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Title: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CvB on September 26, 2018, 09:53:13 PM
Huns.
Cunts are on form at the moment but at least we've not lost to them yet.

First out of the hat, wonder if we'll get the home end at Hampden... ::)
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: tom_widdows on September 26, 2018, 09:56:21 PM
Huns.
Cunts are on form at the moment but at least we've not lost to them yet.

First out of the hat, wonder if we'll get the home end at Hampden... ::)

or Murrayfield
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: wee toon red on September 26, 2018, 09:57:07 PM
Bring the bastards on  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: tom_widdows on September 26, 2018, 10:09:29 PM
No Morelos (suspended) or Lafferty (Cup tied) for Sevco
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on September 26, 2018, 10:13:25 PM
Both semi-finals will be played on Sunday 28 October as Celtic and The Rangers have Europa League matches on Thursday 25 October.

Alfredo Morelos and Kyle Lafferty out.

Bring it on  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CvB on September 27, 2018, 08:12:03 AM
Both semi-finals will be played on Sunday 28 October as Celtic and The Rangers have Europa League matches on Thursday 25 October.

Alfredo Morelos and Kyle Lafferty out.

Bring it on  :thumbsup:

Never realised that. What's the odds they make us travel down for an early kickoff, be that Edinburgh or glasgow.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on September 27, 2018, 08:17:48 AM
We'll surely be in Glasgow. Can't imagine the police would want Aberdeen and Huns converging on Edinburgh (likely through Haymarket mostly).  Would be easier to have the Edinburgh team playing in Edinburgh, I would have thought.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Tyrant on September 27, 2018, 09:09:48 AM
There's a time I would have killed for this but fucking hell I'm struggling for the motivation for a trip to Hampden. Just like the players were last time.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: wee toon red on September 27, 2018, 09:23:10 AM
We'll surely be in Glasgow. Can't imagine the police would want Aberdeen and Huns converging on Edinburgh (likely through Haymarket mostly).  Would be easier to have the Edinburgh team playing in Edinburgh, I would have thought.

You'd think, but then with Hearts having used Murrayfield for home games a year ago they'll probably use that as a reason to have them in Glasgow.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CtS on September 27, 2018, 11:49:48 AM
Think the sfa have a big problem here, even playing one game in Edinburgh, and with different kick off times, it’s almost impossible to avoid a collision of fans travelling either pre or post match. Could be messy.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on September 27, 2018, 12:43:28 PM
What a bunch of buffoons the SPFL really are. They had plenty of time arranging dates and venues for the semi finals. They knew there was a good possibility that the Ugly sisters would be involved and also knew that the pair had games in Europe. All they needed to do was to have yet another meeting BEFORE the draw and sort it all out but instead they have invited the four semi finalists for their views which basically means what the Glasgow wish to happen regardless of Aberdeen and Hearts think.


Utter shambles again from the SPFL  :wave:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ramperbamper on September 27, 2018, 12:47:05 PM
Thee SPFL run this competition remember, rather than the SFA.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on September 27, 2018, 12:52:21 PM
Thee SPFL run this competition remember, rather than the SFA.

Cheers,fixed it but the SFA are still Buffoons  :wave:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on September 27, 2018, 01:26:08 PM
According to the DR they are considering a Super Sunday with both semi finals being played on Sunday, one after another. Both on BT Sport.

Probably have the Aberdeen one kicking off at 11.00.

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: afc1903mad on September 27, 2018, 05:08:44 PM
According to the DR they are considering a Super Sunday with both semi finals being played on Sunday, one after another. Both on BT Sport.

Probably have the Aberdeen one kicking off at 11.00.

I'd expect them to do that, but the question then comes down to where the games are played and the kick off times
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on September 27, 2018, 05:17:41 PM
I'll stick my neck out and say it'll be us v sevco at Hampdung with a midday kick off then Dhims v Fartz at Murrayfield at 3.....

That way 2 clubs aren't travelling and when our game kicks off the Dhims will be heading East. By the time our game finishes all the Celtic fans will have left and we then head up the road and are long gone by the time Celtic start heading back.

As has been said by others, it would cause Edinburgh rozzers the mother of all headaches if ourselves and the sevconians were arriving into Haymarket at the same time, followed by a half mile trek out to the ground.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Stewart on September 27, 2018, 05:59:09 PM
https://spfl.co.uk/news/double-header-for-betfred-cup-semi-finals

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BOTH MATCHES TO BE PLAYED AT HAMPDEN PARK ON SUNDAY 28 OCTOBER

Betfred Cup semi-finals - Sunday 28 October - Hampden Park, Glasgow

Aberdeen v Rangers - Live on BT Sport, kick-off 12 noon
 
Heart of Midlothian v Celtic - Live on BT Sport, kick-off 7.45pm
Last night’s Betfred Cup draw, which saw Celtic and Rangers avoid each other, means Scotland’s two representatives in Europe will play their semi-final matches at Hampden on the same day.

Following a meeting with the four semi-finalists earlier today, SPFL secretary Iain Blair confirmed that both matches, Aberdeen vs Rangers and Hearts vs Celtic, will take place at the National Stadium on Sunday 28 October. Aberdeen vs Rangers will kick off at 12 noon, with Heart of Midlothian vs Celtic kicking off at 7.45pm the same day. Both matches will be broadcast live on BT Sport.

The SPFL is contractually obliged to bring both semi-finals to Hampden.

Iain Blair said: “We knew going into last night’s Betfred Cup draw there was a chance that if Rangers and Celtic reached the Betfred Cup semi-finals the draw could keep them apart, and because they both have a UEFA Europa League match on Thursday 25 October, we had to find a solution which gave them the necessary two-day gap between competitive matches.

“We’ve been working hard with Police Scotland and Hampden Park on contingency planning for exactly this scenario and, together, we examined every possible permutation.

“The crowded fixture calendar means that this is the best and most practical solution as any alternative had the knock-on effect of causing major fixture congestion, not only for Celtic and Rangers, but for several other SPFL clubs.

“We met with representatives of all four clubs earlier today and explained that this was the only feasible outcome.

“The fact that both Celtic and Rangers are in Europe, and will hopefully be playing in the Europa League after the New Year, is obviously good news for Scottish football, but it does mean that our capacity for rescheduling games is significantly curtailed.

“We can confirm that Police Scotland have advised that the Aberdeen vs Rangers game should be played first.”


A Hampden Park Limited spokesman said “We have already started the detailed planning process which is standard practice for all major events at the Stadium. Hampden is the home of Scottish football and we all look forward to assisting our SPFL colleagues with the delivery of two very exciting Betfred Cup semi-finals at the Stadium.”

The most interesting bits in bold.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: hebrew on September 27, 2018, 06:10:18 PM
What a fucking shambles
Surely one of the semis could have been played on Saturday 20th October or Saturday 3rd November
This is the best the SPFL could come up with!!
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: BigAl on September 27, 2018, 06:22:09 PM
What a fucking shambles
Surely one of the semis could have been played on Saturday 20th October or Saturday 3rd November
This is the best the SPFL could come up with!!

Typical woman, trying to apply logic to it.

Only kidding Hebrew. You are bang on
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: donsdaft on September 27, 2018, 06:56:27 PM
So, the police think that making Dons fans leave for the game at 7.00 am is best for all concerned.




What if, in our exuberance after our 6-0 victory, we dig up bits of the pitch and break up the posts and crossbars?
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on September 27, 2018, 07:22:15 PM
SPFL....“We’ve had to have the games staggered a fair way apart and we understand that will create some inconvenience for supporters travelling, but that unfortunately is the price we pay for having two teams in the Europa League group stages this year.”

The price we pay to have Celtic and Sevco playing in Scotland. :hammer:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: afc1903mad on September 27, 2018, 08:03:08 PM
https://spfl.co.uk/news/double-header-for-betfred-cup-semi-finals

The most interesting bits in bold.

I’d like to know on what basis was Police Scotland preference for our game to be first.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: manc_don on September 27, 2018, 08:47:06 PM
What a fucking shambles
Surely one of the semis could have been played on Saturday 20th October or Saturday 3rd November
This is the best the SPFL could come up with!!

Spot on, lunacy at best.  But no, they couldn't be seen to favour one of those pricks  ::)
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on September 27, 2018, 08:56:13 PM
An AFC spokesperson commented. “As a club we have repeatedly asked that the authorities stop giving us kick-off times which, for our large travelling support, are completely unacceptable, but yet again, what should be a showpiece occasion, is scheduled to start at a time that does not take supporters into account.
“While we appreciate Police Scotland was insistent that our game was played first for operational reasons, we believe, and stated along with others, that having both games in the same stadium on the same day, is inappropriate. There are other options that should have been investigated further, including staging the two games on consecutive weekends or using two different venues which would have allowed kick-off times more suitable for what are hugely significant occasions in the Scottish football calendar. Contesting the two matches on consecutive weekends would be an alternative surely worth investigating, particularly as Celtic are due to face Heart of Midlothian in the Ladbrokes Premiership the following weekend, while also fulfilling the contractual obligations.
“We appreciate the authorities have a difficult job to schedule games in what is an extremely congested calendar but to yet again ask our supporters to be in Glasgow for a 12 noon start on a Sunday is, quite frankly, appalling.”
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on September 27, 2018, 10:46:25 PM
Just seen a valid point made on another forum. If  (ok when) we go a couple of goals up there is a very good chance the sevconians won't be in a very celebratory mood. In such circumstances the nearest lavatorial facilities tend to end up smashed to smithereens. And if that happens the second semi cannot go ahead.

Let's hope we put 5 past the c@nts so the great unwashed do an extra special job and leave the brains trust at the SPFL with egg all over their smug faces.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: afc1903mad on September 27, 2018, 11:11:25 PM
Just seen a valid point made on another forum. If  (ok when) we go a couple of goals up there is a very good chance the sevconians won't be in a very celebratory mood. In such circumstances the nearest lavatorial facilities tend to end up smashed to smithereens. And if that happens the second semi cannot go ahead.

Let's hope we put 5 past the c@nts so the great unwashed do an extra special job and leave the brains trust at the SPFL with egg all over their smug faces.

Or alternatively, as raised on another form, stage a peaceful protest (sit in) after the game.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 28, 2018, 12:42:15 AM
Or alternatively, as raised on another form, stage a peaceful protest (sit in) after the game.

That's a really dumb idea that would only be perpetrated by dumb cunts thereby making AFC look dumb. If we got beat. Who the fuck could be arsed sitting for an hour or more after a game after a defeat, particularly from them?

On the other hand, if we won...

Nah, who the fuck could be arsed sitting for an hour or more when there are pubs to celebrate in and huns to wind up?

There are more imaginative options available. It just takes cunts with imagination to think it through.

