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It's nonsense really.

If you don't like a song being sung, start a chorus of something else and drown it out, which has the added bonus of keeping the atmosphere going.

Don't boo the songs, start fights with other fans or go grassing folk up to stewards while sitting on your hands. Dickish behaviour.

From what I can gather, it seemed to be overweight middle aged men (possibly Weegies) who started having a go at young laddies enjoying their day out and having a sing song.

Dear fuck I hated Calderwood and his pish.

Think it’s time for cool heads, not ridiculous knee jerk reactions. As an intelligent fan base we should be better than that.

 

I prefer to focus on the positives. They were desperate to beat us yesterday, but they couldn’t. And as a result Gerrard’s pre-rehearsed post-match soundbites sounded like paranoia and sour grapes. He was gutted and already the pressure is on him. It’s a bonus point for us, one up on last season, with a stretched squad, key players missing, and on the back of a draining week against good opposition in Europe.

A young local loon popped up with a fantastic and dramatic equaliser, then spoke about ‘dreams coming true’ and ‘hopefully more to come’ afterwards. McInnes is turning to youth players more often now, that’s what we all wanted, wasn’t it?

We’ve proved in recent seasons we can go on 8/9 game winning streaks, often on the back of a bad result, so the manager and the players deserve our patience in my opinion. Three games against tough opposition and we’re undefeated, let DMC do his business in the transfer market this week and let’s see where we are after that.

 

Hang in there fellas, keep the faith. 

Sense.

People seem to be ranting and raving on social media about everything and anything at the moment. Some of it is the sort of self entitled drivel that I'd laugh at fans of the cheeks for having.

Demanding to know why we haven't signed a striker without considering it's often a waiting game and we don't want to rush in the wrong player.

Unhappy that we're looking at the English lower leagues for a good striker, and equally unhappy that we can't unearth a gem like Moult (signed from Wrexham) like Motherwell did.

The mentality of "there must be someone in the youths who can step up" without properly thinking as to who is actually ready to make the step up, whether it may not be right in terms of their development, how they're training, their attitude etc.

All for fans having opinions and I understand we're light of numbers and people are on edge, but most of the nonsense above is spouted without fear or favour of being contradicted or proven wrong. McInnes has one shot at getting this right and will have hell to pay if he doesn't, so it'd be helpful if people properly weighed up the arguments and considered everything first of all.

Part of what has brought the Dons "success" over the last few years has been the team spirit/togetherness whatever you want to call it.

 

I think a lot of this comes from the fact they are all British players, no language issues, same work ethic etc.

 

I would rather that DM continues on that theme rather than recruiting from abroad because from recent past experience the foreign route never seems to work in the long term.

Absolutely this.

The "we don't scout enough" debate is like the "blooding youth" debate, in the sense that fans can spout pish on Twitter, on forums like here, ranting and raving about how (less successful) teams do it better than us without fear of getting called out about it when they're proved wrong. Sometimes takes a little bit of thought as to what's actually involved in building a proper scouting network, or deciding when the right time is to blood youth players in terms of their individual development.

It's not a question of happy clapping, or just accepting shite as is the usual comeback - 9 times out of 10 I can see what the manager is trying to do or where he's coming from, even if it's not always the way I'd have done it, albeit hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Mmmm, 24 year old and a grand total of 70 career games.

I'll reserve judgement at present.

 

Love his wikipedia page

 

Thomas "the hun skelper" Hoban  :

Surely it's best to reserve judgement anyway, until he's actually played a few games. Modern fitba

Happy enough with this. Could also be the case that we don't register Cerny, which would allow us to sign a striker if the right one is available today. No immediate rush though.

Looked good albeit a friendly, pleased for Cosgrove given some of the guff written about him over the last wee while.

Someone said May had a better minutes per goal ratio than Rooney last season, not sure if that's true.

We seem to be working within a small pool of buyable players of a decent standard. Only upside might be bring forced to blood more youngsters. Wouldn't be averse to signing up the best of young Scottish talent, and allowing a season or so of mid table mediocrity as long as we could see some signs of progress.

Whether they would be allowed the time am not sure , going by some of the pant wetting across  the forums

Sensible post, but the self entitled whingers would never allow it.

The importance of those attributes is diluted somewhat when that is a striker’s only attributes.

Hence why McInnes is perhaps looking for a more complete striker as his top man upfront, rather than a number of individuasl who can only hold it up/score tap ins/run about but contribute little else.

I would like to think that over the last 5 years or so that we have evolved from being a team that has a striker in the starting 11 on the basis that he “puts himself about” and “holds the ball up well”.

 

I haven’t seen anything from Cosgrove that suggests his role should be anything more than taking over the “we’re out of ideas, let’s thump the ball up to the big man for the last 10 minutes” role that Ash Taylor previously occupied.

You don't think things like pressing and holding the ball up are important attributes for a striker to have, especially in a where we won't likely have the majority of the ball?

The salient point here isn't that Cosgrove and May have been incredible because they haven't been yet, it's that physically Rooney cannot press or hold the ball up.

So how many goals came from this great partnership post split. I mean they must have got one between them for it to have been such a great partnership.

