Crazy American Politics

[Mason89]

Could you possibly be more specific about LAs woke leadership and agenda? Who was doing what exactly? the reason I ask, is that every time somebody uses the term 'woke', they never go on to explain what it is that's annoying them. Normally its basic human rights but by all means, set me right

[OrlandoDon]

22 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

Could you possibly be more specific about LAs woke leadership and agenda? Who was doing what exactly? the reason I ask, is that every time somebody uses the term 'woke', they never go on to explain what it is that's annoying them. Normally its basic human rights but by all means, set me right

Includes, but not exclusive to, Dei agenda, I was all in and attended my trainings, was good on paper but over time it went way too far, witnessed how divisive it became and the hostility created, almost like segregation, equality vs equity, equity hiring, optics hiring, quotas hiring versus ability hiring, soft stance on crime, stance on trans rights, particularly transition surgeries for minors, rights of parents and schools not being required to communicate with parents over their child regarding many things including gender/transition, homeless policies and rights, immigration rights, high taxes and funding of homeless, illegal immigrants and tax funding etc., the overuse of the term racist, throw in cancel culture and feelings prioritized over facts too…..

Obviously woke was initially racial and social injustice and there is/was so much I agree with, but then it went too far and also became injustice for all, maybe a victim mentality, plus including govt telling you what was right. 100% agree with you in that it should be basic human rights, but believe it has gone way past that, became very political, and obvious overreach. And there’s obviously debate on what human rights are, the illegal immigration situation here being a good and complex example.

I witnessed and experienced a lot in California. Obviously I carry the baggage of losing my job (and my life as I knew it) and my kids being kicked out of school for refusing the covid vaccine, I’d maybe even potentially add that to the woke agenda and overreach. if you look at the high and increasing cost of living in California, extremely high and increasing taxes, the crime, the possibility of a wealth tax, the people leaving California, it’s not sustainable. Go and visit San Francisco or Los Angeles and you’ll see for yourself, the woke agenda being a big factor in my opinion. I loved LA and lived there for 17 years, but like the many others who are leaving, businesses leaving California, it doesn’t work there any more and it is a state in decline.

just answering your question, not debating you. We don’t see eye to eye, I’m not here to try to convince you or anyone. Much like with rico, you asked me a question, I answered. I also think we are maybe 10 years ahead of you culturally, more or less depending on whether it’s city or rural, not saying better or advanced, just that what happens here makes it way to you over time.

[Bukta Bertie]

3 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Includes, but not exclusive to, Dei agenda, I was all in and attended my trainings, was good on paper but over time it went way too far, witnessed how divisive it became and the hostility created, almost like segregation, equality vs equity, equity hiring, optics hiring, quotas hiring versus ability hiring, soft stance on crime, stance on trans rights, particularly transition surgeries for minors, rights of parents and schools not being required to communicate with parents over their child regarding many things including gender/transition, homeless policies and rights, immigration rights, high taxes and funding of homeless, illegal immigrants and tax funding etc., the overuse of the term racist, throw in cancel culture and feelings prioritized over facts too…..

Obviously woke was initially racial and social injustice and there is/was so much I agree with, but then it went too far and also became injustice for all, maybe a victim mentality, plus including govt telling you what was right. 100% agree with you in that it should be basic human rights, but believe it has gone way past that, became very political, and obvious overreach. And there’s obviously debate on what human rights are, the illegal immigration situation here being a good and complex example.

I witnessed and experienced a lot in California. Obviously I carry the baggage of losing my job (and my life as I knew it) and my kids being kicked out of school for refusing the covid vaccine, I’d maybe even potentially add that to the woke agenda and overreach. if you look at the high and increasing cost of living in California, extremely high and increasing taxes, the crime, the possibility of a wealth tax, the people leaving California, it’s not sustainable. Go and visit San Francisco or Los Angeles and you’ll see for yourself, the woke agenda being a big factor in my opinion. I loved LA and lived there for 17 years, but like the many others who are leaving, businesses leaving California, it doesn’t work there any more and it is a state in decline.

just answering your question, not debating you. We don’t see eye to eye, I’m not here to try to convince you or anyone. Much like with rico, you asked me a question, I answered. I also think we are maybe 10 years ahead of you culturally, more or less depending on whether it’s city or rural, not saying better or advanced, just that what happens here makes it way to you over time.

Best post I've read on here thus far. 'Drop the mike' quality.

Did you live in Leytonstone in the 80s by any chance. No stranger to a scrap and strumming a guitar?