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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2018, 01:47:54 PM »
Are you disputing that how much he got paid is a matter of fact or are you demanding that I reveal the sources?

You obviously have some serious evidence that he was not paid that much.

By definition you're making a claim by stating something as fact without providing evidence. I'm not making a counter-claim. I don't disbelieve your claim but I do wonder what the reason is for your reluctance to post your proof?

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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2018, 02:19:57 PM »
By definition you're making a claim by stating something as fact without providing evidence. I'm not making a counter-claim. I don't disbelieve your claim but I do wonder what the reason is for your reluctance to post your proof?

I said he was paid 3/4 a million and two posters as good as said I was lying.

Now you butt in with a different angle. I never said I was reluctant to reveal my sources but in this debate, two posters have disputed that he was paid that. Manc said he couldn't imagine it but unlike the two, he didn't know. I think it's fair that we deal with the hostility first. At least others have discussed whether or not he's worth it. Two have flatly denied he was paid it. I want to know why they are so sure and why they tried to derail the debate?
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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2018, 02:30:01 PM »
I haven’t flatly denied anything.
All I have done is ask for the source of the fact but as usual you’ve been caught with your pants down.

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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2018, 02:55:34 PM »
I said he was paid 3/4 a million and two posters as good as said I was lying.

Now you butt in with a different angle. I never said I was reluctant to reveal my sources but in this debate, two posters have disputed that he was paid that. Manc said he couldn't imagine it but unlike the two, he didn't know. I think it's fair that we deal with the hostility first. At least others have discussed whether or not he's worth it. Two have flatly denied he was paid it. I want to know why they are so sure and why they tried to derail the debate?

I'd hardly call it "butting in". We're on a public forum; the whole point of which is to discuss and debate. As for the differing angle.. I'm not sure what the issue is with that. It almost sounds like you'd have preferred it if I too had as good as said you were lying. All you've got to do to "win" here is show that your claim is true and anyone who questioned your integrity will be own you an apology IMO.

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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2018, 04:14:07 PM »
I haven’t flatly denied anything.

What is McInnes paid then?
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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2018, 04:20:16 PM »
I'd hardly call it "butting in". We're on a public forum; the whole point of which is to discuss and debate. As for the differing angle.. I'm not sure what the issue is with that. It almost sounds like you'd have preferred it if I too had as good as said you were lying. All you've got to do to "win" here is show that your claim is true and anyone who questioned your integrity will be own you an apology IMO.

I gave information that many within AFC already know. If you don't know, that's not my concern.

As for the rude cunt who can't engage like a normal functioning human being - possibly because he's not - why should I satisfy him? Because he's got "global moderator" as his title? Would you engage with cunts like that?

You're not interested in the debate (of whether he's worth it or not). Your ONLY angle is to ask for "proof". What if I was unable or unwilling to? Does this mean I made it up, knowing full well that the actual proof is due out imminently and that it WILL become public knowledge shortly?
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2018, 04:53:50 PM »
All I have done is ask for the source of the fact but as usual you’ve been caught with your pants down.

Before you wrote "link" - no "please", just being the rude cunt that you are - you disputed what he got paid, which is a matter of fact, not opinion.

Now you say that I've been "caught with my pants down". This assumes that I am wrong... or are you assuming that I'm wrong because I didn't reveal my sources?

"As usual" implies that I make up shit all the time. Give me one example ever of a fabrication from me?

Then we might discuss why the ONLY exchange I ever get from both you and your arselicker is never to discuss debates but ONLY to seek confrontation? You're not really that sad are you?
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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2018, 05:45:28 PM »
What is McInnes paid then?

I’ve no idea but we get it, you can’t substantiate your “fact”.

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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2018, 05:52:36 PM »
Before you wrote "link" - no "please", just being the rude cunt that you are - you disputed what he got paid, which is a matter of fact, not opinion.

Now you say that I've been "caught with my pants down". This assumes that I am wrong... or are you assuming that I'm wrong because I didn't reveal my sources?

"As usual" implies that I make up shit all the time. Give me one example ever of a fabrication from me?

Then we might discuss why the ONLY exchange I ever get from both you and your arselicker is never to discuss debates but ONLY to seek confrontation? You're not really that sad are you?

A fact is something that has been (not will be) proven to be true. I am not disputing it, I was merely looking for the evidence to prove that it is true, as it’s obviously not in the accounts as they don’t have that level of transparency.

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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2018, 06:49:36 PM »
A fact is something that has been (not will be) proven to be true. I am not disputing it, I was merely looking for the evidence to prove that it is true, as it’s obviously not in the accounts as they don’t have that level of transparency.

Listen up you insulting cunt. It IS a a matter of fact what he got paid, irrespective as to the timing as to when YOU find out.

You have already disputed it... on this thread. And you can fucking whistle for my two sources, ten months apart. I didn't post it when I first heard but having had this corroborated by an equally qualified source, I was just asking the question as to whether he was worth it but you and your arselicker have totally derailed the thread.

