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Offline RicoS321

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« Reply #780 on: November 14, 2019, 09:03:36 AM »
The forthcoming General Election is depressing for a number of reasons.

Mostly, it's because all the parties and politicians are shite.

Also, the electorate are fucking imbeciles.

And to complete the tragedy, the media are totally corrupt.

But we know all that. Yet there will be very clear manifesto differences this time around and two demonstrably different parties alongside the SNP offering an independence referendum (as much as they possibly can anyway). All under the Brexit sideshow of course. That said, there's nothing remotely interesting about it all. It always amazes me how a system's (democracy) representatives can be so removed, and so unwilling to discuss, the needs of humans (constituents) and how best to provide those in the most efficient and permanent fashion. The whole affair is being allowed to be discussed in the sudo-religion of economics and a capitalist faith based system. That's a very narrow interpretation of democracy.




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« Reply #781 on: November 14, 2019, 12:50:02 PM »
We don't ALL know that the majority of us are imbeciles. I don't think Corbyn is worshipping at the altar of the pseudo faith of capitalism either. Anyone is free to offer a new system and stand for election too.
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Re: DT Politics Thread
« Reply #782 on: November 14, 2019, 01:36:04 PM »
We don't ALL know that the majority of us are imbeciles. I don't think Corbyn is worshipping at the altar of the pseudo faith of capitalism either. Anyone is free to offer a new system and stand for election too.

They can offer a new system, but it must be described in the terms of the existing system. I'm criticising the boundaries of the debate. Even the environmentalists have adopted the terms of the system to discuss their policies.

Corbyn's policies are all capitalist offerings, but not neo-liberal or free market and with some socialist trappings such as state run rail system.

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« Reply #783 on: November 14, 2019, 02:07:55 PM »
Not sure I understand. Anyone can stand for whatever agenda they're selling whether it's communism, some Marxist ideology, the "all property is theft" party or for free beer and drugs.

I don't think it's impossible for society to function properly "within the boundaries of the current debate". It's not so much the system itself that fails us but the arseholes who are exercising power. They're more interested in self rather than providing leadership for the common good, not that they even understand what that might entail.
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Re: DT Politics Thread
« Reply #784 on: November 15, 2019, 09:09:12 AM »
Labour's gimmick of offering free internet is as left field as it is stupid. Do they honestly think that by each household saving a few hundred quid on this is going to get them enough votes? Have they done the maths? Who's funding the billions it will actually cost?

I fear this is more evidence of Corbyn's unfitness for leadership. He doesn't understand business and doesn't know what day of the week it is. I'm dying to vote Labour for the first time but will no doubt go SNP again, even though I don't like Sturgeon either. At least she's better than Salmond, who repulses me.

The defeating of the Tories must be the national priority just now. Followed by the exposure and dismantling of the "big press". Their demonisation of Corbyn from day one and their bias has been as revealing as it has been a disgrace.
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« Reply #785 on: November 15, 2019, 12:39:11 PM »
If Labour got in on a majority by themselves (more chance of us signing Cristiano Ronaldo) they'd bankrupt the country in short order. Whacking extra taxes on the top 5% of earners just won't go far enough to cover all their madcap spending. Free internet for all actually seems one of their better ideas.....but I think most folk these days get their internet as part of a package along with their telephone and TV services. The private companies would take their pay off for the internet...….then within a few months at most just fire on an increase in costs to the customer for the remaining TV and phone service.

There is a small chance they could get in by forming a coalition with the SNP/Lib Dems/Plaid Cymru and various smaller parties/independents. Fuck that. Corbyn as Prime Minister is bad enough. Throw in Emily Thornberry as Foreign Secretary, Diane Abbot as Home Secretary (surely they wouldn't??) and Rebecca Fucking-Long-Fucking Bailey as anything other than sticking stamps on envelopes......just makes a Tory administration seem a relatively sensible option. But it seems the only way of getting Indyref 2 on the cards in a fairly short amount of time. So hold on to your noses and pray that Farage's ensemble of fuckwits split the Tory vote in Labour marginals down south.


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« Reply #786 on: November 15, 2019, 12:56:31 PM »
If Labour got in on a majority by themselves (more chance of us signing Cristiano Ronaldo) they'd bankrupt the country in short order. Whacking extra taxes on the top 5% of earners just won't go far enough to cover all their madcap spending. Free internet for all actually seems one of their better ideas.....but I think most folk these days get their internet as part of a package along with their telephone and TV services. The private companies would take their pay off for the internet...….then within a few months at most just fire on an increase in costs to the customer for the remaining TV and phone service.

There is a small chance they could get in by forming a coalition with the SNP/Lib Dems/Plaid Cymru and various smaller parties/independents. Fuck that. Corbyn as Prime Minister is bad enough. Throw in Emily Thornberry as Foreign Secretary, Diane Abbot as Home Secretary (surely they wouldn't??) and Rebecca Fucking-Long-Fucking Bailey as anything other than sticking stamps on envelopes......just makes a Tory administration seem a relatively sensible option. But it seems the only way of getting Indyref 2 on the cards in a fairly short amount of time. So hold on to your noses and pray that Farage's ensemble of fuckwits split the Tory vote in Labour marginals down south.


