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Title: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on December 29, 2010, 05:35:48 PM
Utterly disposable, Brian Laws and Darren Ferguson binned today.

16 out of 90 odd clubs binned their manager this season! McGhee has a wikipedia record, got to be in with a shout to get sacked too?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 29, 2010, 05:52:41 PM
Didn't know Darren Ferguson was done for! Though PNE's form has been woeful this season. Brian Laws was the wrong appointment in the first place imho.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on December 29, 2010, 06:08:27 PM
Didn't know Darren Ferguson was done for! Though PNE's form has been woeful this season. Brian Laws was the wrong appointment in the first place imho.

I agree and I think Ferguson took on the wrong gig there too. Maybe get chance of Davidson/Nicholson now?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on December 29, 2010, 06:20:10 PM
I agree and I think Ferguson took on the wrong gig there too. Maybe get chance of Davidson/Nicholson now?

Who?

Julius?

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/thickofit/images/thick_char2_nicholson.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on December 29, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Didn't know Darren Ferguson was done for! Though PNE's form has been woeful this season. Brian Laws was the wrong appointment in the first place imho.

Laws was a weak as fuck appointment, doomed to failure from the off
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on December 29, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
Who?

Julius?

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/thickofit/images/thick_char2_nicholson.jpg)

No, Emma.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgow sheep on December 29, 2010, 09:31:02 PM
Laws was a weak as fuck appointment, doomed to failure from the off

Two teams relegated in one season was it not?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stuartini on December 29, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
Laws was a weak as fuck appointment, doomed to failure from the off

Wasn't so much weak as stupid. They used OPTA stats and a management consultant firm to find out who provided 'best value per signing' or some pish. Outstandingly stupid, especially since they managed to identify Owen Coyle previously, and it was hardly secret Coyle was offski.

The merry-go-round will keep on turning
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on December 29, 2010, 09:41:56 PM
Roy Hodgson's coat might be on a shoogly peg.  The scousers have been chanting for Dalglish tonight!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on December 29, 2010, 09:43:55 PM
Roy Hodgson's coat might be on a shoogly peg.  The scousers have been chanting for Dalglish tonight!

Not John Barnes?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: ally s on December 30, 2010, 10:29:39 AM
Roy Hodgson's coat might be on a shoogly peg.  The scousers have been chanting for Dalglish tonight!

Doesn't matter who come in (assuming Hodgson gets the dunt). The new owners need to invest some serious dough in that team.

Konchesky, Lucas, Ngog etc should be nowhere near a Liverpool shirt.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on December 30, 2010, 11:34:07 AM
Doesn't matter who come in (assuming Hodgson gets the dunt). The new owners need to invest some serious dough in that team.

Konchesky, Lucas, Ngog etc should be nowhere near a Liverpool shirt.

You've not been watching a lot of Liverpool games of late then?

I can only presume you're jumping on the Sky Sports 'hate Lucas' bandwagon because Lucas has been nothing short of well in honesty Liverpool's best player for a while now. I can't remember the last mistake he made that cost Liverpool. Averages 92% success rate when passing. Breaks up the play constantly.

The other 2 I'll agree with you on, but Lucas you don't know what you're talking about.

If Roy survives this then I'll be amazed. I was hoping I could wake up this morning and he'd be gone!!!!!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: ally s on December 30, 2010, 11:47:23 AM
You've not been watching a lot of Liverpool games of late then?

I can only presume you're jumping on the Sky Sports 'hate Lucas' bandwagon because Lucas has been nothing short of well in honesty Liverpool's best player for a while now. I can't remember the last mistake he made that cost Liverpool. Averages 92% success rate when passing. Breaks up the play constantly.

The other 2 I'll agree with you on, but Lucas you don't know what you're talking about.

If Roy survives this then I'll be amazed. I was hoping I could wake up this morning and he'd be gone!!!!!

Saw Lucas in the flesh 5 times last season and he was terrible on each occasion.  Obviously saw the majority of the live games too and have to say I wasn't impressed at all.

As for this season, I haven't seem much of LFC/Lucas, no. I'll take your word that he's improved greatly.

Also, you presume wrongly.  I don't jump on any "bandwagon".

The owners need to make a decision very soon whether to back Hodgson with money or give him the dunt. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on December 30, 2010, 12:20:55 PM
Saw Lucas in the flesh 5 times last season and he was terrible on each occasion.  Obviously saw the majority of the live games too and have to say I wasn't impressed at all.

As for this season, I haven't seem much of LFC/Lucas, no. I'll take your word that he's improved greatly.

Also, you presume wrongly.  I don't jump on any "bandwagon".

The owners need to make a decision very soon whether to back Hodgson with money or give him the dunt.

This season Lucas has been awesome. You have to remember he was one of the best up and coming ATTACKING midfielders in Brazil, but when he was signed he was made to develop into a defensive midfielder and he's finally found his feet in that position and has been playing VERY well in that position and he is one of the only players who gets pass marks this season.

I'll let you off then regarding bandwagon jumping, and apologise. I'm just fed up with people saying 'Lucas is shite' just simply because others say it when they clearly don't watch much of him of late because he's been brilliant. The Chelsea game was the high point for him, he never put a foot wrong and was my MOTM that day (along with a few other games where he's been shit hot).

I think Roy's time is coming to an end. He has made a MASSIVE gap between fans and himself, and it's not healthy - he hit a new low when blaming fans for last night, he said he's never been given time - however I've NEVER EVER saw fans react like the did last night to a manager, it's never been that bad so he needs to take responsibility himself. I hope it'll be all over soon, but do I want Rafa back? NO!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on December 30, 2010, 12:34:17 PM
Sorry Robo but I agree with Ally. Although I would concede that Lucas has been less shite this season but that's maybe down to even worse signings such as Konchesky coming in.

I read a disturbing rumour yesterday that Liverpool were "setn to reward" N'gog with a new long term contract. :(
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on December 30, 2010, 12:36:10 PM
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5743/hodgson.jpg) (http://img826.imageshack.us/i/hodgson.jpg/)

Hopefully you can read this article as his excuses are brilliant. The from Halmstads to Malmo to Swiss national team one was sensational.

The guy is a moron. I lost patience LONG AGO! He's well out of his depth
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on December 30, 2010, 12:39:24 PM
Sorry Robo but I agree with Ally. Although I would concede that Lucas has been less shite this season but that's maybe down to even worse signings such as Konchesky coming in.

I read a disturbing rumour yesterday that Liverpool were "setn to reward" N'gog with a new long term contract. :(

Then it concerns me that you don't know your football. I've listed his pass success rate, I've listed he was an attacking midfielder who's just been transformed into defensive midfielder and NOW are Liverpool seeing how good he is.

I reference you to the Chelsea game in which he dominated the Chelsea defence. There has also been many other games where Lucas is the one who makes the difference.

I have watched him many times this season and I feel he's finally developing into a good player for Liverpool.

He make one mistake in a game, however it would appear many armchairs will slate him for it (now I'm not saying either of you 2 are armchairs) but yet the 9 other outfield players will make up to 5 mistakes and it'll go un-noticed because their name isn't Lucas.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on December 30, 2010, 01:43:26 PM
I was at said Chelsea game and Lucas didn't do too badly as I recall but a few improved performances doesn't suddenly make him a Liverpool level player. Anyone who thinks otherwise perhaps doesn't "know his football" as well as he likes to think.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on December 30, 2010, 01:46:11 PM
I was at said Chelsea game and Lucas didn't do too badly as I recall but a few improved performances doesn't suddenly make him a Liverpool level player. Anyone who thinks otherwise perhaps doesn't "know his football" as well as he likes to think.

Weirdly the majority of Liverpool fans agree with me after a quick check on RAWK and This Is Anfield......

No further questions your honour.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on December 30, 2010, 01:53:59 PM
Weirdly the majority of Liverpool fans agree with me after a quick check on RAWK and This Is Anfield......

No further questions your honour.

And most of them wanted to keep Rafa...

I actually think Lucas is a decent player, attempting to prove it by saying a load of folk on an internet forum agree maybe isn't the best back up in the world, however.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: 14Fosters on December 30, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
Liverpool fans I have spoken to, or seen on other forums seem to have Kyrgiakos as your most consistent performer this year.  Pretty much sums up the state of Liverpool at the current time...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on December 30, 2010, 01:59:57 PM
And most of them wanted to keep Rafa...

I actually think Lucas is a decent player, attempting to prove it by saying a load of folk on an internet forum agree maybe isn't the best back up in the world, however.

On RAWK there is a massive thread on Lucas, and about 90% of people share the same view as myself. Also Liverpool fans I've spoken to around voice the same opinions as myself.

If not a huge 100 page-ish thread on Lucas, where else you recommend going for an opinion? I can't exactly say 'aye well this guy I was speaking to' because there isn't evidence I've actually spoken to that person.

I can only go on stats and what is written on RAWK, I'd say they are valid enough.

Most wanted to keep Rafa AT THE TIME because there was a bigger picture in the matter, his time has come and gone though - and Roy is taking us further down to verging on (well it is after yesterday) laughing stock.

Fosters - Yeah the Greek has been very consistent for Liverpool and it's come as a shock even to myself.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on December 30, 2010, 02:02:48 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/dec/30/five-things-learned-premier-league

Are the media finally beginning to see the light. Written by a West Ham fan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i7EBywdHdY

^^^ I laughed at that youtube until they mentioned Martin O'Neill.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on December 30, 2010, 02:20:00 PM
On RAWK there is a massive thread on Lucas, and about 90% of people share the same view as myself. Also Liverpool fans I've spoken to around voice the same opinions as myself.

If not a huge 100 page-ish thread on Lucas, where else you recommend going for an opinion? I can't exactly say 'aye well this guy I was speaking to' because there isn't evidence I've actually spoken to that person.

I can only go on stats and what is written on RAWK, I'd say they are valid enough.

Most wanted to keep Rafa AT THE TIME because there was a bigger picture in the matter, his time has come and gone though - and Roy is taking us further down to verging on (well it is after yesterday) laughing stock.

Fosters - Yeah the Greek has been very consistent for Liverpool and it's come as a shock even to myself.

And even if you have spoken to said person, why should their opinion hold sway over anyone's opinion on here, other than you happen to agree with it? I do see your point.
But there have been multiple pages of stuff on here I do not agree with, or on Mad or on the Hat, doesn't mean it's right, does it? Your opinion is still just your opinion, no matter how many hold the same view.

What was the bigger picture with Rafa then - just the Hicks and Gillett stuff?

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on December 30, 2010, 02:35:35 PM
And even if you have spoken to said person, why should their opinion hold sway over anyone's opinion on here, other than you happen to agree with it? I do see your point.
But there have been multiple pages of stuff on here I do not agree with, or on Mad or on the Hat, doesn't mean it's right, does it? Your opinion is still just your opinion, no matter how many hold the same view.

What was the bigger picture with Rafa then - just the Hicks and Gillett stuff?

Yeah fair play.

The bigger picture was that yeah. I wanted Rafa to go, I was one of those - however at the time it happened it was wrong decision to make because Roy Hodgson was touted by the media for him to get the job not long before Rafa was sacked - and that's what happened, and look what's happening now? The media in theory got Roy the job.

At the time Rafa was holding the cards to get rid of the owners and he was with the fans in the fight, he knew they were being outed and it was only a matter of time. He should have been given another season under new owners, if it didn't work - then it was time for him to go. I doubt Rafa would ever have let Liverpool slip to 19th place in the league and playing as badly as they are now, no way.

The way it was handled was wrong and the fact Roy was being touted before Rafa was out scared me and I did not at the time he was sacked want him to be sacked (does that make sense). Months before I did want him to go, when managers of a good calibre would have been available (I wanted Pellegrini).

It was the timing that was wrong, and look at the state of them now? It's truly awful, but hey it's all Rafa's fault according to the media. It's the fact Rafa changed his team around week in week out (despite Fergie and other managers changing their teams more than Rafa ever did - I think Fergie is at 154 changing his team around week after week). According to the media it's all the fault of Rafa just simply because Roy is the media darling and it's sickening.

All said and done, right now I don't want Rafa back but he's better than Woy fucking Hodgson!!!

That make sense, rather tired?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on December 30, 2010, 03:01:35 PM
Yeah fair play.

The bigger picture was that yeah. I wanted Rafa to go, I was one of those - however at the time it happened it was wrong decision to make because Roy Hodgson was touted by the media for him to get the job not long before Rafa was sacked - and that's what happened, and look what's happening now? The media in theory got Roy the job.

At the time Rafa was holding the cards to get rid of the owners and he was with the fans in the fight, he knew they were being outed and it was only a matter of time. He should have been given another season under new owners, if it didn't work - then it was time for him to go. I doubt Rafa would ever have let Liverpool slip to 19th place in the league and playing as badly as they are now, no way.

The way it was handled was wrong and the fact Roy was being touted before Rafa was out scared me and I did not at the time he was sacked want him to be sacked (does that make sense). Months before I did want him to go, when managers of a good calibre would have been available (I wanted Pellegrini).

It was the timing that was wrong, and look at the state of them now? It's truly awful, but hey it's all Rafa's fault according to the media. It's the fact Rafa changed his team around week in week out (despite Fergie and other managers changing their teams more than Rafa ever did - I think Fergie is at 154 changing his team around week after week). According to the media it's all the fault of Rafa just simply because Roy is the media darling and it's sickening.

All said and done, right now I don't want Rafa back but he's better than Woy fucking Hodgson!!!

That make sense, rather tired?

Aye,  I can see your point.  Personally speaking, I don't like the way Benitez manages. He's too much into the Pro-zone stuff and all that. No doubt these things are handy tools for coaches these days but part of management and all football has to be about gut feeling - whether that's a midfielder just knowing when to make a run into the box or a manager leaving his star player on even though he's flagging.

Two seasons ago, the game at Reading (I think) which was 0-0 and he took off Gerrard with 20 mins to go or something like that because his Pro-Zone stats were down... that's an appalling decision (and there were many like them in that run in) and said to me that he doesn't trust his own judgement of the game. Gerrard is far and away Liverpool's best and most consistent top level performer, if you need a goal you keep him on the park.  Simple as that.

Then, when Liverpool had effectively chucked it away, he let them play in a less rigid way and they showed what a good team they could be - not many teams beat Fergie's United 4-1 at Old Trafford. I think if i were a Liverpool fan, I'd have been wanting him out there and then, he blew the league title for you and the season after pretty much showed in my eyes the effect of it - similar to Aberdeen in 91/92 after the last day defeat to the huns in 1991.

He can't moan about not getting money to spend, he spent a shit load of cash, and net spending doesn't make a blind bit of difference here; for the amount he spent alone he should have built a far better squad.

And you know yourself why Fergie doesn't get stick for tinkering with his team; they generally win, and he has the trophies to prove it. The important bit is how it's changed i.e. very rare for the back four to change weekly etc.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: s1dnk on December 31, 2010, 02:24:09 PM
Hodgson now apologises to the Liverpool fans, too little too late although he should be more worried about the players, if the players perform then the fans will have nothing to moan about.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on January 01, 2011, 04:53:16 PM
George burley gone from palace today
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 01, 2011, 04:59:32 PM
George burley gone from palace today

Aye saw that, rogered 3 scud today.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Millertime on January 02, 2011, 02:23:25 AM
sacked by palace

lol
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: caledonia on January 02, 2011, 03:37:33 AM
Job for Chris Hughton maybe
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 03, 2011, 09:58:57 AM
Job for Chris Hughton maybe

Been suggested in BBC gossip this morning.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: nellie_boy on January 04, 2011, 02:03:19 PM
Another had his legged chopped apparently

Pos    Team                              P    Pts
1    Brighton and Hove Albion    22    43
2    Southampton                    22    37
3    Bournemouth                    22    36
4    Huddersfield Town            23    36
5    Charlton Athletic            22    34
6    Sheffield Wednesday            22    33

Parkinson gone - 1 win in 8 but still in play-offs spot only 3 points from automatic promotion

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11719_6634497,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11719_6634497,00.html)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on January 04, 2011, 03:43:57 PM
Hutchings sacked from Walsall as well.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on January 04, 2011, 06:26:41 PM
Paul Simpson gone from Stockport
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on January 05, 2011, 05:48:30 PM
Stewart Kean will be the next to be punted in the Premiership I reckon.

Shooglys in no particular order:

Stewart Kean (a nobody)
Carlo Ancellotti
Roy Hodgson
Avram Grant (although bought himself time and doing well).
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 05, 2011, 06:12:38 PM
Stewart Kean will be the next to be punted in the Premiership I reckon.

Shooglys in no particular order:

Stewart Kean (a nobody)
Carlo Ancellotti
Roy Hodgson
Avram Grant (although bought himself time and doing well).

According to this week's Guardian podcast, replacement managers for Hodgson have been sounded out about a move in the summer, but they seem to think it's unlikely any move will be before then.

Also saw the other day that the FA met with the Gambling Commission (think that's what they're called) in a bid to end the "Next Manager to Leave His Post" and "The Next Manager of X Club" markets.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on January 05, 2011, 07:02:54 PM
According to this week's Guardian podcast, replacement managers for Hodgson have been sounded out about a move in the summer, but they seem to think it's unlikely any move will be before then.

Also saw the other day that the FA met with the Gambling Commission (think that's what they're called) in a bid to end the "Next Manager to Leave His Post" and "The Next Manager of X Club" markets.


To be fair, I'll bet a cunt like Mike Ashley would lump a fair sum on his own manager being the next to be punted at decent odds.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on January 05, 2011, 08:18:31 PM
Apparently the chicken farmers at Blackburn want to offer Kean a "long term deal", or so it said on BBC rumours  ???
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 05, 2011, 08:35:50 PM
To be fair, I'll bet a cunt like Mike Ashley would lump a fair sum on his own manager being the next to be punted at decent odds.

They claimed it was because the markets were undermining to the managers involved.

But I'd say the truth is as you say... easy as fuck to exploit for your own good.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 05, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
Stewart Kean will be the next to be punted in the Premiership I reckon.

Shooglys in no particular order:

Stewart Kean (a nobody)
Carlo Ancellotti
Roy Hodgson
Avram Grant (although bought himself time and doing well).

I would think Hodgson will be away long before Kean!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: minijc on January 05, 2011, 09:32:38 PM
Carlo Ancellotti
Roy Hodgson
Avram Grant
Houllier

Current results, doesn't look good for any of those guys.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 05, 2011, 09:46:26 PM
Carlo Ancellotti
Roy Hodgson
Avram Grant
Houllier

Current results, doesn't look good for any of those guys.

Definitely, I'd add McLeish to that too. Still only really involved in a relegation battle and yet another club with new foreign owners.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on January 05, 2011, 09:57:03 PM
It has to be Hodgson first. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: coopy100 on January 05, 2011, 10:08:58 PM
I reckon it could be hodgson, ancelloti and jabba the hutt all gone in the morning.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stuartini on January 05, 2011, 10:34:47 PM
Surely Martin O'Neil and his magic trampoline will have rolled up somewhere by the weekend. And Abramovich will be sharpening his sickle as we speak.....
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: granite sheep on January 05, 2011, 11:19:51 PM
I reckon it could be hodgson, ancelloti and jabba the hutt all gone in the morning.
Defo. To be honest, hopefully Woy got his jotters right after tonight's performance, saw the game in Monkeys, liverpool were absolutely pish, the players looked uninterested, and there was a complete lack of tactics. Unless of course defending too deep, running around like headless chickens, and hoofing it up the right wing only to lose the ball again and again counts as tactics, of course.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on January 06, 2011, 09:55:50 AM
rumour is hodgson's out today. shame because he's a good guy. after watching the goals from last night i can't tell, is reina trying to get him sacked or is he just shite?

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/liverpool-phones-dignitas-201101063403/
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 06, 2011, 02:38:15 PM
O'Neill for Liverpool.

Jim Gannon got the Port Vale job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 06, 2011, 03:43:46 PM
Jesus Christ. Shows how much McGhee's stock must have decreased losing out on a job to that mercenary.

The guy who made a cunt of the decent job McGhee had made at Motherwell. Then leaves and goes to Peterborough and made a cunt of it there.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 06, 2011, 03:49:45 PM
Jesus Christ. Shows how much McGhee's stock must have decreased losing out on a job to that mercenary.

The guy who made a cunt of the decent job McGhee had made at Motherwell. Then leaves and goes to Peterborough and made a cunt of it there.

Gannon has a decent record at that level in England, check wikileaks.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on January 06, 2011, 04:32:42 PM
Phil Brown, of applying for the Aberdeen job fame, gets the Preston job.

Almost certainly better suited to that job I would imagine.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on January 06, 2011, 07:56:52 PM
I'm led to believe Roy has been sacked but owners will be in Liverpool tomorrow to get the serverance package organised (so is reported anyways).

However a manager will not be in place for Sunday, everyone touting Kenny, well this can't happen as he is in Dubai until Tuesday.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 06, 2011, 08:10:29 PM
Appointing Dalglish would be a poor, fan appeasing appointment.

I hope they appoint Benitez, just in the hope he loses the plot just one more time wi SAF.

If they have any sense they will go for O'Neill but will probably not. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Roberto on January 06, 2011, 08:11:37 PM
Appointing Dalglish would be a poor, fan appeasing appointment.

I hope they appoint Benitez, just in the hope he loses the plot just one more time wi SAF.

If they have any sense they will go for O'Neill but will probably not.


OH FUCK NO!!!!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 06, 2011, 08:19:03 PM
OH FUCK NO!!!!

Because he's been shit everywhere he's been?

He's improved every team he's been at.

Liverpool could probably do with that.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 06, 2011, 09:00:02 PM
Appointing Dalglish would be a poor, fan appeasing appointment.

I hope they appoint Benitez, just in the hope he loses the plot just one more time wi SAF.

If they have any sense they will go for O'Neill but will probably not.

I'm with you on all three points  :thumbsup:

Hope they don't go for O'Neill as they might become competitive again.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on January 06, 2011, 09:52:46 PM
Is this MMcG or JC's destiny?



















Naw, just kidding, realistically MO'N must be in with a good shout?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 06, 2011, 09:56:10 PM
Martin Jol or Jurgen Klopp must be in with a shout I reckon.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on January 06, 2011, 09:57:58 PM
Woy to replace Avram Grant at W Ham
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 06, 2011, 10:24:21 PM
Quote

Roy Hodgson Roy Hodgson is facing pressure from all sides as he struggles to stay in charge at Anfield. Photograph: Press Association Images

Liverpool's new owners have been warned that even the sacking of Roy Hodgson might not be enough to stave off an exodus of their key players, including Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina. Although the manager's departure appears inevitable, sources close to the two Spanish players say that, although they would not leave during the winter transfer window, frustration at the club's inertia means they will go in the summer if they are not convinced by the new manager and handed reassurances of major investment.

The choice currently before Liverpool's owners, John W Henry and Tom Werner, is a huge one which will bring with it significant consequences. For some senior players sacking Hodgson is a step in the right direction. But while Hodgson continuing at the club would guarantee summer departures, his exit does not necessarily mean that Liverpool will be able to keep hold of their most important assets. With Liverpool immersed in a sale process last summer moves were blocked for Steven Gerrard, Torres and Reina; this year, it will be harder to prevent their departure. Liverpool quoted prices so prohibitive as to be a "not for sale" sign. At the same time reassurances were made regarding ambitions. Hopes had been pinned on new ownership and massive investment. As yet only half of that proposition has come to pass.

The arrival of a recognised, high-achieving coach will be vital if they are not to push for a transfer. Didier Deschamps, who was interviewed for the job last summer and remains a favoured candidate, appeared to rule himself out yesterday. The Marseille coach said: "When I talk about being the coach of Marseille in the new stadium, I mean it. It is an idea that pleases me. Now, 2014 is a very long way away in my profession. But I have said people should understand I am not a tramp. I proved it last year. I could have left."

Key Anfield squad members have been dismayed by the lack of activity from the new owners since they took over in mid?October. The lack of activity in this transfer window only increases that impression, with the club currently considering an offer for the Tottenham defender Vedran Corluka. Players feel that promises have been broken before and will not endure another season of underachievement and uncertainty.

Possible destinations are already being studied in case they should be required, but no decisions have been taken. Those clubs that tabled bids for Gerrard, Torres, Reina and Dirk Kuyt last summer are not necessarily expected to return 12 months on. The players are not expected to consider a move to Manchester United.

Following Liverpool's 3-1 defeat against Blackburn Hodgson refused to discuss a possible sacking, saying: "I am not prepared to talk about my future. At this moment I am depressed enough with the performance and the result. I am not here to talk about that. I have no comments to make and I don't intend to answer any questions on the subject." The club's director of communications then brought the press conference to a close and there was no indication from the owners today that they intend to change manager before Sunday's FA Cup third-round tie at Manchester United.

But Hodgson's days at Anfield are numbered. Fans have railed against him – he was met with graffiti at the club's training ground yesterday – and pressure builds to replace him. Progress is stalled by the absence of a chief executive at Anfield and the fact that the New England Sports Ventures group that owns the club continues to be based in the United States.

