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Afeez or Kjartan will need to start Wednesday-Auchiche away to Schalke apparently

Auchiche to Schalke apparently

Permanent or loan?

Like history repeating itself…..

Didn’t quote a timeline just said it was a permanent deal- certainly not 4 months wouldn’t be surprised if either Chris Harvey got it wrong or if we were signing him for 2 years- both parties are liable to a faux pas from time to time

Grampian news said he was coming in on a permanent deal? For this one, try before you buy would be the more sensible option

Poor Nigel starting to realise he is now the leader of the party that failed previously- wonder if he will use the same anti-immigration messages to stop defecting tories before they bring him down Can actually see the Liberals and the greens doing well by default

Certainly a bit of that- Cameron and Armstrong came short but generally well marked. Shinnie too but you feel as he is so left footed he is easier for opponent to read the pitch doesn’t help for give and goes- ball bobbling all over the place, and was pleasantly surprised overall considering the wind as well how many decent passages of play we managed yesterday But as a centre half, if no movement in front, drop it down the channel behind the centre half and make them turn on it now and again- passing back and forth between centre half’s hoping the other will take responsibility is scourge of modern fitba

Don’t think was in tunnel - the players were being separated going in their lad seemed to react after the stramash so not sure. Will probably never get to the truth as for VAR - Nisbet may have been offside when the lines weren’t working- but WTF was the linesman doing? He didn’t raise his flag even after the ball was in the net so he obviously didn’t think it was offside- or just absolved himself of any responsibility. Was the same with the Livi goal that was checked- Lino didn’t raise flag. If the circumstances show VAR not working, then the linesman’s view should be the deciding factor- rightly or wrongly. Thought Nilsen goal would be chalked off for a push so found it bizarre that they were checking for handball- still think on another day it might have been given as a foul, but having declared it was handball they were checking, think they didn’t want to then disallow it for something else as they had already made themselves look incompetent (There wasn’t much of a push for avoidance of doubt but did have both hands on defenders back who threw himself to the ground) finally to the game when we play with urgency and tempo we look good going forward and massive improvement on the pedestrian nonsense we have witnessed so much this season as said before - Topi, Frame standouts but far better performances from majority of the team Bilalovic didn’t get it right all the time but at least he was taking the full back on and trying to get to bye line unlike Milanovic Milne needs taken out of the team for his own good- confidence is so low he is afraid to make a forward pass in case he gives it away livi were pish though- only thing worse was Ross Hardie

not optimistic Another game that will be ruined by foul weather- may not favour our tippy tappy midfield or our centre half’s who even on a calm day couldn’t read the path of the ball if it was on flight radar. Maybe Morrison will make a difference? trying to remember the last game at Pittodrie when it wasn’t blowing a gale Martindale will have his team up for a battle- hopefully our guys get the message

Classic thread on abmad about Hoggy’s plan to jet ski to Norway - ambition was better than actual delivery it’s a bit like our transfer policy

Chaos reminds me more of Pape Gueye

Robinson has worked on building a team that is hard to beat, works hard and physically competitive - where is the players for him to work with in our squad? Shinnie and Devlin but that’s about it and they are getting to the end of their careers Apart from the cup win, even his stock in trade hasn’t worked and their form is as bad as ours. like replacing Jimmy with another Jimmy (cup win masking over the cracks) maybe it has just gone stale at Paisley after punching above their weight for last couple of years and the cup win made players believe they were better than they are i agree that we are no better or worse position that St Mirren despite wasting some money on players not good enough, but for all the vision of wanting to play attractive football, only Motherwell have really managed to do that competitively and will still likely win nothing. Cathro, Maloney and Glass were appointed to play open attractive football but didn’t work in this league as the majority of the other teams just physically outmuscled them I just hope we get the right balance of steel and silky football correct this time

Was just about to post the same- make ludicrous demands, rattle the markets, buy some stock, back track, markets bounce back, sell stock at profit old as time he’s still bitter about only getting Infantino’s peace award and not a Nobel one though…

Hopefully if he is walking, by the time he gets here, we have appointed someone else

Refer to post on match thread- loan system just allows clubs to manipulate their squads- we do the same with our youngsters (and our shite players when nobody will buy them when under contract) doesn’t matter who the loan comes from - loans are one sided without an agreement to buy ( which is another way of manipulating financial rules)- but loans from 2 teams in the same league should not be allowed

He was given gentle applause when going to take corners at the start of the game and was generally applauded when he did something decent of note. Banner at the red shed before the game that said “NO OLD FIRM LOANS” but didn’t notice jeering towards him. and this is the bit that pisses me off- reported that he received a hostile environment- even Willie Miller on the radio was going on about he will win the fans over and they will forget his Hunnishness and the long standing rivalry Completely missing the point that it is not Cameron the fans are unhappy with, it is the fckn nonsense that we are loaning a player to develop for them and give game time too - for their long term benefit. without a clause that allows us to buy, this is one sided deal that we will be shafted again like Scales and Christie Hate the loan system as it just allows teams to manipulate their squads, and loans between teams in the same league should just be banned

There was nothing on club statement about option to buy and reading Cameron’s quotes he is here to show what he can do in this league to me that reads show Danny Rohl what he can do so he gets more chance next season Pathetic move from the club and regardless of the how the lad plays, shouldn’t be borrowing players from either arse cheek to develop them for the future try a bit harder developing our players

What he said

Sad but inevitable. Thanks for the Scottish Cup and the winning start that had us believing in something special- just feel that stubbornness during the first poor run and the constant changing didn’t help with consistency and patterns of play. As for the players - Jimmy was right yesterday- some of them do need to have a hard look in the mirror - no pride, no heart, and no matter what tactics are employed your minimum output should be 100% effort

I’m in the bin it camp too one thing was interesting in the under 17 championships was the coaches had challenge cards - so like tennis / cricket, they had to put the challenge it to get review with limited number of challenges- 1 per half? No idea the fundamental problem is the officiating is just so bad - VAR being used or not being used will not fix that

We actually played better than we have of late although still too pedestrian in the first half. Only once we were a goal down did we play with any urgency and we looked far better. Why can’t we do that from 1st whistle? Mitov should not lose the 2nd and 3rd goals- really poor. On the balance of the shitefests of the last few weeks I suppose one would bite us, but what an opportunity missed to be 3 points off of 3rd

Thanks for the explanation- 5 weeks seems excessive given the work day sometimes comprises of an hour and a half of “training” i understand that players deserve downtime like everyone else and need to physically recover given more games being played, but feel we could be be doing more with some of the downtime when it becomes available modern fitba is p1sh

Will be amazed if the first team that are not on international duty don’t have the week off or at least a few days. It seems to be the norm these days which is utter nonsense. I get that the season has extended - especially if you are having to play Euro qualifiers in July and players need rest breaks, but the amount of international breaks is getting beyond a joke. I’m sure some of those with social media will confirm the location(s) of our first team

On the flip side to that, went to Athens where we really needed to shut up shop and we went gung ho into a hiding need to know when to be aggressive going forward and when to pack the defence