Guest BTR Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 People may talk about the transfer fees being over-inflated or under-valued, but I was reliably informed recently about the mechanics of one or two transfer dealings and the examples I was given kind of prove the logic of them is actually pretty straightforward. In basic terms, certain selling clubs can now easily argue (especially if a player is moving to the Premiership) that a player's value is equal to that of the contract they are likely to be offered by the buying club, or in other words, the more the buying club are willing to pay a player, the more valuable he is to them. It's kind of backed up by these examples (in rough terms): 2yr contract @ £10k a week (£500k pa) = £1m Russell Anderson 4yr contract @ £20k a week (£1m pa) = £4m Scott Brown 5yr contract @ £33k a week (£1.6m pa) = £8m Alan Hutton I found it pretty interesting as a way of trying to get some tangibility out of transfer values. By definition, if AFC are only ever willing to pay a player £2k a week (£100k pa) on a 3-year contract, then £300k is the max value we'd ever place on a player, yet because we're skint, it's unlikely we'll pay that for a while and we'll rely on free transfers and loan signings. By the same token, I see WBA are ready to offer Hearts £2m for Roman Bednar. Scored a few goals for them, yes, but personally I wouldn't rate him a £2m striker. But because Hearts are likely to be paying him pretty good wages (let's for arguement's sake say £10k a week), he can thus negotiate a similar deal at WBA - if he signs a 4yr deal at £10k a week, Hearts can value him at £2m. SImilar happened with Craig Gordon and this is how Mad Vlad sees HMFC being a big "selling club". It's the speculate to accumulate philosophy. Can't see the Dons catching on anytime soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Hearts can "afford to pay" those kinds of wages. I'm glad we can't/don't though the level of the board's aspirations and willingness to support the manager financially is without doubt questionable at best. I would also doubt if Brown is on 20k per week but I guess you never know given the competition for his signature at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggy89 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Maybe explains why you see so many Undisclosed Fee's nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BTR Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Wouldn't dream of speculating how much they'll be on at Plymouth & Preston, but it may also explain how we managed to hold out for a fee for Clark & Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Hearts can "afford to pay" those kinds of wages. I'm glad we can't/don't though the level of the board's aspirations and willingness to support the manager financially is without doubt questionable at best. I would also doubt if Brown is on 20k per week but I guess you never know given the competition for his signature at the time. Only for about 2 seasons when their turnover to wage ratio sits at 95% odds or there about. But if this is true we should get Mackie on a £10K per week contract and get him punted for big bucks in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Only for about 2 seasons when their turnover to wage ratio sits at 95% odds or there about. But if this is true we should get Mackie on a £10K per week contract and get him punted for big bucks in the summer. Hence why it was in inverted commas. It seems unsustainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonefish100 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 This speculate to accumulate policy would only work if 2 things happened: 1) We played an attractive style of football (or be precieved to) which utilised our players in there best positions allowing them to actually show what they can do (a la Hibs) 2) Get the subsequent media hype about how great our players are (again a la Hibs) We wont get decent money for any of our players otherwise. We made the last 32 of the UEFA cup for fuck sake, and we only got a couple of hundred grand for one of our best defenders!! Oh and getting contract renewals sorted out before 30th December might help too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowie Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Oh and getting contract renewals sorted out before 30th December might help too. Fully agree with that.... Based on my extensive experience in FM (), contracts should be sorted out at the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajja Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Those figures would only suggest that a player is worth their 'net worth'. In the way that a business has a base net worth on the basis of its real wealth. However, if you sell your business it has other value based on goodwill accrued or brand power etc. These intangibles add value and cannot be discarded for a business, product or a football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Any Dons players got brand power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinburghdon Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Any Dons players got brand power? Rchard forster? Lee Miller? Josh Walker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Darren Mackie? Derek Young? Neil McVitie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinburghdon Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Lovell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dundee_red Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Calderwood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Jon Smith? Stuart Duff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie's ace! Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Lovell? Apparently, Lovell Homes offices are next to Miller Homes somewhere in Weegieland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinburghdon Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Apparently, Lovell Homes offices are next to Miller Homes somewhere in Weegieland. A very rare site indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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