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Title: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on July 22, 2019, 01:12:50 PM
Presuming we get through against the Georgians...

Rijeka (again) v Aberdeen

Sevco once again get a far easier tie....Midjetylland v newco
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on July 22, 2019, 01:26:28 PM
I think that it is bad luck for this to have its own thread. Especially as we don't have a round two thread yet.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: SeeBass on July 22, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
DON'T THINK WE'LL BE WINNING 3-0 AWAY FROM HOME AGAIN!!!  I honestly hate playing the same sides even in our own league nevermind abroad. 
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Panda on July 22, 2019, 03:51:56 PM
Presuming we get through against the Georgians...

Rijeka (again) v Aberdeen

Sevco once again get a far easier tie....Midjetylland v newco

Are Rijeka better than midtjylland? Doesn't look much between the two teams on paper, and if anything, the Danes have already started their season while this (I think) will be Rijeka's first competitive games.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on July 22, 2019, 06:22:41 PM
From what I can see Rijeka have played two legit (ish) games, lost their super cup and won their first league game. Second league game this Saturday.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on July 22, 2019, 06:24:04 PM
Are Rijeka better than midtjylland? Doesn't look much between the two teams on paper, and if anything, the Danes have already started their season while this (I think) will be Rijeka's first competitive games.

Probably not, but the huns have a better team than us and should overcome the Danes, so it'd have been nice for them to have had a much harder draw. I'm assuming that both they and us would be unseeded for the playoff game now though (I don't think we'll get through for what it's worth)?
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 02, 2019, 03:02:31 PM
So what do we know about Rijeka? Played two league games so far, winning both. Looked up their squad and I haven’t heard of anyone but that says as much about me as anything. I think they underestimated us last time and the shock 3-0 killed the tie, don’t expect that this time around.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: BigAl on August 02, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
Not wishing to tempt fate by starting a topic entitled 4th qualifying round BUT here is what we would be up against as the grouping have been confirmed:

GROUP 2
Seeded
1: Sparta Praha (CZE) / Trabzonspor (TUR)
2: Feyenoord (NED) / Dinamo Tbilisi (GEO)
3: AEK Larnaca (CYP) / Gent (BEL)
4: Luzern (SUI) / Espanyol (ESP)
Unseeded
5: Universitatea Craiova (ROU) / AEK Athens (GRE)
6: Rijeka (CRO) / Aberdeen (SCO)
7: CSKA Sofia (BUL) / Zorya Luhansk (UKR)
8: Norrköping (SWE) / Hapoel Beer-Sheva (ISR)
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: A llad insane on August 02, 2019, 08:02:39 PM
Big ask to get past Rijeka  again, here's hoping.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 03, 2019, 03:28:58 PM
Big ask to get past Rijeka  again, here's hoping.

Definitely a step up from the last 2 teams we've played there, however, any positive result away from home, a score draw even, and I think it'll be enough.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: tom_widdows on August 03, 2019, 04:36:54 PM
They've moved to a temporary home while their stadium is being rebuilt

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Rujevica_stadium%2C_Rijeka%2C_Croatia.jpg)

Smaller capacity and not quite as picturesque as their old ground

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Stadion_Kantrida.jpg/1920px-Stadion_Kantrida.jpg)
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: manc_don on August 03, 2019, 09:46:38 PM
The away stand looks like they went all out ensuring supporter comfort  :rofl: caged in all sides.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 03, 2019, 10:04:42 PM
Rijeka won 3-1 today, 3rd league in out of 3 but although early doors they’ve played the bottom 3 who have yet to gain a point. I think tomorrow will give us a real opinion on whether we are a legit team.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Tyrant on August 05, 2019, 09:02:45 AM
Anyone else booked up for this trip? I never went the last time but will be visiting another country that I've never been to before thanks to The Dons.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: BigAl on August 05, 2019, 09:21:21 AM
Anyone else booked up for this trip? I never went the last time but will be visiting another country that I've never been to before thanks to The Dons.  :thumbsup:

Afraid not mate but wish I was.
Going on holiday in four weeks time, so time away from work at a premium right now.
Have a great trip Tyrant  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: manc_don on August 05, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
Anyone else booked up for this trip? I never went the last time but will be visiting another country that I've never been to before thanks to The Dons.  :thumbsup:

Look forward to the photo updates from the cage on the fezbook page then  ;)
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Tyrant on August 05, 2019, 09:42:59 AM
I will provide said pictures if I'm the one carrying the DT torch! Anyone know what our allocation will be? I know the club have asked interested parties to email them for tickets but haven't heard any other info at this point.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 05, 2019, 01:05:46 PM
And it's Larnaca or Gent if we take care of Rijeka. Best we could have hoped for I think
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: SeeBass on August 05, 2019, 05:55:53 PM
Am I going mad or did we know who our potential opponents might be in Play-Off Round before losing to Real Sociedad, Kairat Almaty, NK Maribor and Apollon Limassol because one can't remember there ever being a time when we dreamed about possibility of beating those mentioned above and thinking right just X or Y to beat and we've made the Europa League Group Stages!!!!
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 05, 2019, 06:12:15 PM
Am I going mad or did we know who our potential opponents might be in Play-Off Round before losing to Real Sociedad, Kairat Almaty, NK Maribor and Apollon Limassol because one can't remember there ever being a time when we dreamed about possibility of beating those mentioned above and thinking right just X or Y to beat and we've made the Europa League Group Stages!!!!

We definitely did for Limassol, because they were a pish team. We knew that all we had to do was buy a striker that wasn't Stockley or some other pish then we'd have made the group stages - thus making the transfer fee back. Instead of going for Moult for a few hundred thousand more, though, we waited until after we were papped out and decided on £400K bargain Stevie May.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: SeeBass on August 05, 2019, 07:33:53 PM
Ricco,
         You've not actually answered my question!!!!!
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 05, 2019, 11:25:20 PM
Ricco,
         You've not actually answered my question!!!!!

