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Sale of Rangers FC 'will go ahead by mid-January'

 

Published Date: 05 December 2010

By Tom English

 

A DEAL to sell Rangers Football Club to Scots venture capitalist Craig Whyte will go though by the middle of January, according to senior sources at the club.

Whyte, 39, met with Ibrox chairman Alastair Johnston in Glasgow to discuss the purchase of Sir David Murray's shareholding in the club.

 

The proposed £33 million deal will wipe out the existing debt that has stymied Rangers in the transfer market for two years.

 

Yesterday, sources at Rangers said the deal, barring any late hitches, could be completed before Christmas but it is more likely that it will be done by the middle of January. "We can't say with 100 per cent certainty, but Whyte has the money and is very convincing. We think the deal will happen," said the source.

 

Murray has presided over Rangers for 22 years but has been keen to sell his stake for some time.

 

Hopefully the debt thing is not true as that is what is holding them back at the moment.

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That doesn't mention the change from 2 points for a win to 3 points which was a major factor in the old firm dominance as well.

 

If Rangers were no longer a  team then the fan base would perhaps still go to games albeit a local team. You never know Partick Thistle might gain the odd fuckwit.

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That doesn't mention the change from 2 points for a win to 3 points which was a major factor in the old firm dominance as well.

 

If Rangers were no longer a  team then the fan base would perhaps still go to games albeit a local team. You never know Partick Thistle might gain the odd fuckwit.

 

The St Mirren chairman has clocked onto this. Have seen comments from him that they would hope to get increased attendances if the huns didn't exist. Hopefully more chairmen realise this too.

The St Mirren chairman has clocked onto this. Have seen comments from him that they would hope to get increased attendances if the huns didn't exist. Hopefully more chairmen realise this too.

 

Exactly when you consider the amount of huns there are in every town all over Scotland. They aren't just going to stop watching football. granted a lot of them will probably follow an English team but there will be some who just need that football fix. Makes sense to support your local team. Apart from Celtic of course considering where they play is quite a big hun area.

The arguments about the Europa League are all well and fine, but with more qualifiers to play and only a couple of teams a year in Europe, where and how do the rest make up the shortfall? 

 

There's been no mention of the quality of the football and how appalling it is, the admission prices being ridiculously overblown as it is... these things are the over-riding factors on whether folk go to the football now and they're in danger of getting worse and that's the case whether the vermin live or die.

 

If the huns are in the league or not, get the admission prices down and get more people through the gates.

The arguments about the Europa League are all well and fine, but with more qualifiers to play and only a couple of teams a year in Europe, where and how do the rest make up the shortfall? 

 

There's been no mention of the quality of the football and how appalling it is, the admission prices being ridiculously overblown as it is... these things are the over-riding factors on whether folk go to the football now and they're in danger of getting worse and that's the case whether the vermin live or die.

 

If the huns are in the league or not, get the admission prices down and get more people through the gates.

 

It all comes down to the prices at the gate.  It's greed that has driven them up (mainly greed by the old firm because they usually fill their stadiums). Clubs must see that a reduced price will get more through the gates.

The old firm seem to set the bar though for gate prices throughout the league. You can't have one team charge £20 odd  when eveyone else has reduced the price to say £10 so the price has to stay around about the same throughout the league. In saying that Hearts did didn't they?

The arguments about the Europa League are all well and fine, but with more qualifiers to play and only a couple of teams a year in Europe, where and how do the rest make up the shortfall? 

 

Well there will be a wider mix of Scottish teams getting into Europe, so more clubs will get chances in these games. The amount of qualifiers teams have to play isn't going to go up because Rangers are no longer there. They have as much a negative impact on our coefficient these days as Gretna or Queen of the South had.

 

For the ones who don't finish in European spots a Hibs, Dundee United or Aberdeen team in Europe, or pushing for European places, can take thousands of fans to their grounds instead of the 4000 huns. A cup and/or European run puts a good feeling right through the support with more fans turning up to both home and away fixtures.

