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Do we really need a manager? They just seem to make things worse.

The good news is that Kerr & Craigan are punted as well 👍

Not having a go, but why on earth would anyone take Lennon? Has achieved absolutely nothing as a manager other than at Celtic where a chimpanzee could have won those trophies given the financial advantages he had. He’s also got serious personal issues and flaws, we’ve had managers like that (Paterson anyone) so why on earth would we go down that road again? The one thing I’d say for him is I did like his attitude when at Hibs and the fact he never backed down or shat the bed against the uglies - we could definitely do with some of that attitude - but the myriad red flags waaaaay outweigh that. So for the avoidance of doubt, its a no from The Moog jury…

Bad news today with the announcement of Billy Little’s death at 86. He was a first team regular when I first attended Pittodrie in 1966, and was a very good winger, who occasionally played as a striker. I hope the club commemorates Billy’s contribution appropriately. Sleep easy min.

Admins, can we give out bans to those who voted for him to stay? 😁

Fuck all to do with me 😂

Can we get rid of Lutz at the same time? He is equally culpable for this squad of jobbers

How bad are the in laws if you'd rather go to Pittodrie?

I have no idea about contemporary fitba beyond the Dons and Keith, so have no input of value in suggesting who might be a replacement for the most recent sucker. I was musing earlier on, however, about the Pittodrie gafferage I can recall since I uttered my first “fuck, er…I mean oh dear” around 1964 when my interest initially took hold. E&OE excepted, of course Pearson Interim Shaw Turnbull Bonthrone Interim Murray McLeod McNeill Ferguson Interim Knox Porterfield Eeeehhhh Smith/Scott 6 Aitken Interim Burkinshaw Fucking Fucking Fucking Alex Fucking Miller whose face I’d never tire of battering with a shovel, a huge heavy fucker of a fucking shovel, perhaps even the front bucket of a JCB, the cunt.* Interim Hegarty Skovdahl Interim Speirs Paterson Calderwood McGhee FFS Interim Neils Cooper and Simpson Broon McInnes Interims Sheerin, Robson, Simmie Glass Interim Robson Goodwin, the fucking fraud Robson Interim Pete Warnock Interim Pete Thelin Interim Pete Robinson Interim Duff *other than the foregoing, I have no particularly strong feelings about the useless negative cunt of hell and several surrounding postal code districts

I don’t see how Pep Guardiola can give the opportunity a miss to finally prove he is Sir Alex’s equal.

9-12 Months. That confident. We've still time to get someone in and out again, by the time the January window closes.

Was the only player on the pitch acting like a captain for us last night. We can call him shyte and say his legs have gone, but the guy gives a shit and gets it. I thought Robinson would have loved Nicky Devlin in his team. The type of player who runs through brick walls for you and never hides on the pitch. We needed more Devlin types in the summer and got Brad Lyons instead.

💯 Absolute charlatan. He can GTF, and Robinson simply has to go this weekend. Fuck me we’ve got a dreadful squad. And we need another DM - it’s the same story every match when Aremu is hooked: you can drive a coach and horses through our midfield without a holding midfielder in there.

I suspect Robinson has been operating under a reduced budget anyway. They'll have been attempting to get "value for money", but instead have just signed average players. Just like we saw under Pele, latterly under Calderwood and even under McInnes (Main was a budget May for example). It's usually a false economy, because guys like Lyons and Mayo will expect to be paid more for us than they'd get elsewhere, so the financial advantage you have over the diddy sides disappears to the point of being a hindrance. There's not much difference between Lyons and guys like Danny Griffin or Neil MacFarlane. Or Mayo and Paul Quinn. They aren't terrible players, but as soon as you go down the road of making them starters every week (and not just one or two of them), then you're basically on par with Motherwell, Dundee utd etc.

I think he’s also a little bit of a dick. Can’t see him rallying the troops. Sounds more like he’ll alienate himself and piss everyone off with his grumpy wee man syndrome. (Apologies, all the tactical insights have been used up by others so this was all I had to offer).

Lennon's an utter, utter mink. Fucking gads.

This idea can fuck right off. And when it gets there it can fuck off again as well. Jesus wept, my blood pressure does not need rumours like this.

Going from bad to verse.

