It's not a cop out, we argued before and you didn't take in anything I said, called me names and done your usual, since Jan betting has been where I've been making money, so technically I am a professional but I'm still learning along the way, I've used cash out a few times previously, used it the other week purely because I was getting offered double my stake on a player I knew wouldn't play the NFL match he was rumoured to be starting, causing his price to come in. As for knowing professional gamblers I know a few, a couple are former traders, guys that didn't like the way the industry is going and one that had a huge say in a major betting firm starting cash out, there's no real point in me saying anymore as you won't believe any of that and that's fair enough.