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Re: Scotland v Russia
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2019, 06:30:30 AM »
Perhaps its time to get Craig Brown back  :hammer:

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Re: Scotland v Russia
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2019, 08:50:34 AM »
I assume that you would deploy different tactics against Belgium than you would against Russia? Also, we have a squad, and it's an international squad so the variance between players shouldn't be significant. Phillips is pap, but is he much more pap than McBurnie? Similarly, Cooper vs Bates or O'Donnell vs traffic cone. Clarke was very new in the door for his first couple of games (a week?) and so this round of games should be a much better marker of what is to be expected. But then he's had injuries in defence to contend with and limited choices up front generally. Friday seemed to me to still be a bit of experimenting because of the injuries (in defence mainly), which is frustrating but you could see quite quickly that Cooper was pap for example. I wouldn't have McGregor near the starting eleven either and I'd be pretty ruthless about ditching Forrest if he was having a poor game as he's had only 3 good games in 25. You'd like to think that we could make 4 changes and happily have as good a team starting tonight as did on Friday.

Injuries in defence, fair enough Rico but he played the same defence in the last couple games.  They're not great but that's not my point.  You surely need a bit of consistency in selection further forward.  You can still adopt different tactics using the same personnel.  The best international teams generally have hundreds of caps in their side, we have so many players with less than 30 games it's crazy.  People were singing the praises of the likes of Fraser, McGinn and Forrest before Clarke took over, now we are playing the best team in the group and they are sitting on the bench.  Do Bournemouth keep Ryan Fraser on their bench when they play Man City?

Up front, yes, the choices are pretty dire but at least give one more than just 90 mins before you decide if he can cut it at international level.  The hardest part of international fitba is that you only play a game every couple of months so surely cutting down the number of variables in your team is the only way you are ever going to get any kind of level of consistency.


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Re: Scotland v Russia
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2019, 09:42:13 AM »
Injuries in defence, fair enough Rico but he played the same defence in the last couple games.  They're not great but that's not my point.  You surely need a bit of consistency in selection further forward.  You can still adopt different tactics using the same personnel.  The best international teams generally have hundreds of caps in their side, we have so many players with less than 30 games it's crazy.  People were singing the praises of the likes of Fraser, McGinn and Forrest before Clarke took over, now we are playing the best team in the group and they are sitting on the bench.  Do Bournemouth keep Ryan Fraser on their bench when they play Man City?

Up front, yes, the choices are pretty dire but at least give one more than just 90 mins before you decide if he can cut it at international level.  The hardest part of international fitba is that you only play a game every couple of months so surely cutting down the number of variables in your team is the only way you are ever going to get any kind of level of consistency.

Aye, it's a fair point. Although I actually think that in the forward areas you can afford a bit of chop and change and a settled defence is the key. I'd have dropped Forrest but not Fraser. I'd have dropped McGregor and not McGinn. The problem Scotland have is that they are deficient in quite a few areas and so that lends itself well to not having a settled side. All the players are of similar standard in the areas that we struggle. Forrest vs Snodgrass, Phillips vs McBurnie, McLean vs McGregor or McGinn. Lack of standouts I suppose.

That said, Clarke has made a lot of mistakes up to this point and I don't think he's close to knowing his preferred team even before injuries and call-offs. We now have a series of non-competitive competitive games where players will take the opportunity not to turn up and we'll still be no closer to understanding our best team as a result. Clarke needs to do something that every manager since Brown (different era really) has struggled to do and that is to get our best players to want to play for their nation regardless of anything else.

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Re: Scotland v Russia
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2019, 02:13:23 PM »
Aye, it's a fair point. Although I actually think that in the forward areas you can afford a bit of chop and change and a settled defence is the key. I'd have dropped Forrest but not Fraser. I'd have dropped McGregor and not McGinn. The problem Scotland have is that they are deficient in quite a few areas and so that lends itself well to not having a settled side. All the players are of similar standard in the areas that we struggle. Forrest vs Snodgrass, Phillips vs McBurnie, McLean vs McGregor or McGinn. Lack of standouts I suppose.

That said, Clarke has made a lot of mistakes up to this point and I don't think he's close to knowing his preferred team even before injuries and call-offs. We now have a series of non-competitive competitive games where players will take the opportunity not to turn up and we'll still be no closer to understanding our best team as a result. Clarke needs to do something that every manager since Brown (different era really) has struggled to do and that is to get our best players to want to play for their nation regardless of anything else.

We'll see what Clarke time in charge is going to bring with those games you mention. I actually think the players will turn up to play for him as he seems to be a "players' coach", they seem to like his methods etc. If they don't turn up we'll know he's done for.
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Re: Scotland v Russia
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2019, 04:37:57 PM »
At least McKenna is safe in the knowledge that his injury won't have cost him his place in the team. It's a horrendous thought but in a year's time Tavernier from sevco will qualify for us on residential grounds. I think Logan might even qualify already but his form has been so sketchy for the past 2 years I don't think Clarke would consider him, but Tavernier definitely will be at least asked the question.

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Re: Scotland v Russia
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2019, 07:23:18 PM »
At least McKenna is safe in the knowledge that his injury won't have cost him his place in the team. It's a horrendous thought but in a year's time Tavernier from sevco will qualify for us on residential grounds. I think Logan might even qualify already but his form has been so sketchy for the past 2 years I don't think Clarke would consider him, but Tavernier definitely will be at least asked the question.

No he won’t. Despite FIFA’s eligibility rules, the “home” nations have agreed not to cap players based on residency unless they were at school in the country for the five years, which was the agreement made in order to help the great Andy driver play for Scotland.
Can you blame the man for going out of his mind temporarily?