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Offline Jute

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2019, 05:11:51 PM »
1 up front at home has to stop. Midfield 3 offer nothing creative at all. Only positive is we are not as shite as Hibs or Hearts.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2019, 05:57:10 PM »
 The first half hadn't been the worst watch as far as St J games go.Thought we were comfortable until they scored a goal which I'd thought Lewis was in the process of saving :( 

  Second half we just seemed to run out of ideas.Too predictable and obvious.Needed something more imaginative,eg angled runs into the box like Ojo? or  Vyner? did in the first half(but never tried again),or someone pacy to run at their defence when it was clear doing the same thing over and over wasn't working.
    Too many players were anonymous when we needed more.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2019, 07:39:56 PM »
Absolutely comfortable and well worth out lead until our esteemed captain chucked in yet another goal. He seems to enjoy god like status with many of our fans but in reality he has made similar fuck ups 3 to 4 times each season he has been with us yet escapes severe scrutiny. When Consi  or McGinn produce such howlers they get weeks of grief.  about it.

Once they had scored, there was only one team in it and it certainly wasn't us. Long ball shit in a howling gale? It's just criminal. Hedges was totally anonymous in the second half. Anonymous still was a better showing than Gallagher produced when he inexplicably came on to replace Bryson. And giving Wilson his customary 10 minutes? Cosgrove was rank and he should have been the first one subbed off after an hour.

McInnes this really isn't good enough. With the size and length of your contract you are far safer than the performances you are getting from the team warrant. 3 away games coming on the trot now and if we play like we did today I can see us coming out of them with nul points and a cup exit.....even allowing for the jambos' utter shyteness.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2019, 09:41:35 PM »
Same shit different day. Second half was god awful but the problem is that the second half is what we see most games. We are consistently rank rotten.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2019, 10:50:51 PM »
Well that was pish. A miserable day today and not helped much by what I saw at Pittodrie this afternoon. We were comfortable on the whole until they equalised and come the second half we were utter shyte. I would say a draw was fair, but the Saints will have went don the road knowing they should have had the three points.

Good to see the ref speaking to the linesman and changing his mind about the penalty he awarded them, it wasn't a pen, but we were lucky minutes before  though when Ferguson pushed over one of their players just inside the box, he does far too much of that sleekit shite for my liking and for me has been the weak link in our midfield for a while now. I really cannot believe how much game time the loon gets when we have other players who don't get a sniff of action.

The subs were not great, Gallagher didn't improve anything when he came on and McLennan was just McLennan, never a wide player, then Wilson appears for his end of game cameo out on the wing.

Cosgrove just isn't good enough at this level, yes I know his goal record looks good, but I find his all round play is shocking, strange that we haven't seen Main yet, although when doing his half time warm up he looked to be carrying a bit of timber on him.

Lewis is least of our concerns, yes he will make howlers like any goalie will during the course of a season, but he saves us more points than he loses us over a season, don't think I would have him as captain, but then I don't really think there is anyone else capable of it either, I suspect he is keeping the armband warm for Shinnie heading back up the road in January. from the Merkland end it looked as though it bobbled over him.

Apparently Bryson is out injured again and we also lost Ojo with a knock, so all in all a shit day.


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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2019, 08:31:13 AM »

 I thought Cosgrove in the first half had been doing quite well,including some nifty footwork in tight situations,but he was poor second half(because we were pumping high balls more often?),and I would have subbed him early for Wilson,or even tried MacLennan through the middle as I didnt think McGinn was doing bad.
    Wasnt enough threat from midfield though.Bryson,Ojo and Ferguson were too quiet,and our movement up front in general was a bit dull.
   
   

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2019, 09:30:44 AM »
Pretty much agree with the majority of the comments thus far. We looked okay up until they equalised, which was a shocker from Lewis, can't really defend him.

Second game in a row where Cosgrove has been very poor, Ferguson was largely anonymous, only remember him for a late free kick that forced a save and then him wasting about a minute with more petulant nonsense trying to take the ball off a St Johnstone player in injury time.

The subs made very little impact, Wilson perhaps at least moving the ball forward but still not having enough time really, to influence the game.

Bryson, Ojo and Gallagher all potentially injured for a period now as well, might come to nothing or might be several weeks.

