Someone seems to ask about this every other day at the moment....maybe we should sticky this:

 

• 4th gets you into the 2nd qualifying round, 1st leg 16th July, 2nd leg 23rd July
  
• 3rd gets you into the 3rd qualifying round, 30th July/6th august
  
• Cup Winners gets you into the 4th qualifying round (final round before the groups), 20/27th August
   
  

 

NB: Proposed SPL start 8th August (or 15th if Burley gets his way)

 

• Qualification List
  http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/qual2009.html
  
• good table here that gives an idea of which countries' clubs enter when
  http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/access2009.html
   
  

 

Cup Loser Rule:

If the cup winner of a country also qualifies for the Champions League, then the losing team of the cup final is qualified for the UEFA Cup. If both cup finalists qualify for the Champions League, then an additional team based on league position will be qualified. However, the losing cup finalist does not get the UEFA Cup cup-winner spot, but is treated as a league entrant. The 'cup- winner' spot of that country goes to the team with the highest league position. In some countries (England and France) the last league entrant position is given to the League Cup Winner.

Not looked at the rules so can one of you tell me if we can play Motherwell or are teams c=from the same country kept apart in qualifying.  Let me know your thoughts

I'd take Derry City in that wee bunch 

 

If it was Derry I could make the second leg if it was away, so I too would take it. Plus it would be some trip.

uefa are dropping seeding for the champions league qualifiers......to help spice it up!!....

 

not sure if they are doing similar at europa league level?

 

UEFA Cup is seeded.

 

Here is a full list of likely seeds for the qualifying rounds

 

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seedel2009.html

 

We will definitely be seeded for Q2 and Q3.

 

If we make it to Q4, as on the Mad post, it will be tough to get a seeded spot.

 

 

 

I'd take Derry City in that wee bunch 

 

I would be delighted if we drew Derry City 

I hope we get Motherwell and we can kill them

P&J suggests that is Rangers win the cup our first game is July 30th, and if Falkirk do it's July 16th. Are they wrong?

I think I must have been getting confused with all the ifs, buts and maybes, as I thought we were playing on the 16th/23rd if Rangers won, and the beginning of July if Falkirk did. Which means even if I wanted to I can't go to the away leg. Better still be in Europe in September!

I think I must have been getting confused with all the ifs, buts and maybes, as I thought we were playing on the 16th/23rd if Rangers won, and the beginning of July if Falkirk did. Which means even if I wanted to I can't go to the away leg. Better still be in Europe in September!

 

Rangers win the cup:

Motherwell - 2nd/9th July

Falkirk - 16/23rd July

Aberdeen 30th/6th July/August

Hearts - 20th/17th August(round before the group stages)

 

If Falkirk win they are where Hearts are and Hearts and Aberdeen go down one place.

When is the draw?

 

Would I be right in saying we only play teams that have came through from previous qualifiers?

 

There are some big teams that enter at our stage.

 

Bilbao, Fulham, Roma, Fenerbahce and PSV are the bigger ones.

 

Ouch, didn't realise there would be teams of that calibre! 

Ouch, didn't realise there would be teams of that calibre! 

 

It's cool, we're seeded with them.

 

When is the draw?

 

 

Think I read somewhere that the draw for the first three rounds is 22nd June.

Think I read somewhere that the draw for the first three rounds is 22nd June.

 

According to the wiki page it's only the first 2 rounds drawn on 22nd June.

 

The third round (us) is drawn on 17th July, at which point only the first leg of the previous round will have been played.

I can't believe we're not chatting about this more.

 

Unless we have a cheap and near-by qualifier, my first away may more than likely be group stage or initial knock out.

 

Well exciting.

 

 

 

We will only reach the knockout phase with Aidy in charge

I can't believe we're not chatting about this more.

 

Unless we have a cheap and near-by qualifier, my first away may more than likely be group stage or initial knock out.

 

Well exciting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dick.

 

Haha!

I can't believe we're not chatting about this more.

 

Unless we have a cheap and near-by qualifier, my first away may more than likely be group stage or initial knock out.

 

Well exciting.

 

 

 

 

Me too, I'll still be on holiday when we are due to play the first qualifier.

Me too, I'll still be on holiday when we are due to play the first qualifier.

 

We are away first.

 

Can you comfirm that we are away in the first leg?

Can you comfirm that we are away in the first leg?

 

Yes.

We are away first.

 

 

Both legs man, missing them both.

 

A bit like life for me really. 

Both legs man, missing them both.

 

A bit like life for me really. 

 

David Murray.

Yes.

 

Source?

 

(For being away first.)