Due to the wall to wall coverage missed that the first round of this was last week. Results were as follows:

 

 

Hawick Royal Albert  0–5  Bonnyrigg Rose

Albert Park

 

Golspie Sutherland  1–4  Burntisland Shipyard

King George V Park

 

Auchinleck Talbot  3–1  Banks O' Dee

Beechwood Park

 

Coldstream  4–2  St Cuthbert Wanderers

Home Park

 

Preston Athletic  3–1  Glasgow University

Pennypit Park

 

Threave Rovers  0–3  Beith

Meadow Park

 

Tynecastle  0–2  Shortlees

Meggetland Sports Complex

 

Second qualifying round is on Ist September and ties are as follows:

 

 

Auchinleck Talbot v Wigtown & Bladnock

 

Girvan v Burntisland Shipyard

 

Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic v Shortlees AFC

 

Newton Stewart v Coldstream

 

Preston Athletic v Linlithgow Rose

 

Beith Juniors v Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale

It should be considered that this is a club that have tried to get one of their own players red card (for kicking an opposition player off the ball) rescinded on two separate occasion this season.

 

By their own actions they are quite clear in their belief that making contact with an opposition player with your foot is a yellow card offence, even if you quite clearly intended to do it.

 

I can't be arsed to go back and look for it, wasn't part of the decision to downgrade Morelos' red to a yellow, in the opening game, that he didn't injure or intend to injure?

 

And I assume their attempt to have Morelos' yellow rescinded for his slap on Shinnie's face was that it didn't injure him.

It should be considered that this is a club that have tried to get one of their own players red card (for kicking an opposition player off the ball) rescinded on two separate occasion this season.

 

By their own actions they are quite clear in their belief that making contact with an opposition player with your foot is a yellow card offence, even if you quite clearly intended to do it.

 

I can't be arsed to go back and look for it, wasn't part of the decision to downgrade Morelos' red to a yellow, in the opening game, that he didn't injure or intend to injure?

 

And I assume their attempt to have Morelos' yellow rescinded for his slap on Shinnie's face was that it didn't injure him.

 

But they're right. Morelos' fanny kick on McKenna was a yellow according to the rules of the game. Intention to kick does not come into it, it has to be with the intent to hurt. That will be why Morelos' recent band was upheld, because he clearly tried to hurt McKenna with a stamp to the nads. I think that the argument in the Shinnie case was that it wasn't deliberate (which it clearly was, hence the ban was upheld). Rangers will not be putting forward any arguments in the case of Power, because it is not their case to argue. If it is deemed that Power intentionally tried to hurt Jack or was reckless or out of control then it will be changed to a red (again, I don't remember that ever happening before in this country). If it - correctly - is deemed that he just went for the ball, then the yellow will stand.

I may be incorrect but did Gerrard not state that he would be "interested" to see if the compliance officer looked at the incident?

 

If he believes what you have stated as the reasons for these decisions, why mention it?

I may be incorrect but did Gerrard not state that he would be "interested" to see if the compliance officer looked at the incident?

 

If he believes what you have stated as the reasons for these decisions, why mention it?

 

Yes. He is interested to see whether the compliance officer thinks it was with the intent to hurt, thus a red card. The compliance office - not the hun - believes there is a case to be heard on those grounds. It's the constant comparison of every decision with the Morelos one that gets me (it was mentioned with regard to the McKenna sending off too for some bizarre reason, and the Devlin case too), hence why I was replying. They are not similar other than that a foot made contact with an opponent, so there is no precedent set by the Morelos incident that is relevant to this one. Rangers are not "clear in their belief that making contact with an opposition players with your foot is a yellow card offence" like you suggest - as that's not what they argued in the Morelos case - and nor would it matter if they were because they are not the compliance officer who is the only person who could cite this incident for further review.

 

Basically, if we're going to call it a conspiracy, can we at least get the facts right? The contention is that the incident is being heard at all as it was a yellow card dealt with by the ref at the time (right in front of him too). If they find against Power, then there will be a further issue over what is deemed as reckless/out of control similar to the McKenna vs Tims incident.

