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To which i agreed! I thought Butcher *Although a cunt - would have been a much better choice and far less costly.

So it should be easy enough to name an adaquate replacement

You wouldnt like me as aberdeen boss, half of the untouchables Aluko, Maguire, Langfield, Diamond etc would have been up the road a long time ago I maybe thick - but im not cunt so watch your language

Statistically he has had the least amount of finanicial backing from the board. You get what you pay for

No bad they are all losers

Aye okies Motherwell were third in the league when the poor guy died anways. Hard to get a winners mentality installed in a team that hasnt had won in 20 years.

Like i said - what the club say and what the Facts in the balance sheet state are very differant. I am working with the facts which are we have our lowest wage bill last season since steve paterson worked here, that figure can only be lower again for this season unless hartley is on 20K a week. Are the club backing him? or can they simply not afford to sack him?

Ok well - take him out if you wish - its only furthering the point that there are very limited talented players at the club

Who would you take in out of interest? Im Not dissagreeing - but who would you want as manager . We have taken in two managers now who were apparantly miracle workers with a low budget (Paterson and Mcghee) it hasnt worked out for either of them. Who would you turn to?

Yup you are correct - our most talented youngstars at the start of the season would have had to be - Consi (injured for the best part) Pawlett (see before) Fyvie (injured) Maguire (hugely underperforming) Then we have had to call upon Jack and Robertson who are both out of their depth - there is nobody else. I would say maybes a bit less than what he has just now, but just look at the players they have on their books and who we have here, When Mcghee took over Motherwell they had just finished 10th with only 39 points, his first season they were 3rd with 60 points, (ahead of Calderwood with his massive wage budget) then the season after 5th with 53 points 1 point off 4th. Pretty good if you ask me. Like i said there are lots of problems within the club, Mcghee is one of them - but not the biggest!

Post evidence of that then you have a fair point, but the club also told us they only lost close to 700k last year which is nowhere near the truth which is in the annual report. Again you will have to post evidence of our wage bill being higher than most - i doubt that considering we took so many players off of our wage bill last season but only signed 8 to replace them. How? If you are making cuts then you have to expect standards to fall! We were shite last year and have made cuts - so whats going to change? The fact that the club billed it as "Reds Revolution" Surely nobody can argue that Mcghee and Calderwood have been given the same backing? The proof is there in black and white for all to see. (Well not everyone as the club still havnt put the figures online ) This isnt about Mcghee, this about whos coming in next.........What chance have they got. Changes need to be made from top to bottom in the club, until then we are fucked

Think they are both shite managers but at least one of them was given backing by the board. Evidence of that given the financial figures just released - In 2008 our wage bill was 5.931 - Last year its down to 4.601 that figure includes the money used to terminate tommy wrights contract, you can blame Mcghee all you want but a new manager is going to suffer the exact same fate. Fuck know what our wage bill is like this season but i guarantee its nowhere near last years. Fucking joke

LOLZ Whats he doing with himself now? Which manager has achieved more? End of discussion

so you are all idiots and motherfuckers

lol so wanting a shit manager gone makes you an "Idiot" and a "motherfucker" Interesting hahahaha

How the fuck have they managed that Net debt is up to £12.866 million from £10.977 last year. Total wages 4.601 from 5.756 Loans due within 1 year 11.792 million

Something fishy is going on Last year accounts released 31st Oct - AGM 23/11/09 2008 - Released 7th Nov and AGM 1st December Why so late this year, the agm at earliest going to be in two weeks if they announce it next week?

Exactly nobody will touch the site unless planning permission is given first.

Yeah according to companies house.

From that side of it the club budget to be 11th and out in the first round of the cups (again losers mentality strating at the top) some might say sensible planning but at least we are covering ourselves from that side of things. I can seriously seeing it being announced at the AGM that pittodrie will be sold off and planning put in for flats thus paving the way for the new stadium Stewarty has us by the balls.

Being honest i think we are fucked. Think the rolled up interest from loan is due in march and we have absolutely no way of paying it back.

Lol im working with weegies just now and its definitely rubbing off on me . At least its pure and not pyoor i guess

Including in my opinion his best two this season? :lolabove: Cant remember him having that many good games under JC, No doubting diamond was a better player under calderwood but he also had better defenders around him i.e. anderson and hart

Home or Away? He was fucking abysmal at the away game St Johnstone probably the worst player on the pitch, saturday he wasted one of the best chances you are every likely to get in a game and his passing was rank awful. Hibs game he was outstanding, Hamilton he had a decent game, nothing special but he did ok.

Do you dissagree? What games have you witnessed him playing well in?