Linked well I said. Shows signs of promise, rather than our whole attacking play being geared towards putting the ball in front of a declining striker in the six yard box.

May has had his chance he was pish last year, Cosgrove aint the answer , our scouting and signing continues to be poor

It's funny how Cosgrove played a big part in the successful run in last season, including a good performance at Parkhead, yet you're dismissing him. Especially since the tap in king was nowhere to be seen.

Saw very little evidence of that last season. Cosgrove has looked every inch a player who could not score in the conference north and that has not changed in preseason games I have seen this year. May provided some assists mainly to Rooney.

 

Surely the main purpose of a striker is to score goals. Most teams would kill for a striker who only scores tap ins.

Drivel.

Cosgrove only really played post split, was very handy at Parkhead as a target man (something Rooney isn't) and in the Hearts home game (where he linked well with May, something Rooney couldn't do). Need to give people a chance rather than whinge constantly.

You can go so far with a striker who only scores tap ins, but a striker who is perhaps more complete and can do other things too is what we're now after.

rooney who started less games than may yet scored  more than may... so what was the style of play ?

He's maybe looking for a striker who can do more than tap ins and penalties

what is the style of play ? as i did not see any coherent way of playing last year

Perhaps a reason why Rooney is being moved on...

We'll be signing a new striker.

I’d be surprised to see a ‘top striker’ coming in, think it’s obvious McInnes is planning to go with a May/Cosgrove partnership. Think we’ll either be bringing in a squad player or relying on youth for striking options.

 

The squad seems alarmingly thin at the moment though - we have pretty much zero contingency, in defence particularly.... 

May and Cosgrove linked up better in the last Hearts game than Rooney has done with any strike partner that I can remember. Promising and something we'll see more of next season I'm sure.

Would love Moult or someone in though.

According to the P&J Adam Rooney is expected to finalise his departure from the club today to English National League side Salford City.

 

Sad to see him go but he was not getting much game time lately so probably best he moved on. Good luck to him for the future.

Thanks for everything, but time to move on.

Should not be beyond our means to find a striker who can contribute to the team in general as well as score the tap ins. Imagine the Messiah has someone lined up anyway.

Don't see those words anywhere in my post.

Folk have been puzzled by the scenario whereby Rogers gets a contract extension and immediately goes out on loan again despite him not being deemed good enough for us in January when Lewis was injured. On that basis, I'm sure most people expected us to sign a better known back up keeper. Call me negative if you like, but I can't honestly say I am inspired by this and looks like a Bossu/Lennox type signing

Surely being well known or not shouldn't come into the manager's thinking? Someone who's effective if and when called upon will do me. This boy may or may not have it.

Not quite getting the widespread bemusement around Rogers' situation either. Perhaps McInnes sees good potential in Rogers (still very young for a keeper), but he's not quite at the stage where he can be relied upon week in, week out for us yet in the event anything happens to our excellent Number 1  - hence the loan to a club in the same league as us to get him tested. Sitting on the bench for us won't benefit him in the same way.

Almost 27 years of age and the grand total of 59 league games in English Leagues 1&2

Bossu MK 2 anyone 

So we've decided he's shite already. Fantastic.

It being a short term solution, or anything along those lines doesn't make Ball a better player than he is. And that's the point myself and Jute, I believe, were getting at.  If Gleeson's injury is such that we have to have a replacement brought in then I would hope it would be of a decent standard, I don't think Ball is of that decent standard.

And I don't think he's especially great either, but I can understand the signing. After all, it was a position which McInnes already ticked off this summer before Gleeson's injury.

I daresay we could have looked at other defensive midfield options, but they may not necessarily have borne fruit before the Burnley games and we need somebody immediately. Goodness knows we'd also have heard all about it if we'd gone into Burnley without any sort of defensive midfielder and it cost us.

No one's demanding anything and no one is upset, as far as I can see.  It's just a discussion, but you charge on with that pish all you want.

I never said you or anyone else was upset, I said I wasn't

Let's not forget you were complaining about us only signing "names" last summer who looked good on paper, rather than there being a logic behind them, so I'm not sure how that fits in with your desire to be "inspired". If this is a short term replacement for Gleeson then the likelihood is it's been sprung upon us, and McInnes has moved quickly to plug the gap with the Burnley games in mind especially.

Is Ball the only midfielder on the planet we could get? 

 

I know you're a DM fan and all that, and he can do no wrong, but even you can't be inspired by this?

Not especially a Ball fan either, especially at RB cover, but I can see the logic in taking on someone the gaffer knows well if to cover for our defensive midfield signing who seems to have got a bit of a nasty injury in pre-season. I can't get overly upset about it if I'm honest, and if we're demanding to be inspired by backup defensive midfield signings then we're even more self entitled as a support than I thought.

100%. Had a few ok games, but just ok. We need to be looking for better than him. Smacks of desperation or laziness, maybe both.

Or smacks of Gleeson having picked up a fairly bad knee injury?

Another 6ft plus striker. Surely we should be looking at a higher standard than 4th division in England.

Impossible to say without having seen the lad, but I'd like a wee bit of pace with our new striker. Somebody who can play on the shoulder of the last defender.