DT Politics Thread

[Mason89]

41 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

The electorate failed to grasp that the Tories helped kill it whilst in power.

Going to be an interesting few weeks/months ahead anyway.

 

 

They had 14 years in power to save it but they’ll do it now, promise. 
 

I can fully understand how the electorate of Aberdeen South can feel a bit short changed by their options but fucking hell, imagine voting for them. Any thicker and they would set 

[CurlsLikeTattie]

12 minutes ago, Mason89 said:

They had 14 years in power to save it but they’ll do it now, promise. 
 

I can fully understand how the electorate of Aberdeen South can feel a bit short changed by their options but fucking hell, imagine voting for them. Any thicker and they would set 

John Crace on good form today with his opening paragraph, in response to Liz Truss revealing Labours "secret plan" - get Burnham back to Westminster to challenge Starmer.

"It’s one of the great philosophical questions of our age. Or any age, for that matter. If Liz Truss didn’t exist, would it be possible to imagine her? Could anyone conceive that someone so brain-meltingly dim could have once been our prime minister"

[TheDonbytheDee]

1 hour ago, CurlsLikeTattie said:

John Crace on good form today with his opening paragraph, in response to Liz Truss revealing Labours "secret plan" - get Burnham back to Westminster to challenge Starmer.

"It’s one of the great philosophical questions of our age. Or any age, for that matter. If Liz Truss didn’t exist, would it be possible to imagine her? Could anyone conceive that someone so brain-meltingly dim could have once been our prime minister"

She is a qualified accountant too, the same Institute as myself. 

We must be the poundland version of Accountants. 

 

[TheDonbytheDee]

Just saw that the turnout at Aberdeen South was only 38%.

A shocking figure, but nobody seems to care that 62% of the electorate couldn't give a fuck. 

 

 

[RicoS321]

48 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

Just saw that the turnout at Aberdeen South was only 38%.

A shocking figure, but nobody seems to care that 62% of the electorate couldn't give a fuck. 

 

 

Is it that they don't care, or that they don't see a tangible link between voting and outcome? 

[blinlemon]

5 hours ago, Mason89 said:

They had 14 years in power to save it but they’ll do it now, promise. 
 

I can fully understand how the electorate of Aberdeen South can feel a bit short changed by their options but fucking hell, imagine voting for them. Any thicker and they would set 

I’m puzzled at the SNP failing to get its vote out (it’s down by about 46%, it seems). Might it be because the unbearable screaming skull Jute cunt* was more popular than my former MP 2019-2024 - who I voted for to keep the Tories out in 2019? Very very strange, especially with a hugely-partisan World Cup in progress. I suspect the middle classes of Mannofield, Milltimber etc turned out. 

*I’d be interested to find out if the big operation he had on his leg a while back also included the insertion of an extra vertebra to enable him to sook his ain cock. “I’m proud to say that I once canvassed in Aberdeen wearing a Dundee United shirt”. You’d have had your knackers kicked up your arse had you appeared on my doorstep, matey. 
Disclaimer: apart from the foregoing, I hold no strong views on the matter. E&OE etc

Edited yesterday at 12:27 by blinlemon

[TheDonbytheDee]

19 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Is it that they don't care, or that they don't see a tangible link between voting and outcome? 

 

When I say care, I mean the politicians and the press. I have no issue with people not voting.

I'd be embarrassed to win a seat where the over whelming majority couldn't be arsed. Possibly why I would never make a politician. 

Voter turnout has been dropping for years, and I know a lot of folk don't bother with by-elections, but it's just a bugbear of mine.

 

 

I just noticed at the Arbroath by-election yesterday, turnout was only 31%. The fourth ever lowest voter turnout.

Makerfield was just shy of 60%, which was the same as the turnout for the whole of the 20245 UK election. 

 

 

 

[Kowalski]

Good to see that missing 1973 episode of Doctor Who was finally found. 

[RicoS321]

58 minutes ago, Kowalski said:

Good to see that missing 1973 episode of Doctor Who was finally found. 

Assumed it was a wizard of Oz panto. Not sure that Burnham will be revealing anything from behind the curtain when he becomes PM.

[Jupiter]

What's all the fuss about Burnham anyway? He's already ran for Labour leader twice and lost to Milipede and Corbyn.

