Edinburghdon

Convincing win without ever really getting out of first gear. Worrying that we take our foot off the gas after around 30 mins but still a great result. For spells we knocked it around very well indeed.

McKenna and Arnason were solid, must keep their places for a while, Shinnie was excellent at left back, O’Connor solid in midfield too. McLean wasteful in possession but tried more defensively than I’ve seen in a while, needs to cut out the Hollywood balls that rarely work though. In fact his passing in general was dire...

So much for Rooney not contributing either,  thought he was excellent throughout, need to give him and may a decent run together as there’s the making of a really strong partnership there.

Level on points with Celtic without ever really hitting the standard we seem to be capable of, I’ll take that 

Last time I ever use them

Well if it's permanently Suspended then aye you're probably right 

He's got a point though, it's well known ISIS get the P&J delivered, all this press coverage just makes us an obvious target.

Caught a fair chunk of the afternoon session and barring the odd well made point it was the same irrelevant pish trotted out by the NKS lot. Christ that heather brock woman didn't half give a masterclass in coming across as an entitled condescending know it all, her mate wasn't much better.

I've a really bad feeling the council will fail to see the big picture here and buy into the nimbyism

Apparently the publicity for the stadium coupled with the stadium being beside two pipelines (which neither pipeline owner has expressed concerns over) has increased the risk of terrorist attacks on the stadium.

Same goes for the fans walking to the stadium being at risk of vehicle based terrorist attack.

What. A. Fucking. Tube.

I'm not sure how these things normally work (and I'm surprised and impressed its being live streamed) but dear god it doesnt half come across as being run by amateurs. Hardly surprised given its ACC but still.

The KCC blokes been just as bad, scaremongering about the dangers involved with a large number of people using stairs or being able to walk along a footpath without spilling on to a road.

If that's the arguments then we've reached new levels of madness, if folk cant be trusted to walk along a footpath or use a footbridge then there's no hope.

A stuttering mess of a response from Milne 

Aye he didn't come across too well, the other 3 all spoke very well though.

Had to nip out but assuming the westhill council wifey is talking shire going on twitter. Has she really claimed the community use the existing empty fields? 

Shuttles have proven in the past to not work, hence the reason there are very few from existing park and ride sites to Pittodrie on a Saturday.

The park and rides towards pittodrie are underused admittedly but they do work.  I'm sure shuttles elsewhere have been discussed in this thread too and examples given on where they work, not got time to dig that far back though.

The bottleneck on King St is a problem, but it's an existing problem.

I think thats the whole point, its fine saying its an existing problem now, but as soon as plans are lodged for this kingslinks site its no longer seen as an existing problem, just because its tolerated now doesnt mean it'd be seen as acceptable for a new development.

It's 10 hectares - the stadium side of Kingsford is 12.5 hectares and the awkward shape appears to limit it.

 

I don't know all the would be answers to congestion issues leaving. Controlled car parks, better traffic organisation and more buses would aid that I'd think. The AWPR have some impact freeing up roads too?

 

I honestly can't remember one time in my childhood where I paid to use a community facility or booked anything. Turned up and played football and used changing rooms and whatever.

 

Not saying it wouldn't benefit people in general and have some organised stuff on but it's just not the bored kids and louts turning up in the middle of their community that I associate the thing with. 

Where's this 10 hectare site? What businesses does it involve buying or relocating? Do you think it's possible to cram the same size stadium, the same size car park into a space that's quite a bit smaller? How does the AWPR aid the bottleneck from traffic leaving the site via king street? (I'm guessing it probably won't)

Really not sure what you're basing the perception of community facilities as being constantly available at the drop of a hat and free but to be honest I reckon it's nonsense sorry, can't believe anyone would reasonably expect that, just isn't reasonable or practical.

It's bollocks though really, isn't it? Regardless of stadium location that is, and not on an anti-Kingsford point, the club are building this facility for themselves not the community. I have no issue with that like, that's entirely the point. However, as far as I'm aware, nobody in Westhill is really arguing against the training pitches. It's the accompanying stadium that's the issue.

Of course the club are building it for themselves, quite rightly too but the fact is there are some community facilities, and the benefits of those facilities have been pretty much ignored or downplayed, that's all I was saying. Hopefully those facilities will remain wherever it's built.

There has been criticism of the community facilities too by the way. The no kingsford folk have mentioned it quite a few times... but that's by the by.

my main point was how anyone expects the infrastructure and transport assessment to be passed at kingslinks.

