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Just when you thought things couldn't get much worse, there's another Dons match coming up. It's on Wednesday 28th with a 7:45 pm GMT kick-off.

Aberdeen are pish and Falkirk are not, so I fancy a 0-2 home defeat for the Dismal Dons.

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  • OrlandoDon
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    I’m 100% behind cormack. It’s the yank in me. He’s willing to spend money and take risks. He wants to be successful and will gamble, he’ll listen to feedback and try to hire those who can do their job

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    Not the worst line up given the circumstances

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That was absolutely horrific. Not terrible first half, but what in the actual fuck was that second half performance?

Some fans getting into the halloween spirit early by dressing up; along with a bunch of clowns dressing up as Aberdeen players.

That was just complete pish. Falkirk FFS. Regardless of how many injuries the players we have should have enough about them to put on better than that. Absolutely criminal taking Mouloua off. Quite how he thought Olusanya was going to come to the rescue is baffling.

This is the first time since I started following them that I can genuinely say I don’t give a fuck about any of the players or management. I don’t like any of them.

Cormack will do what Cormack always does. Stick his head in the sand hoping it will fix itself. Once we have been pumped in every competition then he will act just as the transfer window slams shut and we are stuck with the worst bunch of players ever assembled. Not one Aberdeen standard player amongst them. Imagine getting your first dons top and having to pick one of these fkers names to put on the back.

No heart, no fight, no quality

Bet we were amazing in training though.

What the fuck did Robinson say to them at half time. We were not great in first half but still in the game. Second half we offered so little and had no energy or urgency. Then he made the subs and made us worse.

14 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Other than Armstrong we have such little quality on the ball. We’re not skilled, not hard working, and not determined. And we don’t appear to have a manager who is creative, motivational, or forward thinking. Hugely worrying.

He’s massively out of his depth.

A second rate jobber manager who has just signed the level of second rate jobber players he’s used to working with, but at a club where the expectations and budget are well above this level.

0-0 at home, half an hour to go and you bring on Olusanya when you’re needing a go get a goal and a win - sums it up perfectly.

He got the chance to step up a level, he’s not got anywhere near what it takes, so back to small club anonymity ASAP it is. He’ll do fine at Partick Thistle or whatever backwater he ends up in.

Let him own the absolute humiliation that’s coming on Saturday, then fire him. Only fair he owns what’s coming this weekend cause it’s on him.

Then onto the next ridiculous appointment & start the cycle again.

I’m not even annoyed, they’ve knocked pretty much all the giving a fuckness out of me now…

13 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

This is the first time since I started following them that I can genuinely say I don’t give a fuck about any of the players or management. I don’t like any of them.

My kids went up to play tabke tennis after about ten minutes. No interest.

3 minutes ago, The.Moog said:

I’m not even annoyed, they’ve knocked pretty much all the giving a fuckness out of me now…

Casual conversation with pals has had this feeling pop up pretty quickly. Mental that we're here so quickly after the cup win.

6 minutes ago, Jormungandr said:

Casual conversation with pals has had this feeling pop up pretty quickly. Mental that we're here so quickly after the cup win.

It’s just been diabolical mismanagement of the club. As bad as anything we saw under Milne.

What an opportunity absolutely blown.

Negligence bordering on the criminal.

Let’s hope Bevington has something about him & can somehow help dig us out the hole we’re in, cause no other cunt in that board and front office will…

Edited by The.Moog

If we didn't have a semi-final on Saturday, I could see Robinson sacked tomorrow. I think Hampden is going to save him. And even then, it might be his last chance.

Our home record this season.

Hearts 2-1

Rangers 0-1

Kilmarnock 0-0

St Johnstone 0-1

St Mirren 3-1

Falkirk 0-1

Six home games. Four of them we haven't scored in. Even the two we won we didn't play particularly well (maybe give him the second half performance v St Mirren).

It's his squad. He brought in 15 players, and doesn't know what to do with them.

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28 minutes ago, The.Moog said:

He’s massively out of his depth.

A second rate jobber manager who has just signed the level of second rate jobber players he’s used to working with, but at a club where the expectations and budget are well above this level.

0-0 at home, half an hour to go and you bring on Olusanya when you’re needing a go get a goal and a win - sums it up perfectly.

He got the chance to step up a level, he’s not got anywhere near what it takes, so back to small club anonymity ASAP it is. He’ll do fine at Partick Thistle or whatever backwater he ends up in.

