team (especially if it's a foreign coach). Lots of experience, knows the club and city, knows the expectations, a good tactical thinker. However, I wouldn't want him as manager as, like with Hibs, I think he would struggle to command the dressing room. Paulo Sousa* & Shaun Maloney double act, with Jonny Hayes as player-coach. That's the team to lead us into the Europa Conference League group stage. *I'm also on board with the Geir Bakke shout someone made, and of course Ole Gunnar Solksjaer.

Aye, neither can.... Sorry.

I like it, I'm sold. See if he knows any more Duks too.

*intrigued *stock Unlike Goodwin, happy to own up to my mistakes.

Ole Gunnar Solksjaer. Get him in before Saturday. Danny Cowley though intrigues me, and I tend to think he's probably still on Cormack's radar. All the other names mentioned so far are a nonsense. But it's more than just the manager. The coaching structure needs overhauled. Glass tried to do it but lasted less than a season. Goodwin, Sharp & Samson is such a depressing team.

They were 33/1, because quite a few people had it on. Goodwin stood for most of the match with his arms folded, shouting very little, with no idea how to change things. Miovski & Besuijen subs was a "go on and see what you can do" as opposed to any sort of tactic change or plan. Once again, with it going against him, he didn't know how to turn the tide. I expect he'll be sacked on Tuesday once he speaks with Cormack (Cormack was at the game but the two never spoke at full-time). For me the next appointment has to be outwith Scotland, on account no-one in it inspires me. Lambert, Lennon, Tam Courts - no chance. Martindale & Davidson just another Goodwin. Steve Clarke surely not interested until after Euro 2024. Agne Postecoglou probably not interested (although may as well see what Celtic's price is...). Interested in maybe Danny Cowley. Stick has fallen since Portsmouth but still an interesting pick. I was at the Edinburgh derby on Sunday as a neutral. Watching Hearts, I still say they're a bang average side but they're effective, have bundles of confidence and belief, and their support was rocking for 90 minutes. They're tearing away in third again and will probably have guaranteed European football until Christmas again unless there's an almighty upset in the Cup. It's a sad day when you're jealous of Hearts. Hibs and Aberdeen though. Sacked somewhat stable managers who were underachieving in McInnes & Ross, tried something different with Glass & Maloney that didn't work out, and their current managers will be lucky to last to the fixture between the two teams at the weekend.

Nah, centre-back wouldn't suit Barron.

We did comfortably see off Stirling and Peterhead in "tricky" League Cup away ties, and even Goodwin's lack of tactical awareness shouldn't hinder us too much in this one. That said, I have put a wee bet on Aberdeen to win in extra-time. I just have a feeling. I also think 3-0 by half-time, so..

I think sometimes you just don't know how good a manager is until he's your manager and you're assessing him every week. McInnes I thought was a very good motivator and his training appeared to be pretty good. Those were two factors which put him above Goodwin and at least help mask those areas he wasn't great in. Goodwin is struggling to show any real positives about him.

Did he though? He got them promoted from the Championship (to be expected), lost a few semi-finals, and by the time he quit they were eighth.

Whatever happens we will be in the draw - it takes place on Sunday at 6pm.

You posted this on another thread and I presumed you were joking, but now you've posted it twice I fear you might actually be serious. Owen Coyle? Who had an 18% win record at Ross County? Winning in India and in the Scottish Championship is not nearly enough to get him on Aberdeen's radar.

I think he should go. I think Glass should have been given more time as I could see what he was trying to do but didn't have the players to do it. And at least you could see with his substitutions he was reading the game and trying to change things. But, with players like Funso Ojo, Teddy Jenks and Declan Gallagher - it was never going to be a fruitful season (yet just one point less than our current points total). With Goodwin, I don't see what his plan is. I don't see any evidence of being able to read a game and change things. Dundee United, Rangers (Ibrox), Hibernian, Kilmarnock and Hearts - five examples of him having no idea to stop a poor night turning into a bad one. His substitutions at times just seem random. I don't watch the training - but I don't really see what we're working on and at times we don't appear that fit either. Yes, the squad is still lacking, maybe third is too ambitious for his first season. But even if Aberdeen finished fourth now, the manner of some of the defeats have been horrendous, and we're being helped by others around us having poor seasons (Hibs and Dundee United mainly). McInnes was sacked for less (although granted, he had ample chances to improve it). I don't see what keeping Goodwin would achieve, unless he suddenly improves training, tactics, and in-game management in a short space of time.

For what? Are applications for the new turnstile operator still open?

