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Dundee United v Aberdeen

On Saturday, the Dons go to the shithole that is Tannadice to take on the club that everyone loves to hate. It kicks off at 3 pm.

I can't see us winning this one, so I fancy a 2-2 draw.

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Still drying out from yesterday. Disappointed. Thought we did quite well at times. Need to be much better and for me Wednesday is a must win if only to instil a bit of confidence for the semi. I really fear the worst at that especially if that defence isn't sorted out.

Watching Milne I can understand the requests for Gocic. Milne is not suited to SPL football. Devlin might be short but he would put anything in the way of a strike at goal. Milne looks like he shuts his eyes and at the St.Johnstone penalty he looked like Daphne Broon seeing a moose.

Sorely missed Donsdaft formerly of this parish would have had suitable hyperbole.

9 minutes ago, DonUnder said:

Watching Milne I can understand the requests for Gocic. Milne is not suited to SPL football. Devlin might be short but he would put anything in the way of a strike at goal. Milne looks like he shuts his eyes and at the St.Johnstone penalty he looked like Daphne Broon seeing a moose.

Sorely missed Donsdaft formerly of this parish would have had suitable hyperbole.

Gogic is horse though, and has probably been as responsible for his team's goals conceded as Milne this season. Milne just needs to develop his aggression, it'll probably come, he's still young. I would say the allowed goal yesterday was very good striker play, but the disallowed goal was classic Milne. He shouldn't be playing as part of a four unless at fullback, and in fairness to Robinson, he seems to know this. I guess we just have to cope with it whilst injuries dictate.

Sore one to lose that. There was plenty to like about the performance basically up until we equalised, after that we just seemed to stop doing everything we had been good at doing and handed utd the points. Had the fear the moment I saw Knoester was out and whilst his replacement did ok I don't think we lose that if he played. 1st goal is a 2 deflection freak that is just bad luck, these things happen and I thought we responded really well to that 2bf, but goals two and 3 are very avoidable. Caddens focus is too much on being physical and not enough on the actual flight of the ball and the third we are just wide open.

There were some positives. Ronan actually imposed himself on the game at times, Nisbet and Mouloua showed a few wee signs of developing a partnership and overall the times we took the game to Utd we were causing them problems. I'm more frustrated than deflated at this moment in time 2bh

7 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Gogic is horse though, and has probably been as responsible for his team's goals conceded as Milne this season. Milne just needs to develop his aggression, it'll probably come, he's still young. I would say the allowed goal yesterday was very good striker play, but the disallowed goal was classic Milne. He shouldn't be playing as part of a four unless at fullback, and in fairness to Robinson, he seems to know this. I guess we just have to cope with it whilst injuries dictate.

There's been a few fluff pieces about Tobers recently so hopefully he will be back soon and we can hopefully see how good a CB he actually is.

11 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Gogic is horse though, and has probably been as responsible for his team's goals conceded as Milne this season. Milne just needs to develop his aggression, it'll probably come, he's still young. I would say the allowed goal yesterday was very good striker play, but the disallowed goal was classic Milne. He shouldn't be playing as part of a four unless at fullback, and in fairness to Robinson, he seems to know this. I guess we just have to cope with it whilst injuries dictate.

He's 23 might want to get on with that. But yes Gocic is horse wasn't suggesting him just think Scottish centre halves should look like they belong in the "in court today" section of the paper

Rather than deliver them.

20 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Gogic is horse though, and has probably been as responsible for his team's goals conceded as Milne this season. Milne just needs to develop his aggression, it'll probably come, he's still young. I would say the allowed goal yesterday was very good striker play, but the disallowed goal was classic Milne. He shouldn't be playing as part of a four unless at fullback, and in fairness to Robinson, he seems to know this. I guess we just have to cope with it whilst injuries dictate.

I have to ask, how pray tell do you “develop aggression”?

Its an innate individual characteristic, you’ve either got it or you don’t - and Milne don’t got it, along with myriad other flaws that mean he’s miles off the level for this league.

I can’t think of a single case of a player who started out as a big girls blouse who turned into a hard man.

Happy to be corrected of course…

Russell Anderson and Andy Considine fit the bill I’d say.

Don’t agree. Neither were ever big girls blouses.

Russell was never a traditional hard man, but he developed as a footballer as he had the technical aspects to his game - timing headers / tackles / read the game well etc.

Led by example rather than aggression. Wasn’t scared to stick his head in where it hurts though.

Considine wasn’t as good a player as Russell, but was still good in the air and also not scared to get stuck in...

Anderson developed into a good leader but it took him a few seasons

1 hour ago, The.Moog said:

Don’t agree. Neither were ever big girls blouses.

Russell was never a traditional hard man, but he developed as a footballer as he had the technical aspects to his game - timing headers / tackles / read the game well etc.

Led by example rather than aggression. Wasn’t scared to stick his head in where it hurts though.

