chunk Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Following JC's comments on Richie filling Russel's boots, it got me thinking. Ok, he's not the composed, calm positionally aware defender that Cadger was, but he is a big brute of a cunt - how many folk have been saying we need one of those? Also, I have heard numerous people over the last couple of seasons say they thought bid Dick's best position would be centre-half. Stick him in their next to a ball player like Karim and you might have a solid partnership. Or you might just have a big Irish diddy and a Dutchman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 If I saw Byrne starting a game I would have to go to the toilets and empty my bowels before the game as I would fear I may shit myself during the game watching him at the heart of defense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Byrne is not good to enough to play at Aberdeen in any position. JC even tries to praise this balloon for being clumsey in an article in the P&J. Byrne would be a red card waiting to happen at centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 So we're going for big Irish diddy then? Was really just trying to get into Calderwood's head on this one and see where he's coming from, and that's the only explanation I can come up with, and it does explain why we have never bought a hulking big centre back in the close season, especially as I think JC believes we need one. Was the boy he tried to get from the Pars not a bit of a bruiser? (was it Shields? I can't remember) Anyway, I tend to agree that it's a fucking stupid idea, but almost, just for a second there, I thought I had maybe got to grips with how the tombola works..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfromsleep Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Always said that 'if', and thats a big 'if', Byrne HAS to play, he'd be of best use up front to get him as far away from our goal as possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Mambo Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 He could be the new Brewster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Peru Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 i've got nae idea why he'd be anywhere near the team at all, to be honest. considering we've got diamond, considine, mair, touzani and jackie mac who can all play there (and that's nae even counting severin), byrne shouldn't even be anywhere near the bench, never mind given a starting slot. i shuddered when i read that jc's comments the day too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 considering we've got diamond, considine, mair, touzani and jackie mac who can all play there (and that's nae even counting severin) This is why I think the 'Thug' factor is the only possible reason for the orange one's haverings. None of these guys - while some are strong and athletic - are 'hard' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewsome Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Bobo Balde Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Peru Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Bobo Balde Anyone? you got forty grand a week burning a hole in yer pocket min? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewsome Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Bobo Balde Anyone? you got forty grand a week burning a hole in yer pocket min? Got a milion from the Anderson transfer... OK maybe not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbadteacher Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 For certain games there's a bit of methinks Ritchi "might" do well at the back. If we're up against some brutal clogging forward (Lee McCulloch, say, judging on Tuesday) I think he'd be immense, however against any small skillful pcacey forward I'd be sh*tting bricks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewsome Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 A valid observation MBT, I wonder if we might have a situation at the back like we do up front, 1 dimensional players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepheid Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Can't see how we have one dimensional players at the back?!? IMO, they're all different: Hart - pace and usually reads the game well. Touzani - no pace but good positioning and more of a natural ball player. Considine - Height and strength and I think in time, he'll show that he can pass a ball too. Sometimes doesn't read the game well (but think it'll come with time). Diamond - May not be as reliable as Russ and gets caught out of position a bit but has heart and is willing to get wired in. McNamara - reads the game very well and has a wealth of experience. is a little light weight. Byrne - Not quick, not a ball player but will never shirk a chanllenge (sometimes he probably should!) Never really seen Mair play so can't comment. I think in time, the defence will be ok. To me, JC biggest problem is what formation to play and who to play as his 'first' choice defenders. We all want a dedicated right back and dedicated left back and Russell back but for what we actually have I think there's a good enough variety there to make the defence work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Mambo Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 I've got an idea. Why not play Severin at the back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reekie_Red Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Can't see how we have one dimensional players at the back?!? IMO, they're all different: Hart - pace and usually reads the game well. Touzani - no pace but good positioning and more of a natural ball player. Considine - Height and strength and I think in time, he'll show that he can pass a ball too. Sometimes doesn't read the game well (but think it'll come with time). Diamond - May not be as reliable as Russ and gets caught out of position a bit but has heart and is willing to get wired in. McNamara - reads the game very well and has a wealth of experience. is a little light weight. Byrne - Not quick, not a ball player but will never shirk a chanllenge (sometimes he probably should!) Never really seen Mair play so can't comment. And our forwards arenae really one-dimensional either. Admittedly, we're missing a real tall target-man. But effective and tall targetmen are already on decent wages with other clubs. But what we've got ain't bad at all: Brewster: old and slow, but has a phenomenal footballing brain on him, and knows where the back of the net is Mackie: quick as fuck, and a bit of an opportunist. Not that intelligent though Lovell: clinical. Probably the most naturally gifted striker we have. Quite strong too Miller: Good close control. Inconsistent though Maguire: not fortunate enough to have seen this boy yet. Maybe someone else can comment I don't think the problem is really with our personnel. I think it's more to do with where they are positioned around the park. I mean, defenders in midfield, and midfielders in defence. WTF? Those choices are all down to one man. If you've trained for years to be competent in a particular role, and then all of a sudden your boss says "right, today we're gonna put you into a different department", you're not exactly gonna take to it like a duck to water, are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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