19afc03 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Headline from todays EE ... It may be correct, but I am assuming that Drew means the season can be saved if DM "Foxtrots Oscar" and free's up some cash allowing us to sign someone who can score goals. STAND FREE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 We need to give a combination of either Mackie/Wright/Paton a chance up front. Bebo and Miller are not hitting a cow's arse with a banjo currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBiscuit Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Mackie deserves a chance. Fair play to him, he's not moaned in the press about not getting a chance lately and it must be frustrating for him watching the guys playing in his position not producing it. Even more frustrating is that he was dropped for less. If it doesn't come off, then fair enough, but the guys who are not producing the goods have to realise there are consequences to them not performing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 He reckons McGhee can turn Mackie into a decent striker by teaching him how to make best use of his pace. Shouldn't this have been done 10 years ago? I'd rather give someone like Paton or Maguire a shot through the middle instead of sticking them out wide. Hopefully the reported signings of O'Brien and Marshall will help this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19afc03 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hopefully the reported signings of O'Brien and Marshall will help this. Pray tell where did you hear this good news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Mackie deserves a chance. Fair play to him, he's not moaned in the press about not getting a chance lately and it must be frustrating for him watching the guys playing in his position not producing it. Even more frustrating is that he was dropped for less. If it doesn't come off, then fair enough, but the guys who are not producing the goods have to realise there are consequences to them not performing. Surely had enough chances to prove himself in the last 10 years. Time for him to be moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggy89 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 At the minute we're not scoring. While Mackie may not be a very good player, he has in the past proved himself to be good for a goal every two games, approximately (regardless of the sitters he misses). If he can get his confidence back and with the specialist coaching McGhee should be able to provide, I see no reason why he cannot achieve that again. At the end of the day we have no money so the management should be making the best of the resources at their disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBiscuit Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Surely had enough chances to prove himself in the last 10 years. Time for him to be moved on. I generally agree, but do we just stick with the impotent strikeforce at present because Mackie's had 10 years at the club and should be moved on? He gets a wage from the club, and will get a wage until he is moved on so we might as well give him the opportunity to earn it, as we've given the opportunity to Miller and Maguire and generally speaking they're stealing a wage from us. We can't move him on in December and the "strikers" need to know they're not undroppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 McGhee must not rate Mackie at all as even Tommy Wright comes on as a sub in front of him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I generally agree, but do we just stick with the impotent strikeforce at present because Mackie's had 10 years at the club and should be moved on? He gets a wage from the club, and will get a wage until he is moved on so we might as well give him the opportunity to earn it, as we've given the opportunity to Miller and Maguire and generally speaking they're stealing a wage from us. We can't move him on in December and the "strikers" need to know they're not undroppable. Do not disagree about Mcguire or Miller but we already know form most of the past 10 years evidence that Mackie will fail to score as well. Would rather we went with Paton through the middle than have to suffer more games watching Mackie miss the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Do not disagree about Mcguire or Miller but we already know form most of the past 10 years evidence that Mackie will fail to score as well. Would rather we went with Paton through the middle than have to suffer more games watching Mackie miss the goal. What, one up front? I'd give Mackie and Paton a go up front, and agree with BB's post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowdon Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I'd like Paton to start up front as well. If we get a bit of cover out wide then Paton should be starting as a striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_min Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I'd like to see Aluko playing upfront, as he appears to have fuck all interest in playing out wide this season, and he seems a pretty handy striker anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 soo.....Aluko and Paton up front? I'd be satisfied if we gave that a go. Mackie needs to go, he's done F-all for the 10 years he's been here, its not going to change. And before you start, I know he scored a couple of important goals, but you can't live off that for the whole of your career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 ...yet some people tell us we should live off Miller because he's a target man who doesn't get the right service. I've been saying it for years - LMGTF (or LMAO as the kids say - or maybe it was LMFO) We can't afford better - do "we deserve better"? I will say this, I used to be of that same opinion (that he didn't get the right service) but I've now seen too many inept performances that he has to shoulder the blame. I know quite an outrageous comparison, but look at Rooney, he comes back and is a true grafter and brings others into play. We see non of that with Miller. When he's fired up, he is fantastic, no doubt about it, but these performances are few and far between. He has stagnated, and it appears there is nothing any manager can do about it, because they clearly don't have the balls to drop/subsititute him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reekie_Red Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 When he's fired up, he is fantastic, no doubt about it, but these performances are few and far between When he's in the mood, he's brilliant. His performance vs Rangers was incredible. He took his goal pretty well. But I didn't count a single ball that came near him that he didn't win. And his general play and positioning was a joy to watch, testing the laws of the game and generally being a real handful for the Rangers defence. But we see this Lee Miller far too rarely. He reminds me in a way of Robbie Winters. When he was on fire, Winters was devastating, one of the best strikers in the country with blistering pace and an unstoppable shot. But we only really saw this Robbie Winters when he was putting himself in the shop window. This is the same for pretty much every striker w've had in the past 15-16 years, bar Stavrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 When he's in the mood, he's brilliant. His performance vs Rangers was incredible. He took his goal pretty well. But I didn't count a single ball that came near him that he didn't win. And his general play and positioning was a joy to watch, testing the laws of the game and generally being a real handful for the Rangers defence. But we see this Lee Miller far too rarely. He reminds me in a way of Robbie Winters. When he was on fire, Winters was devastating, one of the best strikers in the country with blistering pace and an unstoppable shot. But we only really saw this Robbie Winters when he was putting himself in the shop window. This is the same for pretty much every striker w've had in the past 15-16 years, bar Stavrum. Agree 100%. Pisses me off knowing what he's capable of and seeing the crap Lee Miller we see all too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggy89 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 When he's in the mood, he's brilliant. His performance vs Rangers was incredible. He took his goal pretty well. But I didn't count a single ball that came near him that he didn't win. And his general play and positioning was a joy to watch, testing the laws of the game and generally being a real handful for the Rangers defence. But we see this Lee Miller far too rarely. He reminds me in a way of Robbie Winters. When he was on fire, Winters was devastating, one of the best strikers in the country with blistering pace and an unstoppable shot. But we only really saw this Robbie Winters when he was putting himself in the shop window. This is the same for pretty much every striker w've had in the past 15-16 years, bar Stavrum. Maybe that's the trick, we need to find a mercenary like Stavrum who (I would say) considered himself permanently in the shop window. Then again I remember the abuse Stavrum used to get for being lazy and constantly offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reekie_Red Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I'd happily have a lazy, constantly offside mercenary like Stavrum playing up front who scores 17 goals in 28 league games, than a lazy, constantly off-form avid Dons fan like Mackie playing up front who is only really remembered for two goals that he scored 2-and-a-half years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggy89 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I'd happily have a lazy, constantly offside mercenary like Stavrum playing up front who scores 17 goals in 28 league games, than a lazy, constantly off-form avid Dons fan like Mackie playing up front who is only really remembered for two goals that he scored 2-and-a-half years ago. Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Amen Reekie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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