There has also been little opportunity over the Christmas period properly to discuss the club's next move. Kenny Dalglish, who currently occupies an ambassadorial role, made it clear that he wanted the manager's job in the summer before the former regime employed Hodgson – and he is still keen to take charge. There is, however, a reluctance to make a definitive decision at this stage, which only increases the uncertainty. With the situation being monitored closely by key players, it is a decision that must be made carefully.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/06/sacking-roy-hodgson-spanish-liverpool
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: approx.purified on January 07, 2011, 01:06:20 AM
Daily Mail reporting Roy Keane has been sacked now - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1344794/Roy-Keane-sacked-Ipswich-Tractor-Boys-dismiss-boss-promotion-promise-falls-short.html?ito=feeds-newsxml (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1344794/Roy-Keane-sacked-Ipswich-Tractor-Boys-dismiss-boss-promotion-promise-falls-short.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 07, 2011, 11:09:52 AM
Daily Mail reporting Roy Keane has been sacked now - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1344794/Roy-Keane-sacked-Ipswich-Tractor-Boys-dismiss-boss-promotion-promise-falls-short.html?ito=feeds-newsxml (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1344794/Roy-Keane-sacked-Ipswich-Tractor-Boys-dismiss-boss-promotion-promise-falls-short.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)

Confirmed. Another one down.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 08, 2011, 11:18:43 AM
Woy's gone from the bin dippers, by "mutual consent". :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 08, 2011, 11:26:52 AM
Apprently Kenny has been appointed :D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 08, 2011, 11:28:53 AM
Apprently Kenny has been appointed :D

McDowall?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 08, 2011, 11:32:56 AM
(http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/10/1084/6FHV000Z/posters/kenny.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 08, 2011, 11:37:07 AM
(http://mantoos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/kenny-easterday.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: approx.purified on January 08, 2011, 11:59:30 AM
I really don't understand why the Liverpool fans were so desperate for Dalglish.  This just has epic fail written all over it.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 08, 2011, 12:02:15 PM
Hopefully he brings in John Barnes  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 08, 2011, 12:02:27 PM
I really don't understand why the Liverpool fans were so desperate for Dalglish.  This just has epic fail written all over it.

Tend to agree but in the short term might coax a performance or 2 out that mob.

Just heard someone on 5live say that Liverpool probably aren't really under-achieving by much, that squad is pretty much where it should be in the EPL. I would agree with that too. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 08, 2011, 12:03:38 PM
Hopefully he brings in John Barnes  :thumbsup:

Press conference in Bairds Bar. Sign Scheidt. It's all good.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 08, 2011, 12:08:14 PM
bet he starts with a win tomorrow  :hammer:

They're (rightly) ripping into the players on Soccer Saturday just now.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 08, 2011, 12:10:07 PM
bet he starts with a win tomorrow  :hammer:

They're (rightly) ripping into the players on Soccer Saturday just now.

You can just see that coming eh?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: coopy100 on January 08, 2011, 12:10:34 PM
Just heard someone on 5live say that Liverpool probably aren't really under-achieving by much, that squad is pretty much where it should be in the EPL. I would agree with that too.
I agree with this as well. they have three good players. One of whom has had 98 games in a quest to return to fitness, the other has been injured quite a lot and the other is a goalkeeper. As a squad it is pretty weak and with the emergence of spurs and Man city as good teams it was obvious Liverpool were going to fall away without some serious investment. Which I don't think they will recieve from the new owners either.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 08, 2011, 12:14:00 PM
You can just see that coming eh?

Totally, and the momentum for Kenny to be put in charge on a permanent basis will gather.

It would probably do Liverpool and Dalglish more good however if they get an absolute pumping, in a perverse way (much the same as Brown and Knox being at Tynie for our pummelling).
Can't see Dalglish standing for some of the dingles in that squad, severe drop off in quality from his last time at Anfield.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 08, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
Totally, and the momentum for Kenny to be put in charge on a permanent basis will gather.

It would probably do Liverpool and Dalglish more good however if they get an absolute pumping, in a perverse way (much the same as Brown and Knox being at Tynie for our pummelling).
Can't see Dalglish standing for some of the dingles in that squad, severe drop off in quality from his last time at Anfield.

I can't see them losing as it goes, you'd have to think him just appearing in the dressing room would have an instant effect but winning with a new manager "legend" bounce probably only tells them one thing, they've a squad of slackers.

They need investment and a quick bounce will give the owners the chance to dodge that, a pumping, as you say, may well serve them better in the long run.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 08, 2011, 12:47:14 PM
Surprised Kenny is putting his neck on the block like this.  It could end horribly for him.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on January 08, 2011, 12:59:34 PM
Surprised Kenny is putting his neck on the block like this.  It could end horribly for him.

Here's hoping. I really dislike LFC, for no good reason.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 08, 2011, 01:06:55 PM
Here's hoping. I really dislike LFC, for no good reason.

That's a good enough reason in itself :D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on January 08, 2011, 03:29:22 PM
Surprised Kenny is putting his neck on the block like this.  It could end horribly for him.

1 word:- EGO
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 08, 2011, 05:12:50 PM
Quote
The Liverpool  defender Glen Johnson has launched an outspoken attack on Paul Merson after the former Arsenal midfielder criticised his attitude this season.

Merson, a pundit on Sky Sports' Soccer Saturday programme, was discussing the departure of Liverpool's manager Roy Hodgson when he called Johnson's performances into question. The right-back, who trained with the rest of the squad at Melwood this morning ahead of tomorrow's FA Cup third-round tie which will see the return of Kenny Dalglish as temporary manager, was obviously watching the programme. And he chose to respond via his Twitter page.

"Comments from alcoholic drug abusers are not really gonna upset me and who is Paul Merson to judge players, he was average at the best of times," Johnson wrote. "The only reason he's on that show is coz he gambled all his money away. The clown!"

A number of people complained that Johnson had brought up Merson's former drug problems and the comments were soon deleted.

Bit harsh to single out Merson as Le Tissier also ripped Johnson as did Stelling.  Still, if you're going to give it out etc...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 08, 2011, 05:15:36 PM
Bit harsh to single out Merson as Le Tissier also ripped Johnson as did Stelling.  Still, if you're going to give it out etc...
Ha ha ha wow. Give a football to Paul Merson then give one to Johnson and see which one had the ability. To a higher extent Le Tissier as well.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 08, 2011, 05:26:41 PM
Ha ha ha wow. Give a football to Paul Merson then give one to Johnson and see which one had the ability. To a higher extent Le Tissier as well.

I'm not sure I'd trust him to out-do Stelling either to be honest...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 08, 2011, 05:27:48 PM
I'm not sure I'd trust him to out-do Stelling either to be honest...
Ha ha.

To be fair the boy is maybe not that thick. Stelling is seen as a bit of a legend.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on January 08, 2011, 05:36:49 PM
I'm not sure I'd trust him to out-do Stelling either to be honest...

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tsr on January 08, 2011, 06:39:30 PM
Bit harsh to single out Merson as Le Tissier also ripped Johnson as did Stelling.  Still, if you're going to give it out etc...
To be fair, Merson is right, Johnson's performances have been crap and Merson would rip Johnson to shreds!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 08, 2011, 07:04:24 PM
To be fair, Merson is right, Johnson's performances have been crap and Merson would rip Johnson to shreds!

I wasn't saying Merson wasn't right. Johnson is fucking ding.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 08, 2011, 07:06:29 PM
I wasn't saying Merson wasn't right. Johnson is fucking ding.
Terrible footballer. I remember properly laughing when I heard how much they'd paid for him.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on January 08, 2011, 07:37:23 PM
Terrible footballer. I remember properly laughing when I heard how much they'd paid for him.

yip. Also it kind of backs up the point that his attitude is bad that he comes out and says shit like that instead of getting on with the job in any kind of dignified way. Seems to believe he's world class when I'm not even sure he's EPL class.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 08, 2011, 07:43:05 PM
yip. Also it kind of backs up the point that his attitude is bad that he comes out and says shit like that instead of getting on with the job in any kind of dignified way. Seems to believe he's world class when I'm not even sure he's EPL class.
He looked half decent for Portsmouth as he was allowed to attack, same at West Ham. At Chelsea, Liverpool and with England when he has to have a bit of defensive discipline he badly falters. He was awful for one of Blackburns goals the other night where he was beaten on the by line.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 08, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
Merson will be laughing his cock off at Johnson's reaction!

Johnson really has no fucking clue just how fucking ganting he is.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: King Street Loon on January 09, 2011, 12:16:33 AM
Liverpool are a joke and the fans are off their collective rockers salivating over Dalgleish taking over in the interim.

Will be fun watching him struggle to get improved results out of that bunch.

If Dalgleish had any sense he'd stick to playing Golf
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on January 09, 2011, 12:40:27 AM
^^ +1

Although he's certainly a legendary figure at Liverpool, the support is putting their blind faith in him based on nothing more than that. It's like Shearer at Newcastle but not quite as serious. Dalglish has managed of course, but not for nearly 20 (?) years.

Kinda want him to make a complete cunt of it to see who the Kop will chant for next.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 09, 2011, 12:42:56 AM
Liverpool are a joke and the fans are off their collective rockers salivating over Dalgleish taking over in the interim.

Will be fun watching him struggle to get improved results out of that bunch.

If Dalgleish had any sense he'd stick to playing Golf

I think it's possible Dalglish could coax a performance or 2 out of that lot but not much more, they are where they should be.

I'd be surprised if the majority of fans are really convinced by this appointment however thick we may portray the bindippers.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: 14Fosters on January 09, 2011, 02:11:55 AM
Here's hoping. I really dislike LFC, for no good reason.

I hate them too.  Despise them.  I think it is in part the elitisim of their fans (seems a Scouse thing in general) that they are the best fans going, and how a European night in the Kop is like no other.  I think in part it is the Rafa years, and how I really disliked the guy.  Yet you can still barely say a bad word about him to Liverpool fans without getting your head bitten off.  Then there is Carragher's stupid face.  Finally, they remind me of Celtic far too much.

On that last point, the appointment of Dalglish till the end of the season and the reaction of the Liverpool fans just reminds me of Celtic and the premise they have with the "Celtic-minded."  Despite having no involvement in the day to day running of a club at manager level in the best part of a decade (where he even failed) they think he is the second coming (or should that be third).   Then they go on to say he will instil the true meaning of Liverpool through training, team talks etc, as if that would make a difference to the overpaid "superstars" in their squad.  While Hodgson was failing and probably had to go, I struggle to see how any Liverpool fan can truly be happy with this appointment, plenty are.  Oh well, happy days for me as far as Liverpool are concerned in the short term...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on January 09, 2011, 10:25:45 AM
+1

A succinct summary.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 09, 2011, 12:35:59 PM
If they were even to go down under Kenny they wouldn't blame him. It'd be the 'Hodgson effect'.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 09, 2011, 12:37:07 PM
If they were even to go down under Kenny they wouldn't blame him. It'd be the 'Hodgson effect'.

 :lolabove:

It is a transition for Liverpool now, given they have only Hodgson's dross!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 09, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
:lolabove:

It is a transition for Liverpool now, given they have only Hodgson's dross!
When you sign players like Konchesky and go with N'gog as your second striker you deserve everything you get.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 09, 2011, 12:43:20 PM
When you sign players like Konchesky and go with N'gog as your second striker you deserve everything you get.

Can only pish wi the cock you've got!

Hodgson wasn't given the same kinda money other Liverpool managers have had.

Hodgson has a record, check it on Wikipedia!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 09, 2011, 12:49:01 PM
Can only pish wi the cock you've got!

Hodgson wasn't given the same kinda money other Liverpool managers have had.

Hodgson has a record, check it on Wikipedia!
Ha ha.

Did Fulham spend anymore money on Konchesky's replacement, who is a much better player than him?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 09, 2011, 12:50:55 PM
Who? I thought they were having bother establishing someone at RB?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 09, 2011, 12:54:20 PM
Who? I thought they were having bother establishing someone at RB?
Konchesky's a left back?

Salcido the Mexican guy. Was brilliant whenever I saw him at PSV although he can also play right back and often plays there for Mexico. I checked just now and it seems the got him for £1.6million. Didn't think it was that cheap!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 09, 2011, 12:57:04 PM
If they were even to go down under Kenny they wouldn't blame him. It'd be the 'Hodgson effect'.

My theory why the famous Liverpool fans' patience went out the window with Hodgson:

He's mates with Fergie.

Rafa made an utter cunt of it, but after his rant at Fergie he garnered more and more support even though he was making a bigger and bigger cunt of it on the park.

They've now got a manager who doesn't really have much time for Fergie, they'll be delighted and it'll go back to being the board's fault now.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 09, 2011, 01:00:36 PM
Konchesky's a left back?

Salcido the Mexican guy. Was brilliant whenever I saw him at PSV although he can also play right back and often plays there for Mexico. I checked just now and it seems the got him for £1.6million. Didn't think it was that cheap!

 :hammer: Duh, so he is.

By premiership standards that would be considered a bargain!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 09, 2011, 01:07:31 PM
They've now got a manager who doesn't really have much time for Fergie

I hadn't heard.  What's the story?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 09, 2011, 01:18:45 PM
:hammer: Duh, so he is.

By premiership standards that would be considered a bargain!
Might be because he's thiry but Konchesky is only a year younger. And shite.

Bobby, what's they story with Fergie and Kenny?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 09, 2011, 01:19:58 PM
I hadn't heard.  What's the story?

Goes back to their time with Scotland.

When Fergie was assistant to Jock Stein and Scotland were playing Wales, Fergie asked the Liverpool players for input on how to deal with Ian Rush.  Dalglish said "aye, he's a good player" and refused to offer anything else because of this Liverpool code of conduct pish.  Ferguson was far from impressed, and when it came to Mexico 86 and Dalglish was struggling with injury, Fergie didn't take him. More or less stems from that.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 09, 2011, 01:50:25 PM
Man United boss Sir Alex Ferguson: "I didn't expect Kenny to resurface. But Liverpool see it as the way ahead and... well, it's their club. It's always going to be a tough game, derby game, no introduction needed and everyone knows what it means. We'll try to play as we always do. Rooney and Vidic didn't quite make it, there's no point risking Wayne and it's too early for Nemanja. It's the biggest rivalry and will always be so."

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 09, 2011, 02:23:39 PM
Goes back to their time with Scotland.

When Fergie was assistant to Jock Stein and Scotland were playing Wales, Fergie asked the Liverpool players for input on how to deal with Ian Rush.  Dalglish said "aye, he's a good player" and refused to offer anything else because of this Liverpool code of conduct pish.  Ferguson was far from impressed, and when it came to Mexico 86 and Dalglish was struggling with injury, Fergie didn't take him. More or less stems from that.

There was also the incident recalled by Gareth Southgate before the match:

After a 'Pool United game, Fergie was being interviewed by the TV crews, Dalglish was walking behind them with one of his daughters who was a toddler at the time, Dalglish said "You'd get more sense interviewing my daughter than him". 

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 09, 2011, 02:24:49 PM
So Kenny is a bit of a cunt then?

I always thought he came across pretty decent.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 09, 2011, 02:28:36 PM
So Kenny is a bit of a cunt then?

I always thought he came across pretty decent.

I don't know, I like both of them, I think Kenny is quite dry witted and I like that about him as it appeals to my sense of humour but that was a pretty low thing to say and do.  But we all do things we regret in life.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 09, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
I don't know, I like both of them, I think Kenny is quite dry witted and I like that about him as it appeals to my sense of humour but that was a pretty low thing to say and do.  But we all do things we regret in life.
I googled after I read your post Bobby and got this.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2900/fa-cup/2011/01/09/2296724/youd-get-more-sense-from-my-six-week-old-girl-kenny-dalglish-and-
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 09, 2011, 02:31:01 PM
I don't know, I like both of them, I think Kenny is quite dry witted and I like that about him as it appeals to my sense of humour but that was a pretty low thing to say and do.  But we all do things we regret in life.

I like both of them but I also think that's quite funny.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: 14Fosters on January 09, 2011, 03:58:45 PM
Forgot two other reasons for my intense dislike of Liverpool. 

Sammy Lee.

Every time ITV show one of their games they get Jim Beglin on to commentate.  I think he may be up there with the most biased ever.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 09, 2011, 04:02:10 PM
Forgot two other reasons for my intense dislike of Liverpool. 

Sammy Lee.

Every time ITV show one of their games they get Jim Beglin on to commentate.  I think he may be up there with the most biased ever.
Where's that faces you'd like to punch thread?!?!?!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 09, 2011, 08:16:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jxScE.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 10, 2011, 11:10:20 AM
Steve Clarke has joined Liverpool as first team coach.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9353787.stm

So much for him wanting his own managerial job?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on January 10, 2011, 11:17:39 AM
King Kenny has kicked off his reign at Liverpool by re-igniting the persecution complex. Reiterates what Bobby was saying about getting the fans onside.

Quote
"I've seen the replay and unless they have changed the rules it is not a penalty. The other one, I can't see that as a red card either. In the dressing room before the game someone said to me the game hasn't changed that much and I said I thought it had become a non-contact sport. Maybe I was right."

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 10, 2011, 11:21:46 AM
How ANYONE (and plenty of Liverpool fans on my facebook, Robo aside. Also the online newspaper comments) don't see that as a red card is beyond me.

I said to Robo yesterday that in front of the Kop I reckon the ref would have given a penalty to Liverpool too.

They seem to forget the referee didn't give a penalty to Man Utd that looked like one too.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on January 10, 2011, 11:28:07 AM
Gerrards two footed lunge is a red card all day long. When you go in two feet and off the ground, it's dangerous, reckless and can easily end someone's career. Anyone who claims that it was just a yellow or Webb shouldn't have sent him off is deluded IMHO.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: boboisared on January 10, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
Gerrards two footed lunge is a red card all day long. When you go in two feet and off the ground, it's dangerous, reckless and can easily end someone's career. Anyone who claims that it was just a yellow or Webb shouldn't have sent him off is deluded IMHO.
Definitely. He's got previous.

What cracks me up is Liverpool have two of the biggest divers going (Gerrard and Torres) and there are videos online to prove this yet they get really upset over Berbatov going down easily.

Very soft penalty but it's amdness to even give an opponent the opportunity to do that.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 10, 2011, 03:15:34 PM
Ipswich appoint Paul Jewel.

The gravy train continues. So many cunts that don't really do much of note getting jobs down there.

Been bagged merr times than Nacho Vidal's cock.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 15, 2011, 11:25:53 AM
MON to take over at West Ham after tonight's match according to the Beeb:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/9362709.stm
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 15, 2011, 12:17:31 PM
MON to take over at West Ham after tonight's match according to the Beeb:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/9362709.stm

This was mentioned a couple of weeks ago and apparently MON had told several people he wasn't interested.  I presume that was when he thought he had the chance of the Liverpool job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 15, 2011, 01:48:09 PM
Not a good career move by MON.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 15, 2011, 03:19:51 PM
Not a good career move by MON.

No but I bet he keeps them up!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 15, 2011, 03:21:42 PM
No but I bet he keeps them up!

And if he doesn't?

I'm not overly sure he will, if they sell Parker, as seems likely, they are in deep shite.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 15, 2011, 03:23:09 PM
I think he'll keep them up, and I hope they do stay up. I'm hoping that they win the bid to move into the Olympic stadium rather than Spurs.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 15, 2011, 03:27:38 PM
I think he'll keep them up, and I hope they do stay up. I'm hoping that they win the bid to move into the Olympic stadium rather than Spurs.

Completely agree on both points.
They're a decent club and I've been once, the atmosphere is brilliant.  I was highly sceptical of "I'm forever blowing bubbles" but it almost makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up as the whole home support sing it.
And I do think they need to keep an athletics track at the Olympic stadium - if not, what's the point?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 15, 2011, 03:29:18 PM
I hope they stay up but no guaratees, MON might not turn them around enough or in time.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 15, 2011, 04:59:09 PM
MON always sorts out teams defences well though, and he gets players playing for him. Supposed to be nothing of a coach but a brilliant man manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on January 15, 2011, 05:33:12 PM
Strange career move by MON IMO who I thought was destined for bigger things after Villa. However, if he keeps them up, which I think as every chance of doing, then he is pretty much guranteed a large pot of cash to strengthen the squad and I think that West Ham will only prosper with O'Neill in charge. However, this is about the third season, West Ham are fighting relegation so it may take a bit of time for O'Neill to change the mindset of the team.

But as with McGhee/Brown, it's amazing what a bit of organisation and man management can do!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stuartini on January 15, 2011, 06:53:26 PM
Strange career move by MON IMO who I thought was destined for bigger things after Villa. However, if he keeps them up, which I think as every chance of doing, then he is pretty much guranteed a large pot of cash to strengthen the squad and I think that West Ham will only prosper with O'Neill in charge. However, this is about the third season, West Ham are fighting relegation so it may take a bit of time for O'Neill to change the mindset of the team.

But as with McGhee/Brown, it's amazing what a bit of organisation and man management can do!

The alleged theory behind the choice of west ham is that it's the largest club he I would be in complete charge in. Hence why they ditched the Sidwell deal.

MON will have total sir fergie/clough style charge and in return west ham get him. Seems very strange, but more sensible than inidian chicken farmers, ronalindho and Blackburn, I suppose?!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tsr on January 15, 2011, 09:25:35 PM
Not really, if O'Neill quit Villa due to lack of ambition/resources then how will he find it at West Ham?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 16, 2011, 08:40:15 AM
The alleged theory behind the choice of west ham is that it's the largest club he I would be in complete charge in. Hence why they ditched the Sidwell deal.

MON will have total sir fergie/clough style charge and in return west ham get him. Seems very strange, but more sensible than inidian chicken farmers, ronalindho and Blackburn, I suppose?!

Total control under Sullivan/Gold/Brady? I have my doubts.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 16, 2011, 08:47:53 AM
Total control under Sullivan/Gold/Brady? I have my doubts.

Very unlikely. If he does take it I'll be mightily surprised, he may well keep them up, it's not like they are miles away from even midtable but they ain't very good at all and the potential that the Hammers have is pretty limited in any case.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 18, 2011, 07:45:07 AM
Looks like the Beeb shot their bolt over the MON/West Ham story.  Bit of a climb down now:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/9364690.stm
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 18, 2011, 07:59:00 AM
Looks like the Beeb shot their bolt over the MON/West Ham story.  Bit of a climb down now:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/9364690.stm

As I said in another thread, I don't think this was the media, more a controlled leak to bring publicity to the club, its what Karen Brady does. West Han have shit themselves in the foot.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on January 18, 2011, 08:19:01 AM
As I said in another thread, I don't think this was the media, more a controlled leak to bring publicity to the club, its what Karen Brady does. West Han have shit themselves in the foot.

Messy.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on February 06, 2011, 12:42:07 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/9388972.stm

West Brom manager Roberto Di Matteo has been relieved of his duties and put on gardening leave with immediate effect.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on February 08, 2011, 12:14:10 PM
WTF the fuck is gardening leave?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on February 08, 2011, 01:03:08 PM
WTF the fuck is gardening leave?

When your being paid to be at home doing the gardening. I'm guessing DiMatteo doesn't believe they would have been relegated had he remained in charge and is wanting paid all of the remainder of his contract. West Brom will not be wanting to pay it all and want to negotiate a reduced amount. Hence the stand off, and the gardening leave.
Unless of course there is another reason (conduct) for his sacking and they are awaiting the outcome of the internal investigation to get him out and depending on level of guilt and negotiation over non-disclosure the negotiated pay off. a la Martin Allen at Cheltenham last season.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on February 13, 2011, 06:13:44 PM
Think I've probably said this before but I do have to wonder if it would be best for both parties if Moyes walked away from Everton this summer. 3 points off relegation and they look utterly listless, no hope of a goal really without Saha.  He's done an amazing job there, don't get me wrong, but I thought they looked stale a year or so ago and he doesn't seem to be able to do much to change that with the financial restraints there.  He doesn't owe them anything, and I reckon it'd be best for his career if he went somewhere where the chairman will give him the funds he deserves.

Fucking scary eyes though.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: minijc on February 13, 2011, 06:28:53 PM
Bobby, I would actually agree with you, I like Moyes alot and like Everton too, he can certainly spot a player and train them well in to adpating their game but with the lack of money he is pretty much just going round and round in circles, I would love him to take over at Man u one day think he would do a great job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Cowie on February 13, 2011, 06:34:26 PM
Aye. I'm on the same train of thought.  Moyes probably needs to move on.
The squad is stale and there doesn't seem to be any capital investment whatsoever, kind of reminds me of calderwoods last season here.

Felani(sp?) is also likely to move on in the summer.  Over the past few seasons, they've lost players and not replaced them - that's why they're in the situation they are inn now.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 13, 2011, 06:38:34 PM
It's a sad state of affairs at Everton. But as you both say, would probably be best if he moved on, because I can't see where he's taking the club (not his fault I know). Wasn't it rurmoured a few years back when Fergie was alledgedly retiring that Moyes' name got put forward? Can't see it happening myself though, I think Fergie will die in the job.

Edit: Cowie, you just made the point I was going to make.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Cowie on February 13, 2011, 07:29:20 PM
Great minds and all that..  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on February 13, 2011, 08:30:41 PM
Pep Guardiola will be the next Man Utd manager.

Not a chance it'll be Moyes. Never been a chance it'd be Moyes.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on March 21, 2011, 01:53:29 PM
Quote
Port Vale have parted company with manager Jim Gannon after just 74 days in charge of the League Two club.