To give him another few weeks.

I’m suing Mr Spiers for RSI brought on by repeatedly hitting the browser refresh button to no avail…

I’m constantly amazed by how much everyone seems to know about how good/bad/indifferent the various back room staff are. Is there a hidden camera in the Pittodrie boardroom? Since Main Stand Moan left AbMad I don’t reckon we’ve had anyone with genuine inside knowledge. I could be wrong of course. Either way, I’ve no idea whether Lutz is shite or not. But Robinson clearly is. Time to go.

% of win bonuses won’t cost the club too much.

I'm only going on what Cormack made fairly clear when he first joined. As far as I could tell, the idea was to have a few footballing "support" departments, and that the manager was not in charge of them. Personally, I've never understood the need for a recruitment director, but that's neither here nor there. I think it muddies the water slightly. The manager is in charge of all football on-the-park, and coaching issues, and is responsible for that in full. The sporting director ensures that we have a manager that sticks to a particular strategy and that players that are signed align with that strategy. He holds the manager to account and provides "devil's advocate" in the background, questioning why he's making certain decisions and always going back to the strategy and seeing how things are progressing in alignment with that. He talks to players and is generally close to the footballing side without being overbearing. He's there because of his football knowledge, which doesn't exist on the board, and for his availability (he's full time). He transcends the manager, so that we don't have the next guy coming in and ripping everything up to start from square one again. Of course, it took Cormack six years to actually get a sporting director in, and then when he did, he overrode his decision on the manager (not without good reason, in fairness). The reason for the sporting director is fairly straightforward and makes complete sense. McInnes left, and so did sport science and recruitment, where his favourite picks were in charge. I'm fairly certain similar will happen at Falkirk when McGlynn leaves. The problem that we have is that we either keep panicking and handing everything back to the manager to control (Thelin), or just not having the staff in place when a manager arrives on their reduced remit (every manager since Cormack arrived). I haven't got a clue if Lutz is good at his job or not, but I would find it very strange if he was sacked on the basis of his entire job description being overridden by a panicked manager appointment by those above him.

As ludicrous as sitting in a dug out with the manager? The little useless prick, and I genuinely believe he is a useless prick, needs to fuck off.

A 4-0 defeat at home and we are saying Milne and Devlin only ones to get pass marks - when did we sink that low? I agree though - they were my pick of players in red. Ronan at least tried but he was a poor mans McGrath all told. To have forced out Shinnie as a captain to hand it to Nisbet - holy shit- I get that Shinnie wasn’t as mobile as he once was but Nisbet as Captain? The other option Brad Lyon’s? 🤣🤣Devlin showed more leadership when he came on against Falkirk than Nisbet has shown all season. I actually think you will get more out of Nisbet if he just concentrates on his own game Just sick of the leadership at the club from Cormack all the way down to the wifies team

I expected Robinson to be a failure but he is exceeding even my low expectations. Abysmal for huge chunks of the game today and soundly beaten by a shite Hibs side. Only Jack Milne and Devlin got pass marks today and no surprise they were not signed by this fraudster. We need rid or he is taking us down. Thing is I do not think our Turkish teeth chairman or penguin thief of a sporting director have any idea how to fix this.

Without specifying, I've no idea who you are referring to as there are so many that qualify.

I don't, he's clearly a bellend. Mahou, Mouloua, Ntelo, Briedl, Aremu, Muller are not his signings in fairness, and you'd have expected both Olusanya and Lyons to be backup to those guys (Mahou aside). The scouting has been fucking woeful again. I don't know how they turn it around after tonight. Robinson needs fired into the sea, but we still seem very short in the overall running of the club, and the answer can't be just to let another manager come in and tear everything up again with a clean slate and zero strategy. Cormack correctly highlighted transitioning between managers as a big issue seven years ago, and since then has fucked up every single footballing decision. It'll be deeply uninteresting to watch him not learn from this one. Milne with pass marks tonight. The rest were terrible and the subs a sign of a guy who not only doesn't understand his own side, but football generally.

I would be very interested in giving this guy an in-person performance review and hearing what he has to say for himself.

