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Scottish Cup fourth-round draw

 

Airdrie United v Dundee United

 

Arbroath v Rangers

 

Cowdenbeath v Hibernian

 

Culter or Partick Thistle v Queen of the South

 

Dundee v Kilmarnock

 

Falkirk v East Fife

 

Hearts v Auchinleck Talbot

 

Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Dunfermline Athletic

 

Livingston v Ayr United or Montrose

 

Motherwell v Elgin City or Queen's Park

 

Peterhead v Celtic

 

Raith Rovers v Morton

 

Ross County v Stenhousemuir

 

St Mirren v Hamilton Academical

 

St Johnstone v Brechin City

 

Stranraer or Forfar Athletic v Aberdeen

 

Ties to be played 7/8 January

 

Not the most exiting of draw. Talbot at Tyncastle gives a bit of novelty value, St J v Brechin produced a couple of cracking games last season and potentially tricky games for United and Killie but otherwise fairly uninspiring.

 

Definitely, the first game was one of the best cup ties I've seen in a long time.

 

Was hoping for a few all-SPL ties to clear the way for us a bit - and I do appreciate the futility of this wish given that Stranraer/Forfar will probably pump us.

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Full set of fixtures for this weekend.

Best potential for a shock? 

Perhaps the Blue Brazil vs HIVs before the stock car racing starts? Cowdenbeath riding high in the 2nd. Hibs fucking gash?

Dundee beating Killie?

 

Can't see many other potential surprises, suppose Ayr beating Livi might count:

 

Saturday, 7 January 2012

Dundee v Kilmarnock, R4, 12:30

Airdrie Utd v Dundee Utd, R4, 15:00

Cowdenbeath v Hibernian, R4, 15:00

Falkirk v East Fife, R4, 15:00

Forfar v Aberdeen, R4, 15:00

Hearts v Auchinleck Talbot, R4, 15:00

Inverness CT v Dunfermline, R4, 15:00

Livingston v Ayr, R4, 15:00

Motherwell v Queen's Park, R4, 15:00

Partick Thistle v Queen of South, R4, 15:00

Raith Rovers v Morton, R4, 15:00

Ross County v Stenhousemuir, R4, 15:00

St Johnstone v Brechin, R4, 15:00

St Mirren v Hamilton, R4, 15:00

Sunday, 8 January 2012

Arbroath v Rangers, R4, 12:45

Peterhead v Celtic, R4, 15:00

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what the fuck now?

 

The Scottish Cup

Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas and World Cup and Champions League-winning manager Marcello Lippi will join Jim Mullen, Chief Operating Officer at William Hill Online, to conduct the William Hill Scottish Cup fifth round draw on Monday, 9 Janaury at Hampden Park.

 

The draw will take place at 2.30pm and will be broadcast live on Sky Sports News

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Todays Crowds

 

Hearts vs Auchinleck                  8,895 (49% Capacity)

Motherwell vs Queens Park      4,286  (31% Capacity)

Forfar vs Aberdeen                    3,747  (81% Capacity)

Dundee vs Kilmarnock                3,446  (29% Capacity)

St Mirren vs Hamilton                3,091  (39% Capacity)

Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian        2,670  (51% Capacity)

Falkirk vs East Fife                    2,475  (30% Capacity)

St Johnstone vs Brechin            2,467  (23% Capacity)

Partick vs Queen of the south    2,454  (23% Capacity)

Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd          2,434  (24% Capacity)

Inverness caley vs Dunfermline  1,601  (21% Capacity)

Raith Rovers vs Morton              1,581  (19% Capacity)

Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421  (24% Capacity)

Livingston vs Ayr United              932  ( 9% Capacity)

 

Not a single game in this round will make it into 5 figures ::)

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Todays Crowds

 

Hearts vs Auchinleck                  8,895 (49% Capacity)

Motherwell vs Queens Park      4,286  (31% Capacity)

Forfar vs Aberdeen                    3,747  (81% Capacity)