All in all, very poor result and performance against a team that are really struggling this season, Stevie May was fucking garbage and it feels good writing this knowing he's not our player now. I truly believe that we have became stale, unimaginative and far too predictable and we have a manager who is stubborn with his " Tactics " and it's holding us back. 
It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2019, 03:18:18 PM »
What happened at half time ?  Thought we looked fairly decent in 1st half & was expecting another goal or 2. :eek:
Lewis was very poor at their goal & the marking was non existant.
Can imagine Saints travelling down the road feeling a bit aggrieved tbh!
Why does D.M not manage to see the system we were playing wasnt working, was obvious with at least 30mns to go, when the changes should be made.
We should not be playing with 1 striker , get back to 442, bringing Wilson on for 10mns at the end, really ::)
McLennan looked absolutely honking when he came on, his decision making is atrocious i'm afraid.
              Thought Ojo & Bryson did okay in 1st half & we lost our shape when they went off, Leigh did quite well  & if pushed was probably my m.o.t.m.

Eye bleeding stuff again though & is obviously driving fans away.
Fans losing faith in D.M's tactics (or lack of ).



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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2019, 03:59:06 PM »
What happened at half time ?  Thought we looked fairly decent in 1st half & was expecting another goal or 2. :eek:
Lewis was very poor at their goal & the marking was non existant.
Can imagine Saints travelling down the road feeling a bit aggrieved tbh!
Why does D.M not manage to see the system we were playing wasnt working, was obvious with at least 30mns to go, when the changes should be made.
We should not be playing with 1 striker , get back to 442, bringing Wilson on for 10mns at the end, really ::)
McLennan looked absolutely honking when he came on, his decision making is atrocious i'm afraid.
              Thought Ojo & Bryson did okay in 1st half & we lost our shape when they went off, Leigh did quite well  & if pushed was probably my m.o.t.m.

Eye bleeding stuff again though & is obviously driving fans away.
Fans losing faith in D.M's tactics (or lack of ).

Probably his main flaw. He does certain things right, and he's got good pace, can hit the ball etc... but most of the time the boy does everything correctly then fails to move the ball on and ends up losing possession or giving himself too much to do and runs it out. The only plus here is that he's still learning and if he nips that in the bud now, he'll be a good player, ready made replacement for McGinn.
It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2019, 06:36:04 PM »
will he ? ryan fraser was exponentially better at that age, appears he is another runner with very limited technique
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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2019, 02:27:24 AM »
Watched the "highlights" yesterday and probably echo most of what has already been said.  Although i'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that there were 6 or 7 outfield players behind the ball at their equaliser.  That was truly pathetic.  I actually thought it took a deflection which caused Lewis to miss judge it.  But regardless, it seems like he was slow to react.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2019, 07:02:39 AM »
Watched the "highlights" yesterday and probably echo most of what has already been said.  Although i'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that there were 6 or 7 outfield players behind the ball at their equaliser.  That was truly pathetic.  I actually thought it took a deflection which caused Lewis to miss judge it.  But regardless, it seems like he was slow to react.

St Johnstone were very quick on the counter and caught us out a few times when we tried to push up and get the second goal. There was a couple of time Cosgrove was back in his own half trying to get the ball which really shouldn't be the case. Badly lacking a Shinnie in the middle of the park to spur us on and grab the game by the scruff of the neck, lacking a leader big time.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2019, 09:43:13 PM »
will he ? ryan fraser was exponentially better at that age, appears he is another runner with very limited technique

Indeed, but Brown trusted Fraser and he was one of the first names on the team sheet, McLennan will only get better by playing consistently & also learning from the likes of McGinn. The boy has plenty of ability, he just need to sort out his decision making, that's what is letting him down badly.
It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2019, 09:44:21 PM »
St Johnstone were very quick on the counter and caught us out a few times when we tried to push up and get the second goal. There was a couple of time Cosgrove was back in his own half trying to get the ball which really shouldn't be the case. Badly lacking a Shinnie in the middle of the park to spur us on and grab the game by the scruff of the neck, lacking a leader big time.

Badly lacking a Stephen Gleeson, sooner he's back and fully fit, the better.









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It's a math class, the whole deal. Just like every math class, there's a clown in the front, and everybody hates this clown because he raises his hand, he's answering all the questions. What do we do? Move on. Just fucking move on, ready or not. He's deciding we got to move on, he knows his math, I hadn't even figured out about Santa Claus yet.

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Re: St. Johnstone at home, 3pm Saturday Sept 14
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2019, 07:41:28 AM »
Indeed, but Brown trusted Fraser and he was one of the first names on the team sheet, McLennan will only get better by playing consistently & also learning from the likes of McGinn. The boy has plenty of ability, he just need to sort out his decision making, that's what is letting him down badly.

CM was exceptional for his country last week. His late goals won the game. He has plenty self confidence. He just needs to be deployed in a formation that he understands and trusts. It's the same for every human being. People can't possibly perform well if the system they're being asked to operate in doesn't work.
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