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Title: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on October 31, 2018, 07:46:45 PM
Left out of the squad yet again, for a 2nd or 3rd time in a row I think?

I thought he was maybe injured, but he's played in the last 2 or 3 reserve fixtures, so clearly not injured, I am reluctant to say that he's finished already, as we paid a decent fee by our standards, for him. But there is clearly something amiss with him. I'll revert back to a post I made a few weeks back, people at one of our reserve games that he featured in, along with Gleeson, said that he looked utterly disinterested.

Is it just a case of giving him more time to settle and adapt or is he just simply not good enough?, or is the manager putting a rocket up his arse?
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Ten Caat on October 31, 2018, 08:28:55 PM
Wrote him off by early September. C@nt isn't finished cos he never even started. Supposedly "hasn't settled" in Aberdeen. Presume he will be offski in January, writing off the £200k..
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on November 01, 2018, 08:56:47 AM
not sure he ever started whoever scouted him needs shot
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: JMcD_AFC_79 on November 01, 2018, 09:34:44 AM
You always hope a player will come good especially when his previous club once valued him at 1-2 million.. you do wonder though if we've been conned and swallowed a load of shite?

It's upto the player now to prove himself and work hard to get to where he once supposedly was. But questions must surely be asked of the scouting process here.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on November 01, 2018, 10:40:35 AM
You always hope a player will come good especially when his previous club once valued him at 1-2 million.. you do wonder though if we've been conned and swallowed a load of shite?

It's upto the player now to prove himself and work hard to get to where he once supposedly was. But questions must surely be asked of the scouting process here.

I am fairly certain that McInnes himself said they were aware of Forrester after we played a Pre Season friendly against St Pat's Athletic & that we had kept tabs on him.

Someone said he had the potential to be the new Michael Carrick! One of his former coaches or manager, can't mind who. 

My point is, he's being left out of squads entirely now, but playing reserve football, he's either being given the opportunity to get up to speed with Scottish Football, or he's being taught a lesson & being told to shape up or fuck off. Bizarre considering we paid a fee for him, the scouting should have been as thorough as possible, you'd imagine.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: manc_don on November 01, 2018, 06:02:12 PM
It's also very much unlike McInnes.  If he's paid a fee for someone, he'll usually, by hell or high water, find a place for them in the team.  I mean, look at May?

I find the whole things very bizarre and hopefully one of the options you mentioned KFP (being given time) is how it pans out. 

That said, as I said in the other thread, I wouldn't be bothered if we never saw him or Gleeson again.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Elgindon on November 01, 2018, 06:17:41 PM
 
 He looks an enigmatic sort.Heard comments he's 'looked amazing' in training,but cant seem to carry it over on matchday.Whether he doesnt suit our style of play,or cant handle the oppositions,or he's just a bit of a pansy,looks like he isnt going to cut it unless he finds his Mojo soon
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on November 01, 2018, 07:50:03 PM

 He looks an enigmatic sort.Heard comments he's 'looked amazing' in training,but cant seem to carry it over on matchday.Whether he doesnt suit our style of play,or cant handle the oppositions,or he's just a bit of a pansy,looks like he isnt going to cut it unless he finds his Mojo soon

Indeed, that came from Andrew Shinie on RedTV, he said that everyone said he was one of the best players in training, but as Rico ( I think it was him ) rightly said, training and games are completely different of course, I can't see there being the same level of intensity in terms of pressing and tackles etc...

Manc, I am still very hopeful that both players come good, sound like a broken record, but Gleeson especially, has the pedigree, just perhaps not showing it or perhaps young Ferguson has surpassed expectations, immediately limiting both Gleeson and Forrester's game time.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: A llad insane on November 03, 2018, 10:08:15 AM
Looks a bit soft to me & not going to be suited to game up here, if given time on the ball i'm sure he would be effective, but lets face it he wont get that time.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on November 04, 2018, 09:50:17 PM
then you make time, the guy is a shiter end of
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on November 04, 2018, 10:50:23 PM
Left out again today, and Campbell was called on to the bench when Gleeson got injured in the warm up. I fear it is all but over for him, already. Never saw McInnes' pre match interviews though, was Forrester injured for this one or was he just left out of the squad altogether again?
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on November 05, 2018, 08:18:47 AM
Left out again today, and Campbell was called on to the bench when Gleeson got injured in the warm up. I fear it is all but over for him, already. Never saw McInnes' pre match interviews though, was Forrester injured for this one or was he just left out of the squad altogether again?