Yes I did, I just threw in a bit of extra information too!

The answer is yes, we knew who our opposition would have been had we beaten Limassol.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: DantheDon on August 06, 2019, 09:55:20 AM
I remember that it would have been Bourdoux if we had beaten Kairat Almaty. Not an easy draw but we would have been in with a chance.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Jute on August 06, 2019, 02:11:51 PM
Thursdays game confirmed as being on Premier Sports.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: manc_don on August 08, 2019, 07:31:39 AM
So folk feeling confident on this one? No way will we repeat the feat of the last time we played, but hopefully the team have plenty of confidence. Would probably take a 2-1 loss
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: DantheDon on August 08, 2019, 08:34:59 AM
Will probably be a difficult game. I expect us to set up quite defensively tonight. I think its important we get the away goal so Id take a score draw.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 08, 2019, 08:35:10 AM
Think the McKenna business will have a huge effect. Very distracting indeed. I'm guessing that no further action will take place before the game and he'll be on the pitch tonight, which is essential if we're to take anything.

I expect a really tight performance at the back from the dons. Would I be right in saying that Bryson didn't travel? I heard that from someone at work, but not sure if it was a confirmed rumour. If Bryson not there, I expect Ferguson to sit quite deep. Other than, I've nae idea about how good a team they are, or aren't.

3-0 the dons, Considine etc.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 08, 2019, 10:16:31 AM
Yeah supposedly Bryson was left at home. Becoming a bit concerning tbh.

Still think there will be developments today regarding McKenna and I don't think it's a given he will play.

Rijeka are a big step up in class from what we have faced so far and right now I'd bite your hand off for a score draw but a one goal defeat, preferably 2-1 or even better 3-2 would be a good result to bring back.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Elgindon on August 08, 2019, 06:06:48 PM

 Team news  -   

                    Lewis

Logan McKenna Considine Leigh

           Ferguson Ojo

  Hedges Gallacher McGinn

                Cosgrove

 Subs - Cerny,Devlin,Wilson,Main,Wright,Campbell,Vyner


   Looking forward to it. COYR
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Elgindon on August 08, 2019, 07:10:52 PM

 Stream - http://www.hesgoal.com/news/50958/Rijeka_vs_Aberdeen.html
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 08, 2019, 07:35:18 PM
mcginn off and campbell on
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Elgindon on August 08, 2019, 07:51:24 PM

 Were so timid were giving them confidence. Step it up in the second half Dons...
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 08, 2019, 07:54:47 PM
thats as well the skitters are back
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 08, 2019, 08:19:35 PM
logan has sold it
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 08, 2019, 08:27:51 PM
ferguson logan mcginn have been shite
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 08, 2019, 08:31:17 PM
bottles gone manager making no changes
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 08, 2019, 08:46:07 PM
tie over due to a tactically clueless manager on
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: bearsdenred on August 08, 2019, 08:46:10 PM
tie over...
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 08, 2019, 08:49:43 PM
he hasnt a fucking clue in europe
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Elgindon on August 08, 2019, 08:50:18 PM
Got what we deserved,a limp effort.Were better than that    :-\
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: DantheDon on August 08, 2019, 08:56:00 PM
Its the exact same as we were against Sachere. And you seen the difference when we opened up and attacked them. I don't know why McInnes keeps persisting with a system that's not working.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: SeeBass on August 08, 2019, 09:06:06 PM
Just said to a friend Derek can actually make you feel so flat as a person when you've seen such a negative way to go about stuff does end up with said result like tonight.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Jute on August 08, 2019, 09:25:50 PM
They were a step up in class from what we have played previously but we gave them far to much respect and have paid the price. Both goals were self inflicted. Cannot see us not conceding at home so probably needing 4 to go through. Not enough quality to do that sadly.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 08, 2019, 09:29:32 PM
Very poor, got what we deserved. Shit tactics from the past come back to haunt us.  Didn’t expect a balls out attacking performance but when, from what we have seen so far this year, our strength is in attack, why not attack more. As mentioned, Rejika are a step up from what we’ve seen but they weren’t that good. Don’t really remember any decent shot in goal. Can see us winning the second leg though, but 2-1, 3-2 or the likes.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 08, 2019, 09:30:24 PM
thought big andy was very good, am wondering if mckenna situation has fucked it
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 08, 2019, 09:33:30 PM
Totally flat performance from us tonight but we were comfortable nevertheless until Logan had yet another of his utter brainfarts. It's clear the boy loves playing for us but passion isn't enough. Intelligence is required at times and sadly Logan belongs in the remedial class when it comes to that. Still if we had kept it to 1-0 we would have had a more than decent chance at home.

Really hoping the new loon is indeed Logan's long term replacement.

As has been said.....cannot see us not conceding in the home leg. Absolutely can envisage a heroic but ultimately fruitless 3-1 win. These Croats are no world beaters but they are a bit more streetwise than we are.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 08, 2019, 09:42:37 PM
and our manager is tactically remedial
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Jute on August 08, 2019, 10:20:53 PM
That’s Logan and Cosgrove both with two bookings. Does that mean they are suspended for 2nd leg?

ETA: 3 yellow cards for a suspension.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 09, 2019, 01:22:00 AM
I said last week, maybe 2 weeks ago, it's clear we're going to set up completely differently when at Home and when Away. I expected a defensive performance tonight, but not that defensive. I think you'll see a totally different mindset next week, even if we'd got a positive result tonight, we'd still have seen a totally different mindset next week. Problem is, we showed them far too much respect and started treating the Ball like a fucking grenade tonight, nobody wanted to take responsibility and that's a disappointment.

Niall McGinn was a let down, he shirked his offensive duties in my opinion, never once came for the ball, he got back and tried to help Leigh out, but offensively he was anonymous.

Considine was probably the best player for us, he coped well and won just about everything, Leigh himself looked sluggish I thought, and Logan was decent enough up until that fucking idiotic moment, he's experienced enough and shouldn't be doing that.

