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Title: Scott McKenna
Post by: BigAl on October 19, 2017, 02:46:11 PM
Probably time he got his own thread.

Anyway

http://www.afc.co.uk/news/10250.php#.WeisiFtSyUk

Signed on until summer 2021 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: wee toon red on October 19, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
But McInnes never gives youth a chance etc  :hammer:

Great to see another youngster sign on for the long term and hopefully he can keep this form up for a few more games yet and, when the inevitable dip comes, the majority of the fans can take that for what it is and not get on his back.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: manc_don on October 19, 2017, 09:13:31 PM
Excellent news! Now get arnie signed on am extension please. He has so much to teach the lad. Great to see him take his chance. Long may it continue!
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on July 28, 2019, 09:00:09 AM
Retard reporting we have turned down 2 bids in the region of £3million from both QPR and Notts Forest for McKenna.

Value halved in a year in which he has established himself as Scotland's first choice centre back? They can gtf…..Only 11 days remaining in the English transfer window, interesting to see if they come back with improved bids with Hull City also reported to be monitoring the situation. FWIW I do think if they match the £6million Villa offered then we should take it, put £5 million towards the new stadium and hand DM £1million to source a decent replacement and possibly one other player of his choice.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: manc_don on July 28, 2019, 09:29:07 AM
Can you honestly say he's been very good for the last year? Not sure if he's anywhere near his original value.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: rocket_scientist on July 28, 2019, 10:46:40 AM
Can you honestly say he's been very good for the last year? Not sure if he's anywhere near his original value.

I'm not qualified to comment on this season but if you did a graph with quality of performances over time, there is no doubt that McKenna was more effective in his first few months than he's been in his last few. He's been regressing, going backwards rather than improving which would be highly unusual for a young footballer gaining in experience but for the consistency in his manager's track record.

Logan, McGinn, May, Stewart, GMS, Reynolds all went backwards, some of them from very high initial standards. Kenny McLean also regressed and was allowed to deliver no better than average for many months until he signed a pre-contract with Norwich, where he delivered great standards last season, free from McInnes. Ryan Christie was tremendous in his early days and also regressed alarmingly. The change in him when he went back to Celtic was amazing and his goal in the Final denied us a trophy, not that we had a shot on goal the whole match, the most one-sided 1-0 in history. The huge promise shown by Wright, Campbell, Anderson, Ross etc. hasn't come through either and the best footballer at Pittodrie this century, Maddison, his obvious talent was so invisible to (or resented by) McInnes he didn't even get played latterly.

Greg Stewart's 16 games for Kilmarnock in between his spells at AFC was perhaps the clearest example that our manager doesn't just fail to get the best from otherwise good footballers, he makes them perform worse. McKenna is just another in the very long production line but our board see fit to pay McInnes a lot of money for his incompetence.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: LA-Don on July 28, 2019, 04:13:00 PM
Sell McKenna, sign shaughnessy, move Considine to left central defender, and look for a long term replacement for the aging Andy. McKenna has been average for the last year, at fault for a few goals too. I say we cash in while we can, but nothing less than the 6 mill we declined before. Then again, if Tierney is worth 25 mill why not 10 for Scott?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Elgindon on July 28, 2019, 05:31:55 PM
I'm not qualified to comment on this season but if you did a graph with quality of performances over time, there is no doubt that McKenna was more effective in his first few months than he's been in his last few. He's been regressing, going backwards rather than improving which would be highly unusual for a young footballer gaining in experience but for the consistency in his manager's track record.

Logan, McGinn, May, Stewart, GMS, Reynolds all went backwards, some of them from very high initial standards. Kenny McLean also regressed and was allowed to deliver no better than average for many months until he signed a pre-contract with Norwich, where he delivered great standards last season, free from McInnes. Ryan Christie was tremendous in his early days and also regressed alarmingly. The change in him when he went back to Celtic was amazing and his goal in the Final denied us a trophy, not that we had a shot on goal the whole match, the most one-sided 1-0 in history. The huge promise shown by Wright, Campbell, Anderson, Ross etc. hasn't come through either and the best footballer at Pittodrie this century, Maddison, his obvious talent was so invisible to (or resented by) McInnes he didn't even get played latterly.

Greg Stewart's 16 games for Kilmarnock in between his spells at AFC was perhaps the clearest example that our manager doesn't just fail to get the best from otherwise good footballers, he makes them perform worse. McKenna is just another in the very long production line but our board see fit to pay McInnes a lot of money for his incompetence.

  Dont agree with your perma-rage against McInnes,though I thought the end of last season would have been a good point for both parties to part company amicably.Saying that,now that he's chosen to stay,I am quite curious to see how these signings work.....for now
    Where i do agree,is that our style of football could be having an adverse affect on some players confidence,or enthusiasm.If the eye watering football weve endured at times is off putting for us,then it must be the same to have to play that way youd think.I dont want to win a game,and probably the players, by stopping another team from winning. I'm sure players respond more to playing 'edgier' football. I wish he'd evolve a bit more as a manager,test his caution now and again.Not healthy to have such a fixed vision of how to play football.Pity,as he attracts a good standard of player,in a sound environment
   
       
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: rocket_scientist on July 28, 2019, 10:47:02 PM
It's not a "perma-rage" at all. I'm not even slightly raging. I don't care. My fuck-giving tank is empty.

All I said was that McKenna has gone backwards like so many others have done under McInnes.

Please argue with the point I made without making assumptions which are just plain wrong.

I know it's hard to accept or admit that the cause we've been investing in is rotten to the core.

Tell me about it! I've been doing it longer than most. But never again.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Reidzer 1314 on July 29, 2019, 08:32:31 AM
If Celtic value Tierney at £25 Million then £10 million for McKenna isn't actually that bad a price.

If it was me however I would seriously consider around £7 Million for him.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on July 29, 2019, 08:51:36 AM
I've yet to see any evidence of the £6M offer, and I don't believe it occurred. There only seemed to be confirmed bids of around £3.5M last year and I could see that being matched this season.

I also dont believe McKenna has regressed at all. He had numerous poor games and a temporary dip in form as you'd expect from a youngster, but I think his overall game has improved and I think that'll begin to become more obvious this season as he gets more and more confident. I think we'll start see him imposing himself a lot more and taking the ball forward a lot more too.