I stuck it out until the third. Bar that period around the 40 minute mark, we were second place all over the park. Wasn't even the fitba that was the worst part for me. That group playing live at half time, were awful. Brad Lyons taking the captains armband, after Nisbet, highlighted our plight perfectly.

Not one manager, and I include McInnes in this, since leaving us have done anything in football management that could be deemed a success that showcases we were wrong to punt them. That list includes first time managers, experienced managers who know the league and foreign managers who had a credible reason for being appointed. Robinson obviously falls into the same category as Goodwin in that he is an experienced manager who also knows our league but there is nothing in the slightest to suggest that when we do eventually get shot of him that he'll deliver any success that will deem our sacking of him hasty. The football on show has been shockingly bad, there is zero excitement/entertainment to be had watching us, his line-ups are baffling as are the vast majority of his substitutions. He hasn't gelled with the supporters and if anything he has lost a vast amount of fans who were willing to give him a chance when he signed on. The decision to cull so much of last seasons squad has came back to bite him big time as a very high % of his signings are nowhere near an improvement on some who departed and we now have lengthy contracts dished out to sub-standard players. Even if we do beat Hibs, and I don't think we will, it'll simply be an opportunity for Robinson to come out and say he's revitalised his squad and they are finally buying into what he wants from them and that we'll see an improvement moving forward with better performances and results only for things to come crashing down after the international break when we pick up a couple of points from 5 fixtures and we're back to square one. He kept us out of the play-off positions last year, I 100% believe that's where we were headed under Leven & Co, and for that I and many others are grateful but he has failed on just about every level possible as the manager of our club since the final fixture of last season and his time is up.

The Donstalk fridge has been hacked.

But he didn't actually have to do that. Yes we needed to sign players, but he could have managed the turnover a lot better than he did. He appears to have escaped criticism for Kjartansson feeling he wouldn't be given a chance. Shinnie and Mitov could have been persuaded to stay and help the transition. I think we can gather from his leaked "fuck off topi" shout at the FC Twente friendly that he wasn't too arsed about Keskinen leaving. Again, not all the signings are his, but of the 13 outfield players signed, I'd say seven are considered subs, and a lot of the times because they don't fit how he wants to play. Goodwin's scorched earth policy four (?) years ago was a big mistake, and Robinson has repeated it with a smaller budget, so he didn't even have any Miovskis or Ramadanis coming in as replacements. The Motherwell game we looked good in short spells. However, we had 30% possession and scored with all four shots on target. And that is the most impressive we've been under Robinson. And he hasn't managed to get close to that level of clinical finishing since, which suggests it was a bit of a fluke rather than the beginning of an upward trajectory. The games we have won (and Dundee United), there's been little spells where we temporary rise above mediocrity. But at no stage do I think we're actually improving as a team, it's more just some individual performances ("Mouloua looks handy", "Ronan scored a good goal", "Mine defended well"). I don't think we're any better as a team now than we were on the opening day of the league season, or even in April/May when we had three wins from four. Under Robinson I always think we might pull off a few results here and there, but I really struggle to see us going up a level consistently. For example, we could have sneaked the semi-final, had a great result, but the long term prospects for the team would remain the same. If we were at full strength, maybe Milne doesn't concede a penalty v St Johnstone, maybe we defend a goal or two better in other games, but as an attacking threat I still think we'd be as poor as we have been. We've been punished a wee bit more, but we'd likely still be labouring week to week. What's interesting about Hearts, Dundee United and Falkirk in particular - they've all had their fair share of bad results this season, but you can see real improvement in them, and that's why there's belief in their support. Even in defeat on Sunday I thought Hearts looked alright and were doing the right things, they were just weakened way too much by an injury list that is a lot, lot worse than us. Hibs - it's early days. Motherwell too. But as a neutral I'd have more belief in them improving long term than us.

He was being inaugurated into the hall of fame for watching every single game of televised fitba in the world over the last decade.

He's taking the piss!