Ferguson was also anonymous, and guilty of gifting them the ball a few times, no coincidence that he became more prominent when Campbell came on, as he was pushed further forward, but up until then, he was fucking mince, Hedges non-existent and Ojo, although he tried to keep possession, was pretty disappointing as well. I forgot Gallagher was playing to be honest.

Cosgrove was far too isolated, he actually won a fair amount of headers etc... but no-one was close enough to him to benefit from it, you could see his frustration as the game wore on.

All of the above though, was down to our gameplan, correct line up yes, totally wrong gameplan. We offered absolutely zero threat going forward, other than 2 long strikes ( Cosgrove, Ferguson ) that were straight down their Keepers throat, we offered absolutely fuck all, and that's the most frustrating thing. When you get to this stage, against tougher opposition, an away goal is pretty much essential, we didn't even try. Very McInnes-like these last 2 seasons, that performance, devoid of anything coherent and meaningful. And whilst it's not over, it's a mountain to climb, I think they'll score next week and manage the game comfortably. Or we'll blow them out the park, lets hope it's the latter. Just feels awfully deja-vu.  :(

Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: manc_don on August 09, 2019, 02:32:19 AM
It's over i'm afraid Kenny. DM hasn't a clue how to play in Europe.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 09, 2019, 08:12:47 AM
they probably have a bit more depth given they can easily spend over million euros per season on transfers, make a lot from selling players also, that said they looked beatable
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 09, 2019, 11:29:53 AM
they probably have a bit more depth given they can easily spend over million euros per season on transfers, make a lot from selling players also, that said they looked beatable

They looked pretty average in my opinion, they were guilty of misplacing passes and gifting the ball away, so much so, up until their Penalty, their fans were getting pretty angry and being very vocal about it.

Logan being a complete fucking wank and letting the team down, gave them a massive lift and from then on, they looked pretty comfortable.

Manc, an early goal next week and you never know, we've shown in spells this season that when we play, we can be pretty threatening. But I do think Rijeka will score, hopefully we have our shooting boots on. 
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Elgindon on August 09, 2019, 12:37:27 PM
 It was a typical unnecessarily cautious game from Mcinnes,but if I must give some leeway its the fact that weve a 50% new squad.I'll save my anger til after next week,but if he hasnt noticed already that we seem to suit a more attacking style of play,then he's being negligent.
    Enough of the timidity,early goal next week,and hud g'an.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 09, 2019, 02:40:04 PM
It was a typical unnecessarily cautious game from Mcinnes,but if I must give some leeway its the fact that weve a 50% new squad.I'll save my anger til after next week,but if he hasnt noticed already that we seem to suit a more attacking style of play,then he's being negligent.
    Enough of the timidity,early goal next week,and hud g'an.

Unnecessarily cautious is an under statement. Most cautious I’ve ever seen us play, we didn’t wants to attack. Rijeka were decent but just like the last round we over estimate our opponent and try to hold out when it’s not necessary. Last round we struggle for a 1-1 draw then blast them at home, I suspect our overly cautious approach costs us our place in Europe. I believe if we’d defended higher up the field and encouraged Hedges mcginn and Gallagher to support Cosgrove we’d have got an away goal and possibly even a draw, or win! We will win at Pittodrie but not by enough. Very disappointed.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: manc_don on August 12, 2019, 10:28:40 PM
So how are ticket sales for this? Can't imagine Sundays result helped matters. Really need a strong performance from the outset. Its all in the mindset, if the manager wants it and plays to the teams strengths, then we've got a chance. I'm not confident in the slightest mind, 3 unanswered goals is a tall order.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 12, 2019, 11:29:17 PM
I actually think we should treat is as just needing a 2-0 victory which doesn't seem nearly as daunting a prospect. If we get 2 up, by all means try for a 3rd but at all costs do not lose an away goal. If we can get them to extra time then I think that's a decent result and we can then go for the win. Apparently Rijeka suffered a 2-0 defeat on Sunday, but on top of the defeat they've lost 2 players to injury.....one of which was a dislocated shoulder so he's definitely out and the other supposedly very doubtful.

What we cannot afford is another dreary negative shitfest that we have witnessed in the past 2 games. We have to get the crowd really up for it so the first 15 minutes absolutely pile into them. They really aren't that good.....
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 13, 2019, 12:56:28 AM
I actually think we should treat is as just needing a 2-0 victory which doesn't seem nearly as daunting a prospect. If we get 2 up, by all means try for a 3rd but at all costs do not lose an away goal. If we can get them to extra time then I think that's a decent result and we can then go for the win. Apparently Rijeka suffered a 2-0 defeat on Sunday, but on top of the defeat they've lost 2 players to injury.....one of which was a dislocated shoulder so he's definitely out and the other supposedly very doubtful.

What we cannot afford is another dreary negative shitfest that we have witnessed in the past 2 games. We have to get the crowd really up for it so the first 15 minutes absolutely pile into them. They really aren't that good.....


Your last sentence is the main problem and point. They aren’t that good, but how many games have we played in the last 4-5 years where we’ve been ultra defensive and conservative when our opponent hasn’t been that good. Too many times we focus on the opponent rather than playing to and maximizing our strengths.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: rocket_scientist on August 13, 2019, 01:13:03 AM
Just an observation from the outside;

You keep on posting about the limitations of the manager, 100% correctly and yet you sing "one Derek McInnes" on the terraces? This paradox doesn't square with me. What the fuck is the position of the AFC support?
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 13, 2019, 04:16:13 AM
You meaning anyone specific or just people in general? For me the manager gets credit when it’s due but gets deserved criticism when he fails. I’d rather he wasn’t the manager but he is and I’m a reasonable man to acknowledge when he does something right, plus I want Aberdeen to always do well. It’s not personal, I don’t dislike the guy, I just don’t think he’s a good coach. That's where he’s limited and has shown that many times. Like many though, it’s a new season, optimism, and I’m running into a brick wall again and again hoping for a different result.