He's not worth more than £3-4M in my mind, but I think that a good 6 months could see him stretch that a good bit.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: rocket_scientist on July 29, 2019, 09:10:09 AM
One crucial aspect in player performance and development is environment. Unless you work with high level athletes and coaches, this won't necessarily be understood or appreciated but Tierney is an interesting example. Andy Robertson is his direct competitor for Left Back for Scotland so a comparison between the two can illustrate the point;

There is no doubt that KT was a brilliant teenager and an exciting prospect, arguably more so than AR at the same age. But where KT stayed at Celtic, AR took a circuitous route to the European Champions where he established himself last season as a regular and a key man. As of right now, I would pick AR for the national team all day every day over KT.

It's not just my opinion that KT has plateaued or perhaps even regressed in the last 12-18 months. The Celtic regulars tell me this too. But consider the motivation levels he'll be experiencing; playing for a team who wins everything and who faced zero realistic challenge for the past three years, where's the incentive to improve?

AR on the other hand benefited from working under one of the best coaches in the world and with a squad of superb footballers day in, day out. With Tierney moving to Arsenal, this is his opportunity to prove if he's as good as his early promise and whereas he is facing the stiffest of tests - the quality of opponent in the EFL being the best in the world - it will be the quality of the environment around him that will be the biggest influence in whether he makes it or not.

I can't see Emery developing KT into a better footballer than AR but it's going to be interesting to see it unfold. McKenna on the other hand won't get a move to an EPL club because any scout worth his onions watching him for two consecutive games will see that he's not good enough, handicapped by poor decision-making and being prone to big errors as he is, something that his manager and the AFC environment have failed to address, assuming they even know his weaknesses, which isn't a given.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: rocket_scientist on July 29, 2019, 09:44:19 AM
I also dont believe McKenna has regressed at all.

Is your optimism and false hopes blinding you to reality? Do you feel uncomfortable that the club you invest much time and money in won't give you a worthy return? Are you in denial about the agenda of the chairman and the quality of personnel he's employed in the "football side of the business", not that I know of any other "sides"? Haven't you noticed the dwindling interest in the NE towards AFC? Don't you see the consistency in the regression of the performances over the last 2/3 years and even if you did, what's changed to reverse this trend?

When you wrote "numerous poor games and a temporary dip in form as you'd expect from a youngster", that doesn't sound like a footballer who has NOT regressed. In fact, temporary dips in form is not what we would expect, ever, from a hungry talented footballer learning his craft where greater experience is exponentially more beneficial in his first few weeks and months. There is no question that from his debut at Fir Park to the screamer he scored at Pittodrie from 85 yards, McKenna was infinitely better than he's been last season. Somethings going awry, whether you care to admit it or not.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on July 29, 2019, 10:36:41 AM
Is your optimism and false hopes blinding you to reality? Do you feel uncomfortable that the club you invest much time and money in won't give you a worthy return? Are you in denial about the agenda of the chairman and the quality of personnel he's employed in the "football side of the business", not that I know of any other "sides"? Haven't you noticed the dwindling interest in the NE towards AFC? Don't you see the consistency in the regression of the performances over the last 2/3 years and even if you did, what's changed to reverse this trend?

There is rarely optimism and false hope in any of my posts if you were to look at them. I think I'm quite a realist. Me suggesting that McKenna hasn't regressed is hardly an example of blind faith, if there is regression, it's very marginal. In terms of the team, again I'm a realist. I stated at the very beginning of the last two seasons that I thought our recruitment was poor and that we had a poor team that would struggle to win anything or finish in the top two and that's exactly what happened. I'd say that it was my realism in how poor a team (squad, really) we'd assembled that meant my expectations were low. I think that our recruitment has been terrible in the last few years and mentioned it in nearly every single post. I'd say it's the primary cause of our poor form, our very ugly performances and thus a reduction interest in AFC. We went from a team that scored a record number of goals in a season, playing some really really good football on the way - under McInnes - to one that deliberately stifled games to see out results in an absolute desire for points on the board over performance (which actually worked when we pipped the hun for second, but showed its obvious flaws in the cup). I've mentioned a hundred times my thoughts on AFC's plans.

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When you wrote "numerous poor games and a temporary dip in form as you'd expect from a youngster", that doesn't sound like a footballer who has NOT regressed. In fact, temporary dips in form is not what we would expect, ever, from a hungry talented footballer learning his craft where greater experience is exponentially more beneficial in his first few weeks and months. There is no question that from his debut at Fir Park to the screamer he scored at Pittodrie from 85 yards, McKenna was infinitely better than he's been last season. Somethings going awry, whether you care to admit it or not.

McKenna was not infiinitely better in my opinion, it's just that most people were uncritical of the mistakes that a young loon was regularly making. He carried quite a few of those into his second season but finished the season strongly and looks fitter and stronger still this season. I don't think that your example of Andy Robertson is particularly relevant to McKenna as I don't believe McKenna has ever been close to that category of player and nor is likely to get there with his skillset. I don't believe McKenna will (or would have with some other manager) make it to the level of Ryan Fraser, but even he experienced a good couple of years where he struggled to make any impact (indeed, his performances even dipped in his last month or so with the dons as defenders worked out how to double up on him and make things difficult). Maddison flew onto the scene as a youngster before ending up at the dons on loan. It happens to almost every young footballer as they try to re-invent themselves and really work out what it is they need to do to get to the next level. Russell Anderson a very notable example for the dons. I have not suggested that McInnes is the man to turn McKenna into the next Alex McLeish but he's got a player that's playing regularly for Scotland and a player that plays with absolute confidence in his own ability with a fantastic temperament. I'm happy to criticise McInnes - and regularly do - with regard to his handling of youth players, but I see very very little to criticise in the case of McKenna. 
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: rocket_scientist on July 29, 2019, 10:54:59 AM
I didn't say that Robertson was comparable to McKenna, obviously, as they're poles apart in quality and don't even perform in the same roles. There was a post comparing Tierney and McKenna's value. I didn't even go into that comparison/argument but I took the Tierney example to compare with Robertson to highlight the value of environment in a players development and performances.