But what's the fucking problem anyway? Getting out of bed at 7 or 8 a.m. never hurt nae cunt.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CtS on September 28, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
The thought of several thousand dandies celebrating, while disgruntled Huns drown their sorrows, and a mix of enthusiastic hearts and Celtic fans loosen up prior to their match, in the same bars across Glasgow city centre.....I find the whole thing quite exciting!  :rofl:

Weighing up my options, might be a weekend in Edinburgh for me, easy commute through to Glasgow Sunday morning, relatively safe celebrations in the capital city after the game. This is the best draw we could have had, Rangers are on good form but they will come a cropper - it’s coming soon. October 28th.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Dunty on September 28, 2018, 02:29:21 AM
Stephen Craigan (why do BT still use him) called the decision "inventive and innovative". Don't think he knows the meaning of the words.

There has to be some sort of protest.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: afc1903mad on September 28, 2018, 08:30:21 AM
That's a really dumb idea that would only be perpetrated by dumb cunts thereby making AFC look dumb.

Why would that be?
It's evidently clear that having club representation and responding with letters / in the media to say the decision is appalling gains no traction.
A peaceful protest, visible, potentially impacting the next game to be scheduled there would certainly gain visibility.

What would your suggestion be?
Apathy, Acceptance, just bend over and accept the consequences?

If we got beat. Who the fuck could be arsed sitting for an hour or more after a game after a defeat, particularly from them?

On the other hand, if we won...

Nah, who the fuck could be arsed sitting for an hour or more when there are pubs to celebrate in and huns to wind up?
The suggestion had nothing to do with the result

There are more imaginative options available. It just takes cunts with imagination to think it through.

I'm keen to hear your suggestions

But what's the fucking problem anyway? Getting out of bed at 7 or 8 a.m. never hurt nae cunt.

Getting up at 8 a.m. would not be sufficient for some (including myself) to get there in time.
Possibly doable at 7 a.m. but this also means driving, with a lack of public transport to get there, it invariably means driving and inability to partake in some liquid refreshments.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 28, 2018, 08:32:56 AM
I don't see a problem with the start time. I don't understand the beef.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on September 28, 2018, 08:40:32 AM
We have to give our team the best backing we can. The 12.00 kick off will not bother our players one little bit. The only thing we all want is a win against Sevco. The SPFL have never cared about any other clubs other than Celtic and Sevco so it is no surprise to me that our kick off time is 1200. The silence from Sevco and Celtic is deafening.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on September 28, 2018, 09:08:28 AM
We have to give our team the best backing we can. The 12.00 kick off will not bother our players one little bit. The only thing we all want is a win against Sevco. The SPFL have never cared about any other clubs other than Celtic and Sevco so it is no surprise to me that our kick off time is 1200. The silence from Sevco and Celtic is deafening.

Why would they? As is the norm, they are effectively both handed home ties in a cup semi final. Their fans have the inconvenience of having to travel no more that 3 miles from their own ground....in Celtic's case only 1.5 miles. Fans of all other clubs are expected to suck it up and treat it as a nice day out. The SPFL/SFA don't really give a shit about all the other clubs. Every season, in both cup competitions, they want to see a Celtic v sevco final.

This was the main reason I wanted Hampden razed to the ground and in ideal circumstances, a new national stadium built in the Falkirk/Stirling vicinity. Or second best, using Murrayfield.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on September 28, 2018, 09:40:57 AM
It's an interesting one like. They've shoe-horned themselves into a contract (I assume until the end of the season?) with Hampden being the only venue they can choose and this appears to be their work around. The question is that with Hampden soon to be under SFA control, would the same problem have occurred? I think that it would. Aberdeen are very much an afterthought, and if they can appease the scum then they're sorted. Zero press headlines (maybe one or two), zero hassle. If, alternatively, we'd have asked one of the cunts (whoever has a home euro match if applicable) to play on the Saturday at 19:45 (for example, to give them a full two days recovery) there would have been an uproar that would have lasted days in the press. There'd have been calls for sackings or resignations. Neither sets of support would have been inconvenienced.

The best solution would have been to switch the Hearts v Celtic Tynecastle fixture in February with the Celtic v Hearts fixture at the beginning of November. Then switch the semi with the new November Hearts v Celtic fixture. Thus you have a league game between Hearts and Celtic on our semi-final Sunday (which could have been at 2 or 3pm) in Edinburgh, followed by the semi at hampden between them the following Saturday at 1pm (or whatever time required for TV). Leaving the remaining Celtic v Hearts fixture to be played in February. There would have been no re-arrangements for supporters (I doubt tickets for the Celtic v Hertz game are on sale yet), the dons v huns would be on at a decent time and there would not have been two games in weegieville at the same time. Simple, I'd have thought?
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: afc1903mad on September 28, 2018, 10:19:48 AM
I don't see a problem with the start time. I don't understand the beef.

Are you driving or going by supporters bus?
Your certainly not going by train unless it’s a stay over.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on September 28, 2018, 10:30:05 AM
Most importantly, fit time do the boozers open? At kick-off time?
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 28, 2018, 10:34:47 AM
Are you driving or going by supporters bus?
Your certainly not going by train unless it’s a stay over.

I'm not going as I'm away that weekend but either I drive to away games or I get driven, mostly me driving. It's been a while since I've gone by bus and I guess that would be a pain, having to get up an hour and a half earlier but since it only happens occasionally, I don't get the problem. I frequently need to get out of bed at odd times for work and flights and I don't have an issue with setting alarms for 3 or 4 a.m.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Tyrant on September 28, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
I don't see a problem with the start time. I don't understand the beef.

It's nae a problem for me as I won't be drinking and will be either driving or getting a lift but I do appreciate it's tough for the cunts that rely on public transport on a Sunday timetable. If there's a train that gets in on time it's likely to cost a fucking fortune and be a grim journey for the poor cunts on the train.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on September 28, 2018, 12:03:58 PM
Not a great fan of Craig Levein but he makes his feeling known about this debacle.

"It's the craziest thing I've ever experienced in football".


https://stv.tv/sport/football/1431381-in-full-craig-levein-rails-against-spfl-and-neil-doncaster/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=stvnews

Well said my man  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: tlg1903 on September 28, 2018, 01:08:55 PM
I wouldn't say I was a particular fan of levein teams but I certainly respect them for what they are.  The man himself I've had a lot of time for ever since his calling referee bias after that game at mordor with utd.  He's been pretty funny recently too.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on September 28, 2018, 01:27:04 PM
Not a great fan of Craig Levein but he makes his feeling known about this debacle.

He'll give himself a heart attack.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on September 28, 2018, 01:30:02 PM
But seriously, he gets it spot on. Absolutely spot on. With a good bit of anger and feeling too. I hadn't realise that the contract only stipulates that games have to be at Hampden if one of the scum are playing. Once again, we've explicitly written something into the rules (it's not the rules per say, but the contract effectively makes it a rule) based on the requirements of two teams. Staggering.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on September 28, 2018, 02:21:33 PM
appears spfl didnt consult scotrail either
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: tlg1903 on September 28, 2018, 07:08:11 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45682129

Dare I say it but I actually feel some sympathy for Doncaster after reading that.  That said I still see no reason why the fixtures couldn't be played over 2 weekends. 
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on September 28, 2018, 07:18:31 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45682129

Dare I say it but I actually feel some sympathy for Doncaster after reading that.  That said I still see no reason why the fixtures couldn't be played over 2 weekends.

I don't. That smarmy c@nt found a way to shoehorn newco into the league system.....indeed even tried shoehorning them into the SPL at first......riding roughshod over established rules and ignoring the claims of clubs with a far more positive case for admission.

If the SPFL really wanted they could have found a loophole allowing one of the games to be played on an alternative date and/or venue. Fuck Doncaster, fuck the SPFL and fuck the GFA
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: A llad insane on September 28, 2018, 07:46:43 PM
I don't. That smarmy c@nt found a way to shoehorn newco into the league system.....indeed even tried shoehorning them into the SPL at first......riding roughshod over established rules and ignoring the claims of clubs with a far more positive case for admission.

If the SPFL really wanted they could have found a loophole allowing one of the games to be played on an alternative date and/or venue. Fuck Doncaster, fuck the SPFL and fuck the GFA


This ^^^^. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: donsdaft on September 28, 2018, 08:16:46 PM
You called it Ten Caat min.

The only good that could come of this is if it means they get rid of the tosser.

Fuckin creep.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: SeeBass on September 28, 2018, 11:10:07 PM
When was the last time we actually won a meaningful cup game against either of the two Glasgow Giants??  I'm not counting 2008 at Parkhead because it actually led to nothing. At least if we win October 28th one does reach a fourth final in five years under Deek.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: tom_widdows on September 29, 2018, 12:41:58 AM
When was the last time we actually won a meaningful cup game against either of the two Glasgow Giants??  I'm not counting 2008 at Parkhead because it actually led to nothing. At least if we win October 28th one does reach a fourth final in five years under Deek.

Last day of last season

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: SeeBass on September 29, 2018, 01:10:22 AM
In the 'Cup' Tom!!
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on September 29, 2018, 07:33:55 AM
Kris Boyd on League Cup semi final arrangements :

“Aberdeen, especially, have a cheek. It’s the police who want their match with Rangers done and dusted because a minority among the Dons fans cannot behave themselves. Their hatred for Rangers is truly staggering.”

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3277362/aberdeen-rangers-kris-boyd/
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on September 29, 2018, 07:51:28 AM
Kris Boyd on League Cup semi final arrangements :

“Aberdeen, especially, have a cheek. It’s the police who want their match with Rangers done and dusted because a minority among the Dons fans cannot behave themselves. Their hatred for Rangers is truly staggering.”

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3277362/aberdeen-rangers-kris-boyd/

Zero evidence for the police having said that at all. He won't have spoken to a police officer, or anyone at the SFA for this enlightened piece of information that he made up. We do hate the huns, obviously.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on September 29, 2018, 08:02:36 AM
In the 'Cup' Tom!!

Scottish Cup 5th round 2014 at Porkheed
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: manc_don on September 29, 2018, 08:29:00 AM
Zero evidence for the police having said that at all. He won't have spoken to a police officer, or anyone at the SFA for this enlightened piece of information that he made up. We do hate the huns, obviously.

Boyd is a fanny. Although he's right about your last sentance. And rightly so, vermin.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: hebrew on September 29, 2018, 08:45:26 AM
Kris Boyd on League Cup semi final arrangements :

“Aberdeen, especially, have a cheek. It’s the police who want their match with Rangers done and dusted because a minority among the Dons fans cannot behave themselves. Their hatred for Rangers is truly staggering.”