The former Stockport and Peterborough boss replaced Micky Adams at Vale Park on 6 January but lost seven and won just four of his 15 matches in charge.

Vale dropped out of the play-off places for the first time this season after a 3-0 defeat at Accrington on Saturday.

Youth team coach Mark Grew will take charge of the team for the home game against Hereford on Tuesday.

More to follow.





What a cunt.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on March 21, 2011, 03:14:27 PM
No danger will moyes be man u manager. Why so sure of guaridola bb?never even heard of him linked before.  I cant see past mourinho for the job when fergie goes, he REALLY wants that job
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Superstar Tradesman on March 21, 2011, 03:28:07 PM
It was Fergie himself that mooted Moyes as being the next man for the job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on March 21, 2011, 04:24:51 PM
No danger will moyes be man u manager. Why so sure of guaridola bb?never even heard of him linked before.  I cant see past mourinho for the job when fergie goes, he REALLY wants that job

Guardiola has said he wants to work with Fergie before he retires and is willing to go there as his assistant supposedly. This in itself obviously doesn't mean much - who wouldn't want to work with Fergie afterall, however, one thing that is definitely true is that whoever it is will be expected to introduce players to teh first team squad from the youth academy. Mourinho is a cheque book manager and doesn't have a fantastic track record of bringing through youngsters.  Guardiola is the exact opposite of that and I think that's why United will go for him.  Fergie is said to be the one having the biggest say in his successor, and I just can't see him going for someone who will not bring through homegrown players.

Might be totally wrong, but I think it's shaping up to be Guardiola as he'll move on from Barca at some point and United would be a good fit for him. Also, guys like Lippi, Hitzfeld who were linked with the job years ago are probably too old themselves to take it now. Doesn't leave a fantastic number of candidates, probably only Guardiola and Mourinho... maybe Laurent Blanc as an outside bet. But my money is on Guardiola.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgowdon on March 21, 2011, 04:52:49 PM
As I have mentioned before, his family live in England (or at least used to) as they love it there.

Just something extra.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on March 21, 2011, 05:39:47 PM
But does Guardiola have a good record according to Wikipedia?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on March 21, 2011, 06:37:51 PM
But does Guardiola have a good record according to Wikipedia?

If you class winnning everything in World Club Football within the first 2 years of your career, then yes.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on March 23, 2011, 01:45:48 PM
I see McGhee is being linked with Port Vale job. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tsr on March 23, 2011, 09:32:01 PM
Was he not linked with that before, after Adams left?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 23, 2011, 10:05:26 PM
Was he not linked with that before, after Adams left?

I thought that was where he'd had an interview and they weren't impressed ???
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on March 24, 2011, 11:01:39 AM
I thought that was where he'd had an interview and they weren't impressed ???

They've only just discovered the internet in Stoke, so have only recently been able to check McGhee out on Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on March 24, 2011, 11:12:21 AM
Was he not linked with that before, after Adams left?

Was interviewed the last time and they gave it to Gannon.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 15, 2011, 07:59:41 PM
No real surprise but Avram Grant binned:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13404955.stm
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 15, 2011, 08:16:33 PM
No real surprise but Avram Grant binned:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13404955.stm

What's more of a surprise is how he stayed so long! Bad appointment all in.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 15, 2011, 08:37:46 PM
if you're a hammer then you'd maybe be questionning why they bottled it from sacking him when "Gollivan" came in. The fact he's being touted for the Director of Football slot at the London Huns just shows how much it matters that your face fits in football.

Also shown by Killie possibly getting Alex Miller as manager....
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 15, 2011, 08:41:26 PM
If i was a hammer i would question why zola was shown the door
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 15, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
If i was a hammer i would question why zola was shown the door

Because he was too small to see the handle...??

 ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on May 15, 2011, 10:46:37 PM
If i was a hammer i would question why zola was shown the door

Because he had a truly shocking season. Although, the problems at West Ham seem to have been around for a while with Curbishely, Zola and now Grant seemingly unable to motivate the players or get them playing.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 22, 2011, 08:24:41 PM
Ancelotti sacked by the London Huns.

why? I dont get this. There's no way Torres was his signing, that's obvious, but why force a struggling Torres on Ancelotti? He's clearly a good manager, this is totally nonsense. As much as i hate the club, they really should realise how lucky they are to have Ancelotti there. Been somthing very wrong there since Wilkins left.....

Who's next?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on May 22, 2011, 08:26:39 PM
McLeish obviously like we talked about in the other thread.

I can see Holloway walking as well.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on May 22, 2011, 08:31:05 PM
Kean at Blackburn. He is shite.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 22, 2011, 08:35:57 PM
Not really surprised by the news ancelotti has been sacked, been spoken about for a while. Though do agree, cracking manager, don't know what abramovic is thinking...they fucked themselves over by getting rid of Wilkins. Wonder if we'll ever find out the truth.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 22, 2011, 08:39:01 PM
Not really surprised by the news ancelotti has been sacked, been spoken about for a while. Though do agree, cracking manager, don't know what abramovic is thinking...they fucked themselves over by getting rid of Wilkins. Wonder if we'll ever find out the truth.

No doubt "JT" will be crying.  "Lamps" will be pointing to the sky.  "Cech" will be putting massive helmets on his head so he doesn't die talking to someone about lampshades. etc
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ptayles on May 22, 2011, 09:42:40 PM
Cant say im surprised at him getting the sack. Abramovich is a clown.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: CtS on May 22, 2011, 10:08:58 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho's already lined up for a Chelsea return.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on May 22, 2011, 11:18:29 PM
Dont think Mouriniho would ever go back to chelsea.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 23, 2011, 08:22:36 AM
Dont think Mouriniho would ever go back to chelsea.

agreed, the club he wants to manage would probably be man united.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 23, 2011, 08:26:13 AM
agreed, the club he wants to manage would probably be man united.

I think you are right. He is one of the few who will think he is good enough to follow Fergie.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 23, 2011, 10:53:24 AM
Ancelotti sacked by the London Huns.

why? I dont get this. There's no way Torres was his signing, that's obvious, but why force a struggling Torres on Ancelotti? He's clearly a good manager, this is totally nonsense. As much as i hate the club, they really should realise how lucky they are to have Ancelotti there. Been somthing very wrong there since Wilkins left.....

Who's next?

It is staggering. Ancelotti is probably as good as it gets. He's been undermined all this season it seems and whatever the fuck went down when Wilkins left probably done for him. Too many cunts in that dressing room too.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 23, 2011, 10:54:17 AM
Kean at Blackburn. He is shite.

Possibly, but I've watched a few Blackburn games recently and they were pretty good.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on May 30, 2011, 01:33:28 PM
Quote
The Championship side relieved Jones of his duties after the club failed to win promotion to the Premier League.

Bluebirds chief executive Gethin Jenkins said: "We would like to thank Dave Jones for his considerable efforts with the club over the past six seasons.

"He leaves his post in the knowledge that he has left the club in a far better position than when he arrived.

"Dave's tenure has seen Cardiff develop from a standpoint of Championship stability through to becoming regular promotion contenders, while also having taken the team to an FA Cup final.

"His efforts in the recruitment and development of players also meant that the sale of these players at times enabled the club to survive.

"He has also had a significant contribution in the development of training facilities and the stadium during his Cardiff City career.

"We thank him for all he has done and achieved with the club and wish him well for the future."



Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3608667/Dave-Jones-sacked-as-manager-of-Cardiff-City.html#ixzz1Nq2zGZTN
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 30, 2011, 02:05:38 PM
There's been rumours abound the last few months that were stating if Cardiff failed to gain promotion, that they would be fucked. I wonder if this is the beginning of a series of cutbacks.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on May 30, 2011, 02:13:58 PM
Bellamy is amongst the favourites for next manager with Skybet  :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on May 30, 2011, 09:54:08 PM
There's been rumours abound the last few months that were stating if Cardiff failed to gain promotion, that they would be fucked. I wonder if this is the beginning of a series of cutbacks.

They spent the season before last staving off winding up orders from the taxman and those same rumours were going about before they lost to Blackpool. Debt was apparently 66million as of August 2010.

Risdale seems to be the kiss of death to a football club.

Leeds - Adminstration and successive relegations - Debt up to 103million
Barnsley - Apparenlty saved them from administration (temporarily) only to leave them on the brink of liquidation
Cardiff - Doubles their debt to 66million and fucks off leaving them threatened by administration and winding up orders
Plymouth - Adminstration, staff and players going unpaid, winding up orders from the taxman and relegation to league 2.

Pity he didnt fancy a  move to Govan or Parkhead
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 31, 2011, 04:58:36 PM
Bellamy is amongst the favourites for next manager with Skybet  :o

Who currently manages Skybet?  ???
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on June 01, 2011, 08:52:24 AM
You really have to wonder about any football club that allows a complete shite magnet like Ridsdale anywhere near their board.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 01, 2011, 09:18:05 AM
Well, they had Sam Hammam (sp) before, who used to cavort with the Soul Crew! Says it all really.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 01, 2011, 10:06:39 AM
Sam Allardyce is the new manager of West Ham.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on June 01, 2011, 10:36:16 AM
Wonder what the Hammers make of that? Do they not (pretentiously) make a big deal of 'playing the right way?' Of course hindsight is wonderful, but the time to bring in Allardyce was January.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 01, 2011, 11:24:33 AM
Wonder what the Hammers make of that? Do they not (pretentiously) make a big deal of 'playing the right way?' Of course hindsight is wonderful, but the time to bring in Allardyce was January.

Aye, exactly what i was thinking on all counts. Of course "playing the right way" has served them so well in recent years when they have attempted to do this and been royally pumped most weeks.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on June 01, 2011, 11:25:52 AM
Wonder what the Hammers make of that? Do they not (pretentiously) make a big deal of 'playing the right way?' Of course hindsight is wonderful, but the time to bring in Allardyce was January.

I'm not sure there is ever a right time to bring in Allardyce.  I wouldn't be happy if I was a Hammers fan.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on June 01, 2011, 11:28:38 AM
Allardyce is a decent enough manager. His style is not the most subtle or the most pleasing on the eye but did a tremendous job at Bolton, wasn't given enough time at Newcastle and stabilised Blackburn.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on June 01, 2011, 11:30:47 AM
No, not sure I would be either. A very come against character, regardless of the success he had at Bolton. Surely would have been better looking to someone with more recent proven success of getting out of the Championship - Chris Hughton perhaps, or Ian Holloway. Billy Davies even.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 01, 2011, 11:32:44 AM
Allardyce is a decent enough manager. His style is not the most subtle or the most pleasing on the eye but did a tremendous job at Bolton, wasn't given enough time at Newcastle and stabilised Blackburn.

I agree with this too. He's the Jimmy Calderwood of England, basically.  Gets his teams playing functional football, emphasis on not losing, not great to watch but solid teams none the less and needs money to function.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 01, 2011, 01:30:33 PM
I don't think it's a bad appointment for West Ham TBH be honest.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on June 02, 2011, 05:55:59 PM
Hughes off to Villa?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13628221.stm
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 02, 2011, 06:06:24 PM
Does he not realise that this involves moving to Buuuurmingham?!?  :hammer:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on June 02, 2011, 06:07:40 PM
Hughes off to Villa?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13628221.stm

Villa would look like total cunts if so. Hughes certainly has some other place lined up and Villa seems the logical place. Ergo, Villa are cunts.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on June 03, 2011, 02:17:39 AM
Hughes has made himself out like a total cunt. I would near about eat a sock of mine if he wasn't appointed Villa manager within the next few days. Money talks. He would have more money and more potential at Villa than he would have at Fulham. I've always liked Hughes as a manager and how he has conducted himself as a manager but how he has resigned and saying there is 'no outside influence' is bullshit. Guaranteed he will be in a job by mid season, even if the season starts, he will be in a job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 03, 2011, 09:59:37 AM
I'm still disappointed he's resigned, though I read his agent is Kia Joorabichan?!? It all makes sense if thats true.

IMO, Martin O'Neil would be a decent appointment for them. I noticed he's been linked with the job this morning.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 03, 2011, 10:13:47 AM
I'm still disappointed he's resigned, though I read his agent is Kia Joorabichan?!? It all makes sense if thats true.

IMO, Martin O'Neil would be a decent appointment for them. I noticed he's been linked with the job this morning.

Apparently the way he resigned and the "activities" of Joorabchian have unsettled the Villa board who are now not interested in taking Hughes.

hate to say it as he's still one of my favourite players of all time, but it does serve him right. He was treated terribly at Man City but he's done the same to Fulham.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on June 04, 2011, 12:01:50 AM
John Cunt Terry on Sky now saying Hughes should get the Chelsea job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 04, 2011, 01:25:18 AM
John Cunt Terry on Sky now saying Hughes should get the Chelsea job.

Apparently Terry's love for Hughes goes back to when Hughes was a player there, and Terry was a juvenile and was brought into training one day to watch them.  He thought - for a legend - Hughes was monumentally shit in training.  He was taken to Stamford Bridge on the Saturday and couldn't believe Hughes was starting.  He scored twice and set up another two and supposedly he's been one of Terry's favourite players since.

But still, John Terry's a fucking cunt really, eh?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on June 04, 2011, 12:49:24 PM
John Terry is a cunt.

Some things need repeated repeated.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on June 04, 2011, 11:24:28 PM
Look up cunt in the dictionary, I bet it says "John Terry"
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 07, 2011, 09:15:33 AM
Martin Jol is the new manager of Fulham.

Good move for them I reckon.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on June 07, 2011, 09:35:37 AM
Martin Jol is the new manager of Fulham.

Good move for them I reckon.

Agreed.  He should want to stay for the long term as I'm sure he'll think he has unfinished business in the EPL.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 07, 2011, 09:55:04 AM
Decent appointment.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 07, 2011, 10:41:22 AM
Quite pleased with this, they seem to have got their appointments correct since Tigana.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on June 07, 2011, 11:34:26 AM
Quite pleased with this, they seem to have got their appointments correct since Tigana.

With the exception of Sanchez.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on June 10, 2011, 03:12:00 PM
Fair play to martinez, not often you see loyalty like that in the face of a miles better offer

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/s91BGFwA0bjTsAwCHgIR86Q/view.m?id=15&gid=football/2011/jun/10/roberto-martinez-aston-villa-wigan&cat=football
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 10, 2011, 03:33:32 PM
I have to say, thats really refreshing to read. Obviously I don't know him personally, but he certainly comes across as a decent bloke.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on June 10, 2011, 03:41:13 PM
I've thought he seemed
really likeable when i saw him
get interviewed just before he left swansea.  I can see him going on to do good things in management.... Maybe even great things
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 12, 2011, 04:49:12 PM
Big Eck has resigned as Brum manager. Crossing the great divide perhaps?  Unwise surely!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13743923.stm
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on June 12, 2011, 05:01:01 PM
Big Eck has resigned as Brum manager. Crossing the great divide perhaps?  Unwise surely!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13743923.stm

I'd imagine it would make his life in Birmingham pretty difficult. 

Think he'd do a great job there but surely he has more sense!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 12, 2011, 05:18:32 PM
That cock Billy Davies is out the door at Forest too.  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on June 13, 2011, 12:45:41 AM
I'd imagine it would make his life in Birmingham pretty difficult.

He lives in London.

And I'm not surprised. The new board st Brum promised him buckets of cash and he was given enough to sign a shower of cunts who are past it like Bowyer and Ferguson.

Amazingly these old cunts are injury prone, and with such a small squad injuries didn't exactly help.

Not sure where his next move will be, but if I was a betting man I wouldn't put my cash on it being Villa.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on June 13, 2011, 08:20:32 AM
Moyes to villa eck to everton maybe?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on June 13, 2011, 09:29:21 AM
Steve McLaren named new manager of Forest.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 13, 2011, 12:08:14 PM
Moyes to villa eck to everton maybe?

It is something my Brum mate suggested actually. I don't think Eck would do well there though, as they have no money and he certainly seems to be able to get success with an injection of cash.

Has McLaren managed in the championship before? Fair step down from the Eredivisie and Bundesliga.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on June 13, 2011, 04:57:53 PM
It is something my Brum mate suggested actually. I don't think Eck would do well there though, as they have no money and he certainly seems to be able to get success with an injection of cash.

Has McLaren managed in the championship before? Fair step down from the Eredivisie and Bundesliga.
Don't think he's managed but he was assistant boss at Derby before going to United.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on June 13, 2011, 06:36:48 PM
I wouldnt say the Championship is a step down from the current eredivisie
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on June 14, 2011, 09:34:28 AM
I wouldnt say the Championship is a step down from the current eredivisie

Aye and Forest are a big club.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on June 14, 2011, 10:39:23 PM
Alan Shearer in talks with Cardiff City!

We could get the cunt off MOTD at last!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on June 15, 2011, 05:46:21 PM
Shearer unsuccessful apparently. They seem to want Malky Mackay!

Seems as though McLeish was getting pished about at Brum too, putting together a case for constructive dismissal, though is about to talk to Villa.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on June 15, 2011, 07:51:16 PM
See Villa fans are protesting out side their ground tonight about McLeishe's possible appointment. They do not look happy.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 17, 2011, 08:07:15 AM
That's because they're a bunch of stupid twats. I think McLeish will be their best appointment since MoN.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 17, 2011, 08:39:53 AM
That's because they're a bunch of stupid twats. I think McLeish will be their best appointment since MoN.

I can't say I blame them and I'm not convinced about him either. He'll certainly be given plenty of money so we'll see.

Would you be happy to have Sally McCoist as Dons manager? No, don't think so.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 17, 2011, 08:50:18 AM
Would you be happy to have Sally McCoist as Dons manager? No, don't think so.

That would probably be the end of me if that happened.  He's not my favourite person in the world, it has to be said.

The cheating cunt.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: jmo on June 17, 2011, 12:45:22 PM
I can't say I blame them and I'm not convinced about him either. He'll certainly be given plenty of money so we'll see.

Would you be happy to have Sally McCoist as Dons manager? No, don't think so.

McCoist seems to be Rangers through and through though, he was a player for so long and then assistant manager for a few years now, he is one of those people who seem to represent Rangers. Wouldn't say that McLeish does that with Birmingham. Never played for them, only manager of them for a couple of years (or was it 3? Not that long either way). McCleish certainly isn't to Birmingham what McCoist is to Rangers.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 18, 2011, 12:21:08 PM
I can't say I blame them and I'm not convinced about him either. He'll certainly be given plenty of money so we'll see.

Would you be happy to have Sally McCoist as Dons manager? No, don't think so.

No I wouldn't but McLeish has been at Birmingham for just a few years and nae his whole career like McCoist has been at Hungers.

Remember how McLeish left Birmingham. He left in apparently a fairly disrespectful way and joined their close rivals. Villa fans should look at it in a different light.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on June 18, 2011, 04:42:36 PM
Quote from: manc_don link=topic=13722.msg232201#msg232201 d
ate=1308296393
I can't say I blame them and I'm not convinced about him either. He'll certainly be given plenty of money so we'll see.

Would you be happy to have Sally McCoist as Dons manager? No, don't think so.

Le Guen would be a better comparison.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 20, 2011, 04:20:42 PM
Quote
Chelsea are set to recruit the Porto manager André Villas-Boas, according to reports in Portugal, and the coach has accepted the offer to work in London.

Villas-Boas will earn €5m (£4.4m) a season, the exact salary José Mourinho earned at the west London club, according to Jornal de Notícias. Chelsea will also pay the €15m (£13.2m) release clause in the manager's contract. Maisfutebol reported on Monday that Porto are just waiting for Chelsea to deposit the €15m before officially announcing the departure of their manager.

However, in a statement to the Portuguese Securites Market Commission on Monday lunchtime, Porto said that they have not received an offer which meets the release clause. Chelsea made no comment on the situation on Monday morning.

Villas-Boas has already informed Porto of his decision to leave for the English club, a source linked to the process told the Agência.

On Sunday the Porto president Pinto da Costa said "if a club pay the €15m and if he wants to leave, FC Porto can't do anything about it".

Apparently, Villas-Boas is now willing to leave the "dream job" (a reference to how Da Costa described his position at Porto) to re-join the club where he worked with Mourinho.

Villas-Boas led Porto to the domestic double and Europa League success last term and Chelsea are looking to fill the vacancy created by the sacking of Carlo Ancelotti.

Chelsea's owner, Roman Abramovich, may leave €45m in the coffers at Porto's Dragão stadium in total, moreover. According to A Bola, he also wants to take the Colombian forward Falcao to London as a sweetener for Villas-Boas's signature.

Chelsea have also been in negotiations with Guus Hiddink about returning to the club he briefly managed in 2009. Chelsea have been considering the Dutchman for either the coach's job or the sporting director role – should he take on the latter then there would also be room for Villas-Boas to take a position at the club.

However, his agent, Cees van Nieuwenhuizen, felt the Dutchman would be wary of taking the director of football role. "One hundred per cent we have never discussed that, and I know Guus has not given it a thought for one second. He has a tough enough challenge trying to qualify Turkey for the Euros. And if he does that then he will be going to the finals next year. And if he doesn't then it will probably end with Turkey in November."
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on August 28, 2011, 05:42:47 PM
Ooft.  Wenger's last game?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on August 30, 2011, 09:02:56 AM
No.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 24, 2011, 07:25:55 PM
Eriksson sacked by Leicester city.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15438896.stm
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on October 24, 2011, 10:32:04 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gsTVgB8LhUA/RnE2j96ybxI/AAAAAAAAAos/rviJ9UcioC0/s200/Jimmy%2BCalderwood.jpg)+(http://www.hcr.co.uk/_assets/client/images/collateral/walkers%20crisps.gif)=(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2001/08/24/trophysm.gif)

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on October 25, 2011, 12:14:27 AM
Well it's nae gonna be McGhee is it  ::)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on November 30, 2011, 08:13:34 PM
Steve Bruce sacked.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 30, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
Steve Bruce sacked.

I feel bad for him, not his fault the club chose to get rid of all their strikers! Not surprised by it at all though.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on November 30, 2011, 09:45:16 PM
O'Neill & Hughes looking like the favourites.

JC not a popular choice with my Mackem mate though ???
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on December 02, 2011, 09:41:44 AM
Looks like O'Neill is taking it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15997197.stm
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Azteca1903 on December 02, 2011, 09:51:57 AM
Looks like O'Neill is taking it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15997197.stm

Hope they're prepared to spend a lot. Some of it on Heskey.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Penfold on December 02, 2011, 09:52:48 AM
Has O'Neill ever explained why he left Villa? Seem to remember there was some strange circumstances.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 02, 2011, 01:43:46 PM
Has O'Neill ever explained why he left Villa? Seem to remember there was some strange circumstances.

Fell out with the chairman regarding their plans did he not? Although, again, that was all conjecture.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Azteca1903 on December 02, 2011, 01:47:14 PM
Fell out with the chairman regarding their plans did he not? Although, again, that was all conjecture.

Apparently threw the toys oot when he was asked to trim the wage budget, which was at something like 80-85% of turnover.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on December 02, 2011, 08:10:45 PM
Hope they're prepared to spend a lot. Some of it on Heskey.

Sunderland must have money to spend from the sale of Bent (which incidentally seems to have been the catalyst for Bruce's demise)?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: mizer on December 07, 2011, 03:10:29 PM
Quote
New Sunderland manager Martin O'Neill has added Hibernian's head of performance Jim Henry to his staff.

O'Neill was appointed as successor to Steve Bruce at the Premier League club at the weekend.

"Hibernian can confirm head of performance Jim Henry has left the club," they said in a statement.

"He joins Martin O'Neill's new backroom team at Sunderland with immediate effect. The club would like to thank Jim for his contribution."

A former Scottish judo international, Henry worked with O'Neill at Celtic and Aston Villa before joining Hibernian in November 2010.

O'Neill took over team affairs at the Stadium of Light on Monday, having watched Sunday's 2-1 Premier League defeat by Wolves at Molineux from the stands.

The 59-year-old will be in charge for Sunday's match against fellow strugglers Blackburn.

Sunderland are 17th in the Premier League, one point off the relegation places, having won only twice this season.

O'Neill has already appointed Steve Walford as his first-team coach and Seamus McDonagh as goalkeeping coach. They replace Eric Black and Nigel Spink from Bruce's backroom team.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgow sheep on December 07, 2011, 04:06:34 PM
English managers thread for this pish
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on December 07, 2011, 06:31:31 PM
English managers thread for this pish

Cunts nae English or a manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 14, 2011, 01:16:09 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16178900.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16178900.stm)

Brown departs Preston.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgow sheep on December 14, 2011, 03:19:55 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16178900.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16178900.stm)

Brown departs Preston.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/preston/3609772.stm
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Superstar Tradesman on December 15, 2011, 01:26:07 PM
"Hibernian's head of performance"

I love a good oxymoron.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 26, 2011, 11:44:29 PM
Owen Coyle's one dimensionality is being exposed.

Took a while. The boy's got some bullshit and bluster.  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on January 08, 2012, 06:24:48 PM
Twitter rumours that Colin Wanker has been sacked.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on January 08, 2012, 06:31:40 PM
Now confirmed on SSN.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on January 08, 2012, 08:57:14 PM
Alex Miller has a new job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 08, 2012, 09:18:40 PM
Alex Miller has a new job.