 

The interest from TV companies to show non-old Firm Scottish Football on TV is clearly there. The next 4 Aberdeen games are on Sky/ESPN and 3 of the 4 Scottish Cup Quarter Finals are on BBC/Sky. Only 2 out of these 6 matches involve Celtic. None involve Rangers. Yep the TV money will reduce without Old Firm matches, but who is to say the viewing figures for the other matches won't increase when people see how competitive the league is (outside Celtic for a few years) and tune in to see clubs who are challenging for European spots.

 

Ticket prices are a problem in Scottish Football. But as you mentioned that is a problem whether Rangers exist or not.

Well there will be a wider mix of Scottish teams getting into Europe, so more clubs will get chances in these games.

 

Who is to say that one or two teams get a good run, make a few bob and spend it wisely so it's the same side/s making the impact in Europe each year?  What then for the rest? It's an entirely plausible scenario.

 

Personally, I think the game is so low at the minute that there isn't a chance in hell of any of our teams making any kind of impact in Europe.  Hopefully that changes of course.

 

 

The interest from TV companies to show non-old Firm Scottish Football on TV is clearly there. The next 4 Aberdeen games are on Sky/ESPN and 3 of the 4 Scottish Cup Quarter Finals are on BBC/Sky. Only 2 out of these 6 matches involve Celtic. None involve Rangers. Yep the TV money will reduce without Old Firm matches, but who is to say the viewing figures for the other matches won't increase when people see how competitive the league is (outside Celtic for a few years) and tune in to see clubs who are challenging for European spots.

 

Ticket prices are a problem in Scottish Football. But as you mentioned that is a problem whether Rangers exist or not.

 

They were contracted to show a set amount of games outwith the final itself. They're not doing it because they think Motherwell v Aberdeen or Hearts v St Mirren is going to make them a lot of cash.  Lets face it, Sky would have been beelin' that the huns were knocked out. There goes the chance of their dream final/semi/quarter.

 

It's not enough for the league to be competitive as i said the other day. There has to be quality. The Championship is competitive, they say the most competitive in Europe. Have you ever watched it? It's not great. Far from it and I generally turn the channel if it's on.  Just because a league is competitive doesn't mean it is automatically attractive to outsiders. Maybe some would tune in, but I'd be amazed if it was enough to get our clubs a decent wedge.

1629: RANGERS PRESS CONFERENCE - LIVE

 

Rangers administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse on Rangers situation: "Daniel [Cousin] was at the training ground this morning as I addressed the players. We can't say for sure at the moment if that will go through - that's still under review."

 

1627: RANGERS PRESS CONFERENCE - LIVE

 

Rangers administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse on Rangers situation: "We had a good productive meeting with Ally and we will work together to find a solution. So from that you can assume Ally will be involved in any changes in the playing staff."

 

1626: RANGERS PRESS CONFERENCE - LIVE

 

Rangers administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse on Rangers situation: "We believe the debt to be £24m but some of it is deferred. We're confident in what we've seen that we can achieve a succesful result and that Rangers will continue as a football club."

 

1621: RANGERS PRESS CONFERENCE - LIVE

 

Rangers administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse on Rangers situation: "When the club was taken over it had a substantial contingent debt - as matters have unfolded the levels of losses have not been funded by the normal course of trade. The insolvency of the club has resulted from those losses of funding."

 

1617: RANGERS PRESS CONFERENCE - LIVE

 

Rangers administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse on Rangers situation: "The reason it [tax] hasn't been paid is that it hasn't been sent. They were deductions that were made at source that were fundamentally used to fund the club. It's something we need to look into. We have to carry out a full investigation into what has happened but what we can say is that the business has been loss-making."

 

1613: RANGERS PRESS CONFERENCE - LIVE

 

Rangers administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse on Rangers situation: "We have a statutory right to act on the behalf of the creditors. We would have liked to have found a solution before going down the administration route. We hope a CVA can be achieved. In layman's terms we are hopeful that a settlement can be reached. We are wholly confident that Rangers will continue as a football club and will not face liquidation."

 

1611: RANGERS PRESS CONFERENCE - LIVE

 

Rangers administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse on Rangers situation: "The immediate task was to get the weekend's game to happen. This morning I spoke to Ally McCoist. It will be next week at least before anything is decided in this area. We will be making the February payroll obligations in the normal manner and in full."