Let him own the absolute humiliation that’s coming on Saturday, then fire him. Only fair he owns what’s coming this weekend cause it’s on him.

Then onto the next ridiculous appointment & start the cycle again.

I’m not even annoyed, they’ve knocked pretty much all the giving a fuckness out of me now…

Subbing on Olusanya and Milne was guaranteed to produce a goal.

35 minutes ago, irnbru1903 said:

Cormack will do what Cormack always does. Stick his head in the sand hoping it will fix itself. Once we have been pumped in every competition then he will act just as the transfer window slams shut and we are stuck with the worst bunch of players ever assembled. Not one Aberdeen standard player amongst them. Imagine getting your first dons top and having to pick one of these fkers names to put on the back.

I just don't get the hate folk have for Cormack. He has made sure managers have sufficient funds to put better teams on the pitch and as a club we are in a better state than we were before he came on board. Various manager have come and gone and other than one day in May nothing has worked. Most folk thought at the time that McInnes's time had come and gone as the fitba was absolutely rancid. He's tried young managers, old managers, the tried and tested Scottish managers, foreign manager. It's not him that puts the team on the park. it's not him that does the tactics, it's not him that makes fuck ups at the back, see Muller, Milne etc. It's not him that misses open goals. So there are far more folk that deserve criticism than him see the current manager and most of the playing staff.

8 minutes ago, Panda said:

It's his squad. He brought in 15 players, and doesn't know what to do with them.

Thats it right there

He needs to go. We can’t allow him another transfer window

2 minutes ago, Brochred said:

I just don't get the hate folk have for Cormack. He has made sure managers have sufficient funds to put better teams on the pitch and as a club we are in a better state than we were before he came on board. Various manager have come and gone and other than one day in May nothing has worked. Most folk thought at the time that McInnes's time had come and gone as the fitba was absolutely rancid. He's tried young managers, old managers, the tried and tested Scottish managers, foreign manager. It's not him that puts the team on the park. it's not him that does the tactics, it's not him that makes fuck ups at the back, see Muller, Milne etc. It's not him that misses open goals. So there are far more folk that deserve criticism than him see the current manager and most of the playing staff.

He’s a total weirdo which doesn’t help

We have a journeyman average bottom 6 manager, I don’t think that’s unfair. He’s shown nothing to suggest he has the qualities to make us a better than average team at best, and he’s done nothing at all to suggest he is a better than average manager. Don’t see motivation, tactics, creativity, in game adaptability, or a keen eye for a player. In the media, haven’t heard a single thing to suggest he’s deep thinking, creative, intelligent, and in it for the long haul.

We replaced an entire squad with players who are the same or worse than we had. We clearly see that.

Mitov wasn’t great, both he and muller have their flaws, both are shaky but do make some good saves. Neither are Joe Lewis.

Cadden worse than devlin, although devlin is in decline, mayo and happe aren’t an upgrade hence were back to seeing Milne and molloy again, and NGW isn’t an upgrade on McKenzie. Neither is gyamfi, and wtf with frame?

We still have no decent wingers, none have started and played a good game. Best has been sub appearances from smith but today sums him up, given a start and nothing. I think Afeez is decent, briedl a bust, Lyons a mediocre squad player, Ronan nothing special at all with injury concerns. Tough to expect a lot from Marshall when there’s no senior quality around him to help him.

Up top it doesn’t really matter. Our midfield is so bad the forwards get awful service. I’d compare Mouloua to sokler, he may be decent on a decent team but a combo of nisbet being 9 (like Sokler having miovski) and always being priority, and the lack of game time/consistent time, he’ll never find true sharpness or form. No clue if Ntelo is any good, I assume he was signed to play speedy winger but quickly showed he’s not that, and doesn’t appear better than nisbet Mouloua or olusanya. As for olusanya, we’re such a bad team we expect more than he’s capable of delivering. He should be a scrappy sub for us, nothing more, but we’re so desperate for players we want more than he’s capable.

Last point, we have no captain. We were sold on Lyons happe and others being leaders, we had no leader today. No drive from players to inspire us to or drag us to the finish line. Nobody stood up, this team doesn’t seem to have the character we were told. I’m also not a fan of nisbet, early goals give us false hope, and he doesn’t do that much else. I’d even wonder Mouloua and olusanya would be a better front two.

In summery, we’re fucked.

18 minutes ago, Panda said:

It's his squad. He brought in 15 players, and doesn't know what to do with them.

You’d make a great politician. When I made this very point in another thread back in September your response was “Are they all his signings though? The point of the head coach set up is that recruitment is dealt with elsewhere.”