You need a Managers in Russia thread  ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 17, 2012, 09:34:48 PM
McGhee on Bristol Rovers shortlist:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16575643.stm
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 17, 2012, 10:50:53 PM
Bristol Rovers, good for the ol' Wiki page.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on January 17, 2012, 11:10:02 PM
McGhee on Bristol Rovers shortlist:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16575643.stm

mmm Rovers this season? How not to improve your wikipedia record. There's a reason why EVERYONE has turned it down, so far.

Hopefully he's in before Saturday and he can inspire his Rovers team to equalling the scoreline from his first competitive game in charge of Aberdeen.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 18, 2012, 08:22:41 AM
he'll be ragin if he gets taken on by Rovers during the WIkipedia blackoot and folk have to wait a day so they can check up on him  ;D

Haha jager, I had the same thought this morning when i heard about it :D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on January 18, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
Sky Sports News @SkySportsNews 1
Mark McGhee appointed manager of Bristol Rovers #SSN

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: mizer on January 18, 2012, 10:44:17 AM
Quote
Bristol Rovers are delighted to announce the appointment of Mark McGhee as their new manager.

The experienced Scotsman, who has managed at the highest level, will join Rovers on a two-and-a-half year contract as the club seek to secure stability.

Chairman Nick Higgs said: "We are delighted to bring Mark to the club.

"We were very impressed with the quality of candidates for the position, but he was a cut above, he interviewed extremely well, and has a fantastic pedigree.

"Mark has a great track record, and has managed at the highest level in this country and in Scotland.

"His approach is very professional and he impressed us with his plans to take Rovers forward and get the club up where it belongs.

"We are all now looking forward to the rest of the season with Mark in charge."

McGhee began his managerial career as player/manager at Reading in 1991. He officially retired as a player in 1993, and guided Reading to promoting from Division Two the following season.

His team continued to progress and he was head hunted by Premiership Leicester City. In December 1994 he joined the Foxes, but the Midlands club were already involved in a relegation battle, and he was unable to save them.

In December 1995 he moved to Wolverhampton Wanderers and in the 1996/97 season Wolves finished amongst the play off places, but eventually lost out to Crystal Palace in the semi-final tie.

During the 1997/98 season McGhee had his best FA Cup run to date, being beaten by Arsenal in the semi-final.

McGhee parted company with Wolves in November 1998, and after time working as a scout under Gordon Strachan at Coventry, he took the job as Millwall manager in December 2000.

He led the club to the Division Two title in his first season in charge, and reached the Division One play offs the following season - this time losing out to Birmingham City in the semi-final.

The Scot left the New Den in October 2003, and joined Brighton less than two weeks later.

In his first season there he helped the Seagulls regain promotion to the Championship, after beating Bristol City in the final.

His next managerial role took him north of the border, back to his native Scotland. In June 2007 he was appointed the new manager of Motherwell.

McGhee transformed Motherwell from a team that just avoided relegation to finishing 3rd in his first season in charge, which meant that Motherwell qualified for the UEFA Cup.

This was the first time in 13 years that Motherwell had qualified for European competition.

In June 2009, he became manager of Aberdeen, where he remained until November 2010.

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on January 18, 2012, 10:49:55 AM
he'll be ragin if he gets taken on by Rovers during the WIkipedia blackoot and folk have to wait a day so they can check up on him  ;D
Christopher Harvey @ChristopherHarv
Ironically, due to the #wiki blackout, Mark McGhee can't ask assembled hacks to look up his fine managerial record #BRFC

 Some one has been reading Donstalk. :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgowdon on January 18, 2012, 11:37:58 AM
Cached pages still work.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on January 18, 2012, 06:18:32 PM
Cached pages still work.

And McGhee is still shite.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 19, 2012, 08:22:54 PM
Eric Black to become new Blackburn Rovers assistant manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: mizer on February 01, 2012, 02:51:54 PM
McGhee is doing well down at Bristol Rovers, 2 wins of of 2 after they had been of a run of 10 without a win.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on February 01, 2012, 03:01:41 PM
McGhee is doing well down at Bristol Rovers, 2 wins of of 2 after they had been of a run of 10 without a win.
That's cos he's a damn good manager who was undermined from day one from outwith by Sellick and from within by Milne and Miller.











I'll get my Nevica (1988)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on February 01, 2012, 04:04:54 PM
Grayson gone at Leeds.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: mizer on February 01, 2012, 05:26:57 PM
I'll get my Nevica (1988)

(http://img0.etsystatic.com/il_fullxfull.296070576.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on February 01, 2012, 05:30:29 PM
Grayson gone at Leeds.

Sounds like they are going to get Warnock in to get them their much needed return to the top flight.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on February 01, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
That's cos he's a damn good manager who was undermined from day one from outwith by Sellick and from within by Milne and Miller.


I'll get my Nevica (1988)
:lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on February 01, 2012, 11:09:32 PM
Owen Coyle deserves a slap. His establishment-sycophantisising makes my ears burn. An ice pick perhaps, or possibly a strangle.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on February 01, 2012, 11:13:13 PM
Martin O'Neill's insistence on wearing rugby shirts under his woollies is disturbing.
Title: Capello Resigns
Post by: Penfold on February 08, 2012, 07:28:09 PM
http://www.thefa.com/England/News/2012/080212.aspx

Who is in then? Right or wrong to walk over the Terry farce?
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Kowalski on February 08, 2012, 07:29:57 PM
What a carry on.
Probably bad news if you're a Spurs fan.
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: glasgowdon on February 08, 2012, 07:37:07 PM
Redknapp walks and Capello resigns on the same day?
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: manc_don on February 08, 2012, 07:42:58 PM
Redknapp walks and Capello resigns on the same day?

Lol, would be crazy coincidence.
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Penfold on February 08, 2012, 07:56:32 PM
'arry to England, Moyes to Spurs and Walter to Everton?  :o
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: dave_min on February 08, 2012, 08:11:20 PM
http://www.thefa.com/England/News/2012/080212.aspx

Who is in then? Right or wrong to walk over the Terry farce?

I'd say Capello is right.

That's not the important thing, the important thing is England are trying their best to fuck up the Euros before they even start.

It'll be Beckham managing them in Poland.
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Kowalski on February 08, 2012, 08:23:26 PM
I don't think Capello is right at all.  Terry is utter scum and its pretty clear there is disharmony in the squad while Terry is still there.
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: dave_min on February 08, 2012, 08:30:01 PM
I don't think Capello is right at all.  Terry is utter scum and its pretty clear there is disharmony in the squad while Terry is still there.

I don't disagree with your thought on Terry, but whats the point of having a manager if they're not gonna be in charge of first team affairs?
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: baggy89 on February 08, 2012, 08:58:49 PM
HAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Madbadteacher on February 08, 2012, 09:00:05 PM
I don't disagree with your thought on Terry, but whats the point of having a manager if they're not gonna be in charge of first team affairs?

Agree with this, otherwise what's the point of Capello being there? MadVlad for england?

Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Kowalski on February 08, 2012, 09:54:49 PM
I don't disagree with your thought on Terry, but whats the point of having a manager if they're not gonna be in charge of first team affairs?

I just think he's completely wrong about Terry and that the FA realised this and decided to act as Fabio didn't look like he was going to.  The innocent until proven guilty line is a pile of shite, as people get suspended from work all the time pending the outcome of charges.

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/396543_3156382549723_1270016211_3157796_1694984371_n.jpg)
Title: Mcleish resigns
Post by: dandy on February 08, 2012, 10:09:56 PM
Mcleish reported to have resigned
Title: Re: Mcleish resigns
Post by: dave_min on February 08, 2012, 10:15:07 PM
I just texted my mole in the McLeish camp and he says bullshit.

It was from a fake twitter account.
Title: Re: Mcleish resigns
Post by: Tyrant on February 08, 2012, 10:38:29 PM
He'll be sacked within a few weeks anyway.
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Tyrant on February 08, 2012, 10:41:00 PM
Delighted for Spurs.  ;D
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: scotfree on February 09, 2012, 07:07:57 AM
Apparently, a dog named Rosie has just put. £189,000 on Harry Redknapp to be next England manager.
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: manc_don on February 09, 2012, 07:31:34 AM
Delighted for Spurs.  ;D

You'll still finish outside the euro spots :wave: ;)
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Tyrant on February 09, 2012, 08:07:44 AM
You'll still finish outside the euro spots :wave: ;)


I know. Motherwell and Hearts are just better atm the moment.
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: manc_don on February 09, 2012, 08:25:45 AM

I know. Motherwell and Hearts are just better atm the moment.

Touche ;)
Title: Re: Mcleish resigns
Post by: Edinburghdon on February 09, 2012, 02:13:23 PM
Mcleish reported to have resigned

 ::)
Title: Re: Mcleish resigns
Post by: Jute on February 09, 2012, 10:44:03 PM
Bit in the paper this morning suggesting that there will be a fan protest at Villa this weekend.
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Kowalski on February 11, 2012, 12:02:12 PM
http://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/england-football-manager-london-wembley-travel-required/21171278

Almost looks genuine.

 :D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on February 13, 2012, 11:16:55 AM
Mick McCarthy sacked.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 13, 2012, 11:19:29 AM
Can't say I was surprised after that result yesterday. Bizarrely enough, they looked the better side from the highlights yesterday.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Penfold on February 13, 2012, 11:43:42 AM
Can't say I was surprised after that result yesterday. Bizarrely enough, they looked the better side from the highlights yesterday.

I watched it from about 30mins in and West Brom were controlling the game from that point till the equaliser right before halftime which was against the run of play. At 1-1 and 2-1 I think there was a spell of chances for both teams so the game oculd have gone either way but then Wolves just collapsed once West Brom got the 3rd.

West brom were cracking odds too  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: CtS on February 13, 2012, 05:20:16 PM
I've just seen a short interview he gave SSN as he was leaving the ground in his car, and he looked really emotional and came across as a genuine bloke.  Don't like seeing anyone losing their job.

Unless they work for Rangers.  ;)
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Superstar Tradesman on February 14, 2012, 12:54:09 PM
Please let this become a reality.....

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/mick-mccarthy-england-manager-085957417.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/mick-mccarthy-england-manager-085957417.html)

 ;D
Title: Re: Capello Resigns
Post by: Madbadteacher on February 14, 2012, 05:39:14 PM
MMC to Leeds, Curbishley for engerlund.





















Or MCoist, he'll bee out of work soon! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 15, 2012, 03:31:17 PM
Lee Clark has left Hudderfield Town.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17042572 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17042572)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgow sheep on February 15, 2012, 03:42:39 PM
Lee Clark has left Hudderfield Town.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17042572 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17042572)

Seems a strange one
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 15, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
A guy I used to go to uni with and is an avid Hudderfield fan seems to think it's the right decision. I thought it was a bit rash tbf!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 15, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
Lee Clark has left Hudderfield Town.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17042572 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17042572)

I know there was a section of the Huddersfield support that never took to Clark and wanted him out after failure to get up last season. Fact that they have dropped out of the automatic places in the last few weeks might have brought the old grudges back to the surface.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on February 15, 2012, 11:06:17 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17045572

LMFAO

Will they want him to sign Dazzler for his penalty skills (a la Firhill vs QP in shootout)...."That's 3 goddamnit points there"
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on March 04, 2012, 01:41:47 PM
villas boas sacked

hardly surprising
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on March 04, 2012, 01:42:07 PM
What a waste of money.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on March 04, 2012, 02:25:27 PM
I thought they might have stuck with him but his record has been appalling.

Someone will a tough gig sorting that group of cunts out.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on March 04, 2012, 03:28:17 PM
yeah and di matteo is not going to cut the mustard when it comes to that task
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on March 04, 2012, 03:50:35 PM
What a waste of money.
And almost predictably so. It would be a rare 34 year old to have enough life-experience, enough self-knowledge and enough maturity to effectively man-manage rich and talented athletes not much younger than him.

He wasn't that rare man.

The curse of Roman's stolens goes on. Mourinho was the magic he couldn't appreciate and even he couldn't pull off 3 in a row v. SAF. The elusive Champions League is no longer even a pipe-dream. How excellent that a Terry slip on the penalty spot is what he'll have nightmares over, for the rest of his thieving, disreputable existence.

I laff at Chelski. Drogba. Terry. Cole. Fannies, the lot o em.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on March 04, 2012, 07:08:19 PM
yeah and di matteo is not going to cut the mustard when it comes to that task

He's absolutely hated at the London huns. The players hate him.  Amazing considering he's a legend at the club, but as rocket points out, their squad is full of fannies and they are oblivious to the real world.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on March 27, 2012, 10:19:15 AM
He's absolutely hated at the London huns. The players hate him.
This, I severely doubt.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on March 27, 2012, 10:22:08 AM
Dalglish getting found out at Liverpool. The journos hate him more than he hates journos.

Let that be two lessons to you "king" kenny: -

1. There's no need to be nasty to people for no good reason.

2. You're as thick as mince. You're pretending otherwise is cringeworthy. Know your limits, severe as they are in your case.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on March 27, 2012, 10:29:14 AM
Dalglish getting found out at Liverpool. The journos hate him more than he hates journos.

Let that be two lessons to you "king" kenny: -

1. There's no need to be nasty to people for no good reason.

2. You're as thick as mince. You're pretending otherwise is cringeworthy. Know your limits, severe as they are in your case.

"No need to be nasty" coming from Mr. Scientist.  :lolabove: I actually don't disagree though. But I think a certain pwoud Mr. Ferguson could learn more form that advice than Kenny.

The second part? Probably. Many, if not most managers are thick though. I want him oot and replaced by Mourinho.  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on March 27, 2012, 10:38:30 AM
What you want is of no consequence, neither to the price of fish nor your adopted scouse scum club.

If you're doing glory-hunting, best to pick a better prospect. Just saying.

Who the fuck do LFC think they are that they could attract the world's best manager? Unbelievable.

The arrogance and the unreality of their own self-awareness defies any reasonable position.

Liverpool is a horrible city full of horrible people with zero intergrity. Like Jose would choose to go there? Absurd.
 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on March 27, 2012, 11:06:13 AM
What you want is of no consequence, neither to the price of fish nor your adopted scouse scum club.

If you're doing glory-hunting, best to pick a better prospect. Just saying.

Who the fuck do LFC think they are that they could attract the world's best manager? Unbelievable.

The arrogance and the unreality of their own self-awareness defies any reasonable position.

Liverpool is a horrible city full of horrible people with zero intergrity. Like Jose would choose to go there? Absurd.


If I was a glory hunter I'd follow Man Utd like most other cunts up here. Or I'd support one of the Old Firm, again like most cunts up here. I support Aberdeen and follow Liverpool yet some silly people actually think I'm glory hunting? Fucking lol.  ::)

Mourinho has made clear many times that he has a lot of time for Liverpool and he appreciates the club. He would have taken the job when Rafa got sacked. Woy was the cheaper option for the owners at the time.  Whether he'd take it now I'm not sure but it's not beyond the realms of possibility like you're suggesting. Given the right pay packet and finincial backing in the transfer market I don't see why not.

I've always found Liverpool to be a nice place when I've been there. My favourite part was a wall outside Goodison Park that had "Die Rooney, Die" spray painted on it.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on March 27, 2012, 12:50:08 PM
I went to Liverpool once.

ONCE

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: fatjim on March 27, 2012, 01:19:08 PM
Liverpool is the arsehole of the world.

I passed through it once.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on March 27, 2012, 02:05:23 PM
I have been countless times. Aye there are chavs going about but fucking hell where do chavs and neds not exist? It's no less or more of a shitehole than places like Machester, Glasgow and Birmingham.  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on March 28, 2012, 09:00:00 PM
Turra?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on April 09, 2012, 10:02:01 PM
Steve Evans left Crawley for Rotherham, meaning first-team coach Craig Brewster is caretaker manager. Started off with a 2-1 win today.

That'll be him adding his name to the list of Broon's successor behind Paul Hartley then?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on April 10, 2012, 01:32:42 PM
Steve Evans left Crawley for Rotherham, meaning first-team coach Craig Brewster is caretaker manager. Started off with a 2-1 win today.

That'll be him adding his name to the list of Broon's successor behind Paul Hartley then?

Odd that Coppell has been inserted a DoF today. I assumed the crook walked and took the Rotherham job because the source of creepies money had or was about to disappear. It'll be interesting to see how long Brewster lasts as I'd always assumed he'd be too principled to get involved in the brown envelope culture that seems to follow Evans around. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on April 29, 2012, 07:45:42 PM
West Brom allowing the FA to speak to Roy Hodgson
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on April 29, 2012, 08:19:34 PM
West Brom allowing the FA to speak to Roy Hodgson

sensible decision.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on April 29, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
Fuck

Would much rather redknapp got it.  tactically clueless, his best ability is spending money well. Cant do that internationally and i think he would struggle as a result.

Hodgson is the opposite, good at working with what he's got and getting them to play well. Hallmark of his best teams is they are greater than the  sum of their parts, knows  international management too.  Only downside i can see on woy is that the players might be unimpressed as he's not a 'big name'
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Superstar Tradesman on April 30, 2012, 08:30:24 AM
Hodgson is the opposite, good at working with what he's got and getting them to play well.

Like Liverpool you mean?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on April 30, 2012, 11:39:28 AM
He was on a sticky wicket from the word go there.  Fans didnt want him and were very vocal about it
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on April 30, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
He was on a sticky wicket from the word go there.  Fans didnt want him and were very vocal about it


 ???

In my experience they did want him.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 30, 2012, 01:35:20 PM

 ???

In my experience they did want him.

Really? I didn't know one Liverpool fan that did want him  :-\
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on April 30, 2012, 01:45:14 PM
I wasn't unhappy when he came in.. and I know several that were pleased with the appointment.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on April 30, 2012, 02:03:57 PM
I wasn't unhappy when he came in.. and I know several that were pleased with the appointment.

Were they Man U and Everton fans?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on April 30, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
Liverpool fans i know said to me they felt it was too big a job for him.  Most were raging at the treatment of benitez as well which didn't help and add to that he was seen as the hicks/gillete appointment.  Hindsight is wonderful but looking back he never had much of a chance at anfield with so many factors going against him. 

That hodgson is better qualified for the role is a no brainer, i really hope that england fans respond the same way as Liverpool fans did.

Hows the news being taken down south manc?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on April 30, 2012, 10:41:30 PM
Woy for Engerlund is magic. He's such a fud. The FA are hilariously inept.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on April 30, 2012, 10:45:22 PM
Woy for Engerlund is magic. He's such a fud. The FA are hilariously inept.

Tend to agree with this, Woy has specialised in getting "wee" teams punching above their weight and when given the big deal job, woyally fucking it up.

I sense a woyal fuck up. And W.O.W.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 01, 2012, 12:12:13 AM
Guessing FA not convinced by Arrys not guilty verdict then.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 01, 2012, 12:43:23 AM
Tend to agree with this, Woy has specialised in getting "wee" teams punching above their weight and when given the big deal job, woyally fucking it up.

I sense a woyal fuck up. And W.O.W.

I think Hodgson is more likely to get screwed by players and fans not being impressed than by his ability.  I've looked but i can't find it again but i read earlier that hodgson at one point got switzerland to 3rd in the fifa world rankings!   Thats mental if true!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgowdon on May 01, 2012, 10:20:20 AM
Is this a permanent or temporary appointment for the tournament?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 01, 2012, 10:27:19 AM
Permanent.  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgowdon on May 01, 2012, 10:54:13 AM
Permanent.  :wave:

Not sure the wave was required but thanks.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgow sheep on May 01, 2012, 11:18:24 AM
Tend to agree with this, Woy has specialised in getting "wee" teams punching above their weight and when given the big deal job, woyally fucking it up.

I sense a woyal fuck up. And W.O.W.

I'm sure he could equally confound expectations and get England to punch above their weight, 2nd round even.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgowdon on May 01, 2012, 11:37:14 AM
I actually think Hodgson is a good appointment. The only doubts I would have as an Englandshire fan are the following:

1. Is he a big enough name for the players to respect?
2. Will he keep playing the same guys who fail time and time again?

I guess 1. could be eradicated by the answer to 2. being "no".
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 01, 2012, 11:44:16 AM
I actually think Hodgson is a good appointment. The only doubts I would have as an Englandshire fan are the following:

1. Is he a big enough name for the players to respect?
2. Will he keep playing the same guys who fail time and time again?

I guess 1. could be eradicated by the answer to 2. being "no".

Agreed.
I think he's a better shout for them than Redknapp.  If their so called golden generation are not happy then he should just bin them.  Obviously I hope for an epic fail though.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on May 01, 2012, 02:03:19 PM
Is the england job ever "permanaent"?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Harcus on May 01, 2012, 02:21:55 PM
Is the england job ever "permanaent"?

I don't think I've ever heard of any job that's permanaent.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 01, 2012, 05:56:31 PM
I actually think Hodgson is a good appointment. The only doubts I would have as an Englandshire fan are the following:

1. Is he a big enough name for the players to respect?
2. Will he keep playing the same guys who fail time and time again?

I guess 1. could be eradicated by the answer to 2. being "no".

Agreed, having to deal with Messrs Gerrard and Terry is enough to send anyone loopy.

Tlg, in response to your post, i haven't really heard anyone moan about it. Most people just suspect it's about money which it clearly is but no-ones moaned. Give it time!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on May 01, 2012, 06:30:53 PM
I actually think Hodgson is a good appointment. The only doubts I would have as an Englandshire fan are the following:

1. Is he a big enough name for the players to respect?
2. Will he keep playing the same guys who fail time and time again?

I guess 1. could be eradicated by the answer to 2. being "no".

Hi  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 02, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
(http://p.twimg.com/Ar2B8xBCIAE8e4f.jpg)

 ::)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 02, 2012, 01:08:30 PM
Making a complete cunt of him already, great start. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 11, 2012, 01:28:52 PM
Wolves appoint Solbakken as manager.

Remember him . . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XQAH0IySz0
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 14, 2012, 04:34:31 PM
Mcleish sacked by villa, hardly a shock.  The fans were never going to take to him, was always a silly appointment imo
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 14, 2012, 04:43:22 PM
Mcleish sacked by villa, hardly a shock.  The fans were never going to take to him, was always a silly appointment imo

Yip.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgow sheep on May 15, 2012, 11:32:26 AM
Wolves appoint Solbakken as manager.

Remember him . . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XQAH0IySz0

That makes me want to cry
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 16, 2012, 04:19:55 PM
King Kenny  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on May 16, 2012, 06:14:02 PM
I'd be pretty worried if I was a weegie manager in the EPL, that's 4 gone in 4 days now!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 16, 2012, 07:26:57 PM
I'd be pretty worried if I was a weegie manager in the EPL, that's 4 gone in 4 days now!

There are now as many weegie managers in the SPL as there are in the EPL  :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 16, 2012, 08:49:23 PM
      Roberto Martínez    6/4
      Rafa Benitez    2/1
      Brendan Rodgers    11/4
      Andre Villas-Boas    3/1
      Fabio Capello    9/1
      Frank Rijkaard    10/1
      Jose Mourinho    14/1
      Josep Guardiola    14/1
      Paul Lambert    14/1
      Martin O'Neill    16/1
      Louis Van Gaal    16/1
      Claudio Ranieri    16/1
      Carlo Ancelotti    20/1
      Guus Hiddink    20/1
      Harry Redknapp    20/1
      Sami Hyppia    20/1
      Didier Deschamps    20/1
      Marcelo Bielsa    20/1
      Laurent Blanc    25/1
      Steve Nicol    25/1
      Jurgen Klopp    25/1
      Gus Poyet    28/1
      Steve Clarke    33/1
      David Moyes    33/1
      Sven Goran Eriksson    33/1
      Roberto Di Matteo    33/1
      Bob Bradley    33/1
      Jurgen Klinsmann    33/1
      Jimmy Calderwood    40/1
      Graeme Souness    50/1
      Kevin Keegan    50/1

Martinez seems an odd one.  He's done well at Wigan, but surely Liverpool should be aiming for a really big name if they really want to be back amongst the big boys.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 16, 2012, 08:52:13 PM
   
      Jimmy Calderwood    40/1
      

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 16, 2012, 09:09:31 PM
Liverpool fan on TV outside Anfield:

"King Kenny.... problem is you should never go back"
"Is there a manager you'd like to see take the job?"
"rafa"
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgowdon on May 16, 2012, 09:40:50 PM
Thing is, out of that list, only Martinez seems reasonable.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 16, 2012, 10:52:32 PM
Paul Lambert plays right type of football for Liverpool fans.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on May 17, 2012, 12:00:38 AM
Craig Broon surely?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 17, 2012, 09:20:48 AM
Liverpool fan on TV outside Anfield:

"King Kenny.... problem is you should never go back"
"Is there a manager you'd like to see take the job?"
"rafa"

 ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 17, 2012, 09:29:10 AM
Roberto Martínez    6/4 - No. A third of a good season at Wigan after losing just aboot every game up until March or April is not LFC football club management material.
Rafa Benitez    2/1 - No.
Brendan Rodgers    11/4 - Too big a job too soon. Swansea will go down next season.
Andre Villas-Boas    3/1 - Fuck no. I'd rather re-appoint King Kenny on a 27 year contract.
Fabio Capello    9/1 - No.
Frank Rijkaard    10/1 - No.
Jose Mourinho    14/1 - Yes please.
Josep Guardiola    14/1 - Yes please.
Paul Lambert    14/1 - Good manager but not ready.
Martin O'Neill    16/1 - No.
Louis Van Gaal    16/1 - No.
Claudio Ranieri    16/1 - No.
Carlo Ancelotti    20/1 - No.
Guus Hiddink    20/1 - Yes please.
Harry Redknapp    20/1 - No.
Sami Hyppia    20/1 - No.
Didier Deschamps    20/1 - No.
Marcelo Bielsa    20/1 - No.
Laurent Blanc    25/1 - No.
Steve Nicol    25/1 - No.
Jurgen Klopp    25/1 - Hmmmm.
Gus Poyet    28/1 - No.
Steve Clarke    33/1 - lol.
David Moyes    33/1 - If no other cunt will take it.
Sven Goran Eriksson    33/1 - No.
Roberto Di Matteo    33/1 - No.
Bob Bradley    33/1 - No.
Jurgen Klinsmann    33/1 - No.
Jimmy Calderwood    40/1 - JMG.
Graeme Souness    50/1 - No.
Kevin Keegan    50/1 - I will love it if he doesn't get the job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 17, 2012, 11:30:03 AM
Why on earth wouldn't you want Ancellotti?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 17, 2012, 11:57:05 AM
Or Louis Van Gaal? Or Bielsa? Or Rijkaard? Or O'Neill?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 17, 2012, 01:37:54 PM
No danger klopp would take the step down from Dortmund.  disagree about Martinez too, keeping Wigan in the premier league for more than one season is a great achievement.  Withthe style that they have done it in too, well you have to take your hat of to that.  That said Liverpool fans would probably spit the dummy like they did with hodgson and run it for him from the start.  What is the consensus from the fans?  Are they all bleating for benitez?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 17, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
No danger klopp would take the step down from Dortmund.  disagree about Martinez too, keeping Wigan in the premier league for more than one season is a great achievement.  Withthe style that they have done it in too, well you have to take your hat of to that.  That said Liverpool fans would probably spit the dummy like they did with hodgson and run it for him from the start.  What is the consensus from the fans?  Are they all bleating for benitez?