Now will you answer the questions as to what else I have fabricated and why you continuousy seek confrontation with ad hominem attacks? I can't help my thinking you're a boring knob. You never post anything worth reading, it's nothing personal. Go fuck yourself.
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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2018, 08:05:15 PM »
Listen up you insulting cunt. It IS a a matter of fact what he got paid, irrespective as to the timing as to when YOU find out.

You have already disputed it... on this thread. And you can fucking whistle for my two sources, ten months apart. I didn't post it when I first heard but having had this corroborated by an equally qualified source, I was just asking the question as to whether he was worth it but you and your arselicker have totally derailed the thread.

Now will you answer the questions as to what else I have fabricated and why you continuousy seek confrontation with ad hominem attacks? I can't help my thinking you're a boring knob. You never post anything worth reading, it's nothing personal. Go fuck yourself.

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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2018, 04:42:23 AM »
I said he was paid 3/4 a million and two posters as good as said I was lying.

Now you butt in with a different angle. I never said I was reluctant to reveal my sources but in this debate, two posters have disputed that he was paid that. Manc said he couldn't imagine it but unlike the two, he didn't know. I think it's fair that we deal with the hostility first. At least others have discussed whether or not he's worth it. Two have flatly denied he was paid it. I want to know why they are so sure and why they tried to derail the debate?

You are barking mad, which is a good reason not to believe you. But, I never said you were lying or even suggested you were lying, so by saying I called you a liar, you have essentially just lied. Maybe your sources are wrong, for example.

Secondly, I did offer an opinion on whether McInnes was worth 750k. You said I didn't. So you were wrong again.

It's hard to believe you when you're wrong so often. Poor.
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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2018, 08:06:39 AM »
Listen up you insulting cunt.


 ::) I don't even know where to start with this.

I'm no Kow sympathiser by any means but Rocket, few (if any) are ruder, more negative or more insulting (and often downright aggressive) than you. Now that is a fact that no one is in any doubt about. But just in case.. here's the evidence for all to see: www.donstalk.co.uk

You obviously recognise the difference between an online forum and face to face social interactions. If you didn't and you spoke to folk like this you'd get smacked in the mouth on a very regular basis but yet you seem to let Donstalk wind you up a lot. Why? What are you getting out of it?
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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2018, 05:59:49 PM »
You are barking mad, which is a good reason not to believe you.

 :laughing: :thumbsup:

Thank you for lightening the situation. I don't disagree with you in broad terms but it needs precise definition of course. It's mad to vote Tory (like the North East did), it's mad to believe the media (like the vast majority do) and it's mad to not see how useless McInnes is  ;D

But, I never said you were lying or even suggested you were lying, so by saying I called you a liar, you have essentially just lied. Maybe your sources are wrong, for example.

You need to read wot u wroted to know that's not true.

Secondly, I did offer an opinion on whether McInnes was worth 750k. You said I didn't. So you were wrong again.

It's hard to believe you when you're wrong so often. Poor.

I didn't say that you hadn't offered opinion. You're reading into it the wrong way and taking stuff out of context, unsurprisingly when the little tit jumped in and you guys are all responding to posts addressed to others. Stand free ye fucking cunt.
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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2018, 08:52:18 PM »
I've held off replying to this topic again, as it got me thinking and certainly didn't want recent results to blur my thought process.

Overall, yes, he's been worth it. The transformation around the club is there for all to see. From top to bottom, things run a lot smoother and it feels like a professionally run club. Yes there are things I've disagreed with, but they're never going to get everything right.

However, if he is / was paid that much?  He's certainly not shown he's worth that and the huns will certainly be feeling the better out of the parties. We haven't had the trophy return to justify that sum, despite our hatred of them. Hopefully he rectifies that this season

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« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2018, 08:56:43 PM »
he has stabilised and reached his ceiling if we cannot lay a glove on them tmw without morelos and lafferty then hes done
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« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2018, 09:45:24 PM »
he has stabilised and reached his ceiling if we cannot lay a glove on them tmw without morelos and lafferty then hes done

With the fans for sure....

With Milne... well he might pay attention with a few home crowds of 8k or less but I still believe the only way DM wont be in post at season's end is if he walks

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Re: McInnes. Worth it?
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2018, 09:54:00 PM »
With the fans for sure....

With Milne... well he might pay attention with a few home crowds of 8k or less but I still believe the only way DM wont be in post at season's end is if he walks

Ipswich Town job up for grabs just now, possibly the sort of job he'd be looking for.
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« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2018, 12:13:28 AM »
Ipswich Town job up for grabs just now, possibly the sort of job he'd be looking for.

Paul Lambert being appointed Ipswich boss tomorrow.

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« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2018, 12:21:41 AM »
Paul Lambert being appointed Ipswich boss tomorrow.

Will be up again in two weeks then.
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