We disagree that McKenna has regressed, or perhaps we don't when you say he might have "very marginally" and that's fine but would you admit that many footballers at AFC have performed worse and gone backwards under McInnes, even if we don't/might agree that McKenna is one of them?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: rocket_scientist on July 29, 2019, 11:02:10 AM
The bottom line is that McKenna is the biggest asset at the club. That much we can all agree on. Given his age and natural attributes, he's the only AFC footballer that can be sold for any decent return.

Ambitious clubs don't try and sell their best assets. Rather, they build teams around their best talents and strive for actually winning things but as we know, our chairman is on a different path. Whatever money the chairman does cash him in for, it's not going to be £5m+ because he's not that good and whatever the reason - management, environment, player himself - he's not improved from his first six months.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: TheDeeDon on July 29, 2019, 11:49:34 AM
I thought McKenna started last season fairly poorly, but thought he was excellent by the end, he is probably not being helped by having the consistency of a regular decent partner at the back and also we were shite last season for the most part and recruited badly last summer which didn't help him either.

We have a good player and he is certainly our biggest asset at he moment, but selling him would be a massive loss for the team and not confident our manager would find anyone of the quality of McKenna to replace him with, that said I don't think he is good enough for the EPL, possibly bottom end EPL/top end Championship would be about his level, but paired beside another decent defender and who knows.

I thought Kenny McLean would bomb at Norwich, but has happily proved me wrong, maybe Scotty can do the same and wouldn't put it past him as he has a great attitude and I enjoy seeing him in the Aberdeen shirt
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on July 29, 2019, 12:18:12 PM
We disagree that McKenna has regressed, or perhaps we don't when you say he might have "very marginally" and that's fine but would you admit that many footballers at AFC have performed worse and gone backwards under McInnes, even if we don't/might agree that McKenna is one of them?

I would say some, not many. Some have improved. I think Shinnie, McLean, McGinn, Hayes, Considine, Lewis, Logan, Cosgrove (so far), Rooney were all better than under McInnes than they had been previously. They all seemed to enjoy playing for him too. The biggest issue for me is his inability to turn young players like Scott Wright, McLennan and so on into regular first team successes. He tries to make things far too difficult for players breaking through rather than give them basic instructions and a few simple tasks and allow the 7-8 more senior players to cover for their deficiencies and then increasing the instructions as they gain experience.

Ambitious clubs don't try and sell their best assets. Rather, they build teams around their best talents and strive for actually winning things but as we know, our chairman is on a different path. Whatever money the chairman does cash him in for, it's not going to be £5m+ because he's not that good and whatever the reason - management, environment, player himself - he's not improved from his first six months.

Lack of ambition has to be tempered with realism though surely? If we were offered £5M+ for McKenna (I agree with you, we wont - certainly not this summer) then the only question is if we can get a good replacement for a significantly smaller sum that would allow us to develop elsewhere and put the remainder towards future development of youth through better training facilities or a shitey stadium in the middle of nowhere. I think I could buy a good centre half and a good striker that would make us a better team for £2M whilst still losing McKenna and putting the remainder toward capital investments that helped to create more McKennas. That's not unambitious, that's just good logic. I don't want the club to be beholden to a hoose builder for constant investment.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on July 29, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
Assuming we got £5milion for McKenna.....just cannot see us paying £2million for a replacement. The main reason being that a £2million player will demand a salary commensurate with that fee and totally destroy our fairly strict salary budget. I'd suggest a player costing that amount would instruct his agent to be looking at a salary using £10k/wk as a starting figure for negotiations, more likely looking at getting between £12-15k/week as he could easily earn in the English Championship. Whilst I'm certain we probably could stretch to that sort of figure in the correct circumstances, the problem would knock on to the rest of the squad in their last year of their contracts whose agents would be demanding whacking great increases in their salaries to re-sign. And thus either the salary budget is increased substantially or we allow a load of players to move on and require yet another large recruitment next summer.


In reality I don't expect McInnes to be handed any more than £1million from any sale of McKenna. The majority of any fee received will have to go towards the new stadium and rightly so. That would allow him to buy a decent replacement......maybe Findlay from Killie? Or a young EFL1 level prospect? Both would cost somewhere between £500-750k and not break our current wage structure and leave a bit of cash over for Mcinnes to add another player (striker?) on top if he so wished
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on July 29, 2019, 01:39:22 PM
Assuming we got £5milion for McKenna.....just cannot see us paying £2million for a replacement. The main reason being that a £2million player will demand a salary commensurate with that fee and totally destroy our fairly strict salary budget.
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Entirely agree, was just using it (£2M) as an example.

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In reality I don't expect McInnes to be handed any more than £1million from any sale of McKenna. The majority of any fee received will have to go towards the new stadium and rightly so. That would allow him to buy a decent replacement......maybe Findlay from Killie? Or a young EFL1 level prospect? Both would cost somewhere between £500-750k and not break our current wage structure and leave a bit of cash over for Mcinnes to add another player (striker?) on top if he so wished

Rocket, TC's example above is what I would class as reasonably ambitious. Not breaking our wage structure (which is generally related to our turnover), whilst improving our team in order to get more folks through the door in order to increase our wage structure. I just don't see McKenna (as opposed to Findlay mentioned above) as being the difference between us finishing second or third, getting into the Europa league or winning a cup.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: rocket_scientist on July 29, 2019, 02:51:39 PM
I would say some, not many. Some have improved. I think Shinnie, McLean, McGinn, Hayes, Considine, Lewis, Logan, Cosgrove (so far), Rooney were all better than under McInnes than they had been previously. They all seemed to enjoy playing for him too.

I don't see Shinnie as having improved under McInnes and I was aghast when he was moved from LB. He always had heart and dig, he was never that effective as a midfielder and wasn't a great provider as he lacked creative vision let alone execution but was reasonably successfully deployed there only to paper over the cracks of McInnes's very poor recruitment (of creative players).

McLean was infuriating UNTIL he signed a pre-contract for Norwich and it must have been self-motivation rather than anything the manager did to explain his vastly improved performances. On the contrary, he was murder and lazy for many months before his last 5.