Considine wasn’t as good a player as Russell, but was still good in the air and also not scared to get stuck in...

Considine was weak as pish for his first couple of seasons, at least. He was still being called weak about six years into his Dons career despite having developed massively after the first couple. He was regularly knocked off the ball by smaller opponents and giving away stupid penalties because he wasn't aggressive enough in the initial challenge and was just generally non committal. Anderson was weak at right back, but that experience set him up really nicely for full time adult fitba. Guys like McKenna and Graham for the scum of the dee are in the minority, players that come in with an aggression of a manny. I'd argue that Knoester appears to be a lot more aggressive this season than previously. I think a lot of it comes with just playing regularly against the same type of players and knowing that you have the strength to go and attack the ball. Milne still looks a little on the skinny side, with weak legs, a bit like Diamond did. A bit of work down the gym and he might begin to believe in his own strength. He should be spending three hours a day trying to win headers against Olusanya, that'd sort him out. I'm saying aggression here, but really I'm talking about confidence. Confidence that you can go and attack the ball and win it. The best part about Considine's development, was that when he gained the confidence in the challenge, it also massively improved his concentration. He lost those jitters that Milne still has. That didn't make Considine a world beater, just the best he could be - he reached his ceiling with us. In my opinion, we're not seeing anywhere close to the best Milne can be. Considine and Anderson both had that learning at fullback, and that's perhaps something Milne could get. He'd get huge confidence from winning headers in the air against the smaller winger, but still at mannies level fitba. I don't know if that's an option available unfortunately.

7 hours ago, The.Moog said:

Don’t agree. Neither were ever big girls blouses.

Russell was never a traditional hard man, but he developed as a footballer as he had the technical aspects to his game - timing headers / tackles / read the game well etc.

Led by example rather than aggression. Wasn’t scared to stick his head in where it hurts though.

Considine wasn’t as good a player as Russell, but was still good in the air and also not scared to get stuck in...

Russell was a great player for us but he was never very physical, in fact when he came up against a physical CF (for instance Kris Boyd) he didn't cope very well. Probably not a welcome observation but it was what it was.

12 hours ago, KGB said:

Russell was a great player for us but he was never very physical, in fact when he came up against a physical CF (for instance Kris Boyd) he didn't cope very well. Probably not a welcome observation but it was what it was.

Thon big lump at Hearts gave him the runaround every time, I forget the name.

One thing that is becoming clearer with every game that goes by.
Our new Hannibal Lecter keeper is never ever going to be an upgrade on Mitov not by any stretch of the imagination.

22 hours ago, RicoS321 said:

Considine was weak as pish for his first couple of seasons, at least. He was still being called weak about six years into his Dons career despite having developed massively after the first couple. He was regularly knocked off the ball by smaller opponents and giving away stupid penalties because he wasn't aggressive enough in the initial challenge and was just generally non committal. Anderson was weak at right back, but that experience set him up really nicely for full time adult fitba. Guys like McKenna and Graham for the scum of the dee are in the minority, players that come in with an aggression of a manny. I'd argue that Knoester appears to be a lot more aggressive this season than previously. I think a lot of it comes with just playing regularly against the same type of players and knowing that you have the strength to go and attack the ball. Milne still looks a little on the skinny side, with weak legs, a bit like Diamond did. A bit of work down the gym and he might begin to believe in his own strength. He should be spending three hours a day trying to win headers against Olusanya, that'd sort him out. I'm saying aggression here, but really I'm talking about confidence. Confidence that you can go and attack the ball and win it. The best part about Considine's development, was that when he gained the confidence in the challenge, it also massively improved his concentration. He lost those jitters that Milne still has. That didn't make Considine a world beater, just the best he could be - he reached his ceiling with us. In my opinion, we're not seeing anywhere close to the best Milne can be. Considine and Anderson both had that learning at fullback, and that's perhaps something Milne could get. He'd get huge confidence from winning headers in the air against the smaller winger, but still at mannies level fitba. I don't know if that's an option available unfortunately.

Fair comments Rico min.

I agree confidence is a big issue with Milne, & its certainly not going to improve with him getting rag dolled or making another stupid mistake every week.

He certainly might benefit from beefing up a bit, that’s up to him to want to do it though.

The early Anderson & Considine comments are fair, but they were a lot younger than Milne is when they were “learning the trade” & developed physically from the skinny teenagers they started out as.

Milne is 23, gonna be 24 early next year. He’s not a kid anymore & should have developed physically by now.

I’d genuinely be delighted if he proved me wrong as it would benefit the club greatly, and I’d also be chuffed for the lad, but he lacks what’s needed in so many areas I just can’t see it unfortunately…

On 25/10/2026 at 13:29, The.Moog said:

I have to ask, how pray tell do you “develop aggression”?

Ironically, watching Milne defend usually does it for me.

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