Independence - Yay or Nay

[tom_widdows]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/the-siege-of-balamory#yairhk

[BobbyBiscuit]

Good luck with paying for your prescription

 

Prescription charges? Someone wouldn't move country because they get charged £4 an item? Really?

Free prescriptions should be the case for those who genuinely can't afford it, everyone else should be paying for them, a total fucking nonsense that they aren't.

 

[dave_min]

It costs less to give free prescriptions to everybody than it did to administer the system of who got for free and who didn't. You can also still pay for prescriptions if you chose to.

 

I voted first thing this morning and it was the first time I'd ever seen another voter in my polling station, made a refreshing change.

[Tyrant]

It costs less to give free prescriptions to everybody than it did to administer the system of who got for free and who didn't. You can also still pay for prescriptions if you chose to.

 

I voted first thing this morning and it was the first time I'd ever seen another voter in my polling station, made a refreshing change.

 

 

When's the celebration barbecue?

[tom_widdows]

It costs less to give free prescriptions to everybody than it did to administer the system of who got for free and who didn't. You can also still pay for prescriptions if you chose to.

 

I voted first thing this morning and it was the first time I'd ever seen another voter in my polling station, made a refreshing change.

 

I believe the average prescription cost to the NHS (Scotland at least) is about £4 per item. So when you are prescribed standard paracetamol, ibuprofen or similar which can be picked up from the supermarket for about 50p per pack you happily get them free from your chemist while £3.50 disappears from the NHS budget.

 

Free prescriptions are all fine and well but they are taking the piss in some cases and I cannot help but wonder if there is a direct link with the demise with the standards in certain hospitals or the fact you sometimes find your next available GP appointment is 3 weeks away?

 

I have no objections with Diabetics, Asthmatics, or other long term/ permanent conditions having free or at least reduced costs for their meds but anti-biotics for a sniffle or a bug? There are people in my office who appear to be ill 52 weeks a year and chucking down their free meds from the doctor without getting any better. Dare to suggest they might want to look at their lifestyle for a cure and yer suddenly a monster.

 

Like it or not the Health service is a business and to suddenly remove a large chunk of your funding without finding an alternative source is going to result in cost savings.

 

I will happily pay for my prescriptions if it means there are a few extra nurses/ doctors around and my local A & E or maternity unit stays open.

I'll happily pay extra taxes if it results in the same thing but the default position for any politician with serious aspirations for power is to wheel out the 'we'll cut taxes' to the point when everything either shuts down or is privatised.

 

 

 

[tom_widdows]

Vote is now cast.

 

funny the no campaign outside our polling both, was asking everyone to say no. fair enough.

 

my comment back was, in your campaign leaflets. " no thanks " to everyone laughing

 

whats worrying me though is the divisions in households up and down our country where no voters main argument where.

 

"I will sell up and move to England"  Ok I'll get your coat. Good luck with paying for your prescription and cuts to your pension oh and the bed room tax when the torries implement it nationwide. Like the poll tax

 

"I will loose my benefits."  My response, Get a job then

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"I will loose my job for someone with less training than me"  So your going to be made redundant on friday morning? if that's the case SUE them. They cant fire you because you have had MORE TRAINING for Gods sake.

 

So has anyone else had no voters like this?

 

 

 

Re-reading this the following image suddenly flashed into my mind

 

 

 

Bedroom tax is a devolved power. There is also no guarantee the Tories will be in power next June and UKIP? Aye right!!

 

State pensions as everyone imagines them are doomed because they were created when average life expectancy was 70 at best. If you think any government can guarantee they won't be cut without increasing income tax I say you are deluded

 

Benefits wise I can't recall anything about this in either campaign but see my comment about pensions. Getting a job isn't the problem. Getting a job that allows you to live is.

 

Being made redundant and being sacked are not the same thing. If you are ever unfortunate enough to be made redundant and decide to sue your former employers please keep me informed as to how it pans out.

 

 

[BobbyBiscuit]

was just about to say that, Tom...

 

Also, would it not make more sense to just find a better system of knowing who should or who shouldn't get free prescriptions?

[manc_don]

And so the waiting game begins. Bit frustrating not being in the UK at moment. Even less coverage in Europe!

[tom_widdows]

And so the waiting game begins. Bit frustrating not being in the UK at moment. Even less coverage in Europe!

 

Thankfully 'Live & Let Die' is on ITV4

[Andrew]

Anyone staying up? My head is fucking spinning atm. No idea what's going to happen but I feel things aren't going to be good.

[tom_widdows]

Anyone staying up? My head is fucking spinning atm. No idea what's going to happen but I feel things aren't going to be good.

 

All depends on how you voted as to whether things will be good, bad or indifferent.

Either way the aftermath from this whole episode is going to last for best part of 10 years I say. Every time something goes wrong I have no doubt someone will pipe up with ' well if we had all voted <insert Yes or No> then this would never have happened.

 

For me personally the really interesting part is seeing how the rest of the UK will react.

 

Allegations of voting fraud in Glasgow - 10 separate votes in different polling stations

[tom_widdows]

Clackmananshire - 89% turnout

 

Yes - 16350 (46%)

No -  19036 (54%)

Rejected - 24

[Andrew]

Going to be a long horrible night.

[tom_widdows]

SNP apparently saying West Lothian has voted No

[Andrew]

What a shite wee country we are.

[tom_widdows]

Orkney - 83.7%

 

Yes - 4,883 33%

No - 10,004 67%

Rejected - 4

[tom_widdows]

Shetland - 84% turnout

 

Yes - 5,669 - 36%

No - 9,951 = 64%

Rejected - 15

[tom_widdows]

Western Isles - 86.2% turnout

 

Yes - 9,195  47%

No -  10,544 53%

Rejected - 14

[tom_widdows]

Inverclyde - 87.4%

 

Yes - 27,243 - 49.9%

No -  27,329 - No - 51.1%

Rejected - 29

[tom_widdows]

Renfrewshire - 87.3%

 

Yes - 55,466 47%

No -  62,067 53%

Reject - 79

 

 

Dundee - 78.8%

 

Yes - 53,620 57%

No - 39,880  43%

Rejected - 92

 

Thanks to Dundee theres only 6385 votes in it with 25 still to declare including Glasgow, Aberdeen & Edinburgh

[Andrew]

Dundee the capital of an independent Scotland. Was hoping it would be at least 60% yes though. Still planning my move to Ireland.

[tom_widdows]

West Dunbartonshire - 87.9%

 

Yes - 33,720 54%

No -  28,776 46%

reject - 36

 

 

 

Midlothian - 86.6%

 

Yes - 26,370 44%

No - 33,972 56%

Reject - 53

 

 

[tom_widdows]

East Lothian - 87.6%

 

Yes - 27,467 - 38%

No - 44,283 - 62%

Reject - 48

 

Stirling - 90.1%

 

Yes - 25,010 40%

No -  37,153 60%

Reject - 62

 

38,002 lead for No now

[tom_widdows]

Falkirk - 88.7%

 

Yes - 50,489 47%

No - 58,030 53%

Reject - 107

 

45,563 Lead for No

[Andrew]

Any know of any jobs in Ireland?