McGinn was at his best when he scored 9 goals in 10 games, including for his country (v. Portugal I believe). I remember at St Mirren when we heard Clangers screaming from the other end of the pitch at McGinn, as he once again lost the ball and put in yet another abject shift. McGinn has only had flashes of great football over the years and they've been so rare and almost non-existent in his final months before he left and the whole time he's been back.

Hayes did what good footballers normally do, he did improve with age and experience.

Considine was misused by McInnes and it was only last season when Cons went public and said that he wasn't a LB. Considine was a great prospect in the last decade and whilst he's been a great servant, he's limited and I can't accept that the manager has improved him.

Lewis is a great keeper but McInnes spent years plodding on with Clangers so he's hardly qualified to add value to the goalkeeping function!

Logan was FAR superior in his first year. It has only been only time that he has regressed badly, under McInnes. That's as obvious an example as Greg Stewart.

Cosgrove is just a donkey who had a flash of competence in the middle of last season and as for Rooney, he was consistent in what he did, before and after McInnes.

We will never agree because you don't want to believe that he is as limited a manager as I know that he is, despite us agreeing on the following: -

The biggest issue for me is his inability to turn young players like Scott Wright, McLennan and so on into regular first team successes. He tries to make things far too difficult for players breaking through rather than give them basic instructions and a few simple tasks and allow the 7-8 more senior players to cover for their deficiencies and then increasing the instructions as they gain experience.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 05, 2019, 12:59:22 PM
Being reported on Talksport and in the Sun that McKenna has handed in a transfer request this morning. I heard that rumour early on (10ish) but presumed it was just that...a rumour.

Doubtless unsettled by us turning down the QPR and Notts Forest offers and his agent will no doubt have told him to take this action. Wonder if he will be on the flight to Croatia on Wednesday?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: BigAl on August 05, 2019, 01:04:29 PM
Being reported on Talksport and in the Sun that McKenna has handed in a transfer request this morning. I heard that rumour early on (10ish) but presumed it was just that...a rumour.

Doubtless unsettled by us turning down the QPR and Notts Forest offers and his agent will no doubt have told him to take this action. Wonder if he will be on the flight to Croatia on Wednesday?

Fucking hope this is shite TC

Know he is going to goat some point, but would rather it wasn't yet FFS
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Madbadteacher on August 05, 2019, 01:18:04 PM
He’s under contract, we don’t have to accept his agent’s request.
Maybe just looking for a better contract for now?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 05, 2019, 01:22:30 PM
Nah he's wanting out. Talk now of an EPL club showing interest. Villa back in maybe? I did find it strange he would try to force a move to QPR or Forest at this point but if it is a Premiership club then it makes sense.

EDIT...BBC website now going with the transfer request ana
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Reidzer 1314 on August 05, 2019, 01:23:25 PM
Pretty poor stuff if he has done this in a week where we have a massive game and a threadbare in central defence.

If true, I hope we hold firm on the valuation and get as much £££ for him as possible. 
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Sandaldinho on August 05, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
Fair enough if a big money bid has come in but if he's just trying to force a move away then tell his agent to get to fuck. He signed the contract so I would expect him in the plane.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on August 05, 2019, 01:26:55 PM
Where did the rumours surface? The hat? We do seem to the job of the weegie press quite well in unsettling our own team. He's a dons player under contract and he's a good professional so he'll do the business at Rijeka.

If an acceptable bid comes in then we take it (and immediately get him back on loan until January!) and move on. The ball is in our court.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: LA-Don on August 05, 2019, 01:33:27 PM
Given how DM has said more than once that McKenna may not be with us much longer, I wonder than plan. He’s also said a squad should have 7 defenders and we have 6, who he’s targeting as the replacement?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 05, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
Rhecord now saying that the timing of it has infuriated DM and there's no way he will be sold unless a bid that matches the club's valuation is received.

Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Reidzer 1314 on August 05, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Chris Harvey Tweeting confirmation of the transfer request, also said that Ash Taylor is 2-3 weeks away from being back and Devlin not likely to be ready for Thursday.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Slim on August 05, 2019, 02:03:45 PM
This smells like Celtic.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Reidzer 1314 on August 05, 2019, 02:09:28 PM
This smells like Celtic.

I had the exact same thought.

I know some people are talking about Leicester or Newcastle but they both have the money to meet a valuation with Aberdeen if they really wanted him.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 05, 2019, 02:27:18 PM
This smells like Celtic.

Timing suggests not. There's 4 weeks to go in the Scottish transfer window and Ajer hasn't left (yet anyway). With Celtic playing in Romania on Wednesday, they'll be too busy preparing for that today and will be flying out tomorrow, and with us flying out Wednesday to Croatia, there just isn't any need for the rush.

This is definitely his agent's doing and it's to England that McKenna wants to go. I honestly didn't think he would put in a transfer request at this point, but money talks. I'm guessing he's on around £4k/week with us but a Championship club could treble that, maybe even quadruple it and not break sweat.

Whatever transpires.......both McKenna and his agent now come out looking like total cunts
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: wee toon red on August 05, 2019, 02:40:50 PM
McKenna can shove his request up his arse. He was happy to sign a long-term contract so unless we get a bid that meets our valuation, and a suitable replacement in, he can keep his trap shut.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on August 05, 2019, 02:53:05 PM
McKenna can shove his request up his arse. He was happy to sign a long-term contract so unless we get a bid that meets our valuation, and a suitable replacement in, he can keep his trap shut.

Meh, who knows. The club could also be being dicks here, they've got form. The best thing is transparency in these situations and I expect both the club and the agent are incapable of such. They should be working together in the best interests of the loon and the long term best for him is to go for as much money as possible, because that not only increases his wage in the short term, but will ensure that future offers retain a high value too. "Handing in a transfer request" is overtly political as it's contractually meaningless. However, if the club have turned down offers without informing/involving the player - for example - then that too is under-handed. Either way, the club should be able to deal quickly and easily with this type of thing and ensure that the boy plays this week and perhaps next too. He'll know that it's in his best interests to keep playing to the best of his ability and I've nae doubt he'll do that.