Presume he's just left out. He's been turning out for the reserves.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: BigAl on December 03, 2018, 12:59:40 PM

Know it's a couple of weeks ago, but is there smoke without fire  :dunno:
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on December 03, 2018, 01:04:44 PM

Know it's a couple of weeks ago, but is there smoke without fire  :dunno:

He's not even playing for the reserves now. He was for a few weeks, but not been in their squads either. He is finished, I will be utterly astounded ( Literally ) if this guy makes another appearance for us. Mental and a stark reminder that McInnes spent cash on him. He's not even bothered his arse to try and repay it ( Forrester I mean )
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Ten Caat on December 03, 2018, 01:09:04 PM
Coming from Peterborough where they don't pay pennies to their players.........Jason Naismith went there in the summer in preference to us (we couldnt match what they are paying him)........Forrester is going to be in our top 5 or 6 earners, I'd imagine at least £4k/week but maybe even more.

I'm sure we would write off the £200k transfer fee to get him out but a League of Ireland club.....even Dundalk....I doubt could even pay half of what we are shelling out every week. I agree that there's no smoke without fire but to get him out we are going to have to rely on either the player himself agreeing to cancel his contract with us (unlikely) or accept that as well as writing off the transfer fee, we may well have to subsidise his wages elsewhere to quite a substantial degree.

Whoever scouted him should be tarred and feathered....
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: tlg1903 on December 03, 2018, 05:06:34 PM
I hear on the grapevine he likes a scoop.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Northstar on December 03, 2018, 09:28:47 PM
We've more chance of winning the league than forrester getting a game again..
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on December 04, 2018, 09:15:45 PM
Just read on Social Media that Forrester's Sister has passed away. I guess that might be a reason for his absence in the training pictures, or perhaps even be the reason for his underwhelming start here, maybe she was suffering an illness and it has been on his mind? In any case, sad news for the lad. I feel like a bit of a cunt for this thread now.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: BigAl on December 04, 2018, 10:09:21 PM
Not good news.
As already said this might explain a few things.
Maybe, just maybe we'll see him back in an Aberdeen shirt post winter break.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Ten Caat on December 04, 2018, 10:12:46 PM
Seems to have been sudden and unexpected so can't use it as an excuse for how things have gone so far. Still a tragedy for the loon. RIP

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrIQZLO.gZcdH4AyzJ3Bwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMWk2OWNtBGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1543990094/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.her.ie%2fnews%2fa-female-private-has-been-found-dead-in-a-dublin-army-barracks-437687/RK=2/RS=EH5Jyrdq29.PyouFLLGCWeHXk8c-
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 04, 2018, 10:37:45 PM
Suicide is at unbelievable proportions in the armed forces, or at least it used to be when I was close enough to it, not that it gets reported widely. The bullying culture is almost taken as an occupational hazard. Tragic for the family.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: RicoS321 on December 04, 2018, 10:52:46 PM
Was it suicide? It just said sudden death (or Golden Goal as it was called for a while).

Shame like. Wasn't aware that suicide was rife in the forces, but I suppose it makes sense. I assumed that bullying was actually part of the training if you know what I mean? I couldn't hack it like. Being told what to do wouldn't really work for me.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 04, 2018, 11:05:10 PM
Was it suicide? It just said sudden death (or Golden Goal as it was called for a while).

Shame like. Wasn't aware that suicide was rife in the forces, but I suppose it makes sense. I assumed that bullying was actually part of the training if you know what I mean? I couldn't hack it like. Being told what to do wouldn't really work for me.

No idea if it was suicide. Was just saying. It was the first thing that crossed my mind.

I also could never have hacked that shit.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 05, 2018, 10:41:46 AM
Being told what to do wouldn't really work for me.

This got me thinking....

I wouldn't have a problem being told what to do if I believed in the teller and I understood why I was meant to be doing it. I can't be a pawn in someone else's game however, which is why I've been my own boss for 25 years. From memory and some of your posts, am I right that you're also your own boss?

Never having had a good boss nor a mentor, I kind of grew to resent authority. In fact, I detested the vast majority of my managers over the years and didn't have even an ounce of respect for any of them. So I guess I'm very thankful that I worked for fools. I wouldn't have found out shit if I'd been a cog in someone else's wheel. Yin and Yang. Karma and Destiny. War and Love.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: the real rumpus on December 05, 2018, 11:09:26 AM
Exactly the same path i've been on , RS. The path to enlightenment can be a slow process, but worth it when you get there. I truly felt like a god when i knew there was nothing left for me to achieve. I became an Adonis.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 05, 2018, 02:12:02 PM
The path to enlightenment can be a slow process, but worth it when you get there.