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3277362/aberdeen-rangers-kris-boyd/

I actually thought this was a made up quote when I first read it - how the fuck can it be acceptable for a player currently playing in the SPFL to be allowed to make sweeping inflammatory statements like this without any repercussion!!
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: donsdaft on September 29, 2018, 09:08:01 AM
He's a Hun

The rules are different for them.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 29, 2018, 09:57:29 AM
We can't "behave"? Like Rangers can? I don't recall AFC fans creating major havoc like they've done so frequently, including this/last month in Europe and Manchester being on the biggest scale in recent years.

He's right that we fucking detest them but if he had half a brain or was capable of critical thinking, it's really not "staggering" at all. It's his inability to examine the question why (we hate them) that leaves him perplexed and yet no-one likes them and they don't care apparently.

Boyd is a grade A fuckjob, a horrible disgusting human being.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: BigAl on September 29, 2018, 12:10:05 PM
We can't "behave"? Like Rangers can? I don't recall AFC fans creating major havoc like they've done so frequently, including this/last month in Europe and Manchester being on the biggest scale in recent years.

He's right that we fucking detest them but if he had half a brain or was capable of critical thinking, it's really not "staggering" at all. It's his inability to examine the question why (we hate them) that leaves him perplexed and yet no-one likes them and they don't care apparently.

Boyd is a grade A fuckjob, a horrible disgusting human being.

Nothing left to say on Sumo.
Rocket has said it all and very eloquently  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: baggy89 on September 29, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
Quote
Aberdeen and Hearts are up in arms over kick-off times, venues and no doubt the price of  pies at the national stadium.

Hopefully he’s nae going or there’ll be none left.

Boyd’s just a B&M Bargains version of Robbie Savage’s Primark version of, Minijc.

That article is the the very definition of click bait.

Plug heeded hun cunt.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 02, 2018, 08:58:45 AM
Chief executive Duncan Fraser expects Aberdeen to get 50% of the tickets for the League Cup semi-final against The Rangers on 28 October.


Really have my doubts that Aberdeen will sell 50% of the tickets. A 50-50 allocation to start with but eventually Sevco will get the remaining unsold tckets.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 02, 2018, 09:16:37 AM
Why is this still a thing? I thought that the default was 50-50 these days and that the club decide to return their allocation if they don't believe they can sell it. Looks like the press trying to move the story on from their fucked up semi-final day arrangements.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: dons8321 on October 02, 2018, 10:16:19 AM
Why is this still a thing? I thought that the default was 50-50 these days and that the club decide to return their allocation if they don't believe they can sell it. Looks like the press trying to move the story on from their fucked up semi-final day arrangements.

Why do they have to return any they don't sell - couldn't the Club just take the hit, after all they wouldn't have budgeted for a semi-final appearance.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Tyrant on October 02, 2018, 10:43:36 AM
I actually thought this was a made up quote when I first read it - how the fuck can it be acceptable for a player currently playing in the SPFL to be allowed to make sweeping inflammatory statements like this without any repercussion!!

I suspect you're correct. I don't actually believe that Boyd said anything of the sort.

We're not half desperate to believe any old shite that the tabloids come out with when it suits our anti Rangers agenda.

And for the record I fucking hate them.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 02, 2018, 11:16:07 AM
Why do they have to return any they don't sell - couldn't the Club just take the hit, after all they wouldn't have budgeted for a semi-final appearance.

Yes, they could. I think that they maybe did for the Tims game a couple of seasons ago. They paid for them all in advance to make sure we got the 50-50 split. I'm sure there were still a thousand or so to sell with a week to go? Could be wrong. They should pay for the 50% and then sue the SPFL for the balance of any not sold. Actually, I'd prefer that the club told them to go fuck their competition and just refused to play.

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ramperbamper on October 02, 2018, 11:32:00 AM
I suspect you're correct. I don't actually believe that Boyd said anything of the sort.

We're not half desperate to believe any old shite that the tabloids come out with when it suits our anti Rangers agenda.

And for the record I fucking hate them.

Boys is a paid columnist in The Sun. Of course he said it  :hammer:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 02, 2018, 12:08:44 PM
Boys is a paid columnist in The Sun. Of course he said it  :hammer:

I think half the time they are being paid to allow the paper to put their name to the article and that the article itself is actually written by some apprenctice reporter. Thus the more controversial the article, the better chance the junior  hack has of actually getting a proper gig down the line
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: baggy89 on October 02, 2018, 12:24:51 PM
Some gadgie on twitter suggesting we didn't sell out our 2017 SC Final allocation, which I find hard to believe, given the club told me it was sold out and I got my tickets through other means.

Also someone else saying hibs started selling their allocations last year from the half way line so there could be no demand from the Tims for the unsold tickets.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ramperbamper on October 02, 2018, 12:53:05 PM
I think half the time they are being paid to allow the paper to put their name to the article and that the article itself is actually written by some apprenctice reporter. Thus the more controversial the article, the better chance the junior  hack has of actually getting a proper gig down the line

Possibly some truth in that, but if Kris Boyd's opinion was wildly different from that then he wouldn't have put his name to it.

It's all pantomime though, being a baddie gets your name out there, gets clicks and retweets and sells papers.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 02, 2018, 03:19:43 PM
Talks are to take place over a potential rethink of Scotland's League Cup semi-finals.
Police Scotland and the SPFL are expected to reopen discussions over the ties, which are due to take place at Hampden on Sunday, October 28.
Rangers are scheduled to play Aberdeen at 12pm, with Celtic due to face Hearts later in the day at 7.45pm.


https://stv.tv/sport/football/1431496-rethink-over-plans-for-scottish-league-cup-semi-finals/


Mmmmmm
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 02, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
From Twitter:

The Dons have been offered an initial allocation of 15 thousand tickets for their semi final against Rangers at Hampden. Rangers have been allocated 25 thousand with the promise of more if Aberdeen cannot sell all of their allocation.

I really hope this tweet is a lot of shit, most likely it is.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: manc_don on October 02, 2018, 07:49:06 PM
From Twitter:

The Dons have been offered an initial allocation of 15 thousand tickets for their semi final against Rangers at Hampden. Rangers have been allocated 25 thousand with the promise of more if Aberdeen cannot sell all of their allocation.

I really hope this tweet is a lot of shit, most likely it is.

Haven't they pulled this shit before? Like the idea of doing what hibs allegedly did, although I doubt our club has the balls nor the willpower to do it. The Scottish game really does try to make it hard for you to like it. Which is incredibly frustrating because we've got a good thing.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Kowalski on October 02, 2018, 08:41:34 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45723291

Yeah so let’s move the Hearts game to Edinburgh  ???
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CvB on October 02, 2018, 09:25:43 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45723291

Yeah so let’s move the Hearts game to Edinburgh  ???

to be fair, move us and the huns to Murrayfield and then make Hearts travel to Glasgow is more of a logistical issue than making us and the tims have to travel.

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: manc_don on October 03, 2018, 06:01:27 AM
to be fair, move us and the huns to Murrayfield and then make Hearts travel to Glasgow is more of a logistical issue than making us and the tims have to travel.

Makes perfect sense imo. Despite the fact I'd rather the huns have to travel too
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 03, 2018, 07:20:53 AM
Celtic want a draw to determine which Scottish League Cup semi-final is moved to Murrayfield, if plans to play both matches at Hampden are scrapped.

One of the games will have to be played first for live TV. Is this another ballot.  :laughing:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 03, 2018, 09:14:28 AM
Celtic have a bit of a point as hearts used Murrayfield for 4 games last season whilst their newest pink bus shelter was being erected. and is only a short stroll under the railway away from Tynecastle. Although conveniently forgetting that their ground is only 1.5 miles from Hampden and that they used Hampden as a home ground themselves for a season albeit 20 odd years ago.

Drawing lots to see which tie gets played where seems the fairest way to do it but I think Plod Scotland will throw a spanner in the works and say they want our game at Hampden as it would be a logistical nightmare to police us and sevco arriving into Haymarket and trying to keep us separate on the walk out to Murrayfield.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on October 03, 2018, 09:17:04 AM
i assume some loons have booked hotels and travel etc already , what a fkn omnishambles
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: wee toon red on October 03, 2018, 09:22:28 AM
Celtic have a bit of a point as hearts used Murrayfield for 4 games last season whilst their newest pink bus shelter was being erected. and is only a short stroll under the railway away from Tynecastle. Although conveniently forgetting that their ground is only 1.5 miles from Hampden and that they used Hampden as a home ground themselves for a season albeit 20 odd years ago.

They maybe, kinda, somewhere have a point - although Hearts could argue that Celtic played four games at Hampden last season so it evened itself out...
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 03, 2018, 09:26:11 AM
Apart from the venues what about the kick off times for live TV coverage. One will need to have at least a 17.00 kick off unless they keep our tie as it is which would not be a surprise knowing the idiots in charge.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: hebrew on October 03, 2018, 09:38:45 AM
Hearts v Celtic kick off at 12 at Murrayfield and our game half 3 at Hampden
That allows ample TV coverage if first game goes to extra time and penalties
I think Celtic have a legitimate gripe about playing at Murrayfield but as they didn't bother their arse about supporting Hearts' concerns with late kick off that is now nullified
I'm away to check if there are trains back to Aberdeen after 7pm on a Sunday night so everything is accounted for  ;)
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 03, 2018, 10:07:41 AM
I think that we'll get an earlyish kick off at hampden, probably about 13:30, leaving plenty time to get there. With the other game at 16:00 at Murrayfield.

What a fuck about for the SPFL to get their fucking act in gear. Wankstains.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 03, 2018, 10:54:17 AM
Here is something else to throw in the mix.

Quote
The SPFL may also have to fork out £300,000 to the SRU to hire Murrayfield and it is not clear whether or not Hampden Park Limited will require compensation for the potential fixture loss.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3295909/spfl-murrayfield-betfred-cup-semi-finals/

You cannot make up this shit..... :laughing: :laughing:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: baggy89 on October 03, 2018, 03:59:53 PM
The additional seats should cover most if not all of that. 67k v 52k. I’m sure that’s what the SRU have figured anyway., and rightly so.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 03, 2018, 05:16:04 PM
The additional seats should cover most if not all of that. 67k v 52k. I’m sure that’s what the SRU have figured anyway., and rightly so.

Hearts v Celtic might just manage to fill 67k seats. No chance if its us v sevco
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 03, 2018, 07:10:53 PM
Hearts' Scottish League Cup semi-final against Celtic has been moved to Murrayfield and will kick-off at 13:30 GMT on 28 October and Aberdeen v The Rangers will take place on the same day at Hampden at 16:30.