Besides a manager who wins the league, every cup, the Eurovision Song Contest, the general election, Wimbledon, defeats Clubber Lang, over powers Lincoln Hawk, out wits Garry Kasparov, sees off Joey Chestnut, and beds 12 Victoria Secret models on consecutive nights, what would make you happy?
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: TheDeeDon on August 13, 2019, 07:26:37 AM
At home games at least you don't hear 'One Derek McInnes' being sung much now and if it is it is very low key.

From what I see and hear I think most people are fed up of what is happening with the team over say the last 18 months.

I am also led to believe that Season Ticket sales have dropped a good deal this season and also the renewal of the DNS thing has plummeted also, make of that what you will.

I renewed my ST, but I admit to not looking forward to this season and not even bothering going on Thursday night.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: donsdaft on August 13, 2019, 09:53:12 AM
I'll be there on Thursday but didn't renew my (2) season tickets.

It's going to feel a bit flat after Europe, especially if we return to the type of football we saw on Sunday.

However, we've had 3 good home performances and we may well blast five past the Croatians on Thursday.

5-3 anyone?
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Tyrant on August 13, 2019, 11:23:52 AM
Embarrassing stuff. To play against such a shite team so cautiously was a disgrace. It flattened the fans and the game was a waste of everyone's time and money. We deserve to be papped out on Thursday. However I will love it if we turn it around as the wild celebrations from the Rijeka players and fans (including an OTT fireworks display) was also an embarrassment from them and will hopefully bite them on the arse.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Obanred on August 13, 2019, 01:29:29 PM
At home games at least you don't hear 'One Derek McInnes' being sung much now and if it is it is very low key.

From what I see and hear I think most people are fed up of what is happening with the team over say the last 18 months.

I am also led to believe that Season Ticket sales have dropped a good deal this season and also the renewal of the DNS thing has plummeted also, make of that what you will.

I renewed my ST, but I admit to not looking forward to this season and not even bothering going on Thursday night.

I was going to go Thursday night, leave work early, 200mile drive up, watch game, food, 200mile back hame, get in around 2am and get up for work 6am Friday. But after that absolute pish on Sunday, I think i will just stay at home and watch on RedTV.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 13, 2019, 08:57:11 PM
I was going to go Thursday night, leave work early, 200mile drive up, watch game, food, 200mile back hame, get in around 2am and get up for work 6am Friday. But after that absolute pish on Sunday, I think i will just stay at home and watch on RedTV.

Hun. I'll be there, as I am without doubt the biggest fan on the board. I could actually get Stevie May with my loyalty points and still have enough to get Steven Gleeson in to the game on Thursday, which is the only way you'll see him at Pittodrie again.

Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: SeeBass on August 13, 2019, 10:15:23 PM
If it had been anybody other than HNK Rijeka regardless of the first leg score I'd have been there for my 20th European evening at Pittodrie.  I've not yet had said refund confirmed by LNER in having to make a split decision where making Chikhura Sachkhere match inside a taxi from Berwick-upon-Tweed was concerned.  You see didn't want adding towards the stress I felt on morning of match when finding train got cancelled.  £350 is a lot of money regarding this disabled guy.  Already paid £184 beforehand on match brief, travel ticket, accommodation, hence each goal that night cost roughly £106.80!!!!!

I have 1-1 on coupon.  James Wilson Anytime Scorer.       
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 13, 2019, 10:44:14 PM
if we do get through, highly unlikely, and we get gent forget it
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 13, 2019, 11:26:42 PM
if we do get through, highly unlikely, and we get gent forget it

Don't be confusing Gent with Genk (Genk were formed by the amalgamation of one of our old Euro adversaries Waterschei with Winterslag around 30 years ago)..................Gent are nowhere near the level of Genk and although I agree that our chances of progression are unlikely, should we manage to pull it off then it's an eminently winnable tie. Although another performance like Sunday's would result in a horsing
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 14, 2019, 08:01:17 AM
er am not spending several million euros on players last couple of seasons put spurs out recently.. bit condescending that reply they are ranked 41 by uefa.. there is probably a reason for that
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 14, 2019, 12:53:21 PM
cosgrove out .. chances dwindling
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 14, 2019, 01:03:30 PM
cosgrove out .. chances dwindling

Fuck sake. Be as well starting Considine up front over Wilson or Main.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 14, 2019, 01:32:00 PM
stevie may
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Tyrant on August 14, 2019, 01:34:26 PM
stevie may

Never heard of him.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 14, 2019, 01:34:33 PM
stevie may

Stevie May 2

The Redemption
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 14, 2019, 01:49:14 PM
Had Cosgrove been fit, starting May alongside might not have been a bad option at all. We were at our best last season with those 2 in partnership throughout December....we scored a fair few goals in that period
.
Wondering who will be on penalties with no Cosgrove? GMS was back up option for penalties (and actually May was on them and hadn't missed, but got dropped when Stewart got brought back and Cosgrove inherited the job). McGinn probably?
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 14, 2019, 03:42:45 PM
Where is it confirmed Sam is out?

If he is, please

Lewis

Logan-Considine-McKenna-Leigh

Hedges-Ojo-Ferguson-mcginn

Main-Wilson
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Jute on August 14, 2019, 06:30:28 PM
Where is it confirmed Sam is out?

If he is, please

Lewis

Logan-Considine-McKenna-Leigh

Hedges-Ojo-Ferguson-mcginn

Main-Wilson

Confirmation of Cosgrove being out here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49324014

We should not be going with Main as his “style” of football will see him booked or sent off in Europe. See Stockley for evidence of that. He is also dug shite.

Would rather we went with Anderson or May along side Wilson. Agree with the rest of the team.

Think we are fucked anyway as cannot see us getting 3 without them scoring.

