Reekie_Red Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 So, we're pretty much riding high for the first January since forever. The only stain on our immaculate shirt is Hamilton. Jimmy is being linked with relatively big jobs down south and overseas (the Utrecht job, especially, would interest him, what with his love for everything Dutch). Mackie's being linked with a move. Miller's being linked with a move. Should we cash in? With the debt down to 6million-ish, I reckon now is as good a time as any to really cash in. Let's face it, Aberdeen will not progress whilst this horrible noose of debt is hanging around our necks. Having a club paying hefty bucks for JC and Lee Miller (both have about two-and-a-half years left on their respective contracts) could probably clean our financial slate and then some. Part of me wants to sell them to the highest bidder and get rid of the debt. Why? Because I still have these horrible nightmares about the ridiculous-money bids that were being talked about when Mackie, McNaughton, McGuire and Anderson were breaking through. And what did we get for them lads? Next to nothing, considering their talent (well, Anderson and McNaughton anyway). I don't want us sitting in a relegation dog-fight in two years time, still fielding those players who will invariably decide to want away at the end of their contract and us collect 75k for them. I'd rather collect the megabucks NOW whilst they're hot property. However, part of me doesn't want them to go. That part of me wants the team to stay together, along with the manager and us clear the debt the other way ... with success on the pitch and regular runs in Europe. What say you? Do we sell now and make the most of the players' values whilst they're hot property? Or do we hold onto them, running the risk that they could either take us intae Europe again, or could turn out to be absolutely Derek Whyte and stumble to a top-six finish and leave for nowt at the end of the 2010/11 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboisared Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 So, we're pretty much riding high for the first January since forever. The only stain on our immaculate shirt is Hamilton. Jimmy is being linked with relatively big jobs down south and overseas (the Utrecht job, especially, would interest him, what with his love for everything Dutch). Mackie's being linked with a move. Miller's being linked with a move. Should we cash in? With the debt down to 6million-ish, I reckon now is as good a time as any to really cash in. Let's face it, Aberdeen will not progress whilst this horrible noose of debt is hanging around our necks. Having a club paying hefty bucks for JC and Lee Miller (both have about two-and-a-half years left on their respective contracts) could probably clean our financial slate and then some. Part of me wants to sell them to the highest bidder and get rid of the debt. Why? Because I still have these horrible nightmares about the ridiculous-money bids that were being talked about when Mackie, McNaughton, McGuire and Anderson were breaking through. And what did we get for them lads? Next to nothing, considering their talent (well, Anderson and McNaughton anyway). I don't want us sitting in a relegation dog-fight in two years time, still fielding those players who will invariably decide to want away at the end of their contract and us collect 75k for them. I'd rather collect the megabucks NOW whilst they're hot property. However, part of me doesn't want them to go. That part of me wants the team to stay together, along with the manager and us clear the debt the other way ... with success on the pitch and regular runs in Europe. What say you? Do we sell now and make the most of the players' values whilst they're hot property? Or do we hold onto them, running the risk that they could either take us intae Europe again, or could turn out to be absolutely Derek Whyte and stumble to a top-six finish and leave for nowt at the end of the 2010/11 season? No because when we play and ebat the Huns next week we will only be 10 points behind them. They'll sell Boyd, no more goals and we'll finish second. Qualify for the champions League group stages and clear the debt. Stay positive dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I wouldn't sell anything. Unless someone comes in with ridiculous (desperate) offers of cold hard cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajja Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Keep team together and push for another European run. Even a few ties and a big draw against a German side can net you a cool million clams. While I can see your sense in selling up and clearing debt, I'm not so sure that rubbing that out will make huge changes to how we compete in future. Football is going to go through big changes soon and the financial aspects of clubs will see a sea change. Lets make hay today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I wouldn't sell anything. Unless someone comes in with ridiculous (desperate) offers of cold hard cash. Agreed..... not nit picking but Miller only has eighteen mnoths left on his contract though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Completely agree. I don't want this team to be broken up. They are starting to play well and actually win, what sort of ambition is that to break up a team that we've been praying for for years! Yes its not always great, but they've provided us with many highs. I think it would be a tremendous shot in the foot, unless, as TF says, it was silly money. Anyway, second spot, here we come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Agree with funster (yes I do feel unclean) that would only sell if someone came in with an offer that was to good to turn down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowdon Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I