Or will Celtic put a stop to this new venue before it happens.  :confused:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: dons8321 on October 03, 2018, 07:40:20 PM
Hearts' Scottish League Cup semi-final against Celtic has been moved to Murrayfield and will kick-off at 13:30 GMT on 28 October and Aberdeen v The Rangers will take place on the same day at Hampden at 16:30.

Or will Celtic put a stop to this new venue before it happens.  :confused:

KO time means 2 nights stayover in Glasgow...great.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 10, 2018, 01:59:26 PM
Following a further planning meeting with the SPFL and all relevant parties at Hampden yesterday afternoon, the club can now confirm full ticketing information ahead of the Betfred League Cup Semi Final match against Rangers on Sunday 28th October, KO 4.30pm.
Aberdeen FC were initially allocated 16,800 tickets however, as a result of intensive negotiations we have now successfully secured a guaranteed allocation of 20,300 tickets for our supporters.
This will result in an increased number of premium tickets in the South Stand being available, alongside further tickets in the East Stand.


https://www.afc.co.uk/2018/10/10/semi-final-ticketing-arrangements/

Well done...Hope we get them all sold  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CtS on October 10, 2018, 04:02:46 PM
So it took ‘intensive negotiations’ to ensure we’re only outnumbered by about 10,000?  :dunno:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 10, 2018, 04:56:34 PM
So it took ‘intensive negotiations’ to ensure we’re only outnumbered by about 10,000?  :dunno:

Yep, ridiculous. Due to Hampden being a shite ground, we get offered 14,000 substandard seats and then questioned as to why we cannot sell them. We should be offered half the South, half the North and then continue to sell the East from the top down if we sell those. If there's not a full house then it's because Hampden is a shite venue - no other reason. Row 1 behind the goals is worse than watching in a pub where you can't see the TV. We'll not sell 20,300 because 20,300 people won't part with money to be treated like a second class citizen. It's not AFC's problem that Hampden is shite, so why do we start off with an unfair advantage because it is?
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 10, 2018, 05:12:28 PM
I'm certain I saw late last week that only around 44k of the 50k capacity is sold to fans of both teams. Around 6k is distributed by the SPFL and SFA to corporate sponsors etc. (it was said that the likelihood is a sizeable majority of these corporate fannies would be sevconians anyway so even if we got a 50/50 split we'd still end up outnumbered).

I take it sevco are getting the whole of the North stand. It stinks but absolutely no surprise.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: donsdaft on October 10, 2018, 07:34:32 PM
Sevco getting the whole of the North Stand is as good a reason for not going as I can imagine.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 10, 2018, 08:18:49 PM
Sevco getting the whole of the North Stand is as good a reason for not going as I can imagine.

Confirmed sevco getting all of North Stand. Allocation just shy of 26k in total
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: manc_don on October 10, 2018, 08:20:47 PM
Ridiculous decision.  As much as I hope we sell out our allocation, I also hope no one bothers. Not the clubs fault, squarely the SPFL's (and also the SFA's for sticking with that shitehole).
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CtS on October 10, 2018, 08:27:02 PM
I’ll be very happy (and surprised) if we sell 20k, but let’s be honest - how fucking good would it be to actually witness 30 thousand dejected Huns trudging towards the hampden exit with 15 minutes to go?! I’ve dreamt of that moment... ;D

Hope the red army rise to the occasion.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on October 11, 2018, 08:32:09 AM
I’ll be very happy (and surprised) if we sell 20k, but let’s be honest - how fucking good would it be to actually witness 30 thousand dejected Huns trudging towards the hampden exit with 15 minutes to go?! I’ve dreamt of that moment... ;D

Hope the red army rise to the occasion.

95 LC semi final  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 11, 2018, 08:47:16 AM
Every Cup Semi and Cup Final should be a 50/50 split regardless, unless a club involved specifies it does not requires a full 50% allocation.  :wave:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Dunty on October 11, 2018, 10:24:52 AM
Hearts have sold 5,000 tickets for their semi within the first hour of sales.

Good to see a support actually up for their semi-final.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 11, 2018, 10:40:16 AM
Hearts have sold 5,000 tickets for their semi within the first hour of sales.

Good to see a support actually up for their semi-final.

It does help a bit when you are playing said semi a 400 yard stroll from your own home ground. Makes Hampdung look positively remote in comparison to the arse cheeks' home grounds.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Barcosente on October 11, 2018, 11:17:16 AM
The ridiculous decision to award the Huns more tickets than the Dons means that this is no longer a neutral venue. Spfl have added to the catalogue of what seems to be and comes across as anti Dons decisions.
No problem with the Huns receiving more tickets IF we can sell them, but to give them a bigger allocation straight off is blatant favouritism.

We fought hard and loud about this inequality in the past and once more, the blazers don't give a shit about anyone else other than their favoured teams. Blatant cheating and against the slogan of "fair play" that has been printed by football authorities for years.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CtS on October 11, 2018, 11:25:04 AM
95 LC semi final  :thumbsup:

I’m too young to remember that..... ;)
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 11, 2018, 12:14:15 PM
I'll never forget that semi. Wife was in labour, I was watching the game on a portable in the corner as the midwives were dealing with her drip and other stuff. Daughter was born less than hour after the final whistle.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CvB on October 11, 2018, 12:54:00 PM
Sevco getting the whole of the North Stand is as good a reason for not going as I can imagine.

Correct. We've been thinking about this one for a few days and have decided not to go. Normally have a full bus load. Not this year.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 11, 2018, 01:14:22 PM
Correct. We've been thinking about this one for a few days and have decided not to go. Normally have a full bus load. Not this year.

Snap.

The Scottish media will make a big thing of this if the Aberdeen fans fail to buy their allocation of the tickets but who cares anymore. Fans of other clubs have to stand up against this total disregard for all clubs in Scottish Football apart from the Glasgow Two.

Our club may suffer but they want a strong Sevco in the Scottish Premiership.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 11, 2018, 01:29:12 PM
Correct. We've been thinking about this one for a few days and have decided not to go. Normally have a full bus load. Not this year.

It'd be good if you - and others - wrote to the club letting them know yer reasons.

We should have got the whole of the North stand and one of the ends, they should have got the larger South and most of the other end. Then we could return by section in the shared end. We don't have enough seats with a proper view. We're being discriminated against. For not being weegie cunts.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 11, 2018, 01:30:38 PM
There were 43,000 at Red Parkhead but it sounds we may struggle to see half that for this semi.

I reckon the biggest factor is most of us thought we would win that final but most think we will lose this.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 11, 2018, 02:05:55 PM
There were 43,000 at Red Parkhead but it sounds we may struggle to see half that for this semi.

I reckon the biggest factor is most of us thought we would win that final but most think we will lose this.

Yep, I'd agree. Longevity since we were in a final, and the fact it was a final, too.

That shouldn't preclude us from being treated the same as our opponents though.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 11, 2018, 02:20:32 PM
Yep, I'd agree. Longevity since we were in a final, and the fact it was a final, too.

That shouldn't preclude us from being treated the same as our opponents though.

There is an argument that rather than 50/50, the ticket allocation should be shared based on the proportion of how many season tickets each club sells.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CtS on October 11, 2018, 02:48:43 PM
There is an argument that rather than 50/50, the ticket allocation should be shared based on the proportion of how many season tickets each club sells.

I look forward to them trying to implement that policy if it ends up being an OF final....
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Tyrant on October 11, 2018, 03:30:43 PM
There is an argument that rather than 50/50, the ticket allocation should be shared based on the proportion of how many season tickets each club sells.


But there's a bigger argument for it being a neutral venue so all clubs participating should have a 50/50 split available to them unless they choose otherwise.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 11, 2018, 04:33:07 PM
There is an argument that rather than 50/50, the ticket allocation should be shared based on the proportion of how many season tickets each club sells.

There is. It would be perfectly hunnish like.

I have no problem with the dons giving back tickets either, and expect them to do so. I do have an issue with being given a second rate viewing experience in comparison to the opposition in a neutral venue. I hope everyone refuses to buy seats in the East stand.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 11, 2018, 04:48:15 PM
The SFA/SPFL and all the Scottish Media are praying for a Sevco V Celtic Cup final.

Let's just hope that Aberdeen V Hearts can do Scottish Football a favour and contest the Betfred Cup Final.


 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: tamzarian on October 11, 2018, 05:48:05 PM
South Stand Lower bweefs secured.  Get intae these cunts. 
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 11, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
South Stand Lower bweefs secured.  Get intae these cunts.

Perfect. I'll bring the car.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: A llad insane on October 11, 2018, 09:19:04 PM
95 LC semi final  :thumbsup:

76 LC semi final  :thumbsup:  5 1  ;)
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 11, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
76 LC semi final  :thumbsup:  5 1  ;)

Jocky Scott hat trick. Ally MacLeod........absolutely bonkers but an absolute gentleman
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 11, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
76 LC semi final  :thumbsup:  5 1  ;)

A Drew Jarvie screamer  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Elgindon on October 11, 2018, 09:56:28 PM

 Mind waiting up to watch the highlights without knowing the score. Stunned   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: donsdaft on October 11, 2018, 10:03:01 PM
The SFA/SPFL and all the Scottish Media are praying for a Sevco V Celtic Cup final.

Let's just hope that Aberdeen V Hearts can do Scottish Football a favour and contest the Betfred Cup Final.


 :thumbsup:






Do you think the they'd take their chance to give us the proddy end for that one?




Nah, neither do I.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on October 11, 2018, 11:22:15 PM
There were 43,000 at Red Parkhead but it sounds we may struggle to see half that for this semi.

I reckon the biggest factor is most of us thought we would win that final but most think we will lose this.

Yip. We are at an obvious disadvantage anyway due to distance etc, but if we were flying and the huns were struggling, we would get a substantially bigger crowd than we're going to. Most of the people who post on here will be going, all things being equal etc, but for the people who dip in and out of football supporting - a lot of the folk at ParkRed, for example - it just won't do for them.

There'll also be those who have the view; "late kick off time, everyone's going to be steaming, it'll be carnage" (and we all pray that is indeed the case), and it'll put them off.

It's been 18 years since we last played a team called R*ng*rs at Hampden.  And we certainly owe them one from that day. Bring it on.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Tyrant on October 12, 2018, 08:53:41 AM
Well put as ever Bobby. I hope McInnes has the intelligence to try and use that day to motivate.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 12, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
Well put as ever Bobby. I hope McInnes has the intelligence to try and use that day to motivate.

He doesn't have any intelligence and neither can he motivate, even though this is a basic, fundamental requirement of the job.

It was last century when I last saw us lose to the OF at Hampden and I've never missed Aberdeen winning against them there since I was at school, well over 40 years ago. We've lost plenty at Hampden since then but I chose not to go.