In
Bus up and hopefully a couple of pints
Y
Bus back to capital
2-1 McGinn and Wilson.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 14, 2019, 06:43:38 PM
anderson isnt good enough nor has physique am afraid , play wilson through middle and get the ball on the deck
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 14, 2019, 06:56:52 PM
Imagine this was one of those McInnes moments, where someone is unlikely to play, but they then go on to make it, and we still lose  ::) I wouldn't put it passed him by the way.

We can't go with Main again, not on his own, we most definitely can't go with Stevie May, I am still at a loss as to why this fraud is still at our club, so really only leaves Anderson & Wilson, if we are persisting with the 1 Striker, if not, would probably like to see Main & Wilson partnering each other. We will need some sort of brutish player up front, with a more technically astute player beside him, be that Anderson or Wilson, who knows.

If Cosgrove is absolutely out though, and this is not some sort of tactical media mind games, then I fear another goalless Aberdeen, for the 3rd consecutive game.

Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: A llad insane on August 14, 2019, 07:37:08 PM
Surely has to start with 2 strikers tomorrow, probably Main & Wilson. Picked up tkt tonight, apparently only sold 13k, pretty poor tbh !
Get intae them boot boot :hammer:
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Elgindon on August 14, 2019, 07:55:45 PM
 Think it would have been close to a sell out if we hadnt played like blouses recently  >:D,though rackon there will be nearer 16k by kick off

 High tempo and in their faces from the start and see what happens. COYR

 
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: manc_don on August 14, 2019, 09:11:44 PM
We usually average around 15k for euro ties don't we?  I'd hope a few more buy some on the day.

The team need all the help they can get. Lord knows the manager won't
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 14, 2019, 09:45:46 PM
Aye usually about 15k for early round ties (Burnley being the obvious notable exception). I think we'll get slightly north of 17k tomorrow, just hope the team gives a performance worthy of such a crowd.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Tyrant on August 15, 2019, 10:35:55 AM
Surely has to start with 2 strikers tomorrow, probably Main & Wilson. Picked up tkt tonight, apparently only sold 13k, pretty poor tbh !
Get intae them boot boot :hammer:

At least mostr of those 13k didn't spend hundreds of pounds to watch us play like fucking pussies in Croatia.  ::) I'm surprised there are even this many mugs going along tonight.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 15, 2019, 11:12:50 AM
At least mostr of those 13k didn't spend hundreds of pounds to watch us play like fucking pussies in Croatia.  ::) I'm surprised there are even this many mugs going along tonight.

I hope we win 4-1 just to spite those mugs who spent hundreds of pounds to watch us play like fucking pussies in Croatia.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Tyrant on August 15, 2019, 12:30:35 PM
I hope we win 4-1 just to spite those mugs who spent hundreds of pounds to watch us play like fucking pussies in Croatia.


I hope so too because I'm one of said 13k mugs going along tonight.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 15, 2019, 02:40:49 PM
Can I ask a completely irrelevant and hypothetical question?

See the likes of Igor Biscan, Dan Petrescu etc.... If we ever did punt McInnes, or he left on his own accord, could we attract those aforementioned managers? Would we be a bigger pull than the likes of Rijeka, in the Croatian League, or Cluj in the Romanian League?

Forgetting about Family etc... if they were approached and had zero personal drawbacks, would they leave their respective clubs for us?

More in terms of Competition, progression to a club down South if they do well, budgets etc....

I appreciate it's not relevant to the match, I was just having a conversation with a fellow supporter and we had very mixed opinions on it.

Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Slim on August 15, 2019, 02:52:17 PM
Probably if they were out of work. I would have thought it unlikely that we could poach them.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 15, 2019, 02:52:46 PM
Can I ask a completely irrelevant and hypothetical question?

See the likes of Igor Biscan, Dan Petrescu etc.... If we ever did punt McInnes, or he left on his own accord, could we attract those aforementioned managers? Would we be a bigger pull than the likes of Rijeka, in the Croatian League, or Cluj in the Romanian League?

Forgetting about Family etc... if they were approached and had zero personal drawbacks, would they leave their respective clubs for us?

More in terms of Competition, progression to a club down South if they do well, budgets etc....

I appreciate it's not relevant to the match, I was just having a conversation with a fellow supporter and we had very mixed opinions on it.

I’d say no. We’re a diddy league. Rangers and Celtic have pull because of facilities and crowds, plus pay, and so called history. We’re just a small club who to them overachieved 30 plus years ago. Other clubs like us in Europe have folded.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 15, 2019, 03:35:57 PM
I'd say yes. There was an article I saw yesterday that says that Celtic have a bigger turnover that all 14 clubs in the Romanian top league added together.

If that's the case, they must be paying their managers relative peanuts. (of course the cost of living over there is so much cheaper than it here.....hence why you hear about all these Roma gypsies coming over here to work for national minimum wage and sending the majority of their cash home where they build palatial residences and return home after about 10 years to a life of Romanian luxury). So I'm certain we could attract Petrescu over likely for half of what we pay Mcinnes. And as you say...they'd treat us as a stepping stone to the real riches of getting a gig in England/Spain/Italy/Germany so they would definitely be motivated to well. Would also open a possible new talent market for us.

However...... with the ink on Mcinnes' new contract barely dry it is something that won't be happening any time soon
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: donsdaft on August 15, 2019, 04:37:41 PM
Obviously if I'm a manager in Croatia, I'm going to sit , sipping my wine, looking over the Adriatic and think......"I wish I was having a pint in Torry just now"
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: TheDeeDon on August 15, 2019, 06:33:31 PM
Obviously if I'm a manager in Croatia, I'm going to sit , sipping my wine, looking over the Adriatic and think......"I wish I was having a pint in Torry just now"

Fucking right you would DD.  ;)
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 15, 2019, 06:37:34 PM
Cosgrove starts!
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Slim on August 15, 2019, 06:41:05 PM
Hopefully he has actually recovered and doesn’t end up out of action for months because McInnes doesn’t trust the 2 strikers he gave big contracts to 2 months ago.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 15, 2019, 06:52:37 PM
Hopefully he has actually recovered and doesn’t end up out of action for months because McInnes doesn’t trust the 2 strikers he gave big contracts to 2 months ago.