Unless he's taking the huff because McInnes told him he was shite yesterday of course, which he should have, because he was.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: DantheDon on August 05, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
I think its hard to draw a conclusion without knowing whats gone on behind the scenes. If McKenna has indicated he wants a transfer away privately before now then maybe he feels he needs to force the issue. If we have really had offers of £5 million+ with a decent sell on then we should sell him.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: SeeBass on August 05, 2019, 03:23:09 PM
Is anybody hearing anything about potential replacements because I'm guessing we'll need at least two in if Scott goes right??
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 05, 2019, 03:38:21 PM
Is anybody hearing anything about potential replacements because I'm guessing we'll need at least two in if Scott goes right??

Nothing confirmed but Jason Kerr at St Johnstone and Stuart Findlay at Killie have been mentioned as possibles that might be within our budget. If McKenna were to leave, I think our preference would be for a left sided CH. Findlay I'm certain is naturally right sided, possibly Kerr too but Kerr certainly played on the left side alongside Shaughnessy on the right last season so maybe Kerr would be seen as the preferable option
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: wee toon red on August 05, 2019, 03:43:28 PM
Nothing confirmed but Jason Kerr at St Johnstone and Stuart Findlay at Killie have been mentioned as possibles that might be within our budget. If McKenna were to leave, I think our preference would be for a left sided CH. Findlay I'm certain is naturally right sided, possibly Kerr too but Kerr certainly played on the left side alongside Shaughnessy on the right last season so maybe Kerr would be seen as the preferable option

Sign them both!
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 05, 2019, 03:44:18 PM
Nothing confirmed but Jason Kerr at St Johnstone and Stuart Findlay at Killie have been mentioned as possibles that might be within our budget. If McKenna were to leave, I think our preference would be for a left sided CH. Findlay I'm certain is naturally right sided, possibly Kerr too but Kerr certainly played on the left side alongside Shaughnessy on the right last season so maybe Kerr would be seen as the preferable option

Findlay wouldn't be able to play Europa League though, would he? I am fairly certain he'd be Ineligible.

Kerr is a decent shout, I've saw Michael Hector being mentioned too, that'd be my preferred choice if that could be done, not sure the cost involved there though.

Regarding McKenna, people pointing their finger at the agent, but he's a grown man, he was happy to sign a 5 year contract not too long ago, he's doing this himself, he wants out. We should accept around 5-6 Million, with some sort of percentage added on to his next sale, like we apparently have with Fraser, and move on. 
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: wee toon red on August 05, 2019, 03:44:35 PM
Meh, who knows. The club could also be being dicks here, they've got form. The best thing is transparency in these situations and I expect both the club and the agent are incapable of such. They should be working together in the best interests of the loon and the long term best for him is to go for as much money as possible, because that not only increases his wage in the short term, but will ensure that future offers retain a high value too. "Handing in a transfer request" is overtly political as it's contractually meaningless. However, if the club have turned down offers without informing/involving the player - for example - then that too is under-handed. Either way, the club should be able to deal quickly and easily with this type of thing and ensure that the boy plays this week and perhaps next too. He'll know that it's in his best interests to keep playing to the best of his ability and I've nae doubt he'll do that.

Unless he's taking the huff because McInnes told him he was shite yesterday of course, which he should have, because he was.

It would be odd if the club weren't keeping McKenna informed but certainly not impossible. Everyone - club, player and presumably agent - were content during the last two transfer windows so I can't really see why the club would start dicking him around now.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 05, 2019, 04:18:32 PM

Kerr is a decent shout, I've saw Michael Hector being mentioned too, that'd be my preferred choice if that could be done, not sure the cost involved there though

Last I heard, Fulham were trying to get Hector onboard from Chelsea. Even if that were to fall through, just can't see it being a goer. He's bound to be on £20k/week minimum at Chelsea (even though in his 4 years there he's played ONE game for the club.....and that was a friendly).
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 05, 2019, 04:35:13 PM
Last I heard, Fulham were trying to get Hector onboard from Chelsea. Even if that were to fall through, just can't see it being a goer. He's bound to be on £20k/week minimum at Chelsea (even though in his 4 years there he's played ONE game for the club.....and that was a friendly).

Strikes me as similar to James Wilson maybe? Surely he was on more than we could normally afford, but having been here, he was obviously happy to try and re-establish himself somewhere on a permanent. I think Hector has been loaned out since he joined Chelsea, he knows what to expect here and perhaps that could entice him. I'd be delighted with it, but I appreciate there are many obstacles.

Out of interest, what do you think St Johnstone would hold out for regarding Kerr? I saw Wright saying clubs would need to break the bank to get him, but surely it'd be less than 1 Million? He's not really established himself exactly, has he? St Johnstone regressed considerably these last 2 seasons, he's played in a lot of those game during that time.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on August 05, 2019, 04:49:54 PM
It would be odd if the club weren't keeping McKenna informed but certainly not impossible. Everyone - club, player and presumably agent - were content during the last two transfer windows so I can't really see why the club would start dicking him around now.

Aye, of course, but you could see the player saying the opposite: the club were content that he would leave given the right offer and be talking to him before bids were rejected or whatever. With a player wanting to leave I expect it wouldn't take much for him to feel he has been wronged. Given we don't know, I'd hope the fans would give him an easy ride in Croatia. One thing I think of is that we won't be getting near to what most AFC fans would consider acceptable. I think the rumours last season were inaccurate, and I reckon we'd be doing well to get £4M this summer.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: SeeBass on August 05, 2019, 05:11:03 PM
I don't think the timing of transfer request is great given Thursday's match.  We have a more than decent chance of making Group Stage if seeing off HNK Rijeka.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 05, 2019, 05:13:25 PM
I don't think the timing of transfer request is great given Thursday's match.  We have a more than decent chance of making Group Stage if seeing off HNK Rijeka.

I agree wholeheartedly SeeBass, and if it turns out this is McKenna's doing, then he can absolutely fuck off.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on August 05, 2019, 05:21:59 PM
But if he doesn't do it before Thursday, there's a danger he could remain in Scotland for the next 6 months. I'm assuming this coincides with the English window, which suggests it won't be the Tim he's targetting (or is targetting him). He's between a rock and a hard place like as he ideally needs to move before Rijeka (for himself), and he's not in control of when the bids are being made. It's a quandary like, as we need him on the plane and he needs to be in the UK to discuss terms and do medicals and such like. We'll just have to take him and keep him up to date with offers. Not great preparation, but I'm sure McInnes can handle it.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 05, 2019, 06:00:17 PM
Strikes me as similar to James Wilson maybe? Surely he was on more than we could normally afford, but having been here, he was obviously happy to try and re-establish himself somewhere on a permanent. I think Hector has been loaned out since he joined Chelsea, he knows what to expect here and perhaps that could entice him. I'd be delighted with it, but I appreciate there are many obstacles.

