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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #320 on: June 05, 2019, 09:54:31 PM »
Not saying I'm excited either but i see him and Cosgrove battling it out for the starting number 9. Don't see Main as a set back up. Could also see Cosgrove sold and Main is the starter.

Which is precisely the scenario I'm envisaging...possibly even hoping....will happen. Cosgrove's stock I really don't think will get any higher. £1million offer.....take the money and run. And do the same again, maybe not quite as cheap as £20k...maybe a young loon with potential for £200k or so and take the punt that he will make us five times that eventually.

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #321 on: June 05, 2019, 11:04:18 PM »
£1m for cosgrove thats as fucking deluded as the £10m for morelos
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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #322 on: June 06, 2019, 04:41:31 AM »
Can’t honestly say I’ve seen a lot of Curtis Main so watched some YouTube highlights. Most of his goals, including penalties, are very Adam Rooney-like, penalty box poacher right place right time type of thing. If he has Rooney’s success I’ll take that, but the key is the service, something I mentioned earlier, which was piss poor for much of the last year or two.

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #323 on: June 06, 2019, 09:08:57 AM »
£1m for cosgrove thats as fucking deluded as the £10m for morelos
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And your valuation of him would be Einstein?

He's just outscored any player from the league champions (admittedly I don't think that will happen again). He's contracted for another 4 years. Therefore we hold all the cards. A club comes calling ( and there's rumoured interest from a Championship club) we can ask what we want...

Tell me exactly why £1millon is unreasonable?

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #324 on: June 06, 2019, 09:17:33 AM »
Agreed TC, it always boggles my mind how little football fans understand how transfers actually work. Only time a player will go for less than the value of the remainder of the contract is if the club is wanting them off the books. 
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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #325 on: June 06, 2019, 09:20:33 AM »
Tell me exactly why £1millon is unreasonable?

I don't think he's worth it. He's in that middle region that makes him not really suited to the English game. Not as strong as a Stockley type, not as mobile as a Magennis type and not good enough to play high end championship where his attributes (at a better level) might suit. He's not as good as likes of Steven Fletcher for example. That said, he has the potential to get there and could probably get to the level of a Steven McLean or Lee Miller in their prime. Despite the fact that he scored 20 goals this season, I don't really see him as a finisher. He doesn't ping the ball, he uses more of a swinging leg approach, which makes him that little bit slow to be a poacher. Transfermarkt has him valued at £225K, I would think that somewhere in the region of £500K with some well structured add-ons would be appropriate given length of contract. He could end up earning us close to £1M but I don't see any clubs risking that sort of straight outlay on him at the moment. He's a hard worker, and with a bit more intelligence and maturity he could easily increase his value again this season.

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #326 on: June 06, 2019, 09:22:03 AM »
Agreed TC, it always boggles my mind how little football fans understand how transfers actually work. Only time a player will go for less than the value of the remainder of the contract is if the club is wanting them off the books.

The remainder of his contract (3 years?) will be worth about £200K probably.

Edit: apologies, miscalculated, probably £350K

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #327 on: June 06, 2019, 09:28:38 AM »
Hopefully Main's addition is acceptance from the manager that Stevie May is no longer required. Send May to St Mirren or Hamilton etc... for a season long loan, in which he can be recalled if the need arises, get him regular games in his natural position and hopefully finds him his confidence back. Maybe he can still have a part to play but on the basis of that season there, he's not cut out just yet.

Cosgrove, on the other hand, whilst he was sluggish in terms of his goals at the beginning, he was still our best option up front, he was causing far more problems than May was and he at least started scoring, his goal return shouldn't be underestimated, it will be very interesting to see if he can maintain double figures moving forward, though.

I am more than happy to afford Curtis Main the opportunity. His signing seemed to go down a hell of a lot worse than Taylor's re-signing did. The negativity has been unreal, I absolutely get that his career total is rather underwhelming, but maybe we're going to go with 2 up front now, or maybe he'll suit us and McInnes's tactics better, who knows. I have a feeling he'll do okay to be honest. 
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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #328 on: June 06, 2019, 09:43:26 AM »
if sam scores another 20 plus goals the £1m valuation may seem less hyperbolic
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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #329 on: June 06, 2019, 01:40:09 PM »
Would anybody have gone with Kris Doolan over Curtis Main given length of contract the latter was given??

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #330 on: June 06, 2019, 02:14:48 PM »
Would anybody have gone with Kris Doolan over Curtis Main given length of contract the latter was given??

Nope. Doolan isn't good enough. A good finisher but slow as hell. A significantly poorer version of Rooney but in the same mould. Main is far more of a battering ram as well as capable of finishing if opportunity arises.

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #331 on: June 06, 2019, 03:03:49 PM »
Main's strength is his ability to bull defences. Defenders will hate playing against him. I've seen him bully the Huns and us something hellish. He's never had an amazing goal tally but I'm hopeful that he'll score more if we can get him some service. He might be an underwhelming signing but it's a damn sight better than Gash.

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #332 on: June 06, 2019, 03:39:22 PM »
Presumably main will play alongside cosgrove winning the ball and laying it off to him then? To be fair May doesnt offer us that option. I would have liked to see someone who could play up front on there own coming in.

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #333 on: June 06, 2019, 04:23:36 PM »
Presumably main will play alongside cosgrove winning the ball and laying it off to him then? To be fair May doesnt offer us that option. I would have liked to see someone who could play up front on there own coming in.

I think Cosgrova can play lone striker, he just needs the midfield behind him to do so.

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #334 on: June 06, 2019, 06:18:27 PM »
need to play ball into mains feet then hes 5,11
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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #335 on: June 06, 2019, 07:49:30 PM »
If we sell big Sam, i would expect £1/2m -£1m from the Championship, is he worth it ? course not, crazy money down there :eek:

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #336 on: June 06, 2019, 08:53:54 PM »
I'd heard he viewed s himself as a winger?
No idea if it's true mind you
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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #337 on: June 06, 2019, 10:20:59 PM »
I'd heard he viewed s himself as a winger?
No idea if it's true mind you

With his goal scoring record it would perhaps be better if he has been bought in to play on the wing. I thought he was taller then 5'11 it must be because of his physicality.

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #338 on: June 07, 2019, 06:46:31 AM »
Happy enough with the lad Hedges signing for us, a young player who may be hungry for a chance to prove himself, the type of player we should be signing, hopefully it all works out well and happy to risk on guys like these providing they have been properly scouted.

Taylor and Main are a little bit worrying if that is the standard of player we are bringing in and I'm afraid they are more than just squad fillers. Taylor is not the worst defender we have ever had, not by a long way, but you just feel we should have moved on from him, he's not like a McGinn, who had something to offer by returning and offers that something extra on the field when required. Main I see as nothing more than a donkey and don't rate at all, yes he can bully defenders, but is a poor footballer and doesn't improves us other than being and tells me that I should prepare for another season of eye bleeding football.

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Re: Season 2019/2020 Rebuilding
« Reply #339 on: June 08, 2019, 01:23:36 PM »
Definitely not whelmed or above by our signings so far.  Time will tell, but there's nothing in any of these players' provenance that excites the mind.