Agreed. In fact it is necessary that it is a slow process. Impossible otherwise.

I truly felt like a god when i knew there was nothing left for me to achieve. I became an Adonis.

Confused thinking. It is not possible to be left with nothing more to achieve. Having plenty of money is nice, especially when it's been earned with zero inherited, allowing us to sweep the shelves of Asda of the cut price Bollinger in time for Xmas and book lovely hotels on our next ventures but being able to buy whatever we want when we want it does not equate to jack shit, when we're talking about the bigger issues, of which the gods certainly pertain to. You have much to learn rumpleforeskin, as we all do. I look forward to watching you in action tonight in furtherance of my education but fyi, there's a game on so after 10.30 aye?
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: TheDeeDon on December 08, 2018, 06:14:25 PM
He was back on the bench today, which I found surprising, even more surprising that we were shyte in the middle of the park and offering nothing going forward, but still Gleeson and Forrester were left on the bench.

It's hard to think anything other than they are both finished for us.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Ten Caat on December 08, 2018, 07:30:07 PM
Forrester just totally shyte. Recent bereavement no excuse.....it was a sudden death and he was shyte long before that. Finished with us I think, however I can envisage us being stuck with him long term unless we write off his transfer fee and heavily subsidise his wages at an Irish club.......cannot see even an English Conference club being interested.

Gleeson has decent footballing ability but he runs out of petrol after 60-70 minutes and about as mobile as a battleship with it's rudder missing. Similar to Stewart last season in that he looks like he is carrying at least an extra stone in weight even at this stage of the season. Don't think we would have resigned Ball on loan but management team realised he was going to be a liability virtually as soon as he arrived. Think he thought after being at Ipswich he would stroll it up here in a diddy league and has found out to his horror that the quality and intensity is miles higher than he surmised. Possibly could be a useful sub next season if as expected Shinnie fecks off in the summer but suspect if he can line up a free transfer to a lower league English club he would be allowed to leave in January.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on December 08, 2018, 11:41:36 PM
mcinnes signed them he is the problem they are the symptom
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Stewart on January 22, 2019, 01:38:13 PM
Released.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Jute on January 22, 2019, 01:43:12 PM
Stewart beat me to it.

https://www.afc.co.uk/2019/01/22/chris-forrester/
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on January 22, 2019, 01:47:39 PM
up there, no in fact worse than Tommy Wright .... must be 300k spunked away for zero , very very strange/bad/inept
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Reidzer 1314 on January 22, 2019, 01:50:23 PM
Glad our finances or so vast that we can pay around £200k on a player, only to go and rip up his contract a few months later  ???
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: RicoS321 on January 22, 2019, 02:14:31 PM
Glad our finances or so vast that we can pay around £200k on a player, only to go and rip up his contract a few months later  ???

I don't think we paid £200K with the intention of releasing him in the window.....

I'm not sure what your solution is? Stop paying money for players in case it doesn't work out?

I think it's good that we have the ability to admit our mistakes and get rid. Far better that, than feeling obliged to give him a 20 minute run out here and there in order to keep him happy.

Would a £100K (half our Forrester fee) increase in the recruitment staff budget result in a better return on our scouting? Signings like this, Tansey etc would certainly suggest some investment wouldn't be wasted. Although, I have no idea what additional scouting could be bought for that type of money.

I'm going to claim that I had first call on here suggesting that Forrester wasn't up to it (and Gleeson). From the minute I saw him, I could tell that there was a huge part of his game missing to play in the current AFC team. I also called out Tansey before he signed, and Storey. I think I could get a better return on our investments if the club were willing to pay me £100K
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on January 22, 2019, 02:19:45 PM
so what are you seeing that our scouts arent ? it appears he was going through the motions at peterborough its a strange one and an expensive one if you factor in wages
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Reidzer 1314 on January 22, 2019, 02:21:36 PM
I don't think we paid £200K with the intention of releasing him in the window.....

I'm not sure what your solution is? Stop paying money for players in case it doesn't work out?

I think it's good that we have the ability to admit our mistakes and get rid. Far better that, than feeling obliged to give him a 20 minute run out here and there in order to keep him happy.