[swaddon]

13 minutes ago, Jupiter said:

What's all the fuss about Burnham anyway? He's already ran for Labour leader twice and lost to Milipede and Corbyn.

Aye, but he'll be up against Starmer this time. And he's hardly a formidable opponent.

[Jupiter]

2 hours ago, swaddon said:

Aye, but he'll be up against Starmer this time. And he's hardly a formidable opponent.

Neither were Milipede and Corbyn. It was embarrassing for him to lose to those two muppets 

[TheDonbytheDee]

9 hours ago, Jupiter said:

Neither were Milipede and Corbyn. It was embarrassing for him to lose to those two muppets 

He was guilty of being a Blairite, that's what cost him on previous attempts and how Ed beat his Brother David to the Leadership, after Brown.

He left Westminster, become Mayor of Manchester, had some relative success with that and now has a bit of momentum which he is hoping to carry into the role of PM.

I'd say as things currently stand, he is the best of a very bad bunch and much more preferable to another three years of Starmer, but politics isn't usually that straight forward and expect a twist to it yet.

The rise of Burnham, seems very similar to the rise of a certain Boris Johnson, as Prime Minister!

 

[InversneckieDob]

Burnham would appear to have a politically chameleonic quality.

He's sellable though, with an eye for a soundbite. 

That's what matters these days isn't it?

[TheDonbytheDee]

There seems to be some behind the scenes goings on, to get Starmer to step down and Burnham to move into the PM role without a leadership contest.

 

[TheDonbytheDee]

12 minutes ago, InversneckieDob said:

Burnham would appear to have a politically chameleonic quality.

He's sellable though, with an eye for a soundbite. 

That's what matters these days isn't it?

I think it's been like that for quite a number of years now.

Spin over substance.

[RicoS321]

13 minutes ago, TheDonbytheDee said:

I think it's been like that for quite a number of years now.

Spin over substance.

That's true. What is weird is that I've heard numerous people treat Burnham as some sort of saviour. From people in the greens for example. As if he's going to change British politics in some fundamental way. It's strange. He's just another professional middle class man, who'll talk about "grown up politics" and other obsequious phrases designed to make himself look competent and "statesman-like" (whatever the fuck that means), disguising the fact that he does fuck all. Because the system he's part of allows him to do fuck all, and he's comfortable with that. Any Labour voters I've heard talking about it suggest that he's the man that will keep both Reform and the Tories out. That's the absolute height of their ambitions. Does anyone really look at the world's problems, the multiple crises facing the planet and think that Labour Vs Tories is the relevant thing here? Anyway, good luck to him, I'm sure he's a lovely chap.

[Mason89]

You’ll be able to tell straight away what path he’ll take. Given who the cunt was that stepped aside for him, I’m pretty sure I know. More of the same but better packaged. 
 

I’m not one of those edgy fast moving horse whispering spin doctors who have their finger on the pulse of every focus group going but if I was him, I’d do the following and id do it quickly 

1. Sanction Isreal 

2. Replace the Home Secretary 

3. Start chatting up the EU 

4. Remove the whip from Glasman 

5. Stop treating protesting grannies as terrorists 

6. Stop listening to JK Rowling. She’s mental 

7. Tax billionaires inside out 

8. Start Levenson 2 

9. Start hounding the PPE profiteers 

10. Fold Dundee Utd 

 

[Goldie03]

More likely to concentrate on point 10 than anything else 

[TheDonbytheDee]

3 hours ago, Mason89 said:

You’ll be able to tell straight away what path he’ll take. Given who the cunt was that stepped aside for him, I’m pretty sure I know. More of the same but better packaged. 
 

I’m not one of those edgy fast moving horse whispering spin doctors who have their finger on the pulse of every focus group going but if I was him, I’d do the following and id do it quickly 

1. Sanction Isreal 

2. Replace the Home Secretary 

3. Start chatting up the EU 

4. Remove the whip from Glasman 

5. Stop treating protesting grannies as terrorists 

6. Stop listening to JK Rowling. She’s mental 

7. Tax billionaires inside out 

8. Start Levenson 2 

9. Start hounding the PPE profiteers 

10. Fold Dundee Utd 

 

If we could get Douglas Alexander to fuck as well, that would be good.