They're well within their right to voice their opinion on any appointment and by the looks of things those who did speak out against Hodgson weren't wrong, were they? Or is it the fault of the fans that didn't welcome him that he had such a terrible record?  ::)

Some want Rafa back but not me. And I dare say Ancellotti is a decent manage but he doesn't inspire me. Personally I'd pick Mourinho if I could pick anyone.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 17, 2012, 02:22:36 PM
They're well within their right to voice their opinion on any appointment and by the looks of things those who did speak out against Hodgson weren't wrong, were they? Or is it the fault of the fans that didn't welcome him that he had such a terrible record?  ::)

Some want Rafa back but not me. And I dare say Ancellotti is a decent manage but he doesn't inspire me. Personally I'd pick Mourinho if I could pick anyone.
Do you honestly think that the stick Hodgson took from the fans from day one the fans wasn't detrimental to team performances?  He was on a sticky wicket from the start because most were raging at the sacking of Benitez.  With the right backing from the support from the outset Hodgson could have done a good job at Liverpool imo.
I can't see Mourinho going to Anfield though i can absolutely understand why you would want him to.     I think your right about it being a wee bit too soon for rodgers but not convinced they will go down next year with him in charge.  Liverpool need to appoint someone who REALLY knows the EPL, if you could get Moyes to leave Everton and he was given decent financial backing by fsg i think you would be back in the hunt for a champions league spot next season, a cert for a spot the season after and challenging for the title optimistically a year after realistically two to three years after that.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 17, 2012, 02:35:27 PM
martinez and liverpool could be an outstanding combo for the long term.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 17, 2012, 02:40:26 PM
I don't honestly remember there being such outrage at the appointment of Hodgson. Some of my pals that follow LFC were touting him long before he got the job. I was pleased with the appointment myself tbh be honest. I dare say there were those who weren't pleased but I don't think you can blame them for a manager having such a poor win percentage. I and most others agreed that Rafa had to go.

When AFC appointed Broon there were many who disagreed. He's "too old/negative/shite". I don't blame those fans for Broon's poor results. I blame the unbalanced squad, the down right delusional shite spouted by Broon to anyone who'll listen and the baffling and negative tactics for his poor results.

If you're manager of a football club you have to man the fuck up, show strength and prove the doubters wrong. It's your job to shut them up. If the fans that didn't like him caused such shite results then he's not good enough to be in charge anyway. That's how I see it anyway. Look at Pardew. 99% of folk laughed or were devastated (depending on who they supported) when he was given the Newcastle job. Just about every NUFC fan/follower that I know facepalmed. Pardew went about his job and ended up having a storming season and proving them all wrong and shutting them up in the process. Roy getting the boot was his own fault and the correct decision.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 17, 2012, 03:03:25 PM
disagree about Martinez too, keeping Wigan in the premier league for more than one season is a great achievement.  Withthe style that they have done it in too, well you have to take your hat of to that. 

Don't really agree with the sentiment of this to be honest.  His team were getting pumped every week for a long, long time and while it is remarkable they survived with a great run at the end of the season, it took him far too long to realise what his best side was and far more importantly, a very long time to realise what shape suits his side. 

I certainly don't think he's necessarily a bad manager per se, but I certainly don't think he's as great a manager as some make out.  A very good manager would have halted their awful run of form way before he did. Also, had their season been reversed and they'd picked up the majority of their points in the first half of the season instead of the second, there isn't a chance he'd be high up that list.  In fact,  he may not even be on it at all.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 17, 2012, 03:46:14 PM
it wasn't so much that martinez didn't know his best side i don't think. He was fucked by not having players capable of playing his system. Signing Beusejour transformed the team and they were able to start playing the way he wanted.

At a team like pool he could attract some quality and build some great foundations.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 17, 2012, 03:53:46 PM
I don't doubt that Martinez has the potential to be a great manager but I think this particular job has come that bit too soon for him.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 17, 2012, 04:10:58 PM
it wasn't so much that martinez didn't know his best side i don't think. He was fucked by not having players capable of playing his system. Signing Beusejour transformed the team and they were able to start playing the way he wanted.


If you don't have the players to play your system effectively, you use a system that suits the players at your disposal.  Anything else is pigheaded stubborness that could have seen his team relegated.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 17, 2012, 04:51:28 PM
Agree with BB and Tyrant about Martinez. Pulled a colossally bad season from the fire with several, admittedly excellent, results.

7 good games a season might get you a cup, thats what Dalglish got.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 17, 2012, 05:28:58 PM
Don't really agree with the sentiment of this to be honest.  His team were getting pumped every week for a long, long time and while it is remarkable they survived with a great run at the end of the season, it took him far too long to realise what his best side was and far more importantly, a very long time to realise what shape suits his side. 

I certainly don't think he's necessarily a bad manager per se, but I certainly don't think he's as great a manager as some make out.  A very good manager would have halted their awful run of form way before he did. Also, had their season been reversed and they'd picked up the majority of their points in the first half of the season instead of the second, there isn't a chance he'd be high up that list.  In fact,  he may not even be on it at all.
BB i have to disagree, they were never getting pumped every week. http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/Fixtures/0,,10429,00.html 
If you look at their results they have scored in more than two thirds of their games this season.
The thing with Martinez is that he has never changed his philosophy regardless off the league position.  He's all about playing attractive stuff and even when they went on their losing streak he didn't cave  and in quite a few games they were  unlucky to lose.  Yes the real turnaround came when the changed to a 3-4-3  but he deserves credit for that not a 'well he should have done it sooner' mentality.  Also he maintained the dressing room admirably when so many results went against them, there is no point you could look at wigan through the season and think the players were not playing for him.   It seems to me that a big part of the turnaround was getting maloney fit and playing well, he reveled in the responsibility of playmaker and most good things wigan did in the run in went through him.

Overall i think a job like Liverpool is maybe a couple of seasons too soon for him but i do expect Martinez to go far in the game.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 17, 2012, 05:50:49 PM
The only thing it boils down to is that Martinez has achieved what he was tasked with every season he's been a manager. And given the teams we're talking about he's mainly been asked to work miracles.

Whether you think it's too soon is really down to gut feeling. I personally think it's the perfect time for him to make the step up.

Wigan would be fucked.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on May 17, 2012, 06:34:00 PM
Surely a dream team of "Saint Steven" Gerrard and Someone older to guide him? Gordon Strachan?  ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 17, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
BB i have to disagree, they were never getting pumped every week. http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/Fixtures/0,,10429,00.html 
If you look at their results they have scored in more than two thirds of their games this season.
The thing with Martinez is that he has never changed his philosophy regardless off the league position.  He's all about playing attractive stuff and even when they went on their losing streak he didn't cave  and in quite a few games they were  unlucky to lose.  Yes the real turnaround came when the changed to a 3-4-3  but he deserves credit for that not a 'well he should have done it sooner' mentality.  Also he maintained the dressing room admirably when so many results went against them, there is no point you could look at wigan through the season and think the players were not playing for him.   It seems to me that a big part of the turnaround was getting maloney fit and playing well, he reveled in the responsibility of playmaker and most good things wigan did in the run in went through him.

Overall i think a job like Liverpool is maybe a couple of seasons too soon for him but i do expect Martinez to go far in the game.

Deary me man... 9 defeats on the bounce:


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Sat 10      15:00      A    Manchester City      PREM      L       0-3       46,509       League Table     Match Report
Tue 13     20:00     A    Crystal Palace     LGCP     L      1-2      7,649           Match Report
Sat 17     15:00     A    Everton     PREM     L      1-3      31,576      League Table     Match Report
Sat 24     15:00     H    Tottenham     PREM     L      1-2      18,788      League Table     Match Report
October
Sat 1     15:00     A    Aston Villa     PREM     L      0-2      30,744      League Table     Match Report
Sat 15     15:00     H    Bolton     PREM     L      1-3      17,261      League Table     Match Report
Sat 22     15:00     A    Newcastle     PREM     L      0-1      48,321      League Table     Match Report
Sat 29     15:00     H    Fulham     PREM     L      0-2      15,796      League Table     Match Report
November
Sun 6     13:30     A    Wolves     PREM     L      1-3      23,536      League Table     Match Report

and then... one victory in 13

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Mon 26      15:00      A    Man Utd      PREM      L       0-5       75,183       League Table     Match Report
Sat 31     15:00     A    Stoke City     PREM     D      2-2      26,595      League Table     Match Report
January
Tue 3     19:45     H    Sunderland     PREM     L      1-4      15,871      League Table     Match Report
Sat 7     15:00     A    Swindon Town     FACP     L      1-2      13,935           Match Report
Mon 16     20:00     H    Manchester City     PREM     L      0-1      16,026      League Table     Match Report
Sat 21     15:00     A    QPR     PREM     L      1-3      16,002      League Table     Match Report
Tue 31     19:45     A    Tottenham     PREM     L      1-3      35,801      League Table     Match Report
February
Sat 4     15:00     H    Everton     PREM     D      1-1      18,340      League Table     Match Report
Sat 11     15:00     A    Bolton     PREM     W      2-1      23,450      League Table     Match Report
Sat 25     15:00     H    Aston Villa     PREM     D      0-0      20,601      League Table     Match Report
March
Sat 3     15:00     H    Swansea City     PREM     L      0-2      19,001      League Table     Match Report
Sun 11     16:00     A    Norwich City     PREM     D      1-1      26,653      League Table     Match Report
Sat 17     15:00     H    WBA     PREM     D      1-1      21,379      League Table     Match Report

In anyone's book that is shite. They're not a recently promoted club, and i appreciate the lack of funds etc but that is not the sign of a great manager.  Again, turn their season around and ask yourself if you'd be saying the same thing.

Or even better... ask yourself if you'd be saying the same thing if it it happened to be the Dons he had those runs managing.

Those runs prove his side has been more abysmal than anything else and he's the manager, that falls at his feet.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 17, 2012, 07:50:52 PM
Deary me man... 9 defeats on the bounce:


and then... one victory in 13

In anyone's book that is shite. They're not a recently promoted club, and i appreciate the lack of funds etc but that is not the sign of a great manager.  Again, turn their season around and ask yourself if you'd be saying the same thing.

Or even better... ask yourself if you'd be saying the same thing if it it happened to be the Dons he had those runs managing.

Those runs prove his side has been more abysmal than anything else and he's the manager, that falls at his feet.

your points are fair i grant you, my point is that even though they lost those games most of them were pretty close therefore not pumped (i suppose we have may different definitions of what is pumped for me its losing by at least 3 clear goals).

Secondly yes if you flipped the seasons results you would look at it differently.  The big difference is the pressure is on a lot more at the end of a season as opposed to at the beginning.  People are touting him because he handled said pressure really well and by not sacrificing his style of play either.  As for if it was an aberdeen team on a run like that of course i would be asking questions but the clubs are very different in terms of stature vs league competing in.  We are a big team in scotland and pay wages that entitle an expectation to finish in the top 5 at least.   Wigan don't pay a lot in wages compared to virtually every other team in the league. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 17, 2012, 08:05:37 PM
your points are fair i grant you, my point is that even though they lost those games most of them were pretty close therefore not pumped (i suppose we have may different definitions of what is pumped for me its losing by at least 3 clear goals).



Semantics.  I'd say losing 9 on the bounce is a collective pumping.  No offence mate, but that sounds like an excuse offered up by the man in charge of The Dons.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 17, 2012, 08:19:12 PM
Semantics.  I'd say losing 9 on the bounce is a collective pumping.  No offence mate, but that sounds like an excuse offered up by the man in charge of The Dons.

none taken dude  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 17, 2012, 08:39:53 PM
Txiki Begiristain is seemingly Liverpool's new director of football.

Surely to fuck Guardiola isn't going to Liverpool.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 17, 2012, 09:16:10 PM
Txiki Begiristain is seemingly Liverpool's new director of football.

Surely to fuck Guardiola isn't going to Liverpool.

No, but it would seem to guarantee that Mourinho won't be either.

They've knocked back Steve Clark's offer of resignation apparently. Martinez/Clark combo would be a coaching dream team.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 17, 2012, 09:43:25 PM
No, but it would seem to guarantee that Mourinho won't be either.

They've knocked back Steve Clark's offer of resignation apparently. Martinez/Clark combo would be a coaching dream team.

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 17, 2012, 09:48:34 PM
Aston Villa are supposedly going for Solskjaer, Martinez given permission to talk to Liverpool (apologies if that's old)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 17, 2012, 10:06:19 PM
:lolabove:

you feeling ok?

Martinez laid the foundations for Swansea reaching the top-flight then kept a garbage Wigan team up for two years - as I said, has achieved what he's been tasked with in each season in management. He's got as much of a football brain as there is around.

Clarke has been as good an assistant as the EPL has had, and is credited by Mourinho for much of Chelski's success. Though to be fair, what would he know?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 17, 2012, 10:21:29 PM
you feeling ok?

Martinez laid the foundations for Swansea reaching the top-flight then kept a garbage Wigan team up for two years - as I said, has achieved what he's been tasked with in each season in management. He's got as much of a football brain as there is around.

Clarke has been as good an assistant as the EPL has had, and is credited by Mourinho for much of Chelski's success. Though to be fair, what would he know?


Just the use of "Dream Team". Thought you were being ironic.

I agree about Clarke, just think you took it a tad far there though.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 17, 2012, 10:34:25 PM

Just the use of "Dream Team". Thought you were being ironic.

I agree about Clarke, just think you took it a tad far there though.

Fair point. If I wasn't a miserable bastard so much of the time it wouldn't be so noticeable when football makes me jizz in my pants.

My worry is that I might actually enjoy watching liverpool if they appoint Martinez (and bin the racist).
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 17, 2012, 10:44:26 PM
Fair point. If I wasn't a miserable bastard so much of the time it wouldn't be so noticeable when football makes me jizz in my pants.

My worry is that I might actually enjoy watching liverpool if they appoint Martinez (and bin the racist).

I think no matter who takes it, they've got a shit load of restructuring to do and that could take a couple of transfer windows... will they get the time and the money?  They may also not be able to get top dollar for those they require to be binned due to the chronic performances this season... it's a tough job for whoever takes it.  As I said re Martinez, I don't think he's a bad manager just think the jury should still be out, but if he takes the Liverpool job it's sad to say but his rep could go south rather quickly.  Big gamble for club and manager at this stage I'd say.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 17, 2012, 11:25:29 PM
I think no matter who takes it, they've got a shit load of restructuring to do and that could take a couple of transfer windows... will they get the time and the money?  They may also not be able to get top dollar for those they require to be binned due to the chronic performances this season... it's a tough job for whoever takes it.  As I said re Martinez, I don't think he's a bad manager just think the jury should still be out, but if he takes the Liverpool job it's sad to say but his rep could go south rather quickly.  Big gamble for club and manager at this stage I'd say.

Aye the need to rebuild and inability to do it for the various reasons is why liverpool have reminded me of aberdeen the last few years.

that's mainly why I'd be surprised if an older manager took the job on. Martinez for eg could fail, then go back to the level he's at now and have time to rebuild his career.

In terms of the club, the old wise head and the club legend were catastrophies (I'm still talking about pool...) and with the club languishing, the up-and-coming manager is maybe less of a gamble now than it would've been in other years.

Solskjaer to villa would be interesting! guessing lambert will get it but it'd be nice to have ole kicking about.

i reckon young coaches should be like young players. man u could loan ole out to manage someone on a 2 year deal, with a view to him taking over at old trafford...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: CtS on May 17, 2012, 11:29:34 PM

Just the use of "Dream Team". Thought you were being ironic.

I agree about Clarke, just think you took it a tad far there though.

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 18, 2012, 08:16:33 AM
Liverpool have approached Wigan for permission to speak to Martinez according to BBC this morning.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 18, 2012, 08:29:28 AM
 :hammer:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 18, 2012, 09:02:20 AM
Aston Villa are supposedly going for Solskjaer, Martinez given permission to talk to Liverpool (apologies if that's old)


Liverpool have approached Wigan for permission to speak to Martinez according to BBC this morning.

There an echo in here Jute? ;)  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 18, 2012, 01:06:44 PM
Brendan Rodgers turns down the chance to speak to Liverpool.  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: topcorner on May 18, 2012, 01:54:32 PM
Brendan Rodgers turns down the chance to speak to Liverpool.  :wave:

FFS. I put money on him at 20/1
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 21, 2012, 09:42:12 PM
Frank DeBoer saying he has turned chance to talk to Liverpool according to SSN
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 22, 2012, 08:10:26 AM
Frank DeBoer saying he has turned chance to talk to Liverpool according to SSN

Take it you mean turned down? Fine by me. Hun.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 22, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
Take it you mean turned down? Fine by me. Hun.

Yes.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 22, 2012, 02:27:36 PM
Bad news for fans that were looking for the appointment of Jose Mourinho. He's just signed a new four year deal with Madrid.

Aston Villa are said to be disappointed but will now focus their search elsewhere.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 30, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
Bad news for fans that were looking for the appointment of Jose Mourinho. He's just signed a new four year deal with Madrid.

Aston Villa are said to be disappointed but will now focus their search elsewhere.

It's all very well taking the piss out of Villa, but by the sounds of things Martinez has taken the Villa job instead of Liverpool.  Obviously decided to go with the bigger club.  ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 30, 2012, 09:29:34 AM
How is it not clear that I was taking the piss out of Liverpool and not Villa?

If he's chosen Villa than that's perfectly understandable. It's much more his current level of job.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 30, 2012, 04:56:08 PM
Silly liverpool. Silly silly liverpool.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: topcorner on May 30, 2012, 05:03:08 PM
FFS. I put money on him at 20/1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18235961

Fucking yasssss  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 30, 2012, 05:13:51 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18235961

Fucking yasssss  :thumbsup:

Nice one TC :thumbsup:

Your round :beers:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 30, 2012, 05:30:37 PM
Silly liverpool. Silly silly liverpool.

Reputedly an excellent coach but to make such an enormous jump after 1 season in the EPL?

What a big gamble!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 30, 2012, 05:40:22 PM
Good pal of mine is a reading fan, he reckons this will be a disaster as Rodgers success had come at clubs where the set up is in place already. At reading he had 2 do that himself and it didn't work at all.  Huge gamble by fsg, if the two i would have gone martinez every time. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 30, 2012, 05:55:57 PM
Good pal of mine is a reading fan, he reckons this will be a disaster as Rodgers success had come at clubs where the set up is in place already. At reading he had 2 do that himself and it didn't work at all.  Huge gamble by fsg, if the two i would have gone martinez every time.

This is 100% my thinking too. The improvement at reading when McDermott took over was instantaneous. See also Watford.

If Steve Clarke stays I'd see him having much more of a chance but I'd be utterly astonished if this doesn't end in disaster. And I heard £5m to get him from Swansea. Crivvens!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 30, 2012, 06:05:07 PM
And I heard £5m to get him from Swansea. Crivvens!

Aye, hefty release clause.

Either or both of Rodgers and Martinez could very well end up very good managers, they seem to be well thought of coaches but are they really what you would have picked to take on such a huge worldwide club as Liverpool? It is an enormous jump.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 30, 2012, 06:42:46 PM
Aye, hefty release clause.

Either or both of Rodgers and Martinez could very well end up very good managers, they seem to be well thought of coaches but are they really what you would have picked to take on such a huge worldwide club as Liverpool? It is an enormous jump.

Forgive the following diatribe, but it all kind of shows up the current state of management and clubs themselves in imo. My last two cents on the matter.

The bulk of managers could roughly be classed in two categories; serious managers who care about building their team and achieving goals (i.e. O'Neil, Moyes, Guardiola, Craig Brown, Mourinho); and fly-by-nights who are happy just to be taking a pay check and establishing themselves as one of the 'boys' in what is generally an industry full of jobs for the boys (i.e. Ranieri, McLeish, Curbishly*, Big Sam*).

The way Martinez goes about it, he seems like he belongs in the first category - probably walked out on Swansea early but would've been less likely to if it hadn't been Wigan that were in for him, still left Swansea a superb foundation, and he's paid his dues to Wigan considering the 2 years in EPL I don't think many people expected them to be good enough to survive.

Rodgers I could be wrong about but he seems to me more like the second type of character. Whored himself out after a couple of abject failures and then got lucky to land the Swansea job, where his main contribution was replacing the disruptive influence of another fly-by-night in Paulo Sousa.

Sensible then for Martinez to choose Villa, who have a decent core, less primma donnas and lower short-term expectations than Liverpool. Somewhere he'd get time to build.

And sensible for Rodgers to choose pool, who will look good on his CV, ensuring him he'll keep getting jobs no matter what, and who have no CL football in early season, meaning Rodgers will also get more of a grace period than at most 'big' clubs. Somewhere he'd get more time before being sacked.

* At Charlton and Bolton I think these guys were more like the first category, but after that their attitudes seem different about the value of hard work over money.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 30, 2012, 06:58:25 PM
Good post.

The jobs for the boys thing is a very good point and something I've talked about for some time.

Total wastes of time, eg Paul Jewell, Mickey Adams, McLeish, Allardyce, Ranieri (got another fucking gig at Monaco now!!), McClaren et al. Gravy train. The fucking lot of them.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 30, 2012, 07:02:12 PM
Ell eye vee, eee are pee, double o ell, Liverpool FC.

They had their success many decades ago. That's their fill.

Disgusting city full of horrible work-shy minks.

Employing Dalglish was laffably predictable.

They deserve what's coming, a massive decline into the nether regions of football nothingness.

We, on the other hand, declined into football nothingness without just cause.

Our fans are North east and therefore high on integrity.

Hud on.

We got hijacked by a cunt who wore wigs.

AFC deserves what it gets. We failed to deal with the cancerous wee cunt.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 30, 2012, 07:04:38 PM
Ell eye vee, eee are pee, double o ell, Liverpool FC.

They had their success many decades ago. That's their fill.

Disgusting city full of horrible work-shy minks.

Employing Dalglish was laffably predictable.

They deserve what's coming, a massive decline into the nether regions of football nothingness.

We, on the other hand, declined into football nothingness without just cause.

Our fans are North east and therefore high on integrity.

Hud on.

We got hijacked by a cunt who wore wigs.

AFC deserves what it gets. We failed to deal with the cancerous wee cunt.

Burst open next weeks prescription already R_S?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 30, 2012, 07:08:39 PM
Burst open next weeks prescription already R_S?
My medication is constant and unwavering.

Positivity, integrity and clarity.

I sell it in bottles to people whom it doesn't affect.

Nothing to do with the dirt-cheap placebo-esque nature of my ingredients.

They're so stupid to appreciate the power of the mind.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 30, 2012, 07:21:22 PM
Burst open next weeks prescription already R_S?

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on May 30, 2012, 10:56:04 PM
Forgive the following diatribe, but it all kind of shows up the current state of management and clubs themselves in imo. My last two cents on the matter.

The bulk of managers could roughly be classed in two categories; serious managers who care about building their team and achieving goals (i.e. O'Neil, Moyes, Guardiola, Craig Brown, Mourinho); and fly-by-nights who are happy just to be taking a pay check and establishing themselves as one of the 'boys' in what is generally an industry full of jobs for the boys (i.e. Ranieri, McLeish, Curbishly*, Big Sam*).