Out of interest, what do you think St Johnstone would hold out for regarding Kerr? I saw Wright saying clubs would need to break the bank to get him, but surely it'd be less than 1 Million? He's not really established himself exactly, has he? St Johnstone regressed considerably these last 2 seasons, he's played in a lot of those game during that time.

My son is a St Johnstone fanatic. According to him (similarly to McKenna) the fans feel he hasn't really progressed as much as they expected in the second half of last season. I'd be amazed if we had to pay more than £600k for him, although as we are likely to do with McKenna, they'd probably insist on a fairly hefty percentage of any future sell-on fee
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: LA-Don on August 05, 2019, 06:09:06 PM
I’m certainly not fussed if McKenna leaves, just want to make sure we get a solid replacement. I don’t think McKenna has been great in recent months and dare I even say he’s over rated? Still good but 10 million good? I was excited for the Devlin-McKenna partnership but neither has been great the last year for different reasons, don’t think McKenna has kicked on the last twelve months.

Hector on loan until we get the right guy would work, but I’d assume appropriate funds would be made available plus we knew this was coming so I’d like to think DM is well up to speed on what replacement he wants. Ojo and Hedges are quality, maybe we find another gem.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 05, 2019, 06:15:32 PM
But if he doesn't do it before Thursday, there's a danger he could remain in Scotland for the next 6 months. I'm assuming this coincides with the English window, which suggests it won't be the Tim he's targetting (or is targetting him). He's between a rock and a hard place like as he ideally needs to move before Rijeka (for himself), and he's not in control of when the bids are being made. It's a quandary like, as we need him on the plane and he needs to be in the UK to discuss terms and do medicals and such like. We'll just have to take him and keep him up to date with offers. Not great preparation, but I'm sure McInnes can handle it.

If Ajer did go to Leicester City, then I would imagine the Dhims would indeed come back in with an improved offer for McKenna, but I agree with the sentiment that seems to be he wants to go to England.

When is the player registration for the Rijeka game? This could be an interesting 48 hours coming up.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 05, 2019, 06:32:57 PM
My son is a St Johnstone fanatic. According to him (similarly to McKenna) the fans feel he hasn't really progressed as much as they expected in the second half of last season. I'd be amazed if we had to pay more than £600k for him, although as we are likely to do with McKenna, they'd probably insist on a fairly hefty percentage of any future sell-on fee

Just never really noticed the lad, but then again, I have only ever seen him when we've played them, and they always give us a difficult game.

Devlin being made of glass, Considine getting on a bit, Hoban potentially returning and being made of glass, Taylor being Taylor ( Not as bad as made out, but still not good enough to be our 1st choice ) .....if McKenna goes, we really must bring in another 2 CB's in my opinion, and at least one of them should be Left Footed.

Jack Hendry on a season loan from Celtic, or even until January, giving us time to find a replacement? Efe Ambrose if he still hasn't got a club, on a years contract? Either of those with a Left Footer coming in is doable.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 05, 2019, 07:14:23 PM
efe ambrose gtf seriously
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: baggy89 on August 05, 2019, 07:18:06 PM
I canna be arsed reading through the last days posts. So no idea what’s been said.
Has to be the agent trying to drive an actual bid.
Now the over rated Leicester lad is at Man U there will be a bid incoming from them.
Should have kept his mouth shut as now Leicester will think they can bid cheep, despite selling an inferior player for £80 million. 
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: A llad insane on August 05, 2019, 07:20:17 PM
First of all, i think Scott will be gone, in the next day ot 2 & wont be on the flight to Croatia, that itself leaves us right up shitcreek.
I've got this horrible feeling that Timmy are involved , & they would only be offering £3m ish + possibly Hendry.
Would rather he went down South fo 4/5 m, tbh i dont think we will get near our £10m target, also if we do go for a St.J player for example, they will know exactly how much we will have got for Scott & bump up the price accordingly.

Timing really couldn't be worse :mad:
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 05, 2019, 07:31:39 PM
efe ambrose gtf seriously

Why not? He's a good defender.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: manc_don on August 06, 2019, 12:21:18 AM
First of all, i think Scott will be gone, in the next day ot 2 & wont be on the flight to Croatia, that itself leaves us right up shitcreek.
I've got this horrible feeling that Timmy are involved , & they would only be offering £3m ish + possibly Hendry.
Would rather he went down South fo 4/5 m, tbh i dont think we will get near our £10m target, also if we do go for a St.J player for example, they will know exactly how much we will have got for Scott & bump up the price accordingly.

Timing really couldn't be worse :mad:

If McIness accepted that and signed Hendry as part of the deal, that would be worthy of a sacking imo.  An absolute abomination of a footballer.

Timing is horrific, really couldn't have been timed worse.  If he goes, I hope it's down south.  Personally, I don't think he's made the steps I had hoped he would when he broke through a couple of seasons back, but that's by the by.  We need to get as much cash as possible, ideally after the Rijeka ties.

Just when we think things are going well and we're developing a team.  Little wonder DM is furious.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Tyrant on August 06, 2019, 08:59:20 AM
Just never really noticed the lad, but then again, I have only ever seen him when we've played them, and they always give us a difficult game.

Devlin being made of glass, Considine getting on a bit, Hoban potentially returning and being made of glass, Taylor being Taylor ( Not as bad as made out, but still not good enough to be our 1st choice ) .....if McKenna goes, we really must bring in another 2 CB's in my opinion, and at least one of them should be Left Footed.

Jack Hendry on a season loan from Celtic, or even until January, giving us time to find a replacement? Efe Ambrose if he still hasn't got a club, on a years contract? Either of those with a Left Footer coming in is doable.