He was always going to play. I had a gut feeling it was of those classic McInnes mind games  ::)

He used to do it with Hayes, then Mackay Steven, now it's poor Cosgrove's turn, hopefully the big fella takes it in his stride and doesn't feel too much expectation.

Happy he's starting, obviously, but personally find McInnes a bit cringe-worthy with this shite, especially if it back fires.

Anyway, hopefully he has his shooting boots on this evening, and we'll need an assured Considine and McKenna partnership.

2-1 Aberdeen FT ( Cosgrove, Hedges )



Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: TheDeeDon on August 15, 2019, 07:07:52 PM
I have a feeling we will win tonight and go through.

I'm going for a 3-0 win for us tonight.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 07:43:37 PM
streamage ?
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: bearsdenred on August 15, 2019, 07:45:02 PM
streamage ?

http://www.hesgoal.com/news/51391/Aberdeen_vs_Rijeka.html


http://vipboxing.top/soccer/watch-37839c-aberdeen-rijeka?l=1366149225 seems more stable same link
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: bearsdenred on August 15, 2019, 07:58:15 PM
game over 10mins in

ffs

Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 07:58:27 PM
game over get mcinnes to fuck
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: manc_don on August 15, 2019, 08:02:51 PM
Pathetic goal to give away. Team have completely bottled it.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 15, 2019, 08:03:28 PM
We lack a #10, no creativity centrally in midfield so we go long......again.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 08:03:49 PM
no the manager has
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 08:07:46 PM
so the  usual story loss of discipline shape and bottle all stems from manager , i believe ojo is belgian for pepper
l
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 15, 2019, 08:09:14 PM
All long ball now. Gtf.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 08:09:44 PM
its long ball most of the time
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 15, 2019, 08:11:13 PM
Big Sam won’t last. We’re fucked if we weren’t already.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 08:11:52 PM
complete lack of discipline manager has no respect from players
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 15, 2019, 08:15:46 PM
Crowd might well lynch the ref if he keeps this shitshow up. Fucking ridiculous challenge by Ojo for the sending of though. Naïve isn't the word
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 08:17:44 PM
 2-0  lets make it 5 and get this moron out  of the  club
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 15, 2019, 08:28:12 PM
Well, manager, what you going to do at half time? I’d go 3 at the back, surprised we didn’t pull Logan or Leigh for Campbell. Seriously lacking creativity now without McGinn.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 08:37:06 PM
what creativity haven’t had a shot on target ?
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 15, 2019, 08:38:37 PM
I'd be taking Cosgrove off to prevent him damaging his injury any more. Cos if he ends up out for a few weeks then Christ knows who is going to score for us.
 
Board must be bitterly regretting giving Mcinnes that contract extension now. Can't afford to sack the fucker
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 08:39:30 PM
and thats the issue he is in a comfort zone
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 15, 2019, 08:50:10 PM
Big Sam will be sent off sooner than later. Why is he still out there?

We're going through the motions, have given up.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 15, 2019, 09:00:55 PM
Big Sam will be sent off sooner than later. Why is he still out there?

We're going through the motions, have given up.

Rijeka are no great shakes but theyre easily good enough with us a man down. There's no point in any of our players risking injury, the tie has gone. Total sickener
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 09:06:51 PM
zero shots on goal ? punching
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: baggy89 on August 15, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
Pray for Colak’s boot.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: manc_don on August 15, 2019, 09:35:10 PM
How many shots on target have we had over the two legs?  I stopped listening at about the 75th as my redtv cut out.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 09:36:28 PM
0.5
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Jute on August 15, 2019, 10:14:24 PM
Well that was shite. Fucking awful from first to last. Yes the ref was shite but by fuck did we make some stupid challenges. I had said to my mates as soon as Ojo was booked that he was going to be sent off. He was getting totally overrun in the middle of the park and was diving into challenges as a result. We should have hooked him as soon as we went 1-0 down. Cosgrove looked half fit. How bad must our other strikers be that McInnes would rather go with a half fit Cosgrove rather than play any of them. As someone has already said we have zero creation in midfield and as a result are very predictable. No doubt McInnes will claim getting a draw in second half as a victory.

Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: manc_don on August 15, 2019, 10:56:03 PM
DM clearly hasn't learnt a thing about how to play in Europe.  The fact we've never made it beyond the 3rd round qualifiers is terrible.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 15, 2019, 11:16:36 PM
DM clearly hasn't learnt a thing about how to play in Europe.  The fact we've never made it beyond the 3rd round qualifiers is terrible.

To be fair to McInnes, tonight was the largely the players' doing. Ojo was abysmal and panicky as fuck on the ball and Leigh was a disaster at that first goal; he was marking the fucking white line of the box and just opened his body to show the guy where to hit it. Individual errors killed it after 10 minutes, with 20 minutes ensuring no way back in. The bookings were ridiculously soft - both should have been a talking to (i.e. one card for the two). Just shows that foreign refs are definitely not the answer.

They were a decent side, but not amazing. They pressed very well tonight. We shouldn't have been giving away stupid goals in the away leg which set us up for the first goal fuck up here.

Most worrying part are Main and Wilson again, plus Ojo in midfield and Leigh at left back. Ojo made a couple of glaring mistakes that a central midfielder shouldn't be making in the first leg, and he was terrible tonight. Giving away the ball and generally just being poor on it. However, I'd say the biggest issue is that we've not replaced Shinnie as a player and definitely not as a captain. Zero leadership on the park, with Joe having a poor game (he had to come for that ball for their second, it was his all the way).