When I was a kid, I hated the stay-aways who only turned up for big games, filling Pittodrie on European nights, swelling Hampden for the finals but not turning up for the Motherwells and St Mirrens. I referred to them as glory-hunters.

This was because I didn't have a choice. I was an Aberdeen supporter and supporting your team is what we did, through thick and thin. After self employment 25 years ago and having a family etc. I find that I do have a choice on how to spend my time and my money. I enjoyed watching live football 3 or 4 times a month back then. I don't enjoy watching AFC 8 or 10 times a year now and I make a point of going to lower league football to supplement my addiction and scratch the itch. I'm definitely not a glory-hunter therefore and I look forward to the day when Aberdeen beat Celtic or Rangers at the national stadium and I wasn't there to see it. That hasn't happened since the 70's and it ain't happening in the upcoming semi either. Gerrard wants to win. McInnes wants to be in employment. Winners go for it. Jobsworths don't take risks.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: A96red on October 12, 2018, 05:13:58 PM
Well put as ever Bobby. I hope McInnes has the intelligence to try and use that day to motivate.

If our players need to be motivated by the manager for this game against the Huns , we're fucked before the kick-off.

And McInnes is intelligent enough to know not to waste any time on a game that took place 18 years ago , that just about none of our squad will give a fuck about , to motivate them.  I hope he uses his time trying to organise the team to compete with and outplay the Huns.





Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 15, 2018, 12:36:36 PM
According to the latest rumours the latest Aberdeen ticket sales for semi are under 9000.

Will be lucky if we reach 15000.   :frown:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 15, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
Basically, all the seats with an actual view of the pitch have been sold then? The seats with a binoculars-only view of the pitch have not been.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: manc_don on October 16, 2018, 08:28:24 AM
Hardly surprising so few have been sold.  Fans have been completely sold up the river with this one. Shame, because the huns will love it.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: wee toon red on October 16, 2018, 09:06:43 AM
If (when) we don't sell all our tickets for this one it'll be hard to complain about future allocations. For the club to stand up for the fans - for once - and argue for more than initially allocated, and be given more, and then not get the support of the fans is pretty poor.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 16, 2018, 09:45:23 AM
If (when) we don't sell all our tickets for this one it'll be hard to complain about future allocations. For the club to stand up for the fans - for once - and argue for more than initially allocated, and be given more, and then not get the support of the fans is pretty poor.


I believe this will be the way forward until Aberdeen and the rest of the SPFL clubs come to their senses regarding the bias regarding Celtic and Rangers. With total TV coverage these days no need to travel down on a Sunday to Glasgow and watch your club play anymore. Is the lack of tickets sales down to fans making a statement or just an excuse not to travel, I don't really know but I can see it getting worse due to fan apathy in the future.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Redday1903 on October 16, 2018, 09:50:43 AM

I believe this will be the way forward until Aberdeen and the rest of the SPFL clubs come to their senses regarding the bias regarding Celtic and Rangers. With total TV coverage these days no need to travel down on a Sunday to Glasgow and watch your club play anymore. Is the lack of tickets sales down to fans making a statement or just an excuse not to travel, I don't really know but I can see it getting worse due to fan apathy in the future.

I disagree with that.  If the club took any notice of fan feeling they'd have known a lot of people were getting sick and tired of the game and unlikely to travel.  I've not missed a Dons game at Hampden for decades but due to the way the SPFL and SFA are acting towards the club, I'm not putting a penny into their competition.  I feel bad that I'm not going, but there's no way I'm funding the SPFL.  If we get to the final there's absolutely no reason we shouldn't get a 50/50 split.  The attendance at the semi shouldn't be a factor
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Redday1903 on October 16, 2018, 09:53:34 AM
If (when) we don't sell all our tickets for this one it'll be hard to complain about future allocations. For the club to stand up for the fans - for once - and argue for more than initially allocated, and be given more, and then not get the support of the fans is pretty poor.

Apologies, this was post I meant to quote above
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: wee toon red on October 16, 2018, 11:51:05 AM
Apologies, this was post I meant to quote above

If people aren't going to the semi as some kind of anti spfl or sfa thing then that's their right. But to shift maybe 15,000 tickets for a semi and expect 23,000 for the final is a bit rich - presumably those same people will continue their "protest" for the final anyway?
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Redday1903 on October 16, 2018, 12:43:17 PM
If people aren't going to the semi as some kind of anti spfl or sfa thing then that's their right. But to shift maybe 15,000 tickets for a semi and expect 23,000 for the final is a bit rich - presumably those same people will continue their "protest" for the final anyway?

A cup final is completely different and assuming there's sufficient demand, then a 50/50 split is correct, regardless of how many attended the semi.  I'm not having a protest, I'm just sick to the bones of the way we get treated by the authorities in this country and refuse to fund their competition.  I hope we get to the final and get a 50pc split on tickets, but even if we do, I'll give it a miss.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: TheDeeDon on October 16, 2018, 12:53:13 PM
If people aren't going to the semi as some kind of anti spfl or sfa thing then that's their right. But to shift maybe 15,000 tickets for a semi and expect 23,000 for the final is a bit rich - presumably those same people will continue their "protest" for the final anyway?

It should always be a 50/50 split, with the understanding that if one team can't sell out their allocation then the other team has an option to obtain more.

It doesn't matter what club it is, there will always be more 'fans' looking for tickets for cup finals or the big meaningful games than most of the meaningless games, that's always been the fickle nature of football in general not just Aberdeen.  We didn't even sell out Pittodrie for our next home game after we took 40000+ fans to Parkhead for the League Cup final in 2014.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Barcosente on October 16, 2018, 01:27:20 PM
It's a supposedly neutral venue. Therefore the initial ticket allocation should reflect this. Only after a deadline for ticket sales has passed, should the imbalance be addressed.
To do otherwise makes it a home match for the side with more tickets.

We went through this nonsense for the infamous 2000 cup final, when the hordes received more tickets and turned up wearing orange I seem to recall.

It seems the authorities or The Rangers can't get this fair concept of neutrality through their neanderthal sculls.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 16, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
If people aren't going to the semi as some kind of anti spfl or sfa thing then that's their right. But to shift maybe 15,000 tickets for a semi and expect 23,000 for the final is a bit rich - presumably those same people will continue their "protest" for the final anyway?

Bullshit. Have you seen our allocation of tickets? We get nothing in the North stand, we get half of a stand that has a decent view, plus 13K tickets in a stand with a shite view that no-one should be buying in. We're being sold substandard tickets in a venue fucking miles away. The huns get about 16K of tickets with a prime view and lo and behold they get sold immediately. Somebody earlier in the thread compared Hertz at Murrayfield, but we'd have sold much more than our Hampden sales by now if we were playing there. Sounds to me like we've sold our tickets for the good area and not for the shite area.

A fair allocation would have seen huns in the South and West and us in the East and North. We'd have had 12K or so of good seats and 10-12K of shite seats. The shite seats unsold could be given back to the hun SFA for sale to the hun huns.

It really is as simple as saying we're being offered a second class seat - still at a shite time for travel - and expecting people to attend. If we can take 13-14K, that would be a great achievement. Our final ticket allocation - unlikely as it is to be required - should not be affected by that. It's like giving a kid a mouldy carrot for main course and then denying them pudding because they didnae finish it.

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: wee toon red on October 16, 2018, 03:43:37 PM
Bullshit. Have you seen our allocation of tickets? We get nothing in the North stand, we get half of a stand that has a decent view, plus 13K tickets in a stand with a shite view that no-one should be buying in. We're being sold substandard tickets in a venue fucking miles away. The huns get about 16K of tickets with a prime view and lo and behold they get sold immediately. Somebody earlier in the thread compared Hertz at Murrayfield, but we'd have sold much more than our Hampden sales by now if we were playing there. Sounds to me like we've sold our tickets for the good area and not for the shite area.

A fair allocation would have seen huns in the South and West and us in the East and North. We'd have had 12K or so of good seats and 10-12K of shite seats. The shite seats unsold could be given back to the hun SFA for sale to the hun huns.

It really is as simple as saying we're being offered a second class seat - still at a shite time for travel - and expecting people to attend. If we can take 13-14K, that would be a great achievement. Our final ticket allocation - unlikely as it is to be required - should not be affected by that. It's like giving a kid a mouldy carrot for main course and then denying them pudding because they didnae finish it.

I don't for a minute disagree that we're treated as second class citizens when it comes to the arrangements, and, indeed, football as a whole. However, you either go to see and support your team, enjoy the atmosphere and hopefully celebrate a win. If people aren't going to the game because they can't get the best seat in the house then the TV companies have definitely won.

There's some list of excuses why people aren't buying tickets, from your suggested "I don't want to sit in a shite seat" to others' "the SFA/SPFL are all Hun bastards" when the reality is that people aren't going because they're not really that interested and/or they expect us to get beat.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 16, 2018, 03:58:21 PM
... the reality is that people aren't going because they're not really that interested and/or they expect us to get beat.

There be truth
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Redday1903 on October 16, 2018, 04:02:35 PM
I don't for a minute disagree that we're treated as second class citizens when it comes to the arrangements, and, indeed, football as a whole. However, you either go to see and support your team, enjoy the atmosphere and hopefully celebrate a win. If people aren't going to the game because they can't get the best seat in the house then the TV companies have definitely won.

There's some list of excuses why people aren't buying tickets, from your suggested "I don't want to sit in a shite seat" to others' "the SFA/SPFL are all Hun bastards" when the reality is that people aren't going because they're not really that interested and/or they expect us to get beat.

That last bit is simply untrue.  It's all well and good your romantic description of everyone uniting to support the team but there's people like me who have simply had enough of being treated as second class due to the Glasgow FA pandering to their beloved brothers.  I'm sick of the SPFL and SFA and won't fund them
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: donsdaft on October 16, 2018, 04:16:42 PM
The North Stand should have been a 50/50 split.
Concession tickets should have been made available in the North Stand.

If I take the grandson behind the goal he will see fuck all.
He would see next to fuck all if everyone remained seated.

If I go to the front row to avoid people standing then he might get a view of the goalies arse.

If I was a 70 year old mannie that can't afford a full price ticket then the same applies.

So

Half the North stand with the front 10 rows (or whatever) reserved for auld mannies and folk with kids.

It's not difficult is it?


SIT DOON!
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 16, 2018, 05:30:16 PM
The North Stand should have been a 50/50 split.
Concession tickets should have been made available in the North Stand.

If I take the grandson behind the goal he will see fuck all.
He would see next to fuck all if everyone remained seated.

If I go to the front row to avoid people standing then he might get a view of the goalies arse.

If I was a 70 year old mannie that can't afford a full price ticket then the same applies.

So

Half the North stand with the front 10 rows (or whatever) reserved for auld mannies and folk with kids.