Fucking hell that's enough to make me greet. I will not watch Effe Ambrose in the red of The Famous. And aye Gash is every bit as bad as is made out and worse. And apparently he's made of glass too. Out for 6 weeks after failing miserably trying to bin someone.  ::)
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Obanred on August 06, 2019, 09:01:46 AM
IF and its a big IF he goes to Timbo victimland , First game we play them, stick Main up front and tell him to go right through him first chance, red card, so what ??  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: donsdaft on August 06, 2019, 09:37:04 AM
Efe Ambrose?


I'm away to lie down.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 06, 2019, 10:25:11 AM
Fucking hell  :rofl:

Ambrose has dodgy moments, granted, but he'd still be a good addition to fill a gap that needs filling, costing only wages. An International defender that has over 50 caps, is relatively quick, pretty physical and reads the game well, I suppose it's easy to read into the errors, but I'd welcome him, and it would seem I am alone in doing so  :rofl:
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: baggy89 on August 06, 2019, 10:58:07 AM
We’re two days away from the epl transfer window closing. Can’t see it being the Tim’s.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 06, 2019, 11:09:34 AM
Ambrose wouldn't be the worst shout IF we didn't already have a central defender that only plays 50% of the time. But we do. Actually Devlin and Ambrose I think would be a pretty effective pairing but chances are when one was fit the other would be on the treatment table and vice versa.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Reidzer 1314 on August 06, 2019, 02:05:37 PM
It just looks at the moment that this move from McKenna and his agent has done nothing more than make them look a bit daft.

The Dons are not backing down and there isn't any teams, that we know of, banging on the door with the cash needed to buy him.

Aberdeen have never said that he isnt going anywhere full stop, they have always said that if their valuation of him is met then he can leave. If McKenna didn't agree with that stance then he shouldn't have signed a new long term deal earlier this year.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Slim on August 06, 2019, 02:13:51 PM
You would have thought he would have put a release clause in the new contract he signed.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 06, 2019, 02:13:57 PM
or signed a deal with a release clause ? wonder if this is same agent that advised him to endorse trump ?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 06, 2019, 05:04:53 PM
You would have thought he would have put a release clause in the new contract he signed.

I'd be amazed if he hadn't. All we know for sure is that if there is a release clause.....it's higher than QPR's second offer (guessing it was £3.25milion). McKenna's new agent whoever he is will definitely know about it if there is. He's trying his luck hoping we would cave in knowing we had an unsettled player on our hands. And obviously if we sold for less than his contracted release clause figure....it might get McKenna a higher signing on fee. Which in turn nets the agent a bigger payment.

Going to be very interesting tomorrow to see if McKenna is on the flight to Croatia. With what has happened, will his head be in the right place to play a vital match? Of course with Taylor definitely out and Devlin doubtful at best.....we may have no option. I'd love to know what the rest of the squad make of what's happened too. Mcinnes supposedly furious.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 06, 2019, 05:18:52 PM
I'd be amazed if he hadn't. All we know for sure is that if there is a release clause.....it's higher than QPR's second offer (guessing it was £3.25milion). McKenna's new agent whoever he is will definitely know about it if there is. He's trying his luck hoping we would cave in knowing we had an unsettled player on our hands. And obviously if we sold for less than his contracted release clause figure....it might get McKenna a higher signing on fee. Which in turn nets the agent a bigger payment.

Going to be very interesting tomorrow to see if McKenna is on the flight to Croatia. With what has happened, will his head be in the right place to play a vital match? Of course with Taylor definitely out and Devlin doubtful at best.....we may have no option. I'd love to know what the rest of the squad make of what's happened too. Mcinnes supposedly furious.

Not exactly reliable, I know, but Sky Sports News have said he'll be with the squad tomorrow, commenting that McInnes has rejected his Request.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Madbadteacher on August 06, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
Good!
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 07, 2019, 08:01:14 AM
reports today suggest he wont be travelling
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: BigAl on August 07, 2019, 11:32:40 AM
reports today suggest he wont be travelling

Not seeing that AD.
Will be astounded if he doesn't
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 07, 2019, 11:38:31 AM
Prepare to be astounded then Big Al..

I've just had a txt saying that QPR have bid £6million

EDIT.....and I see someone on the Hat has heard the same
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Slim on August 07, 2019, 11:49:37 AM
He’s at the airport anyway.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Obanred on August 07, 2019, 11:50:21 AM
Prepare to be astounded then Big Al..

I've just had a txt saying that QPR have bid £6million

EDIT.....and I see someone on the Hat has heard the same

Cheerio Scott.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 07, 2019, 11:52:26 AM
He's just been pictured getting off the bus at the airport

Doesn't look happy
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: BigAl on August 07, 2019, 11:53:01 AM
Prepare to be astounded then Big Al..

I've just had a txt saying that QPR have bid £6million

EDIT.....and I see someone on the Hat has heard the same

Fucking hell.
However if the source is The Hat then pinch of salt required
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Tyrant on August 07, 2019, 11:54:22 AM
Fucking hell.
However if the source is The Hat then pinch of salt required


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Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Slim on August 07, 2019, 11:56:56 AM
This is going to end up with Stewarty Milne chasing the plane down the runway in T5 DON isn’t it?

35 minutes until take off...
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: BigAl on August 07, 2019, 11:57:59 AM
This is going to end up with Stewarty Milne chasing the plane down the runway in T5 DON isn’t it?

35 minutes until take off...

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 07, 2019, 11:58:46 AM
Fucking hell.
However if the source is The Hat then pinch of salt required

The boy on the hat who has heard is the same one that broke the transfer request story.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 07, 2019, 12:42:02 PM
mckenna at airport
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: BigAl on August 07, 2019, 12:57:43 PM
mckenna at airport

Flight must be delayed  ;)
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 07, 2019, 12:59:01 PM
technically he can play tmw and still sign ?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on August 07, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
technically he can play tmw and still sign ?

Is it not a 5pm deadline? I assumed he couldn't sign (for an English club anyway). However, being in Croatia doesn't mean he can't come home - or fly to England - tomorrow. Hopefully we get the loanee across there later today or first thing tomorrow if he signs.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: BigAl on August 07, 2019, 01:55:46 PM
Is it not a 5pm deadline? I assumed he couldn't sign (for an English club anyway). However, being in Croatia doesn't mean he can't come home - or fly to England - tomorrow. Hopefully we get the loanee across there later today or first thing tomorrow if he signs.