agree completely although our current form/position whilst good, could actually be better. If we had seen off Hibs, Caley, Arabs and Hamilton we could be in a title race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I agree completely although our current form/position whilst good, could actually be better. If we had seen off Hibs, Caley, Arabs and Hamilton we could be in a title race. Very true GD, it is a bit of a sobering thought that had we even won just 3 of those daft games at the start we would be clear in third and at least be able to say we were in the mix. As it is, we have rally shat in our own nest but at least they have went the right way about sorting it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Very true GD, it is a bit of a sobering thought that had we even won just 3 of those daft games at the start we would be clear in third and at least be able to say we were in the mix. As it is, we have rally shat in our own nest but at least they have went the right way about sorting it out. Keeps the season interesting We don't like to be straight forward with these things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowdon Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Very true GD, it is a bit of a sobering thought that had we even won just 3 of those daft games at the start we would be clear in third and at least be able to say we were in the mix. As it is, we have rally shat in our own nest but at least they have went the right way about sorting it out. I wonder if pumping Celtic will result in our very own media spunkfest? Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I wonder if pumping Celtic will result in our very own media spunkfest? Probably not. We don't want that anyway. We still aren't that great by any means and the coverage of when shit starts flying will be all the worse if we got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Agree with funster (yes I do feel unclean) Aw shucks Jute, that hurt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowdon Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 We don't want that anyway. We still aren't that great by any means and the coverage of when shit starts flying will be all the worse if we got it. Yea, we are generally better when the spotlight is elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntbear Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Look what happened the last time we sold half the squad.... Was this whole thread an exercise in fishing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I think lessons will be learned after last season. Two seasons ago we kept the team together (because nobody wanted any of them) and we had a good run in Europe. Last season we cashed in round the January window which basically ended our season (crashed out of the cup and struggled to get into the top 6). As a fan I'd say keep the team together then cash in when summer rolls around. Jimmy (believe it or not some of you!) always manages to replace players who we all thought were better than the current crop. It'll be the accountants who decide though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Padre™ Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I agree completely although our current form/position whilst good, could actually be better. If we had seen off Hibs, Caley, Arabs and Hamilton we could be in a title race. You could say that about anyone in the top 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Debt down to £6m??? Surely nae? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBiscuit Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Debt down to £6m??? Surely nae? It's just the book value that's down to £6m because of the profit made last season. ie if the club was to finish tomorrow, the amount in the bank would go to the debt, leaving £6m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 What exactly is the point in having that much money sitting in the bank if we have loans to pay off? We're sure as fuck not going to go out and spend that sort of money on players. £50k here, £100k there perhaps but millions in the bank when we're in debt. Would we not be better off paying it off so we don't get hammered by interest and keeping say £250k for a rainy day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBiscuit Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 What exactly is the point in having that much money sitting in the bank if we have loans to pay off? We're sure as fuck not going to go out and spend that sort of money on players. £50k here, £100k there perhaps but millions in the bank when we're in debt. Would we not be better off paying it off so we don't get hammered by interest and keeping say £250k for a rainy day? Possibly for accounting reasons, to make the Balance Sheet look better at year end - it would show that the club doesn't have cash flow problems (which the huns and diet huns certainly do) but at the same time can also off-set it against the debt. The chances are that it has now been put towards the debt. Someone with a better knowledge of these things than me will maybe know, but there is also the case of the football side of things being kept seperate to the rest of the business operation at Pittodrie, that may have something to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octavion Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 10p rise on pies and 5 p on Bovril on the cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
??? Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 10p rise on pies and 5 p on Bovril on the cards The old Pittodrie food debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_min Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 10p rise on pies and 5 p on Bovril on the cards JMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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