I still do not accept that you can kick someone without intent to hurt them.

 

Oh and I'm not calling it a conspiracy.

 

I am comparing them as;

 

1) the first incident Morelos aims and kicks a player in a deliberate act, reduced to yellow as you say because "there was no intent to injure".

 

2) The second they appealed based on, either a claim that Morelos's got tangled up with McKenna and it wasn't a deliberate act or he didn't injure him or intend to injure him.

 

3) Power neither deliberately intends to make contact, nor injures Jack, yet the huns are interested to see if the compliance officer takes further action.

 

It's double standards.

 

If the huns are going to appeal everything that their players do and get punished for then they have no right to call others out for further punishment. Particularly in a week when Gerrard himself calls out another manager for "trying to get one of his player banned".

 

There is no double standard over appealing. The huns can appeal as many incidents as they like, that is not a double standard. You seem to conflating appealing with having a decision overturned/go in their favour. I think the term you're looking for is hypocrite.

 

The only double standard is the decision to call in a case where an incident has been clearly seen and dealt with by the referee, because that has not happened in many other cases (see Cammy Smith v St Mirren) which were worse.

 

There is no double standard being applied to Power until such time as he's actually charged with anything, other than the decision to review. If he's given a ban, then there is still no double standard there as the incident doesn't really compare to any other, it's just a poor decision. If we're being picky, we could say that the nearest possible incident is McKenna versus the Tims, in which he was red carded so Power should get a red card based on that.

No further action to be taken for Power & McGinn.

Not entitled to get....they are are entitled to request that amount but will be subject to the geography of the ground ( segregation capability) and to police agreement. They will get the usual away section therefore not a hope in hell of them getting anywhere near 20%....

 

If the new Huns ask for 20% of the tickets , they'll be given the middle bit of the South Stand that the old Huns used to get, as well as the current away section.  The segregation'll just take the form of a swathe of seats being left empty or covered by tarpaulin or something like that with stewards and cops between the two sets of fans.  The same way as visitors' fans are kept apart from the unwashed at Parkhead and Ibrox. Same as Tynecastle and Easter Road as well.

 

Can't see the coppers having much objection as the Huns'll be able to get access to the middle sections of the SS via the Golf Road entrance which is kept for the sole use of the away fans.

 

And let's face it , we'll struggle to sell  16,000 tickets, let alone 18K

Live on telly for sure so probably not a sell out but I cannot see Plod Scotland agreeing to such a plan. A double line of stewards or rozzers ain't going to stop a riled up set of fans going for the opposition fans when the inevitable missiles start flying. There would be a riot....

Live on telly for sure so probably not a sell out but I cannot see Plod Scotland agreeing to such a plan. A double line of stewards or rozzers ain't going to stop a riled up set of fans going for the opposition fans when the inevitable missiles start flying. There would be a riot....

 

The Glasgow rozzers clearly think that form of segregation’s enough for a game between the uglies at Parkhead, so I can’t see the Aberdeen rozzers taking a different view.

 

Anyway , let’s hope Killie stuff them and we never find out !

Not one of the quater finals has a 3pm Saturday kick off

 

Sat 2nd March - 17:15 Hibs Vs Tic

 

Sun 3rd March - 13:30 Dons vs Sevco

Sun 3rd March - 15:30 Arabs Vs (Caley or County)

 

Mon 4th March - 19:05 Thistle vs Jambos

Not one of the quater finals has a 3pm Saturday kick off

 

Sat 2nd March - 17:15 Hibs Vs Tic

 

Sun 3rd March - 13:30 Dons vs Sevco or Killie

Sun 3rd March - 15:30 Arabs Vs (Caley or County)

 

Mon 4th March - 19:05 Thistle vs Jambos

 

SFA were lauding the fact they'd managed to get all four 1/4's on TV a few months back.  Although, i'd hope we're playing killie rather than the huns...

Semi Final Draw

 

ICT v Patrick or Hearts

Celtic v Aberdeen or Tribute Act.