Yep, the standard and quality of the Scottish league is absolutely abysmal - which only makes our complete failure to put a team on the park that is capable of regularly winning matches and competing at the top end of it even more unacceptable. I don’t think we have an earthly that this mob finishes 4th. Its a bottom six level squad. To not be able to put a winning team together in this league on our budget, and not manage it regularly for years now, is a frankly staggering level of incompetence and mismanagement. And who can see that ending anytime soon? Depressing really…

Wimmer is an interesting one and I wonder how seriously we'll take it. Ticks a lot of boxes : - The high intensity/aggressive style Lutz wants ✅ Has some experience (albeit four months) of Scottish football ✅ Reputation for developing youth ✅ Some relative big club experience from Stuttgart and Austria Vienna ✅ Also, his preferred formation is 3-4-1-2 or 3-4-2-1, so it's not like he would be coming in and trying to play wingers only to find his predecessor didn't bother to sign any. The biggest difference is he wants players to pass the ball and attack. Been a while since our boys did that so might be a culture shock for some of them. But, Motherwell fan I work with liked what he was doing there with a limited squad, and helped put the building blocks in place for Askou. Did beat Rangers at Ibrox (but got hammered by Aberdeen, who he called a "brilliant team" afterwards). The concern would be he hasn't held down any previous manager job for much longer than a year, and he's quit his last two jobs early. Might be a positive for us though if he just leaves and saves us having to sack him.

Just been shown an article by Bill Leckie. "Aberdeens problem is not Stephen Robinson, it's comparing everything to the Fergie era." 2026 and still peddling shyte like that as journalism.

We lost loads of games

John McGlynn is a very good coach. Robinson isn't.

I have to disagree with that but maybe I'm mis-reading the Director of Football role. This man Lutz bares ultimate responsibility to the CEO and Chairman for what happens on the pitch, many of those signings that are not pulling their weight, not doing the basics and fundamentals well enough, not running, not following basic instructions and are basically not cut out to be Aberdeen players are his. When Robinson suggests signings, such as Brad Lyons, such as Chris Cadden, such as Dan Happe, such as Obi Wan and shipping Lobban out of loan, freezing out Devlin, Frame, Gyamfi, Lutz' signature is on that decision and on that paperwork as well. And now the shit has hit the fan, where is he? We have Robinson wheeled out in front of the press for his post-match humiliation ritual, Robinson reports to Lutz and everything Robinson asks for goes through him, but we never see him, same as we never see Cormack. We saw Bevington in the stands after the game looking like he was about to vomit, at least he's there, he's visible, where is Lutz? Who's accountable for this to the fans? It's the one in the hierarchy who approves the decisions, ultimately, which under the Cormack structure is not the manager it's Lutz, but no one knows where he is, what he does and he's never, to my knowledge, even explained publicly what the structure is and where the responsibility lands when the plan fails. If the DoF + CEO system has any merit beyond hot dog stands and flipping players on the market like London flats, then it should be Lutz in front of the cameras rn, it should be him justifying this mess and telling us how it's going to change, but the worse it gets the more AWOL he seems to be.

Think Alan Shearer and one or two others might disagree on that score. I think a player makes the captain, not their position. We hounded out Shinnie because his legs had gone, but would still be our best player if he had stayed. Brad Lyons getting the armband tonight, when Nicky 'Cafu' Devlin was on the pitch, really fucked me off. Devlin is far from our best ever right back, but the guy is a battler who at least gives the impression that he gives a shit.

It's no coincidence that once Aremu was hooked the opposition scored and we still couldn't score. Many such cases and it shows Robinson is fundamentally out of his depth

I actually feel sorry for Robinson. Should never have been given the job in the first place and was always going to end badly. Way out of his depth. He was never coming back from signing Olusanya and Brad Lyons.

Disagree He made St Mirren difficult to beat, whereas he had turned us into a day old babies soft shite Get him to fuck away from my club please

The city needs an ethnic cleansing policy - eradicating Huns and tims to the central belt

Lovely own goal to put Thun ahead Having said that I think tonight's easiest money bet may well be both teams to score in this game

Even if he can get the squad shaped and playing the way he wants them to, it’s still going to be a chore to endure. The whole point of getting a manager with a track record of punching above his weight (let’s give him the benefit of the doubt on that) is so we can compete at the top of the table with the 3rd/4th biggest budget. He seems to think the remit is to assemble a squad of bottom 6 rejects and try to sneak into the top 6.

Nice to see all that money Elon & AIPAC spent going down the pan. A bad night for pool owners across the states

Shinnie?