It's not difficult is it?


SIT DOON!

The reason I suggested the whole of the North stand for us is because it's smaller than the South. We basically split the 50-50 North-East v South-West (or North-West v South-East if preferred).

I sympathise with the idea that there might not be a full dons support and I think that the additional hun should be catered for if we send back tickets. We get the good view of the North and one of the ends and the tickets we don't sell in the ends get given back to the hun with appropriate segregation. The problem with splitting down the middle is that you end up with an empty part of the stadium between the dons fans in the South and those in the North and we should be amicable to a full stadium (just as ICT were at Parkhead). So it has to be one full wing each as those are the stands that are available.

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... the reality is that people aren't going because they're not really that interested and/or they expect us to get beat.

I accept that point of view, and I do think that there's a large element of our support who would only have attended if we were likely to win (see ICT). However there is still a signifcant number who won't be going because of the second class seat allocation.

Put it this way - and bearing in mind how much of a superfan I am - if Tamzarian had text (whatsapp ken, it's the 21st century) me to say that he could only get tickets to the right of section I-1 below, I'd have told him not to bother. I just wouldn't have bought tickets for such a shite seat. Anyone going online to purchase would be faced with that too, and I would say it is a lot to ask folk to look past.

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Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: manc_don on October 16, 2018, 07:58:26 PM
Some guy on fez book saying he'd gone to the club shop today and we'd only sold 8,200. Hopefully a decent performance at the weekend may say a few more to get tickets.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Elgindon on October 16, 2018, 08:16:30 PM

 15k is about our average for semis the last few years.Hope we wouldnt be too far off that again
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 17, 2018, 07:43:05 AM
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The Scottish Professional Football League has written to Aberdeen to voice anger at the club's refusal to sell League Cup semi-final tickets block by block, which would have allowed unsold tickets to be sold to Rangers fans. The Dons have sold 10,000 tickets from their allocation of 20,300 amid fears that unsold tickets could cost the four semi-finalists a cut of an additional six-figure sum.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aberdeen-another-collision-furious-spfl-13428463

It has started already.
Bring it on.
What a fucking shame for the SPFL and the 10.000 Sevco fans  :wave:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: manc_don on October 17, 2018, 08:56:38 AM
Good on afc. Fuck the weegie bastards
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: wee toon red on October 17, 2018, 09:09:52 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aberdeen-another-collision-furious-spfl-13428463

It has started already.
Bring it on.
What a fucking shame for the SPFL and the 10.000 Sevco fans  :wave:

Aye, good on the club again.

Pity no-one wants to buy the shite seats/the trains aren't running on time/I hate the HunFA but won't go help the team try beat them etc  ;)

In all seriousness, it's great that Milne (Cormack?) seems to have grown a backbone but unfortunate, and short-sighted, that the board didn't wake up before a large portion of the support had thrown in the towel.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 17, 2018, 10:48:42 AM
Will be interesting to see if the completely unbiased Scottish media will support the Dons or take the side of the SPFL and the Sevco fans on this one.

Aberdeen have played a blinder on this one regardless of the attendance.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 17, 2018, 11:01:25 AM
Will be interesting to see if the completely unbiased Scottish media will support the Dons or take the side of the SPFL and the Sevco fans on this one.

Aberdeen have played a blinder on this one regardless of the attendance.  :thumbsup:

I have no desire to do any research on how many tickets we have already sold or how many we will sell. On here and on the hat the consensus view is we have sold around 12-13k. But on Abmad there's a guy who has posted that we've already sold 15k and backs it up with some facts and figures....whether these are genuine I've no idea but FWIW i think we will get fairly close to selling out our allocation....within 1500 or so....especially if we have a good result against Fartz at the weekend.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 17, 2018, 11:11:29 AM
Aberdeen have played a blinder on this one regardless of the attendance.  :thumbsup:

No they haven't. Two thirds of our allocation are for seats that have an unacceptably awful view. They should have insisted that we either be given half the North stand or all of it. We're now just cutting our nose off to spite our faces (correctly) without a public statement of why we're doing so. It's a fucking mess, and we'll be left with a smaller support as a result of it.

We should be making a public statement to say why we're not selling the tickets block by block and slating the SFA/SFPL on our allocation in the process. It's fucking obvious that the seats that are closer to the sides have the best view, and that they would sell before those in the centre of the ends.  This could all have been avoided, and we could still hand back some tickets to der Hun so that the overall semis pot could be higher. This is not an AFC issue, and the club should be making that very clear.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 17, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
No they haven't. Two thirds of our allocation are for seats that have an unacceptably awful view. They should have insisted that we either be given half the North stand or all of it. We're now just cutting our nose off to spite our faces (correctly) without a public statement of why we're doing so. It's a fucking mess, and we'll be left with a smaller support as a result of it.

We should be making a public statement to say why we're not selling the tickets block by block and slating the SFA/SFPL on our allocation in the process. It's fucking obvious that the seats that are closer to the sides have the best view, and that they would sell before those in the centre of the ends.  This could all have been avoided, and we could still hand back some tickets to der Hun so that the overall semis pot could be higher. This is not an AFC issue, and the club should be making that very clear.


I may be wrong but am sure I read somewhere that Aberdeen asked for half the North stand but SPFL refused them that option to keep the huns onside.

Awaiting another Aberdeen statement to confirm or deny the D.R article is true or false.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Jute on October 17, 2018, 01:12:46 PM
While I agree with any fuck the Tribute Act actions I would say that if the numbers sold suggested in the Daily Ranger are correct then we can have absolutely no complaint if the SFA/SPFL slash our allocation for future games. 
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 17, 2018, 01:36:20 PM
While I agree with any fuck the Tribute Act actions I would say that if the numbers sold suggested in the Daily Ranger are correct then we can have absolutely no complaint if the SFA/SPFL slash our allocation for future games.

Yes we can. They have 15K of tickets in seats with an actual view. More than double. They've fucked us.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 17, 2018, 01:39:17 PM

I may be wrong but am sure I read somewhere that Aberdeen asked for half the North stand but SPFL refused them that option to keep the huns onside.

Awaiting another Aberdeen statement to confirm or deny the D.R article is true or false.

Yep, that's certainly what the Hun statement said happened.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Dunty on October 17, 2018, 02:11:27 PM
I have no desire to do any research on how many tickets we have already sold or how many we will sell. On here and on the hat the consensus view is we have sold around 12-13k. But on Abmad there's a guy who has posted that we've already sold 15k and backs it up with some facts and figures....whether these are genuine I've no idea but FWIW i think we will get fairly close to selling out our allocation....within 1500 or so....especially if we have a good result against Fartz at the weekend.

We've sold under 10,000 according to the ticket office.

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 17, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
We've sold under 10,000 according to the ticket office.

Good. That will teach the SPFL a lesson they will never forget. Aberdeen FC and their fans have principles unlike a few clubs I could mention.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ten Caat on October 17, 2018, 05:28:47 PM
Good. That will teach the SPFL a lesson they will never forget. Aberdeen FC and their fans have principles unlike a few clubs I could mention.  :thumbsup:

Id prefer a few more trophies in the cabinet. It's all about winning
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CvB on October 17, 2018, 09:45:25 PM
regardless of how many tickets us, or any other club sell for any particular game held at that glasgow shitehole, it is a game held at a neutral stadium, so the option of a 50/50 split should always be on the table.
Of course, a fair draw for the home and away team should also happen but since we're stuck with that cunting place we will always have to accept that the "traditional" ends will always be there and we will always have to put up with the standard pandering to either of the cheeks.

Absolute cunts to a man, both the huns and the corrupt pricks that run our game and fuck the lot of them.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 18, 2018, 08:24:46 AM
Was just thinking of the days when the Cup semi-finals were played midweek on a Wednesday night and Aberdeen usually took around 4.000 away fans and nobody cared. This was the days of no live TV coverage with the radio the only means of knowing the live score.

My opinion is all cup semis should be held at a neutral stadium as near half way between the clubs involved on a Saturday afternoon at 15.00 regardless if the Glasgow two are involved. Play both ties at the same time. Live TV coverage one on BT and one on Sky.

All ticket sales would be 50/50 if a club can not sell all their allocation tough shit still 50/50. Do not give left over tickets to the other club.

 :thumbsup:

Ps...Why should semi finals have to be played at Hamden at all. is it because the owners of the stadium sats it must be so. Play them round the country to full houses.

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Barcosente on October 18, 2018, 11:01:36 AM
While I agree with any fuck the Tribute Act actions I would say that if the numbers sold suggested in the Daily Ranger are correct then we can have absolutely no complaint if the SFA/SPFL slash our allocation for future games.

Yes we do have a complaint. All clubs have a legitimate complaint if  a 50/50 share of tickets is not initially offered. It is supposed to be a neutral venue, not a home match for either of the 2 big Glasgow clubs. It's bad enough that the match is being played on their doorstep.

I keep harking back to it, but it's a point that people, supporters of the big 2 and the ruling authorities can't seem to get their heads around despite it being relatively simple.
It's a neutral venue FFS!
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 18, 2018, 01:28:52 PM
Yes we do have a complaint. All clubs have a legitimate complaint if  a 50/50 share of tickets is not initially offered. It is supposed to be a neutral venue, not a home match for either of the 2 big Glasgow clubs. It's bad enough that the match is being played on their doorstep.

I keep harking back to it, but it's a point that people, supporters of the big 2 and the ruling authorities can't seem to get their heads around despite it being relatively simple.
It's a neutral venue FFS!

Exactly. We got a near full house the few times the hun have visited, so the evidence is there that if the stadium was in Aberdeen we'd easily sell our allocation. That teams should be punished due to their location is certainly something worth discussing. It certainly isn't neutral.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Stewart on October 18, 2018, 01:46:28 PM
https://www.afc.co.uk/2018/10/18/semi-final-update/

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With just over a week to go until our Betfred Cup Semi-Final against Rangers at Hampden Park just over 9,000 tickets have been sold to The Red Army. Despite strong initial sales, particularly from our supporters’ clubs, overall ticket sales for the match have fallen short of the demand expected.

Given current sales figures, with the SPFL recording less than 100 being sold by Aberdeen FC today, the SPFL have now taken back certain sections of the East Stand. In return, the SPFL will issue the Club with an additional allocation of seats in the South Stand Upper and Lower tickets. This will necessitate the relocation of some supporters to alternative seats and the Club will be in touch with any affected fans to finalise arrangements.

With 5,500 tickets still available for our supporters, and access to a further allocation if we demonstrate additional demand in the next few days, the focus now quickly turns to building on the tickets that have been sold to fulfil the remainder of our allocation and ensure that the team walk out to a wall of noise from Dons supporters in attendance.

