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McInnes & Docherty
« on: July 11, 2019, 12:02:13 PM »
Agree new deals until 2022.

Please delete thread if there's another one somewhere on the Forum, that I could have posted this on, couldn't find it if there is.


It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2019, 12:21:22 PM »
This'll set the cat up the hoops of the pigeons.

I suppose it is deserved. Milne trying desperately to avoid having to choose another manager in case he fucks it up like every other appointment.

Despite his detractors in this regard - and regardless of whether ye think he's worth it - McInnes has fairly shown a decent amount of commitment to the dons. He clearly enjoys being here.

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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2019, 12:52:02 PM »
For me personally, as obviously I don't speak for every Aberdeen supporter, I feel like it's a safe bet. He's steadied us, brought 1 Cup in 2014 and qualified for Europe every season.

The only way he can really be a " success " now is to actually deliver another domestic trophy or two and get into the group stages of Europe. In terms of the League, we should aiming to win it until it becomes mathematically impossible, I don't buy into the " Try and get 3rd " mantra that's been coming out of Pittodrie for the last few months.

Maybe someone could progress us further than McInnes, plays attacking, attractive football etc... Or maybe we'd get stuck in rut and regress further than we were in terms of last season.
It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2019, 01:02:20 PM »
Yes he has showed loyalty, but we aren't paying him peanuts. Having turned down sevco there's no other club in Scotland would get near to giving him the kind of salary we do. And I suspect his options in England are now limited at best having turned down Sunderland, albeit they were a total basket case at that point and aren't a whole lot better now. He won't really attract interest down there now by getting us third in the league and reaching but not winning cup finals.

A bit meh about this but not surprised.


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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2019, 02:03:58 PM »
Yes he has showed loyalty, but we aren't paying him peanuts. Having turned down sevco there's no other club in Scotland would get near to giving him the kind of salary we do. And I suspect his options in England are now limited at best having turned down Sunderland, albeit they were a total basket case at that point and aren't a whole lot better now. He won't really attract interest down there now by getting us third in the league and reaching but not winning cup finals.

A bit meh about this but not surprised.

Aye, yer right. Sunderland and der hun would easily match what we're paying him obviously, but his options are indeed limited. It's a bit of a rock and a hard place for any prospective AFC manager I suppose. It'd be a huge jump to get anywhere close to the Hun or Tim in spending power (to the point of bankruptcy) and so the base target for any manager is third with a high of 3rd and a cup (in terms of the realistic targets that could be placed on a manager). If he got to the Europa League then I expect a few might take note.

In terms of the League, we should aiming to win it until it becomes mathematically impossible, I don't buy into the " Try and get 3rd " mantra that's been coming out of Pittodrie for the last few months.

That's what the club will be aiming to do. The notion that we wouldn't be is ridiculous - we try and win every game, but we quite quickly lose points to the point it becomes mathematically impossible quite early (generally speaking). However, if the club produced an equivalent to their recent strategy document that said the aim was to be winning the league, what benefit would that produce? Would it make it more likely that we would win the league? Would we make McInnes and the players' bonuses contingent on winning the treble? Or would that just sow division and make the players perform worse? What exactly would the point be of setting a target of first place in front of the wider public?

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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2019, 10:32:50 PM »
Since the club is stuck with these two duds, thanks to the most poisonous dud dwarf of them all, the chairman, perhaps they might learn to change their ways?

Four of the goals in the Norwich Chelsea game currently on MOTD were scored by footballers 21 years old or younger. If the managers in the best league in the world aren't afraid of youth, what's their excuse?

Edit: Daniel James is also 21, scoring at Old Trafford and looking good. Unless you give youth a chance, you'll never know what they can do. But they need managed properly, their heads full of belief because of the confidence their manager gives them.

And 21 year old Harvey Barnes, subbed on by Brendan, scores a magnificent winner. The first by Vardy was set up by an exquisite pass by Maddison, a player who has been recognised by the England manager and who was speculated might be going to Man U. He was dropped by McInnes in his latter months. Perhaps he didn't fit into "our system"? Whatever the fuck that is.
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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2019, 04:22:29 PM »
It’s terrible that three games into our league season so many appear so unhappy yet we have people so supportive of DM. We are awful to watch, yesterday just showing (again) how limited our manager is in trying to get formation and tactics correct, playing players correctly, and getting the best collective performance from a team. What ratio/percentage of fans are unhappy? Is it just miserable cunts like me or a fair chunk of fans??

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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2019, 05:00:47 PM »
Don't think anyone is happy with the results and our eye-bleedingly awful style of play.

Plenty jumping on the "McInnes out" bus. Pretty pointless as with a 3 year contract and the ink not yet dry on it, he'd cost a fortune to dunt just by himself...…...never mind dunting his backroom staff on top. If the crowds dwindled to 6 or 7k on the back of our poor form continuing the board might just be forced to act but that is a long way off yet.

Can't see any English clubs coming calling any time soon (at least of a level that he would be interested in/could afford him). So our only hope is that he walks. If the fans turned against him vocally and consitantly over a period of time he might just consider his position (and accept a pay off that we could just about afford). But again that is a good bit off yet and if our form improves just won't be happening.

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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2019, 05:18:49 PM »
I don't get why employees who fail in their jobs get big pay-outs.

Ok, it's all down to the terms of each individual contract but who the fuck is negotiating the club into this death position? In the real world, useless fuckers get the bullet and a minimum amount to fuck off.
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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2019, 05:26:59 PM »
I don't get why employees who fail in their jobs get big pay-outs.

Ok, it's all down to the terms of each individual contract but who the fuck is negotiating the club into this death position? In the real world, useless fuckers get the bullet and a minimum amount to fuck off.

In the real world even useful fuckers get the bullet and a minimum amount to fuck off (As anyone who has experienced statutory redundancy pay will know)
Whatever muppet brought about the rules behind the Bosman rulling really did a number on the teams.
Seems the only way you can get sacked and get nothing is if you commit a criminal offence.
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Re: McInnes & Docherty
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2019, 05:32:55 PM »
I'm not totally familiar with the Bosman rules but I'm sure that if McInnes and his sidekick do get healthy fuck off money, it'll be more to do with the terms that Milne gave him more than anything else. To be fair, the club can't be seen as mercenary and a harsh employer but fuck me, this cunt of a manager isn't good enough to be employed at all, let alone for this long and certainly not for this type of money.
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