As Rico says, the deadline is 5pm tomorrow so I would say the answer to the question as to whether he can play or not, surely is No, but hey, what do I know :dunno:
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 07, 2019, 02:03:07 PM
2 Players got off the flight, bags taken off, so 2 not travelling, apparently McKenna is neither of them, but doesn't sound very healthy, the flight has been, or still is, delayed.

Could very well be May, some suggesting it might even be a late Bid for Big Sammy. Regardless, we could be doing without all of this, such an important game coming up.  :'(

Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: ayrshire_don74 on August 07, 2019, 02:07:52 PM
or it might be just 2 passengers
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 07, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
Time will tell, but consensus was that they were both Players. I am not there, only going on the information of someone that was there.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Obanred on August 07, 2019, 02:27:20 PM
Guy sitting across the desk from me is mates with Stevie May.

He has text him asking whats going on, see if he gets a reply.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Obanred on August 07, 2019, 04:40:09 PM
Never got a reply, so he is either on plane with phone switched off or at McDairmid Pk for medical ??

Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: RicoS321 on August 07, 2019, 05:10:36 PM
This thread is getting good. I think we should have deployed a DT rep down at Dyce for the day.

Could you imagine this was a Tim or a Hun or down South? There'd be a reporter there checking for the team getting on the plane.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 07, 2019, 05:46:44 PM
Sky Sports saying that Forest have bid £7million

Isn't there something about transfer windows where if terms have been agreed for a transfer but paperwork hasn't quite been concluded that so long as the relevant FA's have been notified that the transfer is going through you can continue the process for a short time (hours not days) beyond the time that the window has closed?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 07, 2019, 05:55:28 PM
Never got a reply, so he is either on plane with phone switched off or at McDairmid Pk for medical ??

I think McInnes having done the press conference now, means it was bollocks, or as Ayrshire-Don says, it could have been supporters, he didn't mention anything about Players.

EDIT - Just seen this from BBC.

Despite being expected to fly out with the team, Aberdeen chief executive Duncan Fraser and director of football operations Steven Gunn failed to travel.

Don't they normally deal with transfer's? Could be trying to work out a way to get Vyner in on time?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: BigAl on August 07, 2019, 06:51:40 PM
Sky Sports saying that Forest have bid £7million

Isn't there something about transfer windows where if terms have been agreed for a transfer but paperwork hasn't quite been concluded that so long as the relevant FA's have been notified that the transfer is going through you can continue the process for a short time (hours not days) beyond the time that the window has closed?

In the case of England tomorrow provided it is notified by 5pm you then have until 7pm to submit completed paperwork ( only heard this earlier today).
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: BigAl on August 07, 2019, 06:53:11 PM
I think McInnes having done the press conference now, means it was bollocks, or as Ayrshire-Don says, it could have been supporters, he didn't mention anything about Players.

EDIT - Just seen this from BBC.

Despite being expected to fly out with the team, Aberdeen chief executive Duncan Fraser and director of football operations Steven Gunn failed to travel.

Don't they normally deal with transfer's? Could be trying to work out a way to get Vyner in on time?

Not wishing to be overly negative but it could also be to deal with offers received and transfers out
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Elgindon on August 07, 2019, 06:56:54 PM

 Much as I like McKenna,If forest have bid £7m,I would bite your hand off.timing couldnt be worse like,but...
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 07, 2019, 07:20:21 PM
Think we'd be mental to reject it, he clearly wants out now and 7 Million is not to be sniffed at, and hopefully some sort of percentage added for his next transfer?

Al, I think you are probably more correct leaning on the transfer out side of it, especially given the timing of Forest's alleged bid, makes sense, they definitely got off the Plane, it was delayed due to it. Might be a bit of both actually, Vyner in, McKenna out. He'd need to be signed by 11pm tonight to be eligible for next weeks return fixture I think.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 07, 2019, 07:54:18 PM
Strange Sky have ditched the banner about the alleged Forest bid. Have they fucked up?
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: A llad insane on August 07, 2019, 08:03:15 PM
Much as I like McKenna,If forest have bid £7m,I would bite your hand off.timing couldnt be worse like,but...


This  ^^^.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: A llad insane on August 07, 2019, 08:08:28 PM
Forest signed a defender from Arsenal today, be surprised if they are after another.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Ten Caat on August 07, 2019, 09:08:31 PM
Forest signed a defender from Arsenal today, be surprised if they are after another.

He's a right back
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: bearsdenred on August 10, 2019, 07:59:02 PM
Hope the club REFUSE any offer from celtic.

why at this time of year would we make ourselves weaker again just to sell to celtic.

Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: SeeBass on August 20, 2019, 09:06:51 PM
I see Rory McArdle has a double for Scunthorpe United tonight with half an hour to go plus I'm sure he got their goal last Saturday too!!! 
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: tlg1903 on August 21, 2019, 11:10:54 AM
I still have ptsd from Mcardle playing right back
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: Stewart on August 21, 2019, 11:36:03 AM
I still have ptsd from Mcardle playing right back

At least he was an improvement on Ifil at right back.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: SeeBass on August 21, 2019, 03:00:11 PM
Just thought if McKenna was to leave before transfer window shut and Devlin plus Taylor injury prone could McArdle be a stop gap??
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on August 21, 2019, 04:26:26 PM
Just thought if McKenna was to leave before transfer window shut and Devlin plus Taylor injury prone could McArdle be a stop gap??

No. But judging by the replies to my Efe Ambrose and Jack Hendry suggestions, I am not the best judge, SeeBass.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: TheDeeDon on August 21, 2019, 07:38:53 PM
Although he was no right back, McArdle wasn't a bad centre half, would he be a step up from anyone we currently have?  I would say yes, but fine margins and all that.

Best not sign any players from days gone by as never usually works out.
Title: Re: Scott McKenna
Post by: manc_don on August 21, 2019, 08:15:44 PM
Saw McCardle play for Bradford a couple of times against Millwall. He was a good solid CB, but that was 4 years ago now.