Please to be explaining? ??? Is that not already the case? The Tories are well on their way to trebling the national debt and they've been in power circa 9 years during which we've seen nothing but austerity. Are we not being bankrupted already? Labour might have big spending plans but I'm pretty sure Javid announced some of the Tories' own too. At least Labour would be more likely to hold corporations to account for their dodgy tax avoiding practices. I'm no fan of Labour and for as long as I'm registered to vote in Scotland I'll never be able to vote for them (or any other unionist party) but when it comes down to a straight choice between the two not-so-great options of Boris and Jeremy it's a fucking no-brainer. I can't think of one single scenario of leadership or being the PM that I'd prefer Boris over Jeremy.

Even if it's just to get it up the brain dead idiots that bleat on about how he's "dangerous" or a "terrorist".  ::) ::)

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« Reply #787 on: November 15, 2019, 01:40:47 PM »
Please to be explaining? ???

Don't expect a sensible answer. He's regurgitating what the press regurgitate. He's not clever enough to distinguish between propaganda and lies. He believes what he's told. As we might expect given his proven racism against Muslim people.
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« Reply #788 on: November 15, 2019, 01:43:37 PM »
Don't expect a sensible answer. He's regurgitating what the press regurgitate. He's not clever enough to distinguish between propaganda and lies. He believes what he's told. As we might expect given his proven racism against Muslim people.


And what proven racism against Muslims would that be???

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« Reply #789 on: November 15, 2019, 01:51:55 PM »

And what proven racism against Muslims would that be???

Did you selectively forget your posts when we were discussing the Balkans and migration issues?

I know Rico also objected to your filth.
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« Reply #790 on: November 15, 2019, 03:00:33 PM »
Did you selectively forget your posts when we were discussing the Balkans and migration issues?

I know Rico also objected to your filth.

I don't remember actually. But whilst I certainly have grave reservations about migration I most certainly am not racist and will thank you to withdraw your allegation

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« Reply #791 on: November 15, 2019, 03:41:02 PM »
I don't remember actually. But whilst I certainly have grave reservations about migration I most certainly am not racist and will thank you to withdraw your allegation

It's not possible. For a start it wasn't an allegation. It was a fact (that you posted disgusting racism).

You can disclaim or claim whatever you like. For all I know, you used to be a racist 2 or 3 months ago and now you're not.
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Re: DT Politics Thread
« Reply #792 on: November 15, 2019, 04:30:47 PM »

Please to be explaining? ??? Is that not already the case? The Tories are well on their way to trebling the national debt and they've been in power circa 9 years during which we've seen nothing but austerity. Are we not being bankrupted already? Labour might have big spending plans but I'm pretty sure Javid announced some of the Tories' own too. At least Labour would be more likely to hold corporations to account for their dodgy tax avoiding practices. I'm no fan of Labour and for as long as I'm registered to vote in Scotland I'll never be able to vote for them (or any other unionist party) but when it comes down to a straight choice between the two not-so-great options of Boris and Jeremy it's a fucking no-brainer. I can't think of one single scenario of leadership or being the PM that I'd prefer Boris over Jeremy.

Even if it's just to get it up the brain dead idiots that bleat on about how he's "dangerous" or a "terrorist".  ::) ::)

Unusually spot on, on all points  :o ;D

Think we’re heading for a hung parliament hopefully the opposition can cobble something together to oust the Tories from government.

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« Reply #793 on: November 15, 2019, 04:44:26 PM »
 "Rebecca Fucking-Long-Fucking Bailey"


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« Reply #794 on: November 15, 2019, 08:19:49 PM »
Think we’re heading for a hung parliament hopefully the opposition can cobble something together to oust the Tories from government.
I really don't think we are. I was out canvassing yesterday, and the number of tory v Snp utterly shocked me. Not just that but all day I got one Lib-Dem, and one lifelong Labour voter who doesn't know who he's voting for but it 100% won't be Labour.

Now Deeside is hardly representative of the whole constituemcy, nor the country, but it shocked me how out of kilter compared to current polls support for the Tories was, and indeed how absolutely nowhere the two also ran parties were

This is gonna be the most interesting GE in our lifetime.

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« Reply #795 on: November 15, 2019, 08:23:23 PM »
Please tell me you're making shit up?

You canvassing? Who would be persuaded by the likes of you? What cause is so desperate they would want someone like you representing them? The world's gone fucking mad.
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« Reply #796 on: November 15, 2019, 08:33:16 PM »
I really don't think we are.

The only guarantee of the upcoming abortion is that it will be a hung parliament.

But since you work in politics, you obviously know best.

Since you have form for avoiding questions, I won't lose sleep when you further fail to back up the stupidity of your worthless opinion.
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Re: DT Politics Thread
« Reply #797 on: November 15, 2019, 08:40:08 PM »
*Rocket doesn't understand canvassing  :rofl:

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« Reply #798 on: November 15, 2019, 08:42:12 PM »
The only guarantee of the upcoming abortion is that it will be a hung parliament.

But since you work in politics, you obviously know best.

Since you have form for avoiding questions, I won't lose sleep when you further fail to back up the stupidity of your worthless opinion.
I don't work in politics you absolute melter  :rofl:

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« Reply #799 on: November 16, 2019, 06:47:16 PM »
*Rocket doesn't understand canvassing  :rofl:

Do you do it on behalf of anyone, or were you just asking for your own info? Not a surprise about deeside, they love a tory.