Would a £100K (half our Forrester fee) increase in the recruitment staff budget result in a better return on our scouting? Signings like this, Tansey etc would certainly suggest some investment wouldn't be wasted. Although, I have no idea what additional scouting could be bought for that type of money.

I'm going to claim that I had first call on here suggesting that Forrester wasn't up to it (and Gleeson). From the minute I saw him, I could tell that there was a huge part of his game missing to play in the current AFC team. I also called out Tansey before he signed, and Storey. I think I could get a better return on our investments if the club were willing to pay me £100K

I am sure some sort of deal to get him back to Ireland could have been sorted, whether it was a loan or permanent transfer.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: RicoS321 on January 22, 2019, 02:35:47 PM
I am sure some sort of deal to get him back to Ireland could have been sorted, whether it was a loan or permanent transfer.

Ahhh, I see fit yer saying, apologies. I suspect he's effectively been given a small pay-off with a gardening leave style agreement whereby if he gets a new contract within the life of his contract with us then we stop paying him. Would seem standard.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: RicoS321 on January 22, 2019, 02:52:34 PM
so what are you seeing that our scouts arent ? it appears he was going through the motions at peterborough its a strange one and an expensive one if you factor in wages

Fuck knows. I suspect they looked at him and saw a guy that is capable on the ball and pretty capable of doing the range of passing in a similar fashion to Tansey at ICT. Perhaps there is a dearth of statistics (or they are inaccurate) on a player's coverage during a game and the scouts were drawn into the trap of associating balls-skills with running and effort. If a player makes a number of good passes, or nice touches then I suspect they can appear significantly better than they actually are, or be seen to be doing more than they are - just my theory like, probably pish. For Tansey, I suspect that if - as I assume it was him - McInnes saw him in games against us then he was just too close to the action in the dugout. From further back and in the ends (I sit in RDL) it was clear his movement was pap, but he had good quality when on the ball in his days with ICT (again, my theory). In terms of "going through the motions" at Peterborough, I suppose that can be seen in two ways. One is that there is a good player with a bad attitude and the other is that there is a good player with a good attitude that isn't happy in their current environment. You have to assume that AFC saw the latter and saw the huge possibilities for improvements in his game that could turn a cheap investment into a good one. That isn't a ridiculous position to take when it comes to the lowe English leagues. They're a totally different kettle of fish to up here. It was obvious that he didn't have the physical attributes to play in the hoofer divisions, but not unfeasable that he'd have the physique to play in our league. Turned out he was just an absolute fanny as well as not being capable of the additional effort and that became apparent on day one (to me anyway) for us. It was clear almost immediately that, even with huge improvements in the required aspects of his game he wouldn't reach the required level.

In short, fuck knows, I think it's probably just quite a hard job and a lot of it is down to luck!
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Ten Caat on January 22, 2019, 04:16:01 PM
I don't think we paid £200K with the intention of releasing him in the window.....

I'm not sure what your solution is? Stop paying money for players in case it doesn't work out?

I think it's good that we have the ability to admit our mistakes and get rid. Far better that, than feeling obliged to give him a 20 minute run out here and there in order to keep him happy.

Would a £100K (half our Forrester fee) increase in the recruitment staff budget result in a better return on our scouting? Signings like this, Tansey etc would certainly suggest some investment wouldn't be wasted. Although, I have no idea what additional scouting could be bought for that type of money.

I'm also going to lay claim to writing him off first.....I did so mid August. And laid a doubler with saying Gleeson wouldn''t make it either. Did think both would survive till the summer before leaving in some way or another. I'm now waiting for DM to call with the inevitable offer of making me Head of Scouting. In turn I might offer Rico the new position of Eastern European scout.....

I'm going to claim that I had first call on here suggesting that Forrester wasn't up to it (and Gleeson). From the minute I saw him, I could tell that there was a huge part of his game missing to play in the current AFC team. I also called out Tansey before he signed, and Storey. I think I could get a better return on our investments if the club were willing to pay me £100K
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: RicoS321 on January 22, 2019, 05:24:13 PM
You've got nae hope, you can't even quote properly...
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Ten Caat on January 22, 2019, 05:36:02 PM
Using a tablet as I killed the lappy last night with a half pint of ginger beer strategically spilt into the inner gubbins.....will get the hang of it by season 2022/23
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: RicoS321 on January 22, 2019, 05:44:48 PM
Ahh, fuck, nae luck.