The way Martinez goes about it, he seems like he belongs in the first category - probably walked out on Swansea early but would've been less likely to if it hadn't been Wigan that were in for him, still left Swansea a superb foundation, and he's paid his dues to Wigan considering the 2 years in EPL I don't think many people expected them to be good enough to survive.

Rodgers I could be wrong about but he seems to me more like the second type of character. Whored himself out after a couple of abject failures and then got lucky to land the Swansea job, where his main contribution was replacing the disruptive influence of another fly-by-night in Paulo Sousa.

Sensible then for Martinez to choose Villa, who have a decent core, less primma donnas and lower short-term expectations than Liverpool. Somewhere he'd get time to build.

And sensible for Rodgers to choose pool, who will look good on his CV, ensuring him he'll keep getting jobs no matter what, and who have no CL football in early season, meaning Rodgers will also get more of a grace period than at most 'big' clubs. Somewhere he'd get more time before being sacked.

* At Charlton and Bolton I think these guys were more like the first category, but after that their attitudes seem different about the value of hard work over money.

My former mole in the Villa camp insists the players were a shower of fucking cunts.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 31, 2012, 08:11:28 AM
Lambert has allegedly walked away from Norwich.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 31, 2012, 08:27:51 AM
Louis Van Gaal is needed at Liverpool before Rodgers has a hope of success.

Not happy with this appointment at all. Hope he proves me wrong like.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 31, 2012, 09:09:34 AM
Louis Van Gaal is needed at Liverpool before Rodgers has a hope of success.

Not happy with this appointment at all. Hope he proves me wrong like.

Liverpool jumping in too early again. see also; Henderson, Jordan and Carroll, Andy.

Lambert has allegedly walked away from Norwich.

I had hoped Lambert would stay at Norwich for another season.  If he had managed to keep them up when the second season is notoriously difficult for recently promoted teams, then I think he really would have cemented his standing and would probably have a better choice of jobs than Villa. They are on a downward spiral with a rather mundane squad and an owner who no longer seems that keen on spending money on it.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on June 07, 2012, 10:28:15 AM
Steve Clarkey cat seemingly favourite for the WBA job after leaving pool last night.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on June 07, 2012, 11:13:56 AM
I think thats a bad move for both WBA and Clark.

Some folk are just meant to be assistants. Good ones, but assistants nonetheless.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 07, 2012, 11:55:03 AM
Agreed funster, I just dont think he's cut out for the no.1 spot.

I also read Hughton going to Norwich, would be a very shrewd appointment by them imo. Always liked him and hasn't done badly since getting binned by the barcodes.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on June 07, 2012, 01:26:39 PM
I read Clarke as Head Coach so presumably a DoF to come in above, in a reasonably active role?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on June 11, 2012, 02:33:52 AM
Di Matteo expected to be the new Chelsea boss.  Abramovich in sane choice shocker
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on June 11, 2012, 10:59:16 PM
Di Matteo expected to be the new Chelsea boss.  Abramovich in sane choicenot managing to get Pep shocker
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on June 12, 2012, 12:09:25 AM
fair point dave
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on June 13, 2012, 03:19:09 AM
Redknapp about to get his jotters?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/12/harry-redknapp-tottenham

Any woman worth their salt would drop you in a flash if you oggled another woman as blatantly as he did the England job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 13, 2012, 08:35:42 AM
How the tables have turned for Mr. Redknapp!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 13, 2012, 02:49:27 PM
Has there been anymore on this today? What a fud!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on June 13, 2012, 10:11:24 PM
SSN claiming Redknapp gone.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 13, 2012, 10:18:31 PM
Hope they come in for Rodgers.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on June 13, 2012, 10:32:49 PM
Moyes 4/6 favourite according to SSN.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on June 13, 2012, 10:37:58 PM
I've heard Calderwood's name being mentioned.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: bloo_toon_red on June 13, 2012, 11:26:19 PM
Moyes 4/6 favourite according to SSN.
That's some ridiculous odds.  1/3 on SkyBet just now.  Would be a bad move for him I'd say.
AVB, Capello & Benitez all linked.  Frank Rijkaard could be a good outside bet.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 14, 2012, 08:17:51 AM
I've heard Calderwood's name being mentioned.


Same here. By Stewart on Twitter.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on June 14, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Bilic is at surprisingly long odds. Was he not in discussions at the same time of Redknapps appointment and linked again while they were on their bad run earlier this year?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: bloo_toon_red on June 14, 2012, 11:45:50 AM
Bilic already has gig at lokomotiv Moscow.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on June 14, 2012, 11:47:11 AM
Redknapp just been spotted at Glasgow airport.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scunnered999 on June 14, 2012, 12:27:34 PM
Redknapp just been spotted at Glasgow airport.

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nellie The Don on June 14, 2012, 12:44:21 PM
Redknapp just been spotted at Glasgow airport.

He was up meeting with his tax lawyer.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on June 14, 2012, 01:11:09 PM
Redknapp got a £3m pay off from Spurs.
So after tax that's approximately £3m.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on June 14, 2012, 01:13:05 PM
Cant help but be a little excited by the prospect of moyes at spurs
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nellie The Don on June 14, 2012, 02:09:04 PM
Redknapp got a £3m pay off from Spurs.
So after tax that's approximately £3m.

 :lolabove:

Nicked.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on September 28, 2012, 07:38:43 PM
Steve Kean "resigns" as Blackburn manager. Were they not actually doing well this season?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on September 29, 2012, 10:03:26 AM
The timing of this seems postively bizarre.
To have survived all the shit thrown at him last season, have them sitting third in Championship, and then allegedly resign doesn't sound right. Think it'll be more a case of forced to resign I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on September 29, 2012, 10:06:55 AM
The timing of this seems postively bizarre.
To have survived all the shit thrown at him last season, have them sitting third in Championship, and then allegedly resign doesn't sound right. Think it'll be more a case of forced to resign I'd imagine.

Saying this morning that he was forced out.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on October 01, 2012, 08:44:17 AM
Apparently Venky's didn't want him to leave. Would make sense since they were doing well this season. I've got only respect for Steve Kean. Been treated pretty horribly and showed class throughout. If not an amazing manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on October 01, 2012, 10:42:28 AM
fuck him. weegie faker.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on October 01, 2012, 11:09:24 AM
the drop in attendances was unsustainable for a club with the wage bill the size of blackburn.  Talking of giving the job to shearer which i have no issue with if it keeps him and his appalling punditry off the beeb
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on October 01, 2012, 08:56:27 PM
Mark Hughes looks to be the next one oot the door!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 02, 2012, 08:42:07 AM
Mark Hughes looks to be the next one oot the door!

Genuinely surprised at how badly he's doing there. Must be getting a bit nervous now.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 09, 2012, 11:38:47 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19869286 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19869286)

Coyle gone
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on October 24, 2012, 05:58:00 PM
Quote
Hartlepool United first-team coach Neale Cooper has resigned 10 months into his second spell at the club.

Tuesday's 2-1 loss at Bury sent United bottom of League One and extended their run of games without a win to 12.

Cooper, who was also Pools boss between 2003 and 2005, won only seven of his 40 games in his second spell in charge.

"The club wishes to thank Neale for his commitment and dedication, and wishes him every success in his return to Scotland," a club statement read.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on October 24, 2012, 08:42:40 PM
Scotland manager material?
Experience in engerland?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on October 26, 2012, 12:59:03 PM
Dumbarton have been inundated with applications for their managerial vacancy, but chief executive Gilbert Lawrie says 75% of them come from computer football management game geeks.
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[/size] :lolabove: [/color]
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgow sheep on October 26, 2012, 01:00:44 PM
Where in England is Dumbarton
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on October 26, 2012, 07:21:19 PM
Where in England is Dumbarton

Anything south of Stonehaven is the general rule of thumb  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on October 26, 2012, 07:33:08 PM
Clicked the wrong thread and didn't check the text was formatted. This while at work, sub-editing shite. Yaaasss!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on November 21, 2012, 09:20:28 AM
Di Matteo  :wave:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on November 21, 2012, 09:23:31 AM
Di Matteo sacked.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20423905
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on November 21, 2012, 09:26:50 AM
Really hope Guardiola doesn't turn out to be a cunt.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 21, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
That is my fear Baggy.


Didn't he mention that he would like to England and manage in London a while back?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on November 21, 2012, 10:47:11 AM
But he's only been on his year long holiday for 6 months.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on November 21, 2012, 11:28:00 AM
I've been hearing that it will be Harry Redknapp.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on November 21, 2012, 07:39:28 PM
Benitez appointed until the end of the season.

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270072_3806303968226_94168720_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on November 21, 2012, 07:49:09 PM
Excellent!!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on November 22, 2012, 12:14:27 AM
So no Rafa for Scotland then?

(Like it was ever likely)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on November 22, 2012, 08:08:44 AM
Excellent!!

I actually think he's a pretty decent manager.
Could be a disaster though as I don't think Chelsea fans are taking to him, maybe got something to do with one of his older quotes:

''We don't need to give away stupid plastic flags to our fans to wave, our supporters are always there with their hearts and that is all we need. Its the passion of the fans that helps us to win matches, not flags. Chelsea fans lack passion."
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on November 22, 2012, 01:02:28 PM
I actually think he's a pretty decent manager.
Could be a disaster though as I don't think Chelsea fans are taking to him, maybe got something to do with one of his older quotes:

''We don't need to give away stupid plastic flags to our fans to wave, our supporters are always there with their hearts and that is all we need. Its the passion of the fans that helps us to win matches, not flags. Chelsea fans lack passion."

It was still completely true though.

I'm not sure baout this. I think it could be a good appointment. Truth is you never know what you get with Rafa but he's capable, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on November 22, 2012, 03:50:36 PM
very sound business move. Rafa's the only person who could come in and rescue Torres. If it doesn't work then Torres goes in the Summer and Abramovich doesn't have to pay compo to change manager for once. if it does, maybe he still sells Torres but makes a lot more of his money back, and doesn't pay compo to change manager for once.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on November 22, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
So do I Kow, I thought the pic was excellent. See how he goes though.

Seems like the most unpopular caretaker since Ian Huntley.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on November 22, 2012, 06:05:36 PM
So do I Kow, I thought the pic was excellent. See how he goes though.

Seems like the most unpopular caretaker since Ian Huntley.

 :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 22, 2012, 07:13:21 PM
Haha that's a belter funster!  :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on November 23, 2012, 11:15:02 AM
Hughes gone.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on November 23, 2012, 03:49:17 PM
Cue "Hughes for Scotland" nonsense  ::)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on November 23, 2012, 03:56:21 PM
Hughes for Scotland.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on November 23, 2012, 08:16:10 PM
Nonsense!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on November 23, 2012, 08:22:33 PM
Cue "Hughes for Scotland" nonsense nonsense  ::)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nellie The Don on November 23, 2012, 08:45:05 PM
Cues for Scotland.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on November 23, 2012, 09:48:03 PM
queues for Scotland? Nae chunce.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nellie The Don on November 23, 2012, 10:10:47 PM
On cue: "Nae chunce for Scotland"
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on November 23, 2012, 11:20:55 PM
You're all talking nonce sense.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dandy on November 24, 2012, 10:47:29 AM
Gone already? Thought he only joined them from Livi last week?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on November 28, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
Woy been on the Christmas spirit already?
Or pandering to little-england?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20532014 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20532014)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 28, 2012, 11:30:21 PM
Well tbf, if England qualify, they have more of a chance than not.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on November 28, 2012, 11:45:01 PM
Not certain I agree with that Manc. You can qualify for major tournaments and still have less than no chance of winning them.


You either need at least world class players down the spine of the team, or a tactically astute manager and a group of players willing to work their arses off to achieve something that no one thought they could.


England have a tactically astute manager but a group of players who think they are world class.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 29, 2012, 09:09:16 AM
Thats very true Baggy, but I guess I wasn't really referring to that, it was more of the fact that you have a chance if you qualify.  How realistic that chance actually is or not (as you quite rightly point out) is another thing.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 03, 2012, 09:16:09 AM
Quote
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich could offer a consultative role to former caretaker boss Avram Grant if current interim manager Rafael Benitez continues to struggle at Stamford Bridge. Grant's Chelsea side were beaten by Manchester United in the 2007-08 Champions League final.  Grant, who took the Blues to the Champions League final in 2008, is being considered as a replacement for Benitez.[/size]



You couldn't make it up :D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on December 10, 2012, 06:52:46 PM
Doesn't look like all is going well for McGhee:
http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Bristol-Rovers-start-winning-supporters-lose/story-17263482-detail/story.html
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nellie The Don on December 11, 2012, 07:51:09 AM
Doesn't look like all is going well for McGhee:
http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Bristol-Rovers-start-winning-supporters-lose/story-17263482-detail/story.html (http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Bristol-Rovers-start-winning-supporters-lose/story-17263482-detail/story.html)


How the fuck did he ever land another management job after us?

Bristol must have been pretty desperate.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on December 11, 2012, 01:28:25 PM
Y'know, Wikipeia.
Y'know.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on December 11, 2012, 02:30:26 PM
Great player for us. Disaster of a fucking manager for everyone apart from Motherwell. And even for them he wasn't that good. That is all.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on December 11, 2012, 02:32:07 PM
Was he nae decent at Brighton inaw?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on December 11, 2012, 04:14:54 PM
I don't know. I'd have to check Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on December 13, 2012, 11:02:38 AM
I went to Rovers away in October. No pies at half time and no wonder Adam Virgo had obviously eaten them all. Him and Kenneth will be the most immobile defence in next seasons Vauxhall conference. McGhee couldn't have happened to a nicer club. As the Rovers fans might sing "Fuck off Rovers you 'orrible cunts"
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on December 15, 2012, 06:25:38 PM
Mr Wikipedia has been given the dunt.


(http://www.epigram.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/mark-mcghee.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on December 15, 2012, 06:26:59 PM
Y'know, I could, y'know see that, y'know, coming.
 
Y'know.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on December 17, 2012, 03:51:17 PM

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Profile-sacked-Bristol-Rovers-manager-Mark-McGhee/story-17609632-detail/story.html

"The former professional football [/size]player, who enjoyed an illustrious career before moving into management"
[/size]
[/size]ouch
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on December 17, 2012, 04:12:44 PM
Well you can't argue with that statement.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on December 17, 2012, 05:16:33 PM
Well you can't argue with that statement.

or even cut and paste it properly...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on December 27, 2012, 10:10:01 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20679610


Henning Berg given the dunt.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 27, 2012, 10:41:48 AM
And O'Driscoll from Forest!  The world is mad, 1 point off the play-off's and daft arab owners decide to give him the dunt. Well played.


Quote
"He can count himself unlucky to have lost his job with the team just one point away from the top six," Forest chairman Fawaz Al Hasawi said
.


Fud. Especially after putting 4 past Dirty leeds.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on December 27, 2012, 10:55:23 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20679610 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20679610)


Henning Berg given the dunt.

Frees up Eric Black for the Dons job in the summer.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 27, 2012, 11:19:47 AM
I'd love it, but worried about ruining another legend :(
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on December 27, 2012, 03:45:29 PM
Still, Berg got longer than Clough at Leeds!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on December 27, 2012, 04:58:56 PM
Blackburn deserve all that befalls them.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on December 28, 2012, 08:58:03 AM
Quote
Alex McLeish has been appointed the new manager of Nottingham Forest.

The 53-year-old former Aston Villa, Birmingham and Scotland boss replaces Sean O'Driscoll, who was sacked on 26 December after five months in charge.

"I believe he's the man who can help us fulfil our ambition of making it to the Premier League," said Forest chairman Fawaz Al Hasawi.

McLeish said: "The fact a club of Forest's magnitude has offered me a job excites me greatly."
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on December 28, 2012, 03:10:46 PM
Presumably we now know where Ryan Fraser will be going.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dave_min on December 28, 2012, 04:24:31 PM
There's no chance of Fraser going to Forest.

Zero.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: bloo_toon_red on January 03, 2013, 01:11:10 PM
Does anyone follow Simon Kuper on Twitter?

Something he mentioned as part of his Soccernomics book I think, relating to football managers who were top footballers actually making very poor managers (with rare exceptions like Guardiola & Cruyff), but football club chairmen having continuous mental blocks when it comes to this.

Alex McLeish, in the bigger scheme of things, actually did quite well as manager of Rangers winning the same amount of trophies as Sir Martin of Celtic.  But that shouldn't count for much in an uncompetitive league.  He's done pretty much pap-all else, I don't really understand what he has done in a managerial context (especially in England) to merit being considered a good manager.  He got Hibs and Birmingham promoted, but Hibs were always going to be too big for SFL1 and Birmingham had to go back up with a big EPL parachute payment.

Henning Berg got the Blackburn job not because he was a good coach, but because he was a Blackburn legend.

Who have been the best managers in England over the past 20 years?  Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, David Moyes, Rafa Benitez? Roy Hodgson? Harry Redknapp?  None of whom had glittering playing careers.  At another end of the scale you have managers who'll do a specific task (ie win promotion), like Neil Warnock, Mick McCarthy, Steve Bruce all having won promotions with 2 or more clubs, the latter two admittedly had good playing careers but maybe the moral to the tale is that good players are better suited to this level.  Cardiff almost dead certs to go up, but Bruce's Hull are a good bet, and I wouldn't at all write off Warnock's Leeds joining them.

Blackburn have put themselves in a very bad position.  By staying loyal to Kean for so long, the appointment of someone such as Berg to appease the fans was one that probably had to be made for their (Venky's) own sakes.  Blackburn now really need a Steve Bruce, a Neil Warnock or a Mick McCarthy.  They wont win you trophies or get you in to Europe, but they'll do a grand job of getting you out of that division.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgow sheep on January 05, 2013, 11:52:57 PM
Wolves have sacked their manager. Now normally i couldnae gie a fuck but will this make it more or less likely that that rat Griffiths is at Hibs come Scottish Cup day?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on January 06, 2013, 12:12:51 AM
i'd tentatively suggest less. The new boss will hopefully look at his good scoring record thus far and think he needs to keep a guy like that around for a bit to get a proper look at him. then if he wants to get him out the door from feb onwards he can loan him in england (i think?).
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 06, 2013, 01:17:49 AM
Unlikely to make much difference.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 06, 2013, 03:24:17 AM
surprised wolves gave him as much time as they did. Seemed destined to fail.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on January 07, 2013, 09:28:02 AM
surprised wolves gave him as much time as they did. Seemed destined to fail.


At no point was it a good appointment.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on January 07, 2013, 01:13:36 PM
They must be really regretting sacking Mcarthy
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on January 12, 2013, 08:12:40 PM
Bristol City sack McInnes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21001780
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 16, 2013, 05:38:46 PM
Can't be arsed with a new thread but I bet Man City and Chelsea are delighted to hear that Guardiola is off to Bayern Munich  :rofl:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: bloo_toon_red on January 16, 2013, 05:48:55 PM
Great move, really honestly a great move.  In my opinion the only places he could've gone to without stepping down were Bayern & Manchester Utd.  Bayern are a force that need to be up there with the Barcas, the Real Madrids and the Manchester Utds.

Will he bring the tiki-taka to Bayern?  He's already got a pretty good squad, but it would need pretty major surgery to get the personnel to play that style.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on January 16, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
agree btr, although i wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at man city in a few years - assuming they keep developing their facilities and don't start trying to cash in on the players.


but bayern definitely is the most logical club. will be fascinating to see how he does.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on January 16, 2013, 07:28:14 PM
He's going to have to adapt his style a bit to the german league for sure.  Looking forward to seeing how he gets on, his achievements at Barca are obviously phenomenal but the club was geared to suit him from the off, he knew it inside out and was fortunate to take over as messi started to bear fruit.  Would have loved to have seen Roman's face when he found out............ :rofl:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 16, 2013, 07:45:24 PM
Big lol at Chelsea :D
 
I'm surprised by his decision but will be looking with great interest to see how he gets on. Definitely one of the few clubs he could / should have gone to and it will be nice to see them hopefully climb to where they belong.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on January 18, 2013, 12:26:45 PM
Adkins sacked from Southampton. Baffling IMO.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scunnered999 on January 18, 2013, 12:31:13 PM
Don't understand that one at all...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on January 18, 2013, 01:02:35 PM
Unless they want Mourinho signed up before the likes of ManU get him?  ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on January 18, 2013, 01:10:56 PM
Adkins sacked from Southampton. Baffling IMO.

Very odd. Especially as they are rumoured to be appointing ex Espanyol coach who was sacked by them in Novemeber following a string of terrible results.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on January 18, 2013, 01:14:28 PM
I can't remember a time when football had it's head this far up its own arse. The way some owners are behaving is a total embarrassment
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 18, 2013, 02:29:44 PM
Too many foreign owners without a fucking clue.  Adkins being sacked is completely illogical, especially given their recent results?!?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on January 18, 2013, 03:25:57 PM
Its fucking loony tunes Manc
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on January 18, 2013, 03:47:02 PM
Southampton a stick on to be relegated now.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on February 05, 2013, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: Kowalski
Quote
Alex McLeish has been appointed the new manager of Nottingham Forest.The 53-year-old former Aston Villa, Birmingham and Scotland boss replaces Sean O'Driscoll, who was sacked on 26 December after five months in charge."I believe he's the man who can help us fulfil our ambition of making it to the Premier League," said Forest chairman Fawaz Al Hasawi.McLeish said: "The fact a club of Forest's magnitude has offered me a job excites me greatly."


gone.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 08, 2013, 08:51:09 AM
Can't say I'm not a bit disappointed by this, hopefully he'll be sacked by the time CB's contract is up....


Nottingham Forest chairman Fawaz Al Hasawi says that his decision to name Billy Davies, 48, as the club's fourth manager in seven months does not mean he is an interfering owner.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 28, 2013, 09:01:01 AM
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot here!  I no way in any way shape or form condone how the Chelsea cunts have behaved but surely Benitez is better than this (although from his time at Liverpool it makes sense).


I would be very surprised if he was there on Saturday.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21611064
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on February 28, 2013, 09:26:29 AM
He'll no be caring but its another "Bene loses it".

Not exactly a good advert for getting another job is it?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on February 28, 2013, 09:48:36 AM
Feel a bit sorry for him, he's a decent manager and the fans should have done more to get behind him.  He seems to have lost it a little though.

He'll end up back in Spain, possibly Real Madrid.

Perhaps Chelsea are going to lure Mourinho back.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 28, 2013, 10:37:53 AM
Feel a bit sorry for him, he's a decent manager and the fans should have done more to get behind him.  He seems to have lost it a little though.

He'll end up back in Spain, possibly Real Madrid.

Perhaps Chelsea are going to lure Mourinho back.



I do and I don't, he chose to take the job knowing full well that the fans would not take to him.  That said, they never once got behind him, but they are huns / cunts so i'm not surprised.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on February 28, 2013, 11:06:06 AM

I do and I don't, he chose to take the job knowing full well that the fans would not take to him.  That said, they never once got behind him, but they are huns / cunts so i'm not surprised.

Pretty much all of this. Doesn't look like he copes well with adverse pressure. SAF had him on toast.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on February 28, 2013, 01:15:50 PM
Been treated shockingly by the entire club.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 11, 2013, 10:04:06 PM
Reading have sacked their manager this evening. Bit harsh if you ask me but I suppose they don't have a paper thin squad.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on March 12, 2013, 08:11:48 AM
i like BMcD. Think he's a good manager but probably this season was a bit soon for him going into EPL. Wouldn't be surprised if it motivates a championship chairman to give someone the bullet fairly soon.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on March 12, 2013, 08:43:05 AM
i like BMcD. Think he's a good manager but probably this season was a bit soon for him going into EPL. Wouldn't be surprised if it motivates a championship chairman to give someone the bullet fairly soon.

Yip, this, seems like a decent manager.

Pretty predictable turn of events though, as soon as he had a bad run he was going to be out on his hole, new owner and all that.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on March 12, 2013, 09:37:39 AM
Reading have sacked their manager this evening. Bit harsh if you ask me but I suppose they don't have a paper thin squad.

Think the treatment of both McDermott and the ex Southampton manager typify what is wrong in football nowadays. Taken an unfashionable club into England's top divison and punted during the season. The goal for these guys was always going to be no lower than 17th position come end of the season. Should at least have been given the courtesy to see that through. Hope they get relegated now.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on March 12, 2013, 03:36:04 PM
There are managers out there who seem to have a knack of getting teams out of the Championship yet maybe aren't quite as good at keeping teams in the EPL.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on March 12, 2013, 05:06:49 PM
There are managers out there who seem to have a knack of getting teams out of the Championship yet maybe aren't quite as good at keeping teams in the EPL.



Hear what your saying brother BUT it is a big step up coming from the Championship to EPL. I'm not convinced that unfashionable teams like Reading, Southampton and prior to them others like Blackpool are ever going to make inroads. I merely think that your McDermotts of the world deserved to see the season through. I'd hazard a guess that Reading would have been most folks banker to get relegated anyway, so surely wouldn't have been a massive shock if they were.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on March 12, 2013, 07:14:51 PM
Unfortunately, especially for foreign owners, the crazy money in/being thrown at the EPL (5 billion due to come in over three years or something like that) makes it absolutely essential that they try everything in their power to stay in the EPL. This means that managers such as Adkins and McDermott will always be favourites for the sack despite what they have already achieved. With only 10 games to go, I can't really see the sense in sacking McDermott.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on March 13, 2013, 11:44:39 AM
Interesting article
 
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/the-rundown/seven-premier-league-bosses-suffered-same-brutal-sacking-183724944.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/the-rundown/seven-premier-league-bosses-suffered-same-brutal-sacking-183724944.html)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on March 25, 2013, 09:54:51 AM
Sturrock punted fae Southend.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on March 25, 2013, 10:15:13 AM
Sturrock punted fae Southend.

