Dunty

No, I don't. Does "get stuck in to them" mean we want every opposition player injured? It's a big game, he's trying to fire up his team. "Inciting violence" is just silly talk.

Sorry but that's just PC gone mad.

Fair play to you for continuing to entertain 100%AK even though he/she is clearly trolling. Would be interesting to see if Aberdeen could still get planning permission for Loirston if the houses are built before the stadium. That would still appear their only option if they can't build at Kingsford.

Didn't think we ever had any artists impressions for Kings Links. Would be interested to see them. Out of interest Tom, where do you stand on a potential stadium at Loirston should the one at Kingsford not go ahead?

The club's mistake with selling Loirston to the fans was they never went into much detail, even through the application stage. Their PR was poor. There was also no talk of a train station. It also didn't help that the club wasn't as successful at the time either on or off the pitch. Even so, I think it was around 50/50. The difference now is: - fans beginning to accept we can't rebuild Pittodrie - more detailed plans. We've actually got images of inside the stadium, the facilities and specifics it will have (stadium bar, fanzone, musuem, etc). They didn't actually have that in the Loirston plans, just a seating capacity and the outside shell. - the club's PR has been better. Yule doing most of the talking rather than Milne. Players and manager coming out in support. A lot of people say Loirston would be a disaster but don't really understand why. If you pushed them on it they would probably come to realise it's just as good if not better than Kingsford.

Agreed. Thought the objections (from Aberdeen fans) were over exaggerated at Loirston, folk saying they would never go back. Is the site not next to the AWPR too, and like you said is close to the train line? We could easily make it work.

Is that not from 2012? This is from the updated LDP, which was released just two months ago. 2.25 Loirston is considered suitable for a new football stadium and a site has been identified to accommodate this as part of a mixed use area. The site can also accommodate 1,500 homes and 11 hectares of employment land. It benefits from being close to a major junction with the AWPR. A new City South Academy is planned for Calder Park.

In the updated local development plan it still has Loirston as a site available to build the stadium on. That and Kings Links are the two areas earmarked in the LDP.

That was kinda my point. The training ground is a priority and a necessity. Should the stadium fall through (and by this I mean when all appeals have been exhausted) then surely plan B is to either re-submit at Kingsford with just the training ground, or look to the land at Loirston where they have permission to build. Or, are they saying that if Kingsford fails then everything is off the table until they find land to build a dual facility, because that would be an act of stupidity as it could take years. If there is no land for it, then plan B has to be to split the two facilities and push ahead with the training ground. The club must have some sort of contingency plan. Without the training ground the club will lose McInnes and many of the players.

George Yule stating they have no plan B, but that must be the club simply trying to put more pressure on the council. I'm convinced the club will have a plan B in place.

If this was true, why are you so critical of George Yule? Yule was the chairman of Aberdeen sports village, so it wouldn't have been him turning down a link-up there.

They're planning to move stadium. They're building a new railway station and they are trying to secure land next to it. They've accepted that relying on buses is not a suitable transport strategy should they wish to grow the stadium. Aberdeen are trying to do the opposite.