OrlandoDon

Really keen to see the new boys play. Never seen McIntyre play before, and never heard of our two center mids. McIntyre says himself he’s strong in the air, and the two in midfield should bring energy and some teeth. we potentially have two new central defenders and three new central midfielders, obviously Cameron has played for us already. The lack of games could hurt us, but we could be a breath of fresh air. No clue what to expect from us really. Will leven even play afeez and Geiger from the start? going for 1-1 or 2-2. Nisbet and Cameron.

Pretty pointless argument, quite intrigued at the moment to see how things play out. Keen too see McIntyre afeez and Geiger play. re the cup final, look at the way we had played from Nov onwards. We were stunning vs rangers at home in the first half, then pretty much piss thereafter. I blame mcgrath’s penalty miss for our season going bad! we defended well in the final, and had the occasional attacking play. I don’t agree with you saying we’d played much better last season. we rarely played well from Nov until end of season. Pretty brutal at times. But I do think Celtic won the league blowing teams away at times.

Absolutely there was luck in the way we started last season. We were not playing stunning football, blowing teams away. Credit to us, we ground out results, and fortune was on our side at times. There were certainly times opponents missed chances, and we took ours. Fortunate with the late nisbet goal at Ross county, hung on a little at Dundee in the second half, 3-2 v hearts they missed a bunch of chances etc. to finish 5th was prob about right because we were rank pretty much from the league cup semi until the end of the season. Our luck ran out and the breaks stopped going our way. We were unfortunate in the bad games at times too, but for the most part we were a shit watch for a number of games, and a shit watch for most of jimmy’s time here. in the cup, hearts were better in the semi and them going down to 10 was massive, then 9. Final, Celtic were off that day, don’t think that was down to us, hit the post the bar etc, and we were fortunate with our goal. We defended well, but we certainly didn’t outplay them. Tremendous penalties from us but i do feel luck was on our side that day.

Interesting developments today that can be taken many ways! Lots of speculation. is doc here long term as part of the new management team? Could be one of the reasons this has taken a while and he’s been involved in discussions? Is doc also here to help recruit Cameron? is leven being phased out, doc comes in and somewhere between now and end of season leven leaves? Im not quite clear what leven needed if he’s here long term, he’s done the job before and there are others around that could have come in to help short term. Doc is more high profile and experienced which makes me wonder if doc is in our long term plans. new guy, horneland I assume, has a 1M payoff but cant work immediately unless we pay it. Cant remember who said it, but it’s sounds like it’s actually all about money. No point in paying 1M for the next 4 months when the team is in such influx, which also makes more sense to the lack of permanent signings over the last few weeks. New guy coming in can ‘scout’ us, assess players, and recruit. Develop connections with players without certain management responsibilities or commitments. While he’s not working officially, I’ll assume horneland will work in some capacity, and a significant one at that. we’ve been a playing mess pretty much ever since Jimmy arrived, lucky start to last season, and lucky cup win. But for the most part it has not been a pretty two years for the club……despite a great cup win. A four month fix is not a disaster if it helps us get our shit together, rebuild and prep for a proper summer, and a proper preseason. Lutz knows horneland and obviously he believes horneland is worth waiting for. I think it helps that he has a relationship, both in the ability to work together, I’m assuming lutz knows what we are getting, and lutz knows his style and ability. sounds like horneland has passion emotion and intensity, and his teams play with intensity. Sounds a lot like a certain Ferguson. Not saying it guarantees success by any means, but pretty much the polar opposite of Jimmy. Dare I say the team was rotting and going backwards, even scaring players away under Jimmy (Clarkson, whether he was good enough is another debate). Maybe lutz saw that, hence the firing when we were clearly not ready and didn’t have people lined up to replace Jimmy. Last point. Every manager is a gamble. Nobody guarantees success. Whether this guy, Scott brown, some German, Robinson, a return of Mcinnes. Klopp is available, but would he succeed? Luck is a huge factor. The stars need to align. Even the vastly experienced Neil warnock doesn’t guarantee anything! Maybe gieger McIntyre afeez Cameron are the spine of a team that is about to change in fortune?

Three managers since we canned Jimmy? We could learn a thing or two!

I was thinking they offer grief counseling during such a difficult time!?!?

Been swamped at work of late so not overly up to speed with things. I’m certainly a glass is half full guy and defend the club and cormack, but, what I’m finding increasingly surprising is the lack of communication/updates from the club. Don’t think I’ve missed anything but when did we last get an update? It’s been over 5 weeks since we canned Thelin. It does appear horneland became available approx a month into the search and we pivoted, sound right? are we getting any inside info? Financial delay? Issues with st etienne? Wanting to see us play? Us being a step down? Are those all garbage?? the silence has certainly fed rumors, this certainly hasn’t helped anyone and many fans are losing their minds! anyone know anything???

Great draw, got to obviously get by Motherwell, plus a new manager bounce would help. A semi draw with st mirren falkirk and an ugly sister, a final at hampden isn’t out of reach. Hope to see a new gaffer this week. Going into the cup game with new leadership will be a boost. I fear a blah re,winder of the season under leven though.

Nice little draw. Beat Motherwell and away to dunfermline. Celtic v rangers st mirren v Patrick thistle Falkirk v Dundee utd/spartans

Do tell!!

I’d assume it’s all money, nothing to do with opportunities to win leagues etc. We won the cup and look at hearts at present, as much as the old firm has dominated there’s always a possibility. Add that cormack has spend and appears willing to back a manager in order to compete. if reports of a 750k payoff/settlement have any validity, plus the consequences of walking straight into a new job, I’d assume there’s issues with st etienne paying then him immediately signing with us. He won’t or can’t sign with us until that’s resolved, and why would st etienne resolve this quickly to suit the manager. He wasn’t fired but you could question if he was tapped up by us so they’d be reluctant to part with such a significant sum if he had a job lined up, and questions asked about our involvement prior to him leaving the French club. Concerning, but I’d assume not unavoidable and time consuming. All speculation of course, could be totally wrong!

The silence is painful….. we getting him?

How’s it looking right now? 50/50 the game is on?? brutal weather here too. We’ve had frost. Even wore a jacket. Painful!

Maybe clutching at straws but were we waiting for him to be available and his departure from st etienne was know to be happening? It was just a matter of time and maybe them getting their new guy? Hence the quiet and us not putting out statements of being close etc??

Are you seeing into the future and our stats for next year? Or until the end of the season?