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so the sides that have dropped into the UEFA cup after last night and tonight are:



Sparta Parague :beers:

FC Zurich

Dinamo Zagreb

FK Sarajevo

FC Copenhagen

IF Elfsborg

Tampere United (WHOOOOOOOOOOO)

SV Red Bull Salzburg 

Ajax :rastaman:

BATE (eh)

Red Star Belgrade

Dinamo Bucuresti 



and one of

Sellick/Spartak Moscow

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As the teams coming through from the qualifiers are likely to be even worse than us are opponenets will come from those above and this lot:


Rank Team Coefficient rating Group

1 Villarreal 78.374 1

2 Bayern Munich 73.640 2

3 AZ Alkmaar 63.995 3

4 Panathinaikos 55.415 4

5 Girondins Bordeaux 49.706 5

6 Bayer Leverkusen 45.640 6

7 Club Brugge 45.594 7

8 Palermo 42.808 8

9 Tottenham Hotspur 40.618 8

10 Real Zaragoza 40.374 7

11 Rapid Bucharest 40.255 6

12 Lokomotiv Moscow 38.920 5

13 Sochaux 36.706 4

14 Heerenveen 35.995 3

15 Bolton Wanderers 32.618 2

16 Sporting Braga 27.107 1

17 Getafe 25.374 1

18 Everton 24.618 2

19 Fiorentina 21.808 3

20 Empoli 21.808 4

21 Rennes 20.706 5

22 Panionios 16.415 6

23 FC Groningen 14.995 7

24 FC Nürnberg 14.640 8

25 Os Belenenses 14.107 8

26 Paços de Ferreira 14.107 7

27 Mladá Boleslav 13.851 6

28 Aris Thessaloniki 13.415 5

29      FC Twente 12.995 4



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here is a more accurate list. (source http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seeduc2007.html)

Presuming that the seeds all win tomorrow night we WILL be playing one of those named below:



Bayern München

Ajax ***

AZ Alkmaar


FC Basel **

RC Lens @

Girondins Bordeaux

Bayer Leverkusen

Club Brugge


Anderlecht ***

Tottenham Hotspur

Real Zaragoza

Rapid Bucuresti

Lokomotiv Moscow

Zenit St. Petersburg **

Sparta Praha ***

FC Sochaux-Montbéliard

Blackburn Rovers @

AEK Athens ***


Hamburger SV @

Dinamo Bucuresti ***

Bolton Wanderers

Austria Wien **

Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk **

Sampdoria @

Spartak Moscow/Celtic

Sporting Braga

Galatasaray **


Atlético Madrid @




Stade Rennais

CSKA Sofia **

Hapoel Tel-Aviv **

Red Star Belgrade ***


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Fucking Jute Dundee cunts  :hammer:


Our fabricators in Dundee have delayed the delivery of some equipment until mid september (rather than tomorrow) which means I will have to miss the first leg if it is away as I have to install the equipent.


Please please let the away game be the second game  :lambsey:

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Right. I have finally after working for over an hour got a full list of teams still in UEFA Cup. Those marked with a U after co-efficient are playing today in UEFA Cup and can be deleted as and when the go out which will leave the 80 teams for the draw.




Another spanner in the works for trying to work out the groups tonight is that Seville and AEK Athens have still to play in Champions League and one of those teams will have to drop into UEFA Cup and both have different co-efficients but it is reckoned that UEFA will take AEK's co-efficient since they are "seeded" to get knocked out of Champions League and Put into UEFA Cup, so would discount Seville at the top. Either way it is unlikely to affect our grouping tonight as both are higher in the rankings than us and 1 will go through regardless.


When all teams that go out tonight are deleted from the list then the group pots can be added 123456788765432112345678 etc and groups more or less worked out. Only problem that MAY arise is swapping of couple of teams if groups come out with teams from same country in them that may face each other (i.e. Spanish side in seeds and non seeds but this again is unlikely)


By 10ish tonight we can be reasonably certain of the 5 teams we can get in the draw but NOT 100% certain!!


Seeded teams coef.

------------------------ --- -------

(Seville Esp 87.374 ***)