Ah fuck, if only we'd waited
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 25, 2013, 10:21:56 AM

Ah fuck, if only we'd waited


Thank fuck for that!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on March 25, 2013, 11:01:55 AM
I'd take him in an irregular heartbeat
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on March 25, 2013, 11:38:18 AM
I'd take him in an irregular heartbeat

Guess you wouldn't need to worry about when your next attack is coming  ;)
 
P.S for the avoidance of any doubt, my original comment was firmly tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 30, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
Martin O'Neil has left Sunderland  :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on March 31, 2013, 10:01:39 AM
Martin O'Neil has left Sunderland  :o

They weren't exactly doing well but sacking somebody after getting beat by Man U!  ???
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 31, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
Yeah that was more my point. It was hardly a winnable game when you're in the mire. From reading a few comments elsewhere Sunderland have been absolutely atrocious, just didn't seem to work out there. The boring one on motd made a good point though, first time he's not had his usual assistant alongside him at a club.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on March 31, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
ONeil's record at Sunderland is pretty poor especially given squad he has there. Was down there a few weeks ago and team looked all over the place.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on March 31, 2013, 11:41:05 AM
first time he's not had his usual assistant alongside him at a club.

Yeah, fucking shiteloads of money.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on March 31, 2013, 12:12:11 PM
SSN suggesting Sunderland board are already talking to replacement so sounds like he was going this weekend no mater what.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 31, 2013, 12:14:05 PM
SSN suggesting Sunderland board are already talking to replacement so sounds like he was going this weekend no mater what.

Aye, MOTD hinted at that last night.  Next 3-4 days is when they are reportedly  going to announce his successor.

Valid point TF :D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on March 31, 2013, 07:26:08 PM
Paolo Di Canio!  Are Sunderland mental?  :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 31, 2013, 10:08:38 PM
Quite clearly. I see Miliband has stood down as a director there because of hid political leanings.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on April 01, 2013, 02:28:06 AM
Yeah, a union withdrew sponsorship from Swindon Town when he got the gig there too.

No doubt he's mental but you get the impression he's a pretty objectionable cunt too.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on April 01, 2013, 08:15:42 AM
Sunderland must want relegated. I see shirt sponsor also not happy with the appointment of Di Canio. I can see why they got rid of ONeil but to replace him with this nutter is insane.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on April 02, 2013, 09:26:51 AM
I've got nothing against Sunderland but I'll look forward to seeing them implode.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on April 02, 2013, 10:10:54 AM
It's a fucking circus already:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21999563

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on April 02, 2013, 10:13:16 AM
I've got nothing against Sunderland but I'll look forward to seeing them implode.

Whereas I have everything against the minky Mackem fuckers and look forward to the trap doors opening and relegation back to the Chumpionship. Going to be some atmosphere at St James Park in a couple of weeks ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: glasgow sheep on April 02, 2013, 01:23:04 PM
So Milliband supported the Iraq war but doesn't support a mental Italian.
Ok just so we know where he draws the line.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on April 02, 2013, 08:21:54 PM

Whereas I have everything against the minky Mackem fuckers and look forward to the trap doors opening and relegation back to the Chumpionship. Going to be some atmosphere at St James Park in a couple of weeks ;)

Aye, the Championship season opener next season will be a beauty!!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on May 11, 2013, 10:36:03 AM
I've been pondering this question for a few months now and I was wondering if anyone can answer. Why does Roberto Martinez get linked with nearly every bigger job that comes along? Aston Villa, Liverpool, Everton and maybe even Chelsea?!
 
He's done the square root of f all! Apart from keeping Wigan in the Premier League, they escape it by the skin of their teeth although I do think their time is up this season. Is it because he has a so called attractive style of football? Even so, he's not gotten very far with this style of football has he. Aye it comes down to finances etc but at the end of the day, Wigan haven't progressed foward under him. Achieving the bare minimum of staying in the league. He talks a good game and is good in front of the cameras but that doesn't make you a good manager.
 
Please can someone enlighten me....
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 11, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
Survival in the EPL for the likes of Wigan is pretty much the equivalent of winning the title.

"Success" is relative. Moyes has won nothing for example.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 21, 2013, 04:35:53 PM
Tony Pullis punted from Stoke
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 22, 2013, 07:12:16 AM
Will be interesting to see what direction they go now, in terms of style of play. Thought they were very well suited tbh be honest. Both very pikey.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on May 22, 2013, 08:18:35 AM
Stoke were 13th in the EPL and he gets punted? Do they expect them to be challenging for Europe with the team they have? Weird.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 22, 2013, 08:26:11 AM
Stoke were 13th in the EPL and he gets punted? Do they expect them to be challenging for Europe with the team they have? Weird.

Pretty much sums up what is wrong with the Premiership.
A team like Stoke finishing mid table is an achievement in my eyes.
Expectation levels are rediculous at some of these clubs.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 22, 2013, 08:32:13 AM

Pretty much sums up what is wrong with the Premiership.
A team like Stoke finishing mid table is an achievement in my eyes.
Expectation levels are rediculous at some of these clubs.


That's what our board says about us and we're all up in arms about being criticized for being ambitious. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 22, 2013, 08:42:37 AM

That's what our board says about us and we're all up in arms about being criticized for being ambitious. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Hear what you're saying but don't necessarily agree.
We are a bigger club in the context of our league, than Stoke are in theirs.
Accordingly I don't think our expectation levels are too high in Scotland.
Most supporters I know would be happy with top three or four year after year and the odd cup win. Given the lebghty list of those club's to have won either League or Scottish Cup since our last trophy, I seriously don't think that is unreasonable expectation.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 22, 2013, 11:19:39 AM
Think Pulis took Stoke as far as he could have. The signings were starting to get fairly ropey so probably suits both to call it quits.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on May 22, 2013, 03:45:42 PM
And get where? Better than 13th?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on May 22, 2013, 03:50:18 PM
They will go down next year. Or close.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: maverick sheep on May 22, 2013, 04:18:39 PM
the way they look like going with pulis they wouldn't get close to 13th next year. their form is honking. one of the rare occasions i believe when a club says 'mutual termination'.


as is, he'll get the first job that comes up next year.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on May 22, 2013, 04:39:27 PM
I thought that a few years ago. I thought they would be up then down. He has kept them not only in the EPL but mid table. And in an FA cup final. Not bad with a shit team.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 22, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
I thought that a few years ago. I thought they would be up then down. He has kept them not only in the EPL but mid table. And in an FA cup final. Not bad with a shit team.


They were horrible to watch and personally I think it was time.  There seemed to be a lot of discontent surrounding him / the club this season.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on May 22, 2013, 09:38:10 PM
I thought that a few years ago. I thought they would be up then down. He has kept them not only in the EPL but mid table. And in an FA cup final. Not bad with a shit team.

For a team that is only behind Man City and Chelsea in the spending table, aye they should be doing/have done better. He has taken them as far as he can and he has now left before he the bullet. Leaves with his head high and his stock. Now Stoke can maybe take a different route with a different style of play and Pulis can look for a job with his reputation intact. Good move for both parties IMO. A lot of fighting behind the scenes I think.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on May 23, 2013, 02:18:10 AM
Mourinho to Stoke?  :rofl:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on May 23, 2013, 07:25:30 AM
Stoke relegated next season.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 23, 2013, 08:32:45 AM
Stoke relegated next season.

Hopefully.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 27, 2013, 08:42:01 PM
Benitez is napolis new manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on June 18, 2013, 12:12:13 PM
Looks like it might be time for some popcorn and a deck chair:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jun/18/joe-kinnear-newcastle-united-interview
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on June 18, 2013, 12:17:50 PM
High-larious appointment!!

Strap yourselves in!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on June 18, 2013, 01:14:40 PM
Very interesting that Newcastle have still to confirm the appointment.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on June 18, 2013, 01:15:40 PM
Very interesting that Newcastle have still to confirm the appointment.

It's confirmed now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22954309
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on June 18, 2013, 01:19:13 PM
It's confirmed now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22954309 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22954309)

Wonder how long before he resigns due to ill health.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 18, 2013, 01:20:36 PM
That interview was hilarious! Ready the ROFLcopter BigAl :D  :rofl:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 18, 2013, 04:00:06 PM
He's clearly a thick cunt and struggles with basic pronunciation but other than that I thought it was fair enough?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 18, 2013, 04:13:20 PM
Having said that... Wtf the fuck is Mike Ashley thinking? I don't rate Pardew but I'd rather have him in charge and in full charge.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 24, 2013, 08:59:53 AM
So.. What did Gus Poyet do?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on June 24, 2013, 10:31:30 AM
That interview was hilarious! Ready the ROFLcopter BigAl :D :rofl:

Ashley is a fucking idiot of the highest order.
His ability to press the self destruct button knows no boundaries ::)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on June 24, 2013, 04:24:05 PM
So.. What did Gus Poyet do?

Fuck knows, possibly said something post Palace match where he said he may have taken Brighton as far as he could, seems very bizarre and for him to get told about the decision pretty much live on BBC was a bit bizarre too.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on September 22, 2013, 09:37:25 PM
Di Canio oot.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 22, 2013, 10:21:19 PM
Di Canio oot.


No shock there. He's as mad as a box of tadpoles. His conduct with the fans yesterday and towards his assistant after the first goal screamed of volatility. Shame. He was entertaining, just not fit for the job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on September 23, 2013, 01:55:08 AM

No shock there. He's as mad as a box of tadpoles. His conduct with the fans yesterday and towards his assistant after the first goal screamed of volatility. Shame. He was entertaining, just not fit for the job.

That outburst towards his assistant was probably the most head scratching of all. Fucking time bomb.

The Makems can point to their survival last season as justification for his appointment but they're rubber ducked now, he signed 14 players, re-jigged the backroom and now they'll have to do it all again.

They're more cracked than DiCanio for appointing the cunt.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on September 28, 2013, 09:14:30 PM
Nigel Clough sacked by Derby.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 08, 2013, 12:20:30 PM
Poyet announced as Sunderland manager.  Decent appointment imo and it will be interesting to see what he manages there.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 08, 2013, 01:55:38 PM
Poyet announced as Sunderland manager.  Decent appointment imo and it will be interesting to see what he manages there.

Not a popular appointment with the Sunderland fans interviewed on the tv last night as they feel they need someone with premiership experience to get them out the hole they are in.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on October 08, 2013, 05:18:32 PM
They're being unrealistic. What they need is a manager with experience of getting promoted from the Championship surely?  :wave:
 
Still, not in Poyet's CV (but did he no manage a promotion with Brighton?)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on October 09, 2013, 07:48:38 PM
They're being unrealistic. What they need is a manager with experience of getting promoted from the Championship surely?  :wave:
 
Still, not in Poyet's CV (but did he no manage a promotion with Brighton?)

You're right, he did.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on October 22, 2013, 08:21:02 AM
The agony is over for TF.
 
Mowbury punted fae Boro
 
Souness linked with vacancy  :-*
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 22, 2013, 08:44:58 AM
The agony is over for TF.
 
Mowbury punted fae Boro
 
Souness linked with vacancy  :-*


:lolabove:  fair few names banded about at the mo, included clough and Eck.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on October 22, 2013, 04:15:09 PM

:lolabove:  fair few names banded about at the mo, included clough and Eck.

Gibson favours a foreign coach apparently. Sourness unlikely and Pulis ruled out completely.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 23, 2013, 06:44:24 PM
Ian Holloway has left Crystal Palace.  Strange decision for me, but apparently his own.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on October 23, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
Ian Holloway has left Crystal Palace.  Strange decision for me, but apparently his own.

Not surprised by this at all after his post match comments against Fulham.

Admitted making a cunt of it by having to sign so many players.

He's a Championship manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 23, 2013, 07:21:59 PM
Not surprised by this at all after his post match comments against Fulham.

Admitted making a cunt of it by having to sign so many players.

He's a Championship manager.


Was literally having the same conversation with a colleague, and its very true sadly.


I hadn't heard his comments post match to be fair.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 24, 2013, 01:16:40 PM
Not surprised by this at all after his post match comments against Fulham.

Admitted making a cunt of it by having to sign so many players.

He's a Championship manager.

Holloway to take over at Boro?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on October 24, 2013, 04:38:42 PM
Not surprised by this at all after his post match comments against Fulham.

Admitted making a cunt of it by having to sign so many players.

He's a Championship manager.


Possibly a bit harsh but time will tell.  To be fair he had blackpool playing some great stuff in the first half of their PL season.  Palace were not ready for the PL and were always going down regardless of manager.  I think Holloway is more of an astute manager than he is given credit a lot of the time,  probably because he is known for being amusing. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on October 25, 2013, 01:11:58 AM

Possibly a bit harsh but time will tell.  To be fair he had blackpool playing some great stuff in the first half of their PL season.  Palace were not ready for the PL and were always going down regardless of manager.  I think Holloway is more of an astute manager than he is given credit a lot of the time,  probably because he is known for being amusing.

I reckon there are some very good managers who are "championship" managers. Warnock and Holloway being 2 of the best I can think of. Mowbray was another until making a James Hunt of it at Boro.

I'd reckon on it being unlikely that Holloway would get the job at Boro but he wasn't available when I spoke to a guy in the know at Boro. He reckoned on a foreign coach at the time. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on October 25, 2013, 09:01:11 AM

Possibly a bit harsh but time will tell.  To be fair he had blackpool playing some great stuff in the first half of their PL season.  Palace were not ready for the PL and were always going down regardless of manager.  I think Holloway is more of an astute manager than he is given credit a lot of the time,  probably because he is known for being amusing.

Holloway got a lot of plaudits from a lot of people for his Blackpool team in the PL, but let's face it, being able to set up a team defensively is as much part of the game and management as the attacking and flair side of it. And in the big league it looked as though he fell short. I'd go along with the "good Championship manager", Steve Bruce would probably fall into that too. Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on October 25, 2013, 11:29:32 AM

Holloway got a lot of plaudits from a lot of people for his Blackpool team in the PL, but let's face it, being able to set up a team defensively is as much part of the game and management as the attacking and flair side of it. And in the big league it looked as though he fell short. I'd go along with the "good Championship manager", Steve Bruce would probably fall into that too. Nothing wrong with that.

Agreed, I don't see it being anything other than a compliment tbh. It's a cunt of a hard league to get out of.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 02, 2013, 11:16:11 AM
Owen Coyle, punted by Wigan after only six months
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 02, 2013, 11:18:12 AM
25 November: Guy Whittingham (Portsmouth)
27 November: Richie Barker (Crawley)
28 November: Sean O'Driscoll (Bristol City)
30 November: David Flitcroft (Barnsley)
1 December: Martin Jol (Fulham)
1 December: Dave Jones (Sheffield Wednesday)
2 December: Owen Coyle (Wigan)
 
Merry go round gathers pace
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 02, 2013, 12:47:04 PM
Have to say, I did wonder how long Coyle would be in the job at Wigan.  Europe aside, things weren't going well. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 14, 2013, 10:44:14 PM
Steve Clarke punted by WBA....who just happen to one of our manager's ex clubs
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 16, 2013, 11:08:16 AM
AVB punted by Spurs
 
Source SSN
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on December 16, 2013, 02:32:11 PM
For a while it looked like he was to do ok there but it all feel apart in the end. To much spending for the sake of it in the summer screwed his squad unity I reckon
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 16, 2013, 05:02:04 PM
Zola resigns as Watford manager. Another that has suffered due to the success of the previous season?  All very strange.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on December 16, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
Open season down south then. Still harsh on AVB I reckon, equally so with Clarke. Barely getting a couple of years at these clubs.

Chopping and changing will probably leave these clubs no further forward in the long run.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on December 19, 2013, 11:54:00 PM
Cardiff!

Tan is obviously on a complete power trip

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25457024
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 20, 2013, 07:34:03 AM
Don't get what his problem is ???
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on December 20, 2013, 09:03:17 AM
Don't get what his problem is ???

Him and the guy from Hull both

How long before Steve Bruce gets the boot I wonder?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on December 20, 2013, 12:24:34 PM
Looks like Malky MacKay is going to be sacked.

I don't think the owner will be inundated with offers to become the new manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on December 20, 2013, 02:26:36 PM
Looks like Malky MacKay is going to be sacked.

I don't think the owner will be inundated with offers to become the new manager.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gsTVgB8LhUA/RnE2j96ybxI/AAAAAAAAAos/rviJ9UcioC0/s200/Jimmy%2BCalderwood.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 21, 2013, 12:55:50 PM
Cardiff fans :D
 
"Oh Vincent tan, is full of shit" etc... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 21, 2013, 03:26:03 PM
Cardiff fans :D
 
"Oh Vincent tan, is full of shit" etc... :thumbsup:

And quite fucking right.....
I mean what the fuck does he expect.
Any clown with have a degree of realism, would know that success for a club like Cardiff in their first season in EPL, represents finishing the season no lower than 17th.

Personally think that Malky MacKay has done a superb job at Cardiff, and he should sit it out, continue to let Tan make a total cunt of himself, await the sacking, take the pay off, and he will still be able to walk away with his head held high and there will be plenty of other job offers coming his way
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 21, 2013, 03:48:18 PM
Completely agree Al. I dont know what the fuck Tan thinks he's going to achieve there.
 it was great seeing the whole stadium unite behind Mackay. He's done a fantastic job at Cardiff.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on December 22, 2013, 08:36:55 PM
Completely agree Al. I dont know what the fuck Tan thinks he's going to achieve there.
 it was great seeing the whole stadium unite behind Mackay. He's done a fantastic job at Cardiff.


Looks like Tan has finally listened to someone. Malky staying on... For now.
Title: Re: Managers in Wales
Post by: mizer on December 27, 2013, 02:04:41 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/25526438 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/25526438)

Mackay sacked after yesterdays loss
Title: Re: Managers in Wales
Post by: BigAl on December 27, 2013, 04:23:49 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/25526438 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/25526438)

Mackay sacked after yesterdays loss

Absolute fucking joke.....
 
As I have previously said, MacKay can walk away with his head held high and genuinely believe his CV enhanced for what he achieved in getting them into Premiership.
Tan however......words fail me
Title: Re: Managers in Wales
Post by: mizer on December 27, 2013, 07:06:11 PM

Absolute fucking joke.....
 
As I have previously said, MacKay can walk away with his head held high and genuinely believe his CV enhanced for what he achieved in getting them into Premiership.
Tan however......words fail me

Not sure he is as mad as Romanov
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on December 27, 2013, 09:23:41 PM
He's defo worth of mentioning in the same breath mizer
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: mizer on December 28, 2013, 12:32:33 PM
He's defo worth of mentioning in the same breath mizer

Oh, indeed! Is Romanov still in 'hospital' so cant go back to Lithuania?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on January 02, 2014, 08:20:38 PM
Oh, indeed! Is Romanov still in 'hospital' so cant go back to Lithuania?

All seems to have gone quiet on that front.

And see the "baby faced assassin" has taken the Cardiff job.
Odds upon him seeing out the season are not exactly favourable.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 02, 2014, 10:32:25 PM
All seems to have gone quiet on that front.

And see the "baby faced assassin" has taken the Cardiff job.
Odds upon him seeing out the season are not exactly favourable.

Tan has to back him and give him the freedom to manage.

He won't though.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on January 03, 2014, 01:48:25 PM
Tan has to back him and give him the freedom to manage.

He won't though.

But he has had assurances that Tan does not get involved in the football side...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 03, 2014, 03:27:33 PM
I reckon he's on a hiding to nothing working for Tan.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 03, 2014, 06:32:11 PM
One leathering too many and it could be enough to persuede Tan to get rid.

Need to see how it turns out, OGS needs wins to keep the musketeer quiet.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on January 04, 2014, 01:12:26 AM
Cardiff, no win today, time to sack OGS?  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on January 05, 2014, 01:41:52 PM
West Ham currently getting hammered 4-0 by Forrest. Allardyce heading for exit door?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 05, 2014, 02:13:54 PM
West Ham currently getting hammered 4-0 by Forrest. Allardyce heading for exit door?


He surely won't survive this. Hugely unpopular appointment in the first place.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on January 05, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
Man United fans allegedly turning on Moyes.

Wonder how many of them were calling for Ferguson's head back in 1990?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on January 07, 2014, 10:41:41 AM
Man United fans allegedly turning on Moyes.

Wonder how many of them were calling for Ferguson's head back in 1990?


Most of them were.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on January 07, 2014, 01:56:47 PM

Most of them were.

To clarify I meant is it the same sections fans calling for Moyes to be booted now that were calling for Ferguson to GTF 25 years ago?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 07, 2014, 02:58:02 PM
25 years later? Aye, precisely the same.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on January 07, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
Aye because human beings are known for their life span being less than 25 years.  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on January 07, 2014, 05:19:00 PM
Aye because human beings are known for their life span being less than 25 years.  ;D

And precisely the same folk will be calling for the managers head a quarter of a century later.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on January 08, 2014, 12:21:27 PM
Moyes needs time but I fear he isn't doing himself any favours.

Quote
Manchester United: David Moyes says team are 'laughing at refs'   David Moyes says Manchester United are "beginning to laugh at referees" for their "terrible" decisions following a third successive loss.
    Fabio Borini scored from the spot to give Sunderland a 2-1 win (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25556245) in the first leg of their Capital One Cup semi-final after Adam Johnson tumbled in the area.
    The United manager, 50, said his team were "playing referees as well as the opposition".
    "We're actually beginning to laugh at them, that's the thing", he said.
    "It's really terrible, it really is. We're having to play them as well as the opposition at the moment."
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on January 08, 2014, 11:17:37 PM
Soooooo is Allaryce in the dole queue tomorrow?

Or is it perhaps too expensive to pay off his contract (£3.54million apparently  ???  and signed up till the end of next season during the summer)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on January 09, 2014, 11:01:41 AM
Terrible manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on January 09, 2014, 12:07:52 PM
Soooooo is Allaryce in the dole queue tomorrow?

Or is it perhaps too expensive to pay off his contract (£3.54million apparently  ???  and signed up till the end of next season during the summer)

One horse race to replace him I'd imagine  ???
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 15, 2014, 07:22:28 PM
I see Southampton chairman Cortese resigned today. Will be interesting to see if Pochetino follows through with his threat of leaving if he left, albeit that was last season.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 04, 2014, 08:18:36 PM
Laudrop sacked by Swansea.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on February 05, 2014, 01:41:06 PM
Laudrop sacked by Swansea.

Very strange.

He'll get a good job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 05, 2014, 01:50:43 PM
Very strange.

He'll get a good job.

Looks like a panic reaction to them only being two points off the relegation places.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TENEMENTFUNSTER on February 05, 2014, 01:58:04 PM
Looks like a panic reaction to them only being two points off the relegation places.

2 points but 12th! Biggest relegation zone in the world.

Been hit with a lot of key injuries but yeah, very likely panic.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Andrew on February 05, 2014, 02:44:27 PM
English football and the EPL especially is just one big joke. Fucking awful league.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 05, 2014, 04:35:16 PM
I don't think it was a panic reaction.  There have been rumblings of a number of disgruntled players / board members with his style even when they went on that run last season.  I think it's a daft decision personally, but I don't think it's a panic situation.  Huw Jenkins doesn't seem that kind of person.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 14, 2014, 07:05:37 PM
Fulham manager sacked and replaced by Felix Magath.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RDU_64 on February 14, 2014, 07:22:33 PM
Fulham manager sacked and replaced by Felix Magath.

Has he actually been sacked or is he reverting back to coaching?

Either way, the Khan boy is making an absolute fuck-tit of running a football club. Certainties to go down IMHO.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 14, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
Has he actually been sacked or is he reverting back to coaching?

Either way, the Khan boy is making an absolute fuck-tit of running a football club. Certainties to go down IMHO.

Sacked according to Sky Sports.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on April 07, 2014, 01:09:37 AM
Chris Hughton punted by Norwich. Ginger Orc Lennon installed as bookies favourite accordind to MOTD 2 tonight.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on April 07, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
Thing is do we want yella teeth to leave celtic? They might get a competent manager who'll make them more difficult to catch next season despite the resurgence of the Famous?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on April 09, 2014, 07:13:00 AM
Silly timing. Either do it far enough before the end of the season to give the new man a chance or still with the current manager until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on April 21, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
Sounds like Moyes could be on the brink?

TBF be fair hardly anyone could have followed SAF and made an immediate success of it.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Dandy_Don on April 21, 2014, 03:29:18 PM
Sounds like Moyes could be on the brink?

TBF be fair hardly anyone could have followed SAF and made an immediate success of it.

I think that's true and Moyes has been pretty awful. However, some of those players have been an absolute disgrace this season and they have to take some of the responsibility.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on April 21, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Agreed, but his transfer dealings in the Summer weren't exactly stellar. too much time chasing Everton players.

Surely he should have seen Ferdinand was already past his best by a long way, Evans and Jones are not top 4 central defenders (maybe get away with playing one of them with a quality CB, but both together?). Also Carrick, Cleverly and Young have been overhyped for years and are not good enough as a group.