Wasn't actually expecting us to get through, but really didn't expect such a disaster.   
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 11:23:12 PM
players are panicky due to shit man management?
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 15, 2019, 11:26:03 PM
and i will say it again some players are not in peak condition
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 15, 2019, 11:36:04 PM
players are panicky due to shit man management?

Nah, I'd say due to ability. We rarely look panicky under McInnes. We're generally far too conservative to be panicky. Ojo just didn't like being pressed, and it was obvious from the first minute (there was a couple of hints of it in his debut, but I assumed it was just first game nerves/fitness).

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and i will say it again some players are not in peak condition

The guys that have been here since last season are fine, but Leigh definitely way off and Hedges and even Gallagher looks a bit jaded at times. I think that the lack of Thursday games will actually do them good over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: baggy89 on August 15, 2019, 11:46:03 PM
Think we had 2 shots on target, one each leg, both from distance.

Main for Cosgrove? We were creating nothing, so make a (relative) like for like susbstitution? Yes let's not risk getting utterly gubbed, but maybe try something that attacking wise might cause them problems. At the very least make them think "this is different".

Gallagher is a mercan shinnie, with zero ability and zero heart. His pace is great, his acceleration is awesome (as long as he doesn't think someone might beat him to the ball). Close control is as you'd expect from someone who is paid to play football. He has no decision making ability and fuck all football brain. Can read it OK from behind the play, but struggles if we are on the front foot.

Lewis didn't have the best game tonight. Should have been out quicker at the first goal, and should have cleared Logan out at the second. It said everything about the communication, within our defensive unit, when McKenna made that un-necessary clearance towards the end of the first half. That said both goals were well placed/lucky.

I'd have hooked McGinn too. At that point his pass completion rate was 0.

Don't understand why Wilson is here if not for games like tonight.

Considine had a good game.

We didn't desereve anything from the game but the ref was an abomination. No excuses we deserved to lose.
That said he was an abomination;
Reijka player ploughs through Cosgrove from behind, nothing given. This sets a precedence, ref saw it and indicated "play on".

Ojo's first challenge. It was a yellow, but usually after 10 minutes, given the challenge on Cosgrove, he expected a foul. Regardless, precedent set.

Ojo's second challenge, foul given the first being given as a yellow. To send a player off for those two challenges and taking those as precedent 3 Reijka players should have been off and probably two further Dons players.

Ferguson beats 4 players drives into the box gets tripped, play on.

Deliberate hand ball by Reijka, fk Aberdeen, no yellow card.

Ferguson smashed, play on.

Cosgrove doesn't try to win the ball smacked in the face (gently) free kick Reijka. Main smacks Reijka player who doesn't try to win the ball in the face (gently) yellow card Main.

McLennan deserved a better pre-season, hopefully it's just injury that has curtailed him so far. Has the huns pre-season helped them? OK they have a large unaffordable squad, and are quite clearly "speculating to accumulate" in an even more unaffordable (or at the very least excessively risky) business model. Can't help think their additional games, against (albeit dis-interested) decent Euro opposition has given tham a lift? Will it come back and bite them later in the season?

Too pissed to remember if there or what the point was other than;

tactics = shite
recruitment = likley shite
selection = shite
game plan = shiter
reaction to the game = shiteiest



Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 16, 2019, 12:12:56 AM
mcginn is still a stone overweight,  if salah and ronaldo are fantastic human specimens why are
our players not like that given their limited technique
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 16, 2019, 01:21:13 AM
I have wrote paragraphs, deleted them, came back on and wrote more, repeated that process for almost an hour now and just gave up.

Bottom line is, it was fucking shite, from start to finish.

Any early optimism I had is completely gone, I just wonder how we'd fair if we had a manager in place that used the players at our disposal to their strengths. We are so fucking predictable it's infuriating.

That whole Cosgrove thing, about him being out for this game, what was the fucking point in that? What was that ever going to achieve?

Totally scunnered already, I think we'll have a much worse season than last, and that was pretty fucking underwhelming as it was, was only masked by some positive results against the Hun bastards.


Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 16, 2019, 05:56:11 AM
What a disappointment, and how 8 days can change the feelings of so many. Was really excited about today and the bubble burst before we even really started. First goal defending was shocking, 3 guys could have pressured the through ball but didn’t. Felt for Ojo and he’s taking a lot of stick, unlucky to get two bookings. Was really disappointed to see how we pretty much gave up and just went through the motions in the second half, and that comes from the manager. Also disappointing to hear DM say post match that the game was over after the red card. Whilst it became a much harder job I’d have still had a go, he didn’t. I’d have put Campbell on for a defender and gone back 3. I’d also have yanked Cosgrove at half time and gone with Wilson, tried something different at that point as a big lump up top was failing. Main is gash, got little service again, but I just don’t rate him.

I’m not over reacting like many but from what I’ve seen after 8 games is that we are in dire need of a creative central midfielder. We need a Ryan Christie or James Maddison. When we play Gallagher Ojo Ferguson and Cosgrove we have such little flair. I don’t think Bryson is that type either. Id suggest McGinn in there instead of wide if we don’t sign anyone as he’s getting on and the pace isn’t quite there anymore. We’ve tried Wright in there but he’s failed to take his chances. Interesting to note he didn’t even make the bench today. We are so predictable that it’s either long ball to Cosgrove (who is shite, don’t care what some say) or give it wide to one of the two wingers and hope for the best. We need central flair to suck in the defense to give the wide guys and forward more space, and to have control of the ball in the final third and look threatening, we struggle with that.

I still think we are better than last year, but we need a good confidence booster and a few goals this Sunday.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Reidzer 1314 on August 16, 2019, 08:29:53 AM
For McInnes to roll out with the same set up and tactics that they nullified a week ago is mind boggling.

Playing mind games with Cosgrove fitness as though was Lionel Messi. I can just hear the conversation in the Rijeka dressing room when they got the team sheet:

"Oh no, Cosgrove is actually fit and starts! What ever will we do?!?"

"Wait a minute, lets just do the exact same thing we did last week when limited him to getting barely a sniff of the ball!"

