Kowalski Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Should be McGhee be excused an altogether reasonable target of a cup final appearance because Calderwood wasn't able to? Yep, cause we've shifted the goalposts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerBomber Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I care not if Calderwood was unable to get us to a cup final Mcghees targets should be to win us a cup not get to the final. In saying that not getting to a cup final I can accept if we are defeated by either side of the Old Firm or by a narrow margin by another SPL side. Being humiliated by lower league and SPL teams in the cups I cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggy89 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Like Dundee? Or is McGhee being granted the "He IS a better manager than Calderwood, only the players that Calderwood signed can't be coached any better" excuse that has been trotted out previously this season. Otherwise I agree the aim should be to win a trophy, not just reach the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_min Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Like Dundee? Or is McGhee being granted the "He IS a better manager than Calderwood, only the players that Calderwood signed can't be coached any better" excuse that has been trotted out previously this season. Otherwise I agree the aim should be to win a trophy, not just reach the final. Agreed, RE: Winning Cups. If we're not gonna win the fucker, might as well lose to a 3rd Division team in the first round as losing in the final. Winning's all that counts in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie03 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Agreed, RE: Winning Cups. If we're not gonna win the fucker, might as well lose to a 3rd Division team in the first round as losing in the final. Winning's all that counts in my eyes. I personally would rather have got to the final than lose to QofS in the semis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roccovellhung Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 This season I expect at least 4th, otherwise what was the point in spending 600k (or so) just to finish lower than the previous season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU_64 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 This season I expect at least 4th, otherwise what was the point in spending 600k (or so) just to finish lower than the previous season? Agree. But if we finish lower, it will be with Jimmy's dross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 This better not be a fantastic season as I'm going to miss the most of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerBomber Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Like Dundee? Or is McGhee being granted the "He IS a better manager than Calderwood, only the players that Calderwood signed can't be coached any better" excuse that has been trotted out previously this season. Otherwise I agree the aim should be to win a trophy, not just reach the final. Exactly like Dundee. I am glad I was too lazy to venture down. Worst thing about the dundee defeat was that our stock in the cups had fallen so low no hun, tim or arab that I work with even took the piss about it. No Mcghee is not being given any slack. It is his job to motivate the players and have them play the way he wants to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azteca1903 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 This season I expect at least 4th, otherwise what was the point in spending 600k (or so) just to finish lower than the previous season? To be honest though, I imagine if we are going to see the fruits of that 600k it isn't going to be this season. I voted 5th by the way, too inconsistent, small squad, Mackie's shite etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 To be honest though, I imagine if we are going to see the fruits of that 600k it isn't going to be this season. I voted 5th by the way, too inconsistent, small squad, Mackie's shite etc... Always been our downfall Azteca, voted for 5th as well. We are in a transition season so we will have to be patient. Hopefully McGhee will be able to get a few pre contract agreements sorted this Jan and make some proper changes to the squad over the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU_64 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 We are in a transition season so we will have to be patient. Hopefully McGhee will be able to get a few pre contract agreements sorted this Jan and make some proper changes to the squad over the summer. Agreed. Have a +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Always been our downfall Azteca, voted for 5th as well. We are in a transition season so we will have to be patient. Hopefully McGhee will be able to get a few pre contract agreements sorted this Jan and make some proper changes to the squad over the summer. 5th for me too, if we don't get many more injuries and we sneak a few results. Pish eh? As you say perhaps McGhee can get some of the players he fancies into the team that finished 4th and transform us into a team capable of finishing 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandaldinho Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 5th, i think Hibs and United will battle it out for third but we'll get better as the season goes on. as for winning a cup.... i think if, theoreticaly, we finish 5th, then surely that means we're the 5th best in scotland, so coming 5th in a cup competition ( or going out in the quarters) is what we should be aiming for? so anything more than that is a bonus? So is the idea of to reaching a final or even winning one would then be aiming high? i dunno, would this equate to logic? comments please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbobaggins Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I never realised the â€next level†was down the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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