We must now ALL PLAY OUR PART in building upon this current sales figure to ensure we have fantastic backing at Hampden next Sunday.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 18, 2018, 02:13:10 PM
Only 9.000 tickets sold...So what. Not bothered.

We sell a lot less than that when we visit Ibrox and Parkhead and have won there.

No point in listening to what the Scottish media say on this matter as they are supporting only one team to reach the final anyway.

The team has to turn up on the day and reach the Final be it with 9.000 or 15.000 fans.


Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: BigAl on October 18, 2018, 02:27:26 PM
The wanking themselves into a frenzy in the Weegie offices of the The Retard and The Hun at this.

Who gives a fuck what they think ::)

Fuck the lot of them and all those who hang on every word they print.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 18, 2018, 02:34:27 PM
9,000 is about the number of acceptable view seats. It's not bad. We'll probably get another few thousand before the game, especially if we do well on Saturday.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 18, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
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...ensure that the team walk out to a wall of noise from Dons supporters in attendance.

We must now ALL PLAY OUR PART in building upon this current sales figure to ensure we have fantastic backing at Hampden next Sunday.

If our manager ever puts out a team that believes it can win and actually tries to win the big games then he might deserve a "wall of noise" and "fantastic backing".

If our chairman hadn't lied to us over 20 years ago about "the product" being his main priority, the club might have found a consistency of support in every single year of this century.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 18, 2018, 03:52:44 PM
This is some of the shit we will be putting up with for a while:

Tam McManus ( whoever the fuck he is )

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“After all the moaning and crying about the semi-final kick-off times, Aberdeen still can’t sell their allocation of tickets.“Only sold 9,000 to date? That right? Poor show and frankly a little embarrassing for a club who claim to be the third biggest in the country.”

Let's just win this match and we will see how much noise 9.000 odd Aberdeen fans can make in front of the Scottish Media live on TV.. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CvB on October 18, 2018, 03:55:01 PM
9,000 is about the number of acceptable view seats. It's not bad. We'll probably get another few thousand before the game, especially if we do well on Saturday.

Given that the tickets we have already sold for the sections that that the SPFL have reclaimed, is that still the case?

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CtS on October 18, 2018, 04:41:36 PM
It’ll be quite satisfying if the dons win AND cash in on the fact there’s 40,000 Huns there to see us do it  :dance:

Cheers for the blue pound ya weegie minks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: wee toon red on October 18, 2018, 05:09:37 PM
This is some of the shit we will be putting up with for a while:

Tam McManus ( whoever the fuck he is )
 
Let's just win this match and we will see how much noise 9.000 odd Aberdeen fans can make in front of the Scottish Media live on TV.. :thumbsup:

I agree with Tam McManus. Total embarrassment the club kicking up such a fuss and the supporters letting them down with such a pish turnout.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Jute on October 18, 2018, 05:45:29 PM
9,000 is about the number of acceptable view seats. It's not bad. We'll probably get another few thousand before the game, especially if we do well on Saturday.

Shame we are not getting any of these acceptable view seats because of a piss poor turnout.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 18, 2018, 06:01:32 PM
I would agree with some folk on here if this was for the Final it would look bad but it's not.

We were shafted by the SPFL again to appease the only club that matters in Scottish football.

Unlike some other football fans Aberdeen fans have principals, but the Scottish Football Media turn it around and try to make us a laughing stock in Scottish Football.

Good on the fans  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: A llad insane on October 18, 2018, 08:40:13 PM
Good. That will teach the SPFL a lesson they will never forget. Aberdeen FC and their fans have principles unlike a few clubs I could mention.  :thumbsup:

Really ? How do you work that out ? the spfl will be even more delighted the hun hordes will increase in numbers.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CvB on October 18, 2018, 09:39:55 PM
I would agree with some folk on here if this was for the Final it would look bad but it's not.

We were shafted by the SPFL again to appease the only club that matters in Scottish football.

Unlike some other football fans Aberdeen fans have principals, but the Scottish Football Media turn it around and try to make us a laughing stock in Scottish Football.

Good on the fans  :thumbsup:

100% agree.

Lets look at the semi final in 2015, I've quoted this one to a few weedgies on twitter and it seems to have shut them up.

2015, league cup semi, Ross County vrs celtic, at hampden, 22k. So, where was the clamour for tickets from the minks then? Does that have any impact on any future tickets they get allocated?

Does it fuck.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 18, 2018, 10:59:21 PM
Shame we are not getting any of these acceptable view seats because of a piss poor turnout.

So people should just accept a fucking awful seat just to ensure that other fans get their good seats? You wouldn't keep returning to a restaurant that gave you shite food just because you know the owner. At some point you have to question the notion that you should just turn up at all costs. A shite time, a shite day, a shite location and we're expected just to sit down in our shite seats and watch just so that we can do our duty as fans. At what point does having the piss taken out of you as a customer get taken too far? I think we've found our saturation point. As I said earlier, if I'd gone onto the website and seen only those shite tickets left there's no way on earth I'd be going. Why is it that you think people should just keep on allowing themselves to be made a fool of? Just so we can say that we've got a great support?
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: tlg1903 on October 18, 2018, 11:07:46 PM
I was right behind the goal at the other end of the park the last time we beat oldco at hampden.  The view was absolutely fine that evening I can assure you.  In my opinion any aberdeen fan able to attend this match should do so regardless of the surrounding hyperbole.  Our team will need us.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on October 18, 2018, 11:21:55 PM
I was right behind the goal at the other end of the park the last time we beat oldco at hampden.  The view was absolutely fine that evening I can assure you.  In my opinion any aberdeen fan able to attend this match should do so regardless of the surrounding hyperbole.  Our team will need us.

Exactly. Hampden (seated) has always been shite. Why people are now citing it as an excuse to not support their team is fucking baffling.

But that's our support these days.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 18, 2018, 11:51:49 PM
Exactly. Hampden (seated) has always been shite. Why people are now citing it as an excuse to not support their team is fucking baffling.

But that's our support these days.

It's the notion that you should forego being treated fairly to provide that support. Does being a great supporter trump understanding when you're getting the piss taken out of you? It's always been shite, so we should continue going?

tlg, unless you were a camera man, then you weren't right behind the goal, you were about 40 metres away.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on October 19, 2018, 12:25:34 AM
It's the notion that you should forego being treated fairly to provide that support. Does being a great supporter trump understanding when you're getting the piss taken out of you? It's always been shite, so we should continue going?

tlg, unless you were a camera man, then you weren't right behind the goal, you were about 40 metres away.

Who mentioned being a great supporter?
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: tlg1903 on October 19, 2018, 12:30:11 AM
Don't care, still want to go.  I think AFC have reacted brilliantly throughout this whole mess and this is not the time for hissy fits.  If the club were complicit then fair enough but there's a cup final up for grabs for goodness sake. 

Don't do that, don't tell me how well I saw that match. Attending that game was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my life and I wouldn't swap any part of it, stadium included.

I say again, to everyone reading this post.  If you are able to attend this cup semi final against our most hated rival then I implore you to do so.   Quite frankly, it's pretty fucking pathetic I should even have to be posting this.

 
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: donsdaft on October 19, 2018, 08:05:07 AM
So, you think we are going to be allowed to win do you?
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 19, 2018, 08:29:07 AM
Who mentioned being a great supporter?

Nobody, apologies, it was badly phrased. The question should have been: at what point does supporting the club become more important than actually being able to see the game? For me, it occurs when you have to sit a fucking mile away*. I think the expectation on fans just to turn up regardless is a little bit like telling them to "get behind" the move to Westhill. Rather appropriately we're asking fans to behave like sheep and eschew all thinking. That's what I pretty much do as a rule, but I'm saying that my line is drawn at about section "I" at Hampden as given it's a Sunday then I won't be boozing I want to enjoy a good game of fitba. It's about watching the game for me, not just turning up because of my faith.

tlg, I have a lot of sympathy for that view, but I disagree that the club have acted brilliantly. I think they've tried their best (like they did with the Devlin case, and the recent statements), but I suspect that they've gone into the meeting asking for the wrong thing again. We should have had that whole North stand, or half of it with the option to leave an end empty.

*"The two end stands are up to 140 metres away from the pitch, due to Hampden retaining its bowl shape after it was redeveloped" (from Wikipedia - seems a little incorrect, but it's still miles).
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 19, 2018, 08:29:29 AM
So, you think we are going to be allowed to win do you?

We'll tank the hun cunts.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on October 19, 2018, 08:35:19 AM
Nobody, apologies, it was badly phrased. The question should have been: at what point does supporting the club become more important than actually being able to see the game? For me, it occurs when you have to sit a fucking mile away*. I think the expectation on fans just to turn up regardless is a little bit like telling them to "get behind" the move to Westhill. Rather appropriately we're asking fans to behave like sheep and eschew all thinking. That's what I pretty much do as a rule, but I'm saying that my line is drawn at about section "I" at Hampden as given it's a Sunday then I won't be boozing I want to enjoy a good game of fitba. It's about watching the game for me, not just turning up because of my faith.


I do agree with you.  But what I'm saying is that this isn't a new thing, Hampden hasn't all of a sudden become a crap stadium, it has been for 20+ years.  Why has it all of a sudden become an issue and an excuse/reason not to go to a semi final?  We all know that if it was a final all the tickets would have gone by now.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ramperbamper on October 19, 2018, 08:51:11 AM
It's the notion that you should forego being treated fairly to provide that support. Does being a great supporter trump understanding when you're getting the piss taken out of you? It's always been shite, so we should continue going?

tlg, unless you were a camera man, then you weren't right behind the goal, you were about 40 metres away.

As has been established, this sort of pish has been going on for decades. Folk can either chuck it, or they can use the injustice and anger in a positive way and get a siege mentality going. Heard that the latter option has worked quite well for us in the past  ;)
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 19, 2018, 08:58:40 AM
As has been established, this sort of pish has been going on for decades. Folk can either chuck it, or they can use the injustice and anger in a positive way and get a siege mentality going. Heard that the latter option has worked quite well for us in the past  ;)

I went through the siege mentality with the Aberdeen side in the 80's. It worked well then and it can work again. All this shit from pundits and the Scottish Media regarding our ticket allocation can work to our advantage. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 19, 2018, 09:07:17 AM
I do agree with you.  But what I'm saying is that this isn't a new thing, Hampden hasn't all of a sudden become a crap stadium, it has been for 20+ years.  Why has it all of a sudden become an issue and an excuse/reason not to go to a semi final?  We all know that if it was a final all the tickets would have gone by now.