Dundee vs Kilmarnock                3,446  (29% Capacity)

St Mirren vs Hamilton                3,091  (39% Capacity)

Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian        2,670  (51% Capacity)

Falkirk vs East Fife                    2,475  (30% Capacity)

St Johnstone vs Brechin            2,467  (23% Capacity)

Partick vs Queen of the south    2,454  (23% Capacity)

Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd          2,434  (24% Capacity)

Inverness caley vs Dunfermline  1,601  (21% Capacity)

Raith Rovers vs Morton              1,581  (19% Capacity)

Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421  (24% Capacity)

Livingston vs Ayr United              932  ( 9% Capacity)

 

Not a single game in this round will make it into 5 figures ::)

 

Fucking hell Tom, some pretty damning statistics there.

The two Edinburgh clubs in particular crowds are very poor.

Hearts only would have had about 6,500 if you take away the Auchinleck support, and the HIVS more than a 1,000 less than at our game for what was a very short trip for them.

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Todays Crowds

 

Hearts vs Auchinleck                  8,895 (49% Capacity)

Motherwell vs Queens Park      4,286  (31% Capacity)

Forfar vs Aberdeen                    3,747  (81% Capacity)

Dundee vs Kilmarnock                3,446  (29% Capacity)

St Mirren vs Hamilton                3,091  (39% Capacity)

Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian        2,670  (51% Capacity)

Falkirk vs East Fife                    2,475  (30% Capacity)

St Johnstone vs Brechin            2,467  (23% Capacity)

Partick vs Queen of the south    2,454  (23% Capacity)

Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd          2,434  (24% Capacity)

Inverness caley vs Dunfermline  1,601  (21% Capacity)

Raith Rovers vs Morton              1,581  (19% Capacity)

Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421  (24% Capacity)

Livingston vs Ayr United              932  ( 9% Capacity)

 

Not a single game in this round will make it into 5 figures ::)

Thats Fucking Shocking!!
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Nae great crowds, but a bit harsh criticising people for not making the 3 hour journey for a midday kickoff for a game on council telly.

 

I was referring more to the yokel fans! Killie, I can sort of understand and their support is generally pish anyway.

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Other than Hearts and Motherwell, can any of the ground even hold 10,000?

 

Nae great crowds, but a bit harsh criticising people for not making the 3 hour journey for a midday kickoff for a game on council telly.

 

Did we manage to sell out our end btw?

 

10000+ stadia

Hearts

Motherwell

Dundee

St Johnstone

Partick

Airdrie

Livingston

 

Ill admit not making the 5 figures target is affected by the draw but when only 2 games make it to more than 50% capacity including an all spl tie then more questions need to be asked

 

As for our end the seating was sold out and the terracing was almost full but not so much that you felt claustraphobic. Probably could have squeezed in another 100-200 dons fans.

 

Just a pity we arent seen as enough of a draw for the local glory hunters for forfar to sell out their end. The home terracing behind the goal was a depressing sight

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Cant say i'm surprised by this.  The festive period is over and folk are counting the cost, scottish football is a very poor product at the moment

 

How many people go for the product though? I only really care how good Aberdeen are in relation to the rest of the league.

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The Weekends Crowds

 

Hearts vs Auchinleck                  8,895 (49% Capacity)

Arbroath vs Rangers                  5,895 (91% Capacity)

Peterhead vs Celtic                    4,505 (113% Capacity apparently?)

Motherwell vs Queens Park      4,286  (31% Capacity)

Forfar vs Aberdeen                    3,747  (81% Capacity)

Dundee vs Kilmarnock                3,446  (29% Capacity)

St Mirren vs Hamilton                3,091  (39% Capacity)

Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian        2,670  (51% Capacity)

Falkirk vs East Fife                    2,475  (30% Capacity)

St Johnstone vs Brechin            2,467  (23% Capacity)

Partick vs Queen of the south    2,454  (23% Capacity)

Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd          2,434  (24% Capacity)

Inverness caley vs Dunfermline  1,601  (21% Capacity)

Raith Rovers vs Morton              1,581  (19% Capacity)

Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421  (24% Capacity)

Livingston vs Ayr United              932  ( 9% Capacity)

 

If someone said at the start of the tournament that the 3rd rounds biggest crowd would be at a game featuring a Junior team would anyone have taken them seriously?