So is it his squad or not?

7 minutes ago, Brochred said:

I just don't get the hate folk have for Cormack. He has made sure managers have sufficient funds to put better teams on the pitch and as a club we are in a better state than we were before he came on board. Various manager have come and gone and other than one day in May nothing has worked. Most folk thought at the time that McInnes's time had come and gone as the fitba was absolutely rancid. He's tried young managers, old managers, the tried and tested Scottish managers, foreign manager. It's not him that puts the team on the park. it's not him that does the tactics, it's not him that makes fuck ups at the back, see Muller, Milne etc. It's not him that misses open goals. So there are far more folk that deserve criticism than him see the current manager and most of the playing staff.

I’ve defended Cormack constantly over the last few years and I still say he’ll never get near Milne for utter ineptitude.

But

His football strategy and managerial appointments have all been a disaster. Doesn’t matter what he’s tried, everyone has been a flop.

The one constant through them all has been him, that’s no coincidence.

The football strategy has been his (project players etc) and its been a disaster.

Now they’ve inexplicably pivoted to an apparent strategy of signing mediocre SPL jobber journeymen. That’s gone well.

There’s no defending his handling of the football operation, absolutely none.

But he’s going nowhere as nobody’s buying him out.

There’s something deeply flawed and wrong with the culture in the club. There has to be for the club to underperform this badly for this long. Now, this issue goes way back before Cormack to Milne’s tenure, but Cormack has managed to do absolutely nothing to change it.

I do think Bevington was a genuinely high level looking appointment and I was pleasantly surprised by it so hopefully he can do something to help turn things round cause Cormack isn’t gonna do it…

13 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

He’s a total weirdo which doesn’t help

Maybe because I've been described as a weirdo, I have less of a gripe with him. Good to be a Charlatans song

4 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

You’d make a great politician. When I made this very point in another thread back in September your response was “Are they all his signings though? The point of the head coach set up is that recruitment is dealt with elsewhere.”

So is it his squad or not?

My point is actually still the same. I'll explain it.

He didn't go out and scout and sign 15 players, the recruitment team found the majority of these players. So no, I don't blame Robinson if Mahou can't kick his own arse.

However, he decided to overhaul the squad. He moved on Shinnie, Cameron, Keskinen, Jensen, Kjartansson, Mitov. There are players at the club in Devlin, Palaversa, Frame that don't kick a ball. Instead, he said "sign me more players". He wanted a new squad, he has got a new squad. If you're doing that then you need to have a plan in place, but he has spent the season constantly changing his mind what to do with them. It's that much of a mess that I actually think we were in a stronger position at the end of last season.

So yes, he has brought in 15 players, that's correct. No, the standard isn't all down to him. But while some just don't look good enough, some look like they could actually be pretty handy if better coached and playing in a system they catered to their strengths. Armstrong, Smith, Nisbet, Ronan in particular are all good players, but doing nothing under Robinson.

So yes. This is his squad. This is on him.

I’m 100% behind cormack. It’s the yank in me. He’s willing to spend money and take risks. He wants to be successful and will gamble, he’ll listen to feedback and try to hire those who can do their job.

Why aren’t man utd successful? Chelsea? Spurs? Newcastle? Why didn’t Liverpool win after klopp, they had it all. Why don’t they all win every year? Why can’t they all keep managers? All have a ton of money. It’s not easy.

If forming a football club structure was simple we’d have mastered it, as would many a club. So many clubs do things differently. How many teams win season after season, how many clubs sack managers. How many consistently successful managers are there? Not many.

Take Celtic, the money they have received in recent years, they should win the league by 20 or more every year. They shouldn’t really drop any points domestically. Even they have their struggles, their set up, their manager. They struggle, going backwards in europe it seems, it’s just a different struggle to us, but their fans aren’t happy either. Across the way at Mordor, go on a bad run and Mcinnes wouldn’t see the season out. It’s possible.

We’re failing right now but I credit cormack for not sticking with Mcinnes. He wanted more. Mcinnes staying and funding him would have been safe. But he wanted more, he saw that Mcinnes was limited. But more isn’t easy. It’s painful going through this but moving away from cormack, like moving away from Mcinnes, guarantees nothing.

Curious to start reading the new manager thread again. Prob should be warming that up.

7 hours ago, Mason89 said:

This is the first time since I started following them that I can genuinely say I don’t give a fuck about any of the players or management. I don’t like any of them.

100% this

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