Aye, I see what you're saying. Finals are bigger events than semi finals? We've been dicked about with kick off times so often that it's taking it's toll? Rocket's points about us not being likely to win are definitely a really big factor. I think we could compare to the hibs game a couple of seasons back, although it was on a Saturday. The Sunday 16:30 kick off is a real barrier too (we should have insisted on the 13:30 kick off). With the kids back to school the following day, is anybody going to take them along with a post 22:00 return to Aberdeen?

Remember, we've sold 10K ish. That's about the level of our support who'll go to any game regardless of the difficulties in getting there/back and who we're playing. That's the saturation point of our go-at-all-cost fans. That's about the level of our season ticket holders (who won't all be going of course). Once you're beyond that point then you're into the fans who need to be sold to, the ones who need a reason to go. At that point your looking at (in no particular order):

1. Location/easy of access
2. Kick off time/day of game
3. Are we going to win/current form?
4. Seat allocation process
5. Available seats
6. Importance of fixture
7. Recent appearances at Hampden/familiarity of the experience

All these things have been lessened to the extent that we're left with a nominal number of our hard-core support. In order to prise those other folk from in front of the telly, it's no longer acceptable to just treat them like shite and say "turn up, you're a dons fan, it's your duty". We needed to do absolutely everything to make it a good experience, because all the other factors work against us. If I, as donstalk's biggest and most important super fan, with my trips to Burnley and my 1,683 amassed superfan points am saying that I wouldn't have dragged my arse down to Hampden if I couldn't have got a proper seat, then how can I/we expect those folks that don't go to every game to do it? 
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 19, 2018, 09:08:09 AM
As has been established, this sort of pish has been going on for decades. Folk can either chuck it, or they can use the injustice and anger in a positive way and get a siege mentality going. Heard that the latter option has worked quite well for us in the past  ;)

That has to come from the club though, surely?
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Ramperbamper on October 19, 2018, 10:12:11 AM
That has to come from the club though, surely?

Talking about the fans going to Hampden (or not). Too young to remember, but I'm sure the fans back in the 80's when we were getting dicked didn't constantly threaten to finish with Scottish football completely. Air of defiance back then rather than greeting about a bad view or the kids having school on the Monday.

The management and team need to foster this too though, I agree.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: CvB on October 19, 2018, 10:23:17 AM
Talking about the fans going to Hampden (or not). Too young to remember, but I'm sure the fans back in the 80's when we were getting dicked didn't constantly threaten to finish with Scottish football completely. Air of defiance back then rather than greeting about a bad view or the kids having school on the Monday.

The management and team need to foster this too though, I agree.

They just didn't have a platform to air their views, so folk just stopped going. Quietly and gradually, people just walked away and found other things to do with their time.

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 19, 2018, 11:19:42 AM
I don't remember there ever being a feeling of being "dicked about" over kick off times, venues and tickets in the 70's, 80's or 90's. It didn't exist. There were never these issues. Can't say I recall anything like this in the 00's either. I know it's not been too relevant this decade - unfortunately as we can count the trips to Hampden on one hand - but I'm still not any the wiser as to what the complaint is. I didn't even know there were shite view seats at Hampden, unlike where we get put at Parkhead.

The siege mentality referred to was SAF using the west coast media and the west coast centrism in Scottish Football as a motivator for an outsider to break down the door. It was nothing to do with victimhood and injustice about seats and kick off times etc.

Some fans may be invoking weak reasons for not attending, perhaps through a sense of guilt that they don't want to go. Others, like me, are quite comfortable in not wanting to go and even if I was working in Glasgow that weekend, still wouldn't bother my arse. Different folks, different strokes and different priorities at different stages of life. I'm looking more forward to watching Celtic Hibs on the telly in a pub with a couple of green mates this weekend than I am the semi final next weekend.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: A96red on October 19, 2018, 12:40:38 PM
As has been established, this sort of pish has been going on for decades. Folk can either chuck it, or they can use the injustice and anger in a positive way and get a siege mentality going. Heard that the latter option has worked quite well for us in the past  ;)

I think there has been a bit of a siege mentality developed within the club over the last couple of years or so.
Unfortunately , it's been developed by McInnes and his players against some....(and I stress , some) of the fans.

I've had the feeling a few times that he's become fairly hacked off with the negativity from some fans.

Seems to me that there's now very much a "them-and-us" attitude between the disgrunteld fans and the club....mostly fostered by the disgruntled fans, in my opinion. And this has spread into the rapport between the team and the fans.

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: A96red on October 19, 2018, 12:52:24 PM
I don't remember there ever being a feeling of being "dicked about" over kick off times, venues and tickets in the 70's, 80's or 90's. It didn't exist. There were never these issues. Can't say I recall anything like this in the 00's either. I know it's not been too relevant this decade - unfortunately as we can count the trips to Hampden on one hand - but I'm still not any the wiser as to what the complaint is. I didn't even know there were shite view seats at Hampden, unlike where we get put at Parkhead.

The siege mentality referred to was SAF using the west coast media and the west coast centrism in Scottish Football as a motivator for an outsider to break down the door. It was nothing to do with victimhood and injustice about seats and kick off times etc.

Some fans may be invoking weak reasons for not attending, perhaps through a sense of guilt that they don't want to go. Others, like me, are quite comfortable in not wanting to go and even if I was working in Glasgow that weekend, still wouldn't bother my arse. Different folks, different strokes and different priorities at different stages of life. I'm looking more forward to watching Celtic Hibs on the telly in a pub with a couple of green mates this weekend than I am the semi final next weekend.

For the most part I'd agree with that bit , but I can remember one major episode that , to me , was far worse than any of the recent events

In the 1982 Scottish Cup we were drawn against St Mirren in the semis, and very shortly after the draw Muirton Park , Perth was announced as the venue.  Perfectly logical seeing as Perth is pretty much half-way between Paisley and Aberdeen. If anything it was probably easier and quicker to get to Perth from Paisley than Aberdeen

Lo and behold St Mirren complain about the venue , bleating that it was unfair on their fans having to travel so far for what was a rare event for them , being in the semis.

So the SFA changed the venue to Parkhead. 10 miles fae Paisley , about 150 miles fae Aberdeen.

I've never felt it's just an Old Firm bias we've been up against....it's always been the central belt establishment.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Barcosente on October 19, 2018, 01:03:04 PM


I've had the feeling a few times that he's become fairly hacked off with the negativity from some fans.

Seems to me that there's now very much a "them-and-us" attitude between the disgrunteld fans and the club....mostly fostered by the disgruntled fans, in my opinion. And this has spread into the rapport between the team and the fans.
To be fair, if this the case, then McIness has only himself to blame, given the negative outlook and match tactics he foists on the team and to the supporters.

If fans are being negative, it's the unpleasant football diet they are being fed that's to blame.
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: Lencarl on October 19, 2018, 01:08:37 PM
I have know idea if we can get the siege mentality back to this club again. It starts with the club themselves growing a pair against the West Coast bias. Does this current club have this in them. I don't know. They made a start in the ticket allocation fiasco but we needed to see them fight harder for the North Stand at Hampden. Agree a lot of our fans can take it or leave it going to games now but that is down to Live TV coverage.

We need to take a stand even though the West Coast Media will slam the club and their fans everytime they can but nothing new in that. Here is the latest :   SunSport understands the SPFL have been far from impressed and will take it into account with allocations if Aberdeen reach the Betfred Cup Final and future semi-finals and finals.
Across the Hampden corridor the SFA will also have noted it regards the Scottish Cup.

Stand Free. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: RicoS321 on October 19, 2018, 01:52:20 PM
Talking about the fans going to Hampden (or not). Too young to remember, but I'm sure the fans back in the 80's when we were getting dicked didn't constantly threaten to finish with Scottish football completely. Air of defiance back then rather than greeting about a bad view or the kids having school on the Monday.

The management and team need to foster this too though, I agree.

You're missing the point. Nobody is greeting about it. They're just simply saying that they're not going. That is our current position as a club. We've got 10-12K or so supporters who will go because that's what they always do, whether at Pittodrie or away.

The things I listed aren't people's complaints or excuses, they are just little things that add up to ensure people aren't attracted to the fixture. We're (on this thread) making the mistake of assuming that all people that class themselves as dons fans want to go to the game as a default but are being persuaded not to by various factors. That's not what's happening. Those who go as a default (me!) are all going. Those that can take it or leave it simply aren't going - no excuses required. The point being that if we want more people going, we actually have to attract them to it not just assume that it's their duty as AFC supporters to attend because we get tickets. All of the above reasons I gave (I missed the major factor of cost too, which is exhorbitant at £30 - plus seven fucking quid for recorded delivery) make the fixture more and more unattractive. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that it's a pretty unattractive fixture all in. My "blood red line" for non-attendance would simply have been having a shite seat. I'm there to watch the game, won't be getting pished as I have work the next day, so it's a no brainer that I wouldn't attend had I got a better view at home. No greeting, no excuses, just simply saying "I'm not buying the shite you're selling".
Title: Re: League Cup Semi Finals
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 19, 2018, 01:53:10 PM
I think there has been a bit of a siege mentality developed within the club over the last couple of years or so.
Unfortunately , it's been developed by McInnes and his players against some....(and I stress , some) of the fans.

I've had the feeling a few times that he's become fairly hacked off with the negativity from some fans.

Seems to me that there's now very much a "them-and-us" attitude between the disgrunteld fans and the club....mostly fostered by the disgruntled fans, in my opinion. And this has spread into the rapport between the team and the fans.

This is nothing new. Miller and Calderwood were very open in their criticism of the fans. Unrealistic expectations was their excuse to mask the hideous performances on the pitch. Willie Miller admitted this in an AGM last decade and sought to vindicate himself by saying that "you can check with the journalists up the back, we've not said that for a while" as he wisely learnt from that particular mistake.

What is also not unique is moaning and it offends me when Aberdeen fans are held up as some sort of exception in this regard. The Scots are arguably towards the top of the world negativity league table but within Scotland, Aberdeen and the North East are definitely no worse than other parts of the country I could mention.

The need to moan is more often to be found in the downtrodden, the thick and the unfortunate. As I was driving an hour or so ago, there was a debate about smoking and I was alarmed at how vociferous the anti-smoking feelings still are. I'm not talking about the laws which were rightfully introduced to discourage people from smoking but the vile intolerance that the majority of the panel/audience towards those who smoke outside a hospital.

If McInnes is offended by the "disgruntlement" levels within his customer base, he either doesn't understand human nature (which includes a hell of a lot of negative cunts) or he's kidding himself about the job he's doing... and who can blame him from having a very high regard of his own abilities given how much Milne paid him last year?

To be fair, if this the case, then McIness has only himself to blame, given the negative outlook and match tactics he foists on the team and to the supporters.

If fans are being negative, it's the unpleasant football diet they are being fed that's to blame.

Nail. Head. Smashed.