This game was crying out for a different approach, something to mix our play up a bit rather than the same old and McInnes has flapped at it. This was easily our best chance to reach the group stages, the squad was signed well in time for the Qualifiers, the draw was quite favourable but McInnes has blown it.

When the system you are playing isnt working why on earth would you take Cosgrove off to replace him with Curtis Main, you would be as well seeing if Si the Seagull had his boots with him. In fact he would probably still be better than Main is he just wore his bloody bird feet!
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 16, 2019, 09:45:59 AM
we wouldnt have laid a finger on gent, but that doesnt excuse last night
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: RicoS321 on August 16, 2019, 05:12:19 PM
For McInnes to roll out with the same set up and tactics that they nullified a week ago is mind boggling.

Playing mind games with Cosgrove fitness as though was Lionel Messi. I can just hear the conversation in the Rijeka dressing room when they got the team sheet:

"Oh no, Cosgrove is actually fit and starts! What ever will we do?!?"

"Wait a minute, lets just do the exact same thing we did last week when limited him to getting barely a sniff of the ball!"

This game was crying out for a different approach, something to mix our play up a bit rather than the same old and McInnes has flapped at it. This was easily our best chance to reach the group stages, the squad was signed well in time for the Qualifiers, the draw was quite favourable but McInnes has blown it.

When the system you are playing isnt working why on earth would you take Cosgrove off to replace him with Curtis Main, you would be as well seeing if Si the Seagull had his boots with him. In fact he would probably still be better than Main is he just wore his bloody bird feet!

How can you have any idea whether we set up the same or not? Picking the same (or similar) team doesn't mean the same tactics clearly. We lost a goal within 10 minutes (because we had nearly all our team in their half on that particular attack) and then a player in 20 with the tie completely over in 30 minutes. From that point on, a manager has to be pragmatic, whether it offends every spectator's eyes or not (it did). We weren't scoring 5 goals with 10 men, but we could very easily have let in another 3. There's a certain Mark McGhee who would have done, and did, exactly that and we appeared to have a mentality that thrashings were okay under him as a result (losing 2-0 or 9-0 doesn't matter). It was horrendous stuff last night, but that was due to individual errors rather than a tactical thing, which meant that the game was over before it started. They did press significantly more than they did in the first leg though, which was a surprise.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: rocket_scientist on August 16, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
^ yeah that's right, we can't go blaming the manager for everything.

But there is another school of thought that says managers are in charge and that they should be judged by results.

And there is also a school of thought - held by those who know things - who can see the future.

In order to see this, knowledge of history, human beings and football helps.

McInnes is a fucking charlatan user cunt and anyone trying to defend him is a thick useless cunt in denial.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 17, 2019, 12:53:21 AM
Sorry Rico, don’t agree with you at all regarding your pragmatic comment. When we go down to 10 men we have a choice to make. Quit or try. We quit. At 2-0 I don’t accept we have lost with 70 minutes left. I’d respect a coach if we lost 5-0 and he said afterwards that at 2-0 we had nothing to lose so made subs and had a go. Or if we lost 3-1 or at least scored. Did we even have real scoring chances? The last 70 minutes were dire, as were the last 3 games in general, and that’s all down to the manager. He signs the players, picks the team, and dictates tactics. And motivates the players to perform.....or not.

We’ve been pish this last week after a promising start and that started with the overly defensive first leg performance. Yes blame Shay, but with that defensive a performance they were going to score, it was a matter of time just like games against Celtic. DM said after the game yesterday that at 2-0 the tie was over. He gave up. That told me an awful lot. From what I saw, manager and players stopped trying and I cannot accept that at all. A horrible thing to say, but if Lennon or Gerrard were manager we’d have done a lot more last night than DM did, they wouldn’t have quit.

There is pragmatic, and there is toothless/spineless. Too often have we seen the latter in big games hence the reaction by so many to this past week.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 17, 2019, 09:22:32 AM
I'm with Rico on this. 2-0 down with 10 men? Needing 5 to go through? Nah not happening. Could have resulted in a horsing. And going hell for leather at them could also have resulted in injuries.

I'm no McInnes fan ( I didn't want a new contract awarded) but he called it right once we went 2 down. Sadly it's all he got right since the Hearts game
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: donsdaft on August 17, 2019, 12:07:40 PM
If the team decide to stop playing then they can have no complaints when the fans decide to stop watching.

I very nearly left at half time (many did)

I didn't, only because I found it difficult to actually leave so early so I had a blether with my son and his mates at the back of the Y for 15 minutes and then we all left.

Disgraceful performance, the club should be refunding everyone who bought a ticket.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Obanred on August 17, 2019, 03:25:10 PM
Well, I am glad i didn't travel up.

Total & Utter shite.

Gave up watching on lappy at 2 - 0 and put on Chernobyl instead.


Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: LA-Don on August 17, 2019, 06:03:50 PM
Well, I am glad i didn't travel up.

Total & Utter shite.

Gave up watching on lappy at 2 - 0 and put on Chernobyl instead.


Haha. So you really didn’t change channel.
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: SeeBass on August 17, 2019, 09:50:04 PM
I heard from a club insider before away leg that they thought HNK Rijeka were slightly worse than in 2015.  Are we as a squad better or poorer from class of 15'??
Title: Re: Europa League 3rd round
Post by: Ten Caat on August 18, 2019, 09:41:34 AM
I heard from a club insider before away leg that they thought HNK Rijeka were slightly worse than in 2015.  Are we as a squad better or poorer from class of 15'??

Much poorer

That squad had McLean and Shinnie. Rooney banging in the goals (I accept Cosgrove is also doing so right now....if he does it for 2 or 3 seasons consistently then I'll rate him alongside Rooney). Reynolds was still a class act at centre half and Logan was excellent....Logan's decline in the past 2 seasons has been horrendous. And of course Hayes at that point was at the peak of his powers.