Villarreal Esp 78.374

Bayern München Ger 73.640

Ajax Ned 65.995

AZ Alkmaar Ned 63.995

Panathinaikos Gre 55.415

FC Basel ** Sui 54.869 U

RC Lens @ Fra 51.706 U

Girondins Bordeaux Fra 49.706

Bayer Leverkusen Ger 45.640

Club Brugge Bel 45.594

Palermo Ita 42.808

Anderlecht Bel 41.594

Tottenham Hotspur Eng 40.618

Real Zaragoza Esp 40.374

Rapid Bucuresti Rom 40.255

Lokomotiv Moscow Rus 38.920

Zenit St. Petersburg Rus 38.920 U

Sparta Praha Cze 37.851

FC Sochaux-Montbéliard Fra 36.706

Blackburn Rovers @ Eng 36.618 U

AEK Athens Gre 36.415 ***

Heerenveen Ned 35.995

Hamburger SV @ Ger 34.640 U

Dinamo Bucuresti Rom 34.255

Bolton Wanderers Eng 32.618

Austria Wien ** Aut 30.104 U

Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk ** Ukr 29.726 U

Sampdoria @ Ita 28.808 U

Spartak Moscow Rus 27.920

Sporting Braga Por 27.107

Galatasaray ** Tur 26.791 U

Getafe Esp 25.374

Atlético Madrid @ Esp 25.374 U

Everton Eng 24.618

Fiorentina Ita 21.808

Empoli Ita 21.808

Stade Rennais Fra 20.706

CSKA Sofia ** Bul 20.112 U

Hapoel Tel-Aviv ** Isr 19.338 U

Red Star Belgrade Srb 19.256

FC København Den 19.129

Litex Lovech * Bul 19.112 U

Toulouse FC Fra 17.706

Dinamo Zagreb Cro 17.533

Panionios Gre 16.415

União de Leiria @ Por 16.107 U

OB Odense * Den 15.129 U

FC Groningen Ned 14.995

1.FC Nürnberg Ger 14.640

Standard Liège ** Bel 14.594 U

Maccabi Tel-Aviv * Isr 14.338 U

CF Os Belenenses Por 14.107

Paços de Ferreira Por 14.107

Mladá Boleslav Cze 13.851


Petrzalka Bratislava * Svk 13.575 U

Aris Thessaloniki Gre 13.415

CFR Cluj ** Rom 13.255 U

Otelul Galati @ Rom 13.255 U

FC Twente Enschede Ned 12.995

Groclin Grodzisk * Pol 11.609 U

VÃ¥lerengen IF * Nor 11.509 U

Aberdeen Sco 11.064

Loko Sofia Bul 10.112 U

Rapid Wien @ Aut 10.104 U

Dunfermline Athletic ** Sco 10.064 U

FC Zürich Sui 9.869

Metalist Kharkiv Ukr 9.726

FC Midtjylland * Den 9.129 U

FC Salzburg Aut 9.104

FC Sion ** Sui 8.869 U

Erciyesspor Tur 8.791 U

FK Jablonec Cze 8.851 U

AE Larissa Gre 8.415

Young Boys * Sui 7.869 U

Hajduk split Cro 7.533 U

AaB Aalborg @ Den 7.129 U

Fredrikstad FK ** Nor 6.509 U

SK Brann Bergen * Nor 6.509 U

M Netanya Isr 6.338 U

Vojvodina Novi Sad * Srb 6.256 U

SV Ried * Aut 6.104 U

SV Mattersburg * Aut 6.104 U

GKS Belchatow * Pol 5.609 U

Anorthosis Famagusta Cyp 5.492 U

Honvéd Budapest * Hun 4.675 U

IF Elfsborg Swe 4.478

AIK Stockholm * Swe 4.478 U

FK Sarajevo Bos 4.190

Dinamo Tbilisi * Geo 4.035 U

FC Zlaté Moravce * Svk 3.575 U

Slaven Koprivnica Cro 3.533 U

Omonia Nicosia * Cyp 3.492 U

Helsingborg IF * Swe 3.478 U

Hammarby Swe 3.478 U

Hacken Swe 3.478 U

MyPa-47 * Fin 3.420 U

Zrinjski Mostar * Bos 3.190 U

Siroki Brijeg * Bos 3.190 U

Metalurgs Liepaja * Lat 2.860 U

Tampere United Fin 2.420

HJK Helsinki Fin 2.420 U

Ekranas Lit 2.420 U

Suduva Marijampole * Lit 2.420 U

Haka Valkeakoski Fin 2.420 U

Drogheda United * Irl 2.145 U

Rabotnicki Mac 1.925 U

BATE Borisov Bls 1.540

Dinamo Minsk * Bls 1.540 U

Besa Kavajë * Alb 1.265 U

Mika Ashtarak * Arm 1.155 U

Tobol Kustanai @ Kaz 0.770 U

Kaerjeng Lux 0.550 U


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Looking down the list there are some great potential trips in there. For selfish reasons would like any of the Romanian, Bulgarian or Russian teams as never been to these countries, any of the Spanish, Italian or Danish teams as I love visiting these countries and lastly any of the Czech teams as they are beatable.................... and the beer is the best in Europe.


Do not want to go to Iseral as expensive to get to or anyone from the Ukraine as its a dump and anywhere but Kiev is a pain in the arse to get to. However if we do get drawn in any of these places I will still try all possible means to get there.



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So we have the following;


Bayern Munich (Munich, Germany)


Club Brugge KV (Bruges, Belgium)


SC Heerenveen (Heerenveen, Holland)


FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine)


PFC CSKA Sofia (Sofia, Bulgaria)



Munich, with the 2nd leg away is my preferred option, but guess we'll just have to wait and see.......


Think we might be able to make a game of a couple of those, doesn't look over promising though!


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It would also depend if more than 1 team in the draw is from the same city and they are meant to play at home on the same night.


That should matter with our group should it?


I still don't like David Taylor.


This  is going to take ages like.


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