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2 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

I find it interesting reading names of foreign coaches who may know lutz but may never ever have been to Scotland. Knowledge and most likely experience of the Scottish game sounded like a prerequisite, no??

I wonder if that was a comment Lutz might regret saying, because it would limit his options if he stuck to that. And it also means it would likely be someone Lutz hasn't worked with before.

I think a happier medium might be a Scottish assistant with someone Lutz knows.

Although, Stephen Robinson is very much on the radar, as is Askou, so maybe at the time he said it he was confident he could get one of them.

1 hour ago, tlg1903 said:

I would want to see Leven go be a manager elsewhere before getting the Aberdeen 2bh. 

Begs the question, what would be the better education? Manage, say, a Morton or Airdrie, or be assistant to an experienced manager, working with a spitting director, and handling bigger names and expectations?

It is kinda what's happening at Celtic with Maloney and O'Neill. Maloney I'm sure could get a smaller job as his own man.

Gisdol himself gave up an early managerial role to be assistant to Ralf Rangnick at Schalke. 

Markus Gisdol is interesting. Has spent the majority of his career taking over clubs battling relegation and turning them around, but hasn't had any long term success at a club.

His most recent job in Turkey, he only took charge for eight games and failed to win a match, but I was reading the reaction of fans and they mostly said he never stood a chance with their squad.

Has experience of some huge clubs (Hamburg, Kaiserslautern, Koln, Lokomotiv Moscow), is a free agent and has worked with Lutz before.

I'd like to think we're grooming Leven to be the manager eventually one day, but maybe be needs a term as assistant manager first. Bring in Gisdol for 18 months before it inevitably goes tits up, then Leven can finally get the top job.

1 hour ago, Blow.Up.Sheep said:

 

Armstrong - release him been a big let down

 

Disagree, think he's actually played very well in spells, but has been woefully mismanaged.

He's been over played (compare his minutes to Graeme Shinnie), he's been constantly shuttled into different positions, and has had little to no chance to development any sort of partnership with anyone. 

Lyall Cameron? Rangers prepared to loan him out, but could we coax them, and him, with a permanent transfer bid?

They haven't actually paid Dundee for him yet, and he's not really playing under Danny Rohl.

3 hours ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

 

Would do him good to be dropped for a game or two, in my opinion.

 

 

Wasn't really referring to your post, and absolutely he should be dropped if his form isn't good enough, like you would expect in any other position.

But there's others that want him to hand back his SC winners medal and do a walk of shame down union street.

Good to see we've all stood by our cup final hero Mitov through some rocky times. Should do his confidence the world of good.

2 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

I wonder if we consider dropping Milne and playing devlin and polvara with knoester. Lobban an Jensen as wing backs, I just don’t rate gyamfi. Kjarten and shinnie with Clarkson at 10. Maybe adil and Armstrong with a forward, does it matter who? 

That's 12 players min, and that's before you shoehorn Allan Campbell in there.

Thought we were helped by Rangers being pretty bang average to be honest. Barron basically took on our midfield by himself.

Clarkson gave us some impetus late on, good to see someone running forward with the ball, but Lazetic and Karlsson were both a waste of time. 

We played three at the back, presumably to get the wing backs high since we had no width, but Gyamfi and Devlin aren't players who are going to take on the full-back.

Whoever wins the league this season, it'll be the poorest champions I can remember, and yet we've lost 4/5 to the top three, and 10/11 to the top six.

Despite everything, it's two corner kicks that's the difference. If we just did the basics right we could have been frustrating them while growing into the game.

Think the three at the back is again a waste of time, and our midfield are coming so deep we've six players all in the same area so can't break. Armstrong going on little dribbles outside our own box is achieving what?

Polvara into midfield, Armstrong further forward. I'd actually go 4-4-2.

Appears to be a 3-4-1-2. I'm actually liking the two up front. 

21 minutes ago, tlg1903 said:

Leven just said on sportsound its a back 3

That's the end of any suggestion he should get the job permanently.

Don't think he's actually been mentioned in the thread, but Miovski is on the bench for them.

3 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Fuck. It's the Dons isn't it? That's the bad news 

Thankfully not.

Although a man many are punting for the Dons job - Stephen Robinson - is the one signing him.

That looks like a 4-3-3 to me, or a 4-2-3-1 if Polvara is playing a bit further forward.

Kjartansson and Bilalovic both start.

Looks like Aouchiche hasn't made it.

Clarkson still being on the bench interesting, maybe wasn't just a Thelin thing there.

Some invitations you don't need to accept... 

18 hours ago, OrlandoDon said:

Allan Campbell in by the end of the week?

I have good and bad news for you.

Allan Campbell is about to sign for a Scottish Premiership club...