He did very well at Molde to be fair. Won the league in his first season (they had been 11th the previous season), and then won it the following season too. In his second spell he did well in Europe, and took them from sixth to two consecutive second place finishes. I can't say I paid attention to what he did at Cardiff, but Man Utd just seemed a huge task for anyone. We're not going to get a Kjel Knutsen. It's a manager in Scotland looking to make a step up, or someone who has a mixed record.

Is it too soon to bring this thread back? Absolutely not to Jack Ross and Neil Lennon. Want a bit more ambition than Stephen Robinson and David Martindale. No, Derek McInnes is not going to recreate his early days with Aberdeen. His time has been and gone. Steve Clarke I don't think would be interested before he's had the chance to get Scotland to another major championship. And I'm not overly enamoured with him anyway. I think he does okay for Scotland but could do better with the squad he has there. And by fuck he's boring in interviews. The Cowley brothers were apparently interviewed before. Can't say I'm an expert on what went wrong for them at Portsmouth, but the consensus was they relied too heavily on loans and injury prone players - a bit McInnes-esq perhaps. Still, the avalanche of goodwill messages Pompey fans have given them suggests they left a mark there and I actually wouldn't be against seeing what they can do. In relative terms, our budget in Scottish football is bigger than Portsmouth in English football (in that we're the third biggest here) so less loans and a young talented team to work with might suit them. But, Ole Gunnar Solksjaer for the win.

I backed him for the Aberdeen job as he had St Mirren defensively well organised (maybe too well at times as they weren't always a great watch). And, you could see he was attempting to slowly them into a more attractive side. They also had a knack of getting results against bigger sides, especially at home. Very much like this season under Stephen Robinson. I expected him to be a manager who would keep it basic - defend the box, even long ball football, but get results and slowly develop the side over time into a more attractive one. So I thought he deserved the chance to see what he could do with a bigger budget. However, he's shown he's still far too inexperienced for a job this big. Maybe one day he still develops into a good manager, but I see that being 3/4 years away at the rate he's progressing and I don't think Aberdeen can afford that.

Despite his deficiencies defensively (and he showed them at Tynecastle), I think there is a player there in Coulson and I'd take him on a permanent deal to see if he good be developed further. Same with Scales. But whoever suggested above Rangers and Celtic would be looking at Coulson. Absolutely no chance! He couldn't hold a candle to Greg Taylor or Borna Barisic.

Goodwin's tenure. The positives:- We've had a few big wins at home (although many were against lower league opposition, against 10 men, or aided by penalties) Got us to Hampden (didn't meet one Premiership side on the way kind you - and we were taken to extra-time by Annan). Win over Hearts at home was pretty good. Decent performance at Hampden at the weekend. If you want scrape the barrel, then winning at Fir Park was alright. The negatives:- Were taken to extra-time by Annan Dismal away record Thumped at Ibrox Thumped at Tannadice Thumped at Tynecastle Many other poor performances. Hibs, St Mirren, Kilmarnock, Motherwell - take your pick. The abomination of time wasting and playing for a draw at home to Celtic. Blowing a lead to Rangers in time added on and ending up with a defeat. The inability to engage his brain in interviews which has seen him publicly embarrass Considine, Bates and Ramirez, get himself banned for calling Porteous a cheat, and claim he couldn't care less what Dons supporters on the internet think about him. Told Scott Brown his services as a coach weren't needed. So far, we've yet to see much evidence Goodwin's coaching is up to par. Signed a League One defender that was new to Scottish football and made him captain. To think, a year ago we had Scott Brown as captain. Decided not to sign enough defenders meaning there is no competition for places and McCrorie is having to continue to fill in there. After nearly a year in the job and £1.5-2m spent, we're no better. There's probably others. At least Glass had a plan, but lacked the players to carry it out. Goodwin is just throwing money around but failing at pretty much everything.

If you're laughing at me saying Hearts are bang average, I stand by it. They are bang average. See above post.

Odd game in that it was never a 5-0 game, and at times Hearts were actually really poor. A lot of Aberdeen attacks stemmed from Hearts inability to pass or win 50/50s. Incredible that they've ended up with a 5-0 win when on another night a well organised and clinical team would have beaten them. However, that doesn't mean we were unlucky. We can't defend, have a manager who is as tactically inept a boss as I can remember (I thought Roy Aitken was the worst in that respect). The starting XI was good enough to win the game, they lost 5-0. It was not a one off, it's six defeats in eight.

No no, I have Barron sat in the middle making passes. Hayes is the attacking midfielder with Kennedy also bombing forward. Really disappointing I've had to publicly explain my tactics. If Robbie Neilson reads this we've given away our advantage.