I associate it with turning up somewhere and using the facilities there. Maybe there's another description for that type of thing.

 

Modernised community use I think of those fully fenced dual fitba basketball courts.

So turning up and using the facilities for free you mean? When would that ever be the case?! Apart from having to pay for use I don't think it's unreasonable to assume it's going to be available for use whenever the club isn't training, much like how hearts facilities have worked well for years (albeit the were erring slightly run down last time I saw it).

Basketball too? Let's see how much that would be used.

Also, has the club mentioned whether the gym would be available to locals? Can't say I've seen it confirmed that it wouldn't be. So we are up to multiple high quality floodlit grass and allweather pitches, multi use community rooms and possibly a gym. Not exactly nothing is it? Add in a permanent base for the AFCCT and it all mounts up.

Might just be me but I wouldn't call that community use.

 

Kings Links is served by enough public transport from all over and they'd say they would add additional ones to bring down the amount of cars. 1300 spaces, the beach and perhaps Bridge of Don park & ride.

It's available for use by the community... not really sure why that couldn't be community use?

Where's the 1300 spaces coming from at kingslinks? Is there the footprint there for that size of car park? If there is How does that ease congestion on the main routes away from the stadium that are gridlocked after games? It's tolerated currently, a fresh application across the roads changes that though. Maybe I'm missing something but would that really be passed?

I mean barring the improved access on foot pittodrie is fucking awful to get to at times from anywhere but on foot and on some bus routes.

Just trying to look at it logically.

Either I don't understand it or this community stuff is being mindlessly repeated. As far as I've read there will be 5 pitches and 1 or 2 available for hire (cost?) when not being used by the youngsters which I don't think would be very often or at useful times. It's not the local kids being able to turn up and play whenever they want.

 

Apart from that there will be...a cafe?

Good standard of pitches available for hire (of course there would be a cost, it's daft to think otherwise), then there's space available for general use, so community groups can hire the space for whatever community groups do.

Change of subject but it's widely accepted the transport situation at kingsford has is flaws, can anyone explain how the club are going to be able to put together a transport case for kingslinks when the existing car parking has been sold and the existing infrastructure is gridlocked post match even with modest attendances? Wouldn't moving to kingslinks be treated as a new development so even saying it's suitable currently has no bearing on it?

It strikes me that if we can't make a transport case work with a brand new bypass serving the local area and dual carriageway in to town, as well as additional parking over and above what we would normally be allowed and shuttle buses (ignoring the fact folk are unconvinced on having to use a shuttle bus to get there  for now)... how on earth can we expect it to be passed with none of those things albeit much more accessible on foot?

Maybe I'm missing something but I can't get my head around the thinking there

Had a few dealings with them, and much like the rest of the club, it seems to be run far better than it was in the past.  Been particularly helpful of late.  Keep it up 

 

And the stuff available has markedly improved too.

By dealings with them... I presume you mean persuading someone to dash across the city at lunchtime any time you smash your latest mug? 

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Not sure there's 2 announcements, read the two as a hint to Logan's squad number.

Would love to be wrong though.

Ah yes... let's pish our available budget away immediately on randoms rather than taking the time to get the guys McInnes wants in. Solid plan

That would be epic. Although a cash deal for Christie would also be epic.

Doubt we'll ever stretch to £8k/week and don't think we should... a loan is more than fine right now

read on twitter than mcinnes is coming home to try and convince Hayes to stay.

IF (and it's a big if) he pulls that off and gets the increased budget Cormack has mentioned this summer could be huge.

*edit*

Also... FUCKING YES! 

Being reported that Hayes to Celtic is done pending a medical.

Seems we were pushing for Christies loan to be such that he could play against Celtic. Here's hoping that's confirmed...

BBC Scotland journalist on twitter reporting that Dave Cormack has said no permission has been granted to talk to Mcinnes and they'll only do so on his say so.

Fingers crossed McInnes wants to hold out for a better/more stable job rather than Sunderland

I may be imagining this but didn't bookies stop taking bets on mcinnes accepting another job earlier this season or last season? Doesn't nessesarily mean anything.

Gary Monk has just resigned from Leeds, he'll be their manager, guarantee it.

That was my first thought/hope too.

Fingers crossed it works out like that!

If, as we all suspect he is, a spineless bastard, I fully expect Shinnie to break him. Jack would piss himself with fear.

 

Obviously if he stays, happy days 

Suspect it's all nonsense and really hope it is. Saying that fuck setting shinnie on him if it is true, let O'Connor loose on him