Anyway, just to prove my worth as a scout (and take first place in the Gleeson and Forrester are pish race):

Aye, it was a good game, close to a very good game. We were probably unlucky as they didn't create that much, but then neither did we I suppose. At least I can justify going down to the away leg, even though we don't stand much chance. Top marks to Devlin, Ball, Logan, GMS, McGinn and Cosgrove. Thought Gleeson was poor when he came on, but a difficult game to come into in that position. McInnes was right to make the early sub too, with Ferguson a little niaive at times in positioning and possession, but he looks a find. Worrying that Forrester wasn't deemed good/fit enough tonight. From the Red TV viewing of the WBA game my impression was that he wasn't going to provide the coverage that we require of our midfielders, but perhaps that will just rule him out of games like these where we need to sit deeper.

I like to call things early as it's a fitba forum, with the obvious caveat that I'd be delighted to be proved wrong. His coverage yesterday was poor, and he let the game pass him by in large spells. He had a couple of nice passes. He was weak though, and did pull out of a few challenges, most notably one near the tunnel where he had a good half a second advantage on their player yet was second to the ball. We needed a dominant midfielder, and he looks like a Rob Milsom. Put another way: he's nae as good as Dom Ball. Our best midfield at the moment is Ball, Shinnie and Ferguson. I don't think Ball's passing ability is good enough for him to start every week, so I think we need someone that's better. Early days etc, but Gleeson looks like a player that doesn't have the attributes we need.

Forrester will also need to up his game as he's very much a poor version of Christie.

Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: manc_don on January 22, 2019, 07:33:43 PM
I'm actually impressed that the club have held their hands up and done the right thing here. Yes it's cost us money, but i'd rather it be this way than persisting on giving game time to a waste of space.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: baggy89 on January 22, 2019, 08:28:16 PM
I'm actually impressed that the club have held their hands up and done the right thing here. Yes it's cost us money, but i'd rather it be this way than persisting on giving game time to a waste of space.

Reads as though contract was terminated at his request. Not sure how strong a bargaining position that puts him in? There’s a possibility we might have given him something to protect ourselves against him turning up tomorrow having signed for Scunthorpe but would hope that original contract and subsequent termination agreement would leave us well protected against that. So not beyond the realms that it was just essentially ripped up.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: tlg1903 on January 22, 2019, 09:37:47 PM
Reads as though contract was terminated at his request. Not sure how strong a bargaining position that puts him in? There’s a possibility we might have given him something to protect ourselves against him turning up tomorrow having signed for Scunthorpe but would hope that original contract and subsequent termination agreement would leave us well protected against that. So not beyond the realms that it was just essentially ripped up.

I had similar thoughts.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: scotfree on January 23, 2019, 12:23:33 AM
Would the club not have some insurance policy in regards things like this happening?
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: rocket_scientist on January 23, 2019, 12:42:23 AM
Would the club not have some insurance policy in regards things like this happening?

I hope Cardiff were insured against THAT happening.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: manc_don on January 23, 2019, 01:38:42 AM
Was thinking about that earlier, surely something like that would have been in place?
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: BigAl on January 23, 2019, 11:20:15 AM
Announced as having signed a three year contract back at St Pats this morning.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Tyrant on January 23, 2019, 11:52:11 AM
Announced as having signed a three year contract back at St Pats this morning.

Worth a look?
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on January 23, 2019, 12:47:00 PM
Shame for the lad considering his personal circumstances, but it is the best solution for both parties, just a pity it was an expensive one ( in relative terms ) and also Tansey, we've forked out a few quid on releasing players from their contracts. I'd also imagine we are contributing more towards Greg Stewarts wages than Killie did, bringing Lowe back as well, is there anything left to add another Forward, perhaps another Central Midfielder, fuck, even a Winger? We could do a lot worse than allowing Scott Wright to go out on loan for the remainder of the season and bring in another experienced Winger ( Similar to McGinn & GMS ) Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on January 23, 2019, 01:02:23 PM
Coming home, it's giving me a fresh start. I'm around my family, I'm around my girl, my friends.

"I'm back at a club that I think genuinely likes me."


make of that what you will ..shyster
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on February 19, 2019, 01:30:16 PM
the charlatan scored last night for st pats
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Ten Caat on February 19, 2019, 01:39:23 PM
Filed under "couldn't give a shit"
Title: Re: Chris Forrester - Finished?
Post by: Kowalski on February 19, 2019, 09:58:35 PM
the charlatan scored last night for st pats

Weirdo.