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The Weekends Crowds

 

Hearts vs Auchinleck                  8,895 (49% Capacity)

Arbroath vs Rangers                  5,895 (91% Capacity)

Peterhead vs Celtic                    4,505 (113% Capacity apparently?)

Motherwell vs Queens Park      4,286  (31% Capacity)

Forfar vs Aberdeen                    3,747  (81% Capacity)

Dundee vs Kilmarnock                3,446  (29% Capacity)

St Mirren vs Hamilton                3,091  (39% Capacity)

Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian        2,670  (51% Capacity)

Falkirk vs East Fife                    2,475  (30% Capacity)

St Johnstone vs Brechin            2,467  (23% Capacity)

Partick vs Queen of the south    2,454  (23% Capacity)

Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd          2,434  (24% Capacity)

Inverness caley vs Dunfermline  1,601  (21% Capacity)

Raith Rovers vs Morton              1,581  (19% Capacity)

Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421  (24% Capacity)

Livingston vs Ayr United              932  ( 9% Capacity)

 

If someone said at the start of the tournament that the 3rd rounds biggest crowd would be at a game featuring a Junior team would anyone have taken them seriously?

 

Well if they said it was going to be at Tyncastle then yes.  I can't imagine that at any time in the last 10years that there would have been a significant difference in numbers.  Largely an insipid draw. Hibs, Aberdeen, United, Rantic all away from home at lower league, and small grounds (Broadwood excepted). ST not valid in the main and in a lot of ties bigger side at home against shite opposition so not huge incentive to get down to the ground.

 

In any case a fairer judgement would be to compare the crowds to average home crowds

 

Hearts vs Auchinleck                  8,895 (66% average crowd)

Arbroath vs Rangers                  5,895 (777% average crowd)

Peterhead vs Celtic                    4,505 (882% average crowd)

Motherwell vs Queens Park      4,286  (74% average crowd)

Forfar vs Aberdeen                    3,747  (689% average crowd)

Dundee vs Kilmarnock                3,446  (76% average crowd))

St Mirren vs Hamilton                3,091  (64% average crowd)

Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian        2,670  (714% average crowd)

Falkirk vs East Fife                    2,475  (73% average crowd)

St Johnstone vs Brechin            2,467  (67% average crowd)

Partick vs Queen of the south    2,454  (98% average crowd)

Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd          2,434  (277% average crowd)

Inverness caley vs Dunfermline  1,601  (37% average crowd)

Raith Rovers vs Morton              1,581  (76% average crowd)

Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421  (56% average crowd)

Livingston vs Ayr United              932  ( 56% average crowd)

 

So from that lot you could say average crowds are shite this year but that's hardly new or surprising.  Only poorish crowds I would say are Livi and County - County always seem to have poor cup crowds but as they are doing so well you would have thought they would have got a few more folk in but how many Stenny fans will have travelled? - and the ICT crowd but again who wants to go see ICT v Dunfermline for one of 5 meetings this season.

 

Dundee game would have had another 2-3000 if it wasn't on TV while if hibs had been any good recently they would have taken a few more but still reasonable attendances.

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Draw at 230pm

 

who do you fancy

 

Aberdeen

Rangers

Celtic

Hearts

Hibernian

Falkirk

Motherwell

St Johnstone

Queen of the South

Ayr United

Morton

Ross County

Dundee United

St Mirren or Hamilton

Inverness Caley or Dunfermline

Dundee or Kilmarnock

 

Am away trip to Morton or Ross County would be nice I think

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