2 hours ago, glenn said:

Im travelling up from Corby. Any idea where Dons fans meeting for a drink before the game?

1 hour ago, tlg1903 said:

Anyway a whole bunch off Aberdeen fans met up in the hyndland rock bar in the west end to get smashed then got the tube across.  I think it was something of a dons pub at that point as I'm pretty sure Bobby Biscuit formerly of this parish went there a lot and got pally with the owners. No idea if that is still a thing or not though. 

Yeah it used to be a Dons-friendly pub. I was there for a Gothenburg anniversary night - Peter Weir and John McMaster were the special guests, they did a Q&A and the pub played the full game on the TV - and it was packed that night with Dons fans. I always remember Kevin Bridges standing at the bar ordering a pint, looking round bemused as to why so many Aberdeen fans were in.

But, last few times I've been there to watch a Dons game, you can count on one hand how many fellow fans are there. Think the pub sponsored the Aberdeen Glasgow supporters team or something back in the day, which was why they encouraged other fans to go.

Might be a supporters bus or two that stops there pre-match though so might be worth going past, but can't guarantee it. Especially for a midweek match.

When I first moved to Glasgow, every Dons fan seemed to go to Hubbards, a decent bar in its day. I remember the night we got past Dnipro, some bounce at the final whistle that then spilled onto the streets, was like being back in union street. But now sadly it's changed owners, is called the French Horn, and only shows NFL and the Six Nations. A fucking liberty.

But yeah, not sure where everyone goes now. I'm not even bothering to go to the game - £37 when it's -6 outside, and us playing like we have been, think I'll stick the heating on and watch from home. I did briefly consider changing my mind thinking Leven might get a new manager bounce, but prob left it too late now.

Watched the Lutz interview with RedTV.

A summary:-

- Performances over last four games were pivotal in deciding to sack Thelin.
- Personality of next manager: He needs to "reflect a certain emotion and a certain fire, which I think is extremely important to get this team going and get the players behind you"
- Won't put time scale on appointing new manager. "Could be six days, could be six weeks, could be six months."
- ⁠Says he told the players they have six months to prove themselves 
- Paraphrasing him slightly (11:15) but he basically says Aberdeen have lots of good individuals but not a good team.
- Among the names who have already applied, he says "there is some big names, some surprising names, there is some terrible names"
- Said "don't be surprised if we are looking for more Scottish players in the transfer market"
- Confirms Alfie Dorrington has returned to Tottenham (don't think it was ever officially announced) and "a few more players will leave in the next few days"

13 hours ago, Blow.Up.Sheep said:

I would be tempted to go for Scott Brown 

11 hours ago, Blow.Up.Sheep said:

we could do a helluva lot worse than going for Scott Brown.

1 hour ago, redordead said:

I think brown is a decent shout as his own man.  Has done well at Ayr.

The holidays are over. Sober up.

9 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Is it snowing in weegieland like? If nae, I'd rather they just got it out the way. 

Will be really interesting to see how Leven lines up for it. As someone who was here the entire time, it'll be intriguing to get a glimpse into how much he really believed in Thelin's project.

It's a rather pleasant -3 here, but no snow. Just some frost.

Get your fucking arses down here.

Not wishing to start any rumours, and I haven't heard anything about Aberdeen actually wanting the fella, but persuading Askou may not be as difficult as I first thought...

5 hours ago, RicoS321 said:

Failed Hibs manager Maloney would be up there with Warnock. I doubt it would happen.

I've actually went down a bit of a Maloney rabbit hole, looking at his tactics at Wigan and why it went wrong, and also at his short time at Celtic with O'Neill (he's actually still at Celtic as he's the pathway manager).

And you (and me, considering my earlier comment) are being a bit harsh on him.

Hibs - was his first job and he only got five months in it. 

Wigan - was a very difficult situation with points deductions and losing his best players, but his sacking was a surprise, and the general feeling is they've got worse since he left. I would actually say Wigan was probably his Bristol City/Derek McInnes and he'll be better for it.

By all accounts he was pretty instrumental in the dugout at Celtic in getting them results. Favours a 4-3-3, attacking football, yet at Wigan and Celtic he improved the defensive side of things too. 

I'm not saying he's my first choice. I'd like us to cast the net far and wide before hanging my hat on anyone. However, I do think the club will consider him, and if they do I could warm to it.

Like I said, ticks a lot of boxes for the club. Would be more of a head coach than manager, fulfills that popular phase "knows the league". Knows a few players as well - managed Shinnie at Wigan and was keen to keep him, tried to sign Kevin Nisbet. 

And hey, it might mean Mark "if you're no training with intensity, you'll no be in ma team" Fotheringham might follow him up the road.

Fuck it, get the Maloney thread started. Bring him home.

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