 

1608: RANGERS PRESS CONFERENCE - LIVE

 

Rangers administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse on Rangers situation: "We have a statutory right to act on the beahlf of the creditors. It will be conducted to the highest professional standards. I would like to pay tribute to the fans, players and staff of Rangers Football Club. There will be a full account of the club's financial affairs and we will publish that report."

 

1605: RANGERS PRESS CONFERENCE - LIVE

 

Rangers administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse on Rangers situation: "It's a very early stage of the process. Craig Whyte is not associated in any way with Duff and Phelps."

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The £24m from ticketus has not went through the accounts. Therefore it cannot have been used to pay Whyte his £18m and become a secured creditor.

Alex Salmond is an appalling cunt.

Alex Salmond is an appalling cunt.

 

Yes.

Alex Salmond is an appalling cunt.

 

Aye, because out of this whole debacle, it is Alex Salmond who is the to be most reviled. ::):hammer:

Aye, because out of this whole debacle, it is Alex Salmond who is the to be most reviled. ::):hammer:

 

Doesn't mean he isn't one though, does it?

Aye, because out of this whole debacle, it is Alex Salmond who is the to be most reviled. ::):hammer:

 

Don't be so facile. There's plenty to revile and laugh about but to suggest the 1st Minister should begin with saying we all depend on the survival of these cunts and that they should get a pass of some sort is disgraceful.

 

But hey, let's no criticise sainted Alex eh? I guess you support his view here?

Don't be so facile. There's plenty to revile and laugh about but to suggest the 1st Minister should begin with saying we all depend on the survival of these cunts and that they should get a pass of some sort is disgraceful.

 

But hey, let's no criticise sainted Alex eh? I guess you support his view here?

 

His "Vibrant football club" bollocks really took things too far.  So the sectarian issues that have faced the city have fuck all to do with this "vibrant football club"?  Fuck off Salmond, slimey cunt.

Doesn't mean he isn't one though, does it?

 

Compared to other politicians like say,

Alistair Darling

Gordon Brown

Micheal Forsythe

Tony Blair

George Osbourne

David Cameron

George Foulkes

Ian Davidson

 

Compared to the above list of scum bags, what has Alex Salmond done to incur your displeasure? Is it the fact that the SNP are actually delivering on manifesto promises and have a cogent vision and confident front bench, or would you prefer the country to be run by gangsters like Labour led Glasgow City Council?

Compared to other politicians like say,

Alistair Darling

Gordon Brown

Micheal Forsythe

Tony Blair

George Osbourne

David Cameron

George Foulkes

Ian Davidson

 

Compared to the above list of scum bags, what has Alex Salmond done to incur your displeasure? Is it the fact that the SNP are actually delivering on manifesto promises and have a cogent vision and confident front bench, or would you prefer the country to be run by gangsters like Labour led Glasgow City Council?

 

Deary me. I think we'll leave that one there.

let's not get started on that annoying cow nicola sturgeon.

Alex Salmond is an appalling cunt.

 

It's not just him, what's her name Curran and Callmedave among others have come out with an amazing amount of bullshit.  Never be surprised at how low a politician will stoop in the hope of gathering a vote or two.

 

The worst thing is that these cunts seem to be advocating letting rfc off with their massive tax bill.  I'll remember that next time I see them in Parliament attacking disabled folk for claiming benefits. Twats

Deary me. I think we'll leave that one there.

 

Jesus would indeed have wept BB.

Let's assume that the Huns get voted back in - doesn't that set a precedent for all SPL clubs?

If they need to be they will and it should. But it won't.

I dunno about this.  Its going to only take two clubs to vote against it for them to be screwed.  If Mad Vlad is still in charge i reckon thats one vote against straight away, especially as they are getting screwed by the huns to a tune of a mill

Yet more evidence that Salmond is a complete Muppet....  :finger: we don't need the Minks or the Huns - in fact Scottish Football would be a better place without the bigot brothers  :thumbsup:

 

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