Either Man U give him the Summer to bring in some quality to address the above or get rid now. If you were Man U would you trust him to rebuild?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Mentorred on April 21, 2014, 06:52:03 PM
Reminds me of Mcghee, Seems out of his depth at Man United. Breaking all the wrong records. Just waiting for him to come out with it's only 3 points after a hammering.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on April 21, 2014, 07:16:14 PM
According to NBCSN here talking to Telegraph correspondant reporting that it's likely to be confirmed in 24/48 hrs
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on April 21, 2014, 08:27:24 PM
Agreed, but his transfer dealings in the Summer weren't exactly stellar. too much time chasing Everton players.

Surely he should have seen Ferdinand was already past his best by a long way, Evans and Jones are not top 4 central defenders (maybe get away with playing one of them with a quality CB, but both together?). Also Carrick, Cleverly and Young have been overhyped for years and are not good enough as a group.

Either Man U give him the Summer to bring in some quality to address the above or get rid now. If you were Man U would you trust him to rebuild?

Carrick was voted United's player's player of the year last season, and deservedly so, but as I've said before, Moyes tactics have him playing 10 yards further up the park where he just won't be effective.  Play Carrick sitting right in front of the defence and he'll control the vast majority of matches for United, particularly at home. He hasn't been in that position this season and United have really struggled, particularly at home.
 
There are good players there who are not performing for him (there are some average ones not performing for him too) but they've not looked comfortable as a unit all season and that goes to the manager.

I like Davie Moyes, generally, but never thought he was up to the United job and I feel a bit sorry for him. I hope they put him out his misery and let him get on with his career at a club where he's a more comfortable fit.  Some of the players have done the dirty on him - Rio Ferdinand leaking every line up to the Mirror is an example of this; it wouldn't have happened under Fergie and Rio should be out the door right after Moyes.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Dandy_Don on April 22, 2014, 12:51:22 AM
Carrick was voted United's player's player of the year last season, and deservedly so, but as I've said before, Moyes tactics have him playing 10 yards further up the park where he just won't be effective.  Play Carrick sitting right in front of the defence and he'll control the vast majority of matches for United, particularly at home. He hasn't been in that position this season and United have really struggled, particularly at home.
 
There are good players there who are not performing for him (there are some average ones not performing for him too) but they've not looked comfortable as a unit all season and that goes to the manager.

I like Davie Moyes, generally, but never thought he was up to the United job and I feel a bit sorry for him. I hope they put him out his misery and let him get on with his career at a club where he's a more comfortable fit.  Some of the players have done the dirty on him - Rio Ferdinand leaking every line up to the Mirror is an example of this; it wouldn't have happened under Fergie and Rio should be out the door right after Moyes.

Agree with that completely. Some of the so-called senior players have been a disgrace.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on April 22, 2014, 07:07:35 AM
I don't understand sacking him now. If he wasn't going to get time then why bother giving him the job in the first place? If ever there was a job that needed time it's following SAF Ferguson at Man Utd.

I will concede that his post match interview on Sunday reminded me a lot of a certain Dingus. He seemed convinced that his team played really well. Not in the game that I watched.

But Fergie achieved wonders with a relatively shite squad. No other manager had a chance of doing that. I know the transfer dealing have been shite but as far as I know that's more down to the guy whose job it is to actually do the deals once the manager has identified targets. I can't remember the guy's name but it was his first time in the job and he made a cunt of it which certainly hasn't helped Moyes.

Fit's the about Rio leaking lineups? Why? ??? Odd.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 22, 2014, 09:01:42 AM
Officially sacked this morning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27107795

I find it utterly bizarre that they've chosen to do this now, unless they've already got the new man lined up.  I think he deserved until Christmas considering who he had to take over and the squad he needed to build.  He made a very positive signing in Mata in January so it would have been interesting to see who he'd manage to sign in the summer. 

I see van Gaal has been tipped as favourite, that'll be spurs fucked then!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on April 22, 2014, 09:31:44 AM
Officially sacked this morning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27107795

I find it utterly bizarre that they've chosen to do this now, unless they've already got the new man lined up.  I think he deserved until Christmas considering who he had to take over and the squad he needed to build.  He made a very positive signing in Mata in January so it would have been interesting to see who he'd manage to sign in the summer. 

Agreed.  I see SAF is getting some criticism for helping select Moyes.  Should've been given a bit more time.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on April 22, 2014, 10:58:00 AM
Man Utd managerless, Liverpool top of the league... Somewhere there's a scouser with one wish left.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 22, 2014, 11:48:03 AM
Man Utd managerless, Liverpool top of the league... Somewhere there's a scouser with one wish left.

Thatcher died already
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Mentorred on April 22, 2014, 01:33:04 PM
He knew when he came in the squad was getting old and needed rebuilt, but spent the summer chasing Fabregas who he had no chance of signing and Everton Players. I also think although aging the team should still be good enough to challenge for Champions League football. They got beat by West Brom, Swansea, Sunderland ETC. He looked lost and had no plan B.
I heard there was a clause in his contract that he could be fired without Man U having to pay the full remainder of his contract,  if he failed to qualify for the Champions League.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on April 22, 2014, 01:47:34 PM
Thatcher died already

Hopefully 'the Sun' will shut down next
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on April 22, 2014, 02:07:05 PM
Number of games won by Manchester United managers after their first 31 games in charge:
Moyes:18
Busby: 15
Atkinson:14
Ferguson: 12
Sexton: 12
Docherty: 10
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on April 22, 2014, 03:27:03 PM
Number of games won by Manchester United managers after their first 31 games in charge:
Moyes:18
Busby: 15
Atkinson:14
Ferguson: 12
Sexton: 12
Docherty: 10

Pretty irrelevant stat though, isn't it? How many of those managers had just taken over a team which had strolled to the league title the previous season?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Mentorred on April 22, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
Pretty irrelevant stat though, isn't it? How many of those managers had just taken over a team which had strolled to the league title the previous season?

Stats are like mini skirts......
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on April 22, 2014, 04:34:04 PM
Giggs in temporary charge.........

Call me cynical, but I wonder if he and other senior players engineered this?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: bearsdenred on April 22, 2014, 04:53:58 PM
Giggs in temporary charge.........

Call me cynical, but I wonder if he and other senior players engineered this?

sure most senior players do engineer it, after all some of the performances from utd were shocking. its ok i sent my championship manager CV down there. After all i have had a great 10 years winning more or less everything :)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on April 22, 2014, 05:25:13 PM
Can see the following scenario.....

Teeth goes to Norwich, immediately the seltik fans have Moyes in place as his replacement, before you can even draw a breath!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Mentorred on April 22, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
He lasted longer in the Man Utd job than I did on Football l Manager for ipad   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on April 23, 2014, 01:30:35 PM
Well I hope he comes back and fucks Man U up the arse. I think he has been treated rather shabby. If the internet was around when SAF started with Man U he would have been shafted fewer games in than Moyles. The pressure that fans now have with showing how they feel online makes a huge difference to things. And anyone who thinks a new manager that starts at Man U and can come in running after SAF and with an ageing team and be in the top four is deluded.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on April 23, 2014, 02:07:59 PM
Well I hope he comes back and fucks Man U up the arse. I think he has been treated rather shabby. If the internet was around when SAF started with Man U he would have been shafted fewer games in than Moyles. The pressure that fans now have with showing how they feel online makes a huge difference to things. And anyone who thinks a new manager that starts at Man U and can come in running after SAF and with an ageing team and be in the top four is deluded.

So it was the internet that got Moyes the sack and not the fact his tenure had cost United £200m?  Or that the players were clearly not responding to his methods? Or that he has overseen the worst defence of a league title possibly ever?

Anyone who compares Fergie starting at United and Moyes starting at United is deluded. United were an utter shambles of a club when Fergie tookover and he gutted them from top to bottom, so he was afforded the time. Moyes walked in to a very successful set up and ripped it up believing his way was better.  I think that lies at the feet of Moyes and not the internet.

All squads are ageing, but the squad Moyes got had lost Scholes and gained Januzaj and Zaha; one of whom has been used sparingly despite being the most exciting prospect at OT in years and the other wasn't even given a chance.  Are you seriously suggesting that taking the team who had last season won the league by 11 points to 7th place and out of all the cups (out of domestic cups at home, too) by early April isn't worthy of the tin tack?

Tthere has been utterly no sign of improvement.  His flip flopping in the media - team wins, "they're a great bunch of players"; team loses "I don't think they're good enough" - and his questionning of individual players - "They tell me he (Kagawa) is a great player; I've yet to see it." (that's Kagawa the former Bundesliga player of the year by the way, if he needs others to tell him he's a great player he's perhaps in the wrong business) has been embarrassing and possibly damaging in his relationship with the squad, something which lies squarely at his feet too.

Signing Fellaini... if ever there was a player not suited to a club it's him with United. Desperate signing which suggested Moyes didn't appreciate where he was and simply resorted to what he knows best; decent, hard grafting players with no frills, more concerned with breaking play up and making things generally uncomfortable for opponents rather than going for players who can actually play football (in fairness, Mata falls into that latter category).

I feel sorry for Moyes because he was clearly the wrong guy for that job, but I don't feel sorry for him being sacked, it's just a shame how was handled.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on April 23, 2014, 04:49:30 PM
Quote
Moyes walked in to a very successful set up
Quote

That was only because of Fergie's willpower last season. Already the signs were there that too many players were either past it, not good enough or just "coasting". Scholes?

Moyes (or whoever took it on) was doomed to fail because of the "old guard" and laziness in the existing squad, and with the useless and untried Woodward handling transfers? Moyes fucked up, yes, but it's not all on his shoulders......I'm look at you Ryan, Rio........
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on April 23, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Looking forward it will be interesting to see where they go now.  Van gaal doesn't seem a good fit to me, klopp would be the outstanding choice but he's said he intends to honour his bvb contract.  In short I think he fancies another go at PG's bayern, on a side note it's impressive he hasn't been disheartened enough by the loss of Gotze and Lewandoski to angle for a move to a richer club.  I have a big soft spot for Dortmund, have done since Booth went there, so I hope he stays where he is.  Simeone is obviously a bit interesting but how would he adapt to england both as a home and a League? I can't help but think he may end up at Barca, they will probably be changing manager soon.   One mischievous thought did occur though............ Wenger has yet to sign a new deal at arsenal..........  I highly doubt it but stranger things have happened in football.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on April 23, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
Actually the more that I think about it the more it make sense. 
He knows the league
He has won trophies (not recently but he has had financially tied hands for a while until very recently)
He know's how to harvest talented youth and utd have a great youth setup
He would be way less likely to lose top players due to high wage demands
Van Persie would stay
He has a very good european record
He would not be fazed by Ferguson being in the stand

As I said I highly doubt it will happen but you have to admit it's a very tantalising thought. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on April 23, 2014, 05:48:27 PM
Wenger has been my thought as soon as it happened tlg, so you're not alone.

Either that or, maybe, Hughes?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nellie The Don on April 23, 2014, 06:07:00 PM
Wenger has been my thought as soon as it happened tlg, so you're not alone.

Either that or, maybe, Hughes?

Reckon he'd be tempted away from Inverness?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on April 23, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
Maybe
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on April 23, 2014, 06:26:55 PM
Reckon he'd be tempted away from Inverness?

 :clap: :thumbsup:

Somebody (the Glazers?) have been very unprofessional in the way it was all over t'internet the day before the sacking.  Moyes deserved better.  Hope he is a success at a club akin to Everton, that sort of size of club will suit him again.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 23, 2014, 10:34:13 PM
:clap: :thumbsup:

Somebody (the Glazers?) have been very unprofessional in the way it was all over t'internet the day before the sacking.  Moyes deserved better.  Hope he is a success at a club akin to Everton, that sort of size of club will suit him again.

Thought the word was that it was Ferdinand?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on April 23, 2014, 10:46:37 PM


That was only because of Fergie's willpower last season. Already the signs were there that too many players were either past it, not good enough or just "coasting". Scholes?

I'm not just talking about last season. The set up I said which is how the club is structured - getting rid of the whole coaching staff for his own was a huge, and obvious, error.  However, taking your point there, United didn't purely win the league last season because of Fergie. They won it because they have good players, like it or not.  To listen to some folk you'd think it was an exceptionally poor squad he had... Fergie is the best manager ever in my opinion, but he's not a miracle worker.

And you're using Scholes as an example of coasting? He hardly played, his legs had gone, but I think you're well wide of the mark to accuse him of coasting when he played. Do we really think Fergie would allow his players to coast?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on April 24, 2014, 11:01:56 AM
Fergie had been at Utd so long his and the methods of his staff (coaches and players) had/have become institutionalized.

By getting rid of the existing coaching staff and implementing his own methods Moyes not only alienated the players he probably also confused them.

If ever there was a case for succession planning, with the new manager working alongside the existing one it was there, however the personality required to "manage" a club like united would have no doubt led to conflict rendering that virtually impossible.

If Moyes had been sensible he'd have cruised his first season. Kept Phelan et al, completed the signings already lined up. His ego wouldn't let him though.

That said there are too many players there that are not good enough to form such a large part of a top side.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 13, 2014, 01:17:48 PM
Quote

DONS boss Derek McInnes is among those being linked to take over as the next manager West Bromwich Albion.

McInnes is in the frame after the Baggies axed Pepe Mel after just six months in charge.

The former Baggies captain is a favourite of the Albion fans after three successful seasons playing at The Hawthorns.

The Aberdeen FC boss recently signed a new long-term contract at Pittodrie, but that hasn’t stopped him from being listed among the favourites with bookies down south.

Neil Lennon, Malky Mackay, Chris Hughton and Tim Sherwood have also been strongly linked.

West Brom sporting director Richard Garlick said: “We aim to find the most suitable candidate who will enable the club to be more competitive next season.”
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 13, 2014, 03:19:15 PM
Sherwood's odds might just shorten given the fact he's now available.
Fucking shocking treatment from Spurs
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: mizer on May 16, 2014, 12:37:29 PM
Norwich board meeting this afternoon - could be Lennon offski
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 16, 2014, 12:46:56 PM
Norwich board meeting this afternoon - could be Lennon offski

Mark McGhee your destiny is upon you.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nellie The Don on May 16, 2014, 12:53:57 PM
Mark McGhee your destiny is upon you.

 :clap: :lolabove:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 16, 2014, 01:08:39 PM
Mark McGhee your destiny is upon you.

Would near wet myself........ and on this occasion it would be fuck all to do with age.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 19, 2014, 07:03:57 AM
Really hope Popcorn Teeth stays. There's a danger of Celtic getting a less terrible manager if he goes.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on May 22, 2014, 03:31:02 PM
Quote
Former Manchester United manager David Moyes is being investigated by police after a scuffle in a Lancashire wine bar, the BBC understands.

Officers were called to the Emporium bar in Clitheroe at about 22:00 BST on Wednesday following reports a 23-year-old man had been assaulted.

Lancashire Police said the man had not needed hospital treatment.

A spokesman said officers were looking into "differing accounts" of what happened and no-one had been arrested.

The scuffle happened outside the Emporium, a spokesman for the bar said.

Moyes was sacked as United's manager in May after 10 months in the role.

Before he took over at the club, he had been in charge at Everton for more than a decade.

 :-\
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 22, 2014, 09:04:53 PM
So he does know how to attack.....
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on August 10, 2014, 11:35:45 AM
Huddersfield manager gone after one game.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on August 15, 2014, 12:19:05 AM
wonder what odds you would have got on Pulis being the first epl casualty of the season   :o :o :o :o
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/14/tony-pulis-crystal-palace-leaves
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on August 15, 2014, 09:32:22 AM
Probably jumped at the right time. Stock is high, was he going to beat an 11th place finish when his board didn't back him in the transfer market? I would be surprised if he's out of work for long... could be a good bet for the next Aston Villa manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on August 15, 2014, 07:01:27 PM
Probably jumped at the right time. Stock is high, was he going to beat an 11th place finish when his board didn't back him in the transfer market? I would be surprised if he's out of work for long... could be a good bet for the next Aston Villa manager.

Think your right about him jumping at right time.

He will be first choice for whichever team is struggling come the end of November.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on August 21, 2014, 09:58:42 AM
Malky Mackay's fucked up big time.

http://www.thesportbible.com/articles/revealed-the-sickening-messages-sent-between-mackay-and-moody


In July 2012, Cardiff signed South Korean international Kim Bo-kyung, but when Moody informed Mackay on July 12 that ‘five of the b******s including the player’ were arriving for talks, the reply from Mackay’s phone was: ‘Fkn chinkys.’ A further message says: ‘Fk it. There’s enough dogs in Cardiff for us all to go around.’
In reference to the prominent football agent, Phil Smith, a text states: ‘Go on, fat Phil. Nothing like a Jew that sees money slipping through his fingers’. The Israeli club, Maccabi Tel Aviv, are also referred to simply as ‘the Jews’.
A football official at another club is referred to as ‘a gay snake’ and ‘the homo’ and someone who is ‘not to be trusted’, while a French player is someone ‘who struck me as an independently minded young homo’.
An exchange with a young player who has a female agent makes reference to a sex act and states: ‘I hope she’s looking after your needs,’ the player is then told. ‘I bet you’d love a bounce on her falsies.’
On August 16, 2012, a list of players proposed by a French agent is forwarded, stating to Mackay that ‘he needs to rename his agency the All Blacks’. A separate text in reference to a list of French players states: ‘Not many white faces amongst that lot but worth considering.’
In a separate exchange a picture entitled ‘Black Monopoly’ is sent, with every square a ‘Go To Jail’ square. Of one African player, it is stated: ‘Doesn’t look like a good cv. And he’s Nigerian.’
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on August 21, 2014, 10:58:40 AM
Malky Mackay's fucked up big time.

http://www.thesportbible.com/articles/revealed-the-sickening-messages-sent-between-mackay-and-moody


In July 2012, Cardiff signed South Korean international Kim Bo-kyung, but when Moody informed Mackay on July 12 that ‘five of the b******s including the player’ were arriving for talks, the reply from Mackay’s phone was: ‘Fkn chinkys.’ A further message says: ‘Fk it. There’s enough dogs in Cardiff for us all to go around.’
In reference to the prominent football agent, Phil Smith, a text states: ‘Go on, fat Phil. Nothing like a Jew that sees money slipping through his fingers’. The Israeli club, Maccabi Tel Aviv, are also referred to simply as ‘the Jews’.
A football official at another club is referred to as ‘a gay snake’ and ‘the homo’ and someone who is ‘not to be trusted’, while a French player is someone ‘who struck me as an independently minded young homo’.
An exchange with a young player who has a female agent makes reference to a sex act and states: ‘I hope she’s looking after your needs,’ the player is then told. ‘I bet you’d love a bounce on her falsies.’
On August 16, 2012, a list of players proposed by a French agent is forwarded, stating to Mackay that ‘he needs to rename his agency the All Blacks’. A separate text in reference to a list of French players states: ‘Not many white faces amongst that lot but worth considering.’
In a separate exchange a picture entitled ‘Black Monopoly’ is sent, with every square a ‘Go To Jail’ square. Of one African player, it is stated: ‘Doesn’t look like a good cv. And he’s Nigerian.’

If true that is fucking astonishing.

I guess we now know why he was sacked by Cardiff!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on August 21, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28880830

 :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on August 23, 2014, 09:51:54 AM
No
Fucking
Way
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/crystal-palace-next-manager-latest-palace-consider-ally-mccoist--exclusive-9686808.html
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on August 23, 2014, 09:49:06 PM
No
Fucking
Way
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/crystal-palace-next-manager-latest-palace-consider-ally-mccoist--exclusive-9686808.html

FFS I've just pissed myself laughing, thanks!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on August 24, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
Normally you would say no way but clowns in charge of Palace have just emptied the manager who got them to 11th so they may just be crazy enough.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on September 18, 2014, 01:35:24 PM
Solskjaer "leaves" Cardiff.  Hartley / Dundee have already refused permission for Cardiff to open talks:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26328068
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on September 19, 2014, 01:49:44 PM
Fulham manager away yesterday as well.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on September 19, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
Fulham manager away yesterday as well.

Completely disastrous appointment from day one. I always laugh back at all fayeds comments about the MJ statue being removed when the new owners took over. Said that theyd fail as a result. So far, he's right.  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: scotfree on October 12, 2014, 02:30:45 PM
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/neil-lennon-appointed-bolton-wanderers-manager-12.10.14-2011942.aspx

Club confirm Neil Lennon as new manager with Johan Mjallby and Garry Parker also joining
Bolton Wanderers are delighted to announce the appointment of Neil Lennon as the club’s new manager.

Lennon, 43, joins the club after a successful four-year spell at the helm of Scottish giants Celtic, where he won three league titles, two domestic cups and led the side in European competition.

Lennon also enjoyed a decorated playing career, most notably with Crewe Alexandra, Leicester City and Celtic, as well as representing Northern Ireland on the international stage.

The extensive list of high calibre applicants demonstrated how those candidates viewed the opportunity to manage the club, even in its present position at the bottom of the Championship table.           

Following a process of first and second interviews with a shortlist of initial candidates, a unanimous decision was taken by Eddie Davies, Brett Warburton and Phil Gartside.

The club are delighted and excited to appoint Neil Lennon. He brings with him experience at the highest level and an infectious enthusiasm to take the club forward.

He will officially take charge of the Bolton Wanderers team from Monday morning in the run up to our upcoming game away at Birmingham City.

Lennon will be joined by assistant manager Johan Mjallby and first team coach Garry Parker.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: ally s on October 13, 2014, 08:54:48 AM

That's Bolton fucked then.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 13, 2014, 11:10:40 AM
I'm amazed they've gone for him.  That said, the septic fans I know would love to have him back at the tattie dome.  Just think he's going to get found out, and soon.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: ally s on October 13, 2014, 11:44:57 AM
I'm amazed they've gone for him.  That said, the septic fans I know would love to have him back at the tattie dome.  Just think he's going to get found out, and soon.

I'm genuinely surprised by that. Surely anyone with half a brain can see he's very limited to say the least?

He'll have no side circus to deviate simpletons away from his incompetence down at Bolton.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Andrew on October 13, 2014, 12:07:23 PM
I hope he does well. I don't think he is a bad guy and comes across fairly well when he is a pundit but all the old firm shite couldn't be good for someone with his sort of temperate.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on October 13, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
I hope he does well. I don't think he is a bad guy and comes across fairly well when he is a pundit but all the old firm shite couldn't be good for someone with his sort of temperate.


Bit early to be on the spirits Andrew, surely?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Superstar Tradesman on October 14, 2014, 04:11:51 AM
SaCk AnDrEw MMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 11, 2014, 09:05:39 AM
Moyes named Real Sociedad manager this morning.  Good luck to him, it's a shame it didn't work out at United, and clearly he will feel slightly vindicated in their indifferent form this season anyway.

Edit:  Moyes interview on BBC.  Good listen.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29977924
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on November 11, 2014, 09:10:27 AM
Moyes named Real Sociedad manager this morning.  Good luck to him, it's a shame it didn't work out at United, and clearly he will feel slightly vindicated in their indifferent form this season anyway.

Christ out of the frying pan and into the fire  :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 27, 2014, 03:53:33 PM
Amazingly, although not surprisingly at all, Neil Warnock is the first manager to be sacked in the EPL. A lot of my mates calling for Pulis to return.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 30, 2014, 10:26:58 AM
Merry go round has begun. Irvine sacked as WB boss and Pardew off to take over at Crystal Palace.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 30, 2014, 10:31:01 AM
Merry go round has begun. Irvine sacked as WB boss and Pardew off to take over at Crystal Palace.

Thankfully Derek not even quoted for West From gig.
SSN reporting they are already in talks with Pullis
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 30, 2014, 10:39:25 AM
Thankfully Derek not even quoted for West From gig.
SSN reporting they are already in talks with Pullis

Thank fuck for that. ED gave me a fright last night when he told me about it without mentioning him
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on December 31, 2014, 10:58:06 AM
Thank fuck for that. ED gave me a fright last night when he told me about it without mentioning him

Ah I may have just been being a dick! ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 03, 2015, 02:49:13 PM
Harry Redknapp resigns

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/03/harry-redknapp-resigns-qpr-manager?CMP=twt_gu
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on February 03, 2015, 04:13:04 PM
See ya.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 11, 2015, 08:59:45 PM
Lambert sacked this evening. Hardly surprising.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on February 11, 2015, 10:26:40 PM
Lambert sacked this evening. Hardly surprising.

100 matches, 25 wins. Only Big Red has a poorer record as a Vanilla manager.

They've only scored 12 goals after 25 games this season, the worst ever in PL records.

To be tbh honest I'm fucking surprised they've scored that many.  Been an awful team to watch for years.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 12, 2015, 07:04:13 AM
100 matches, 25 wins. Only Big Red has a poorer record as a Vanilla manager.

They've only scored 12 goals after 25 games this season, the worst ever in PL records.

To be tbh honest I'm fucking surprised they've scored that many.  Been an awful team to watch for years.

My housemate has always thought that Villa deserve to get relegated, if only to teach them a lesson. Potentially a massive club but if they weren't there, I doubt you'd notice. Shame because villa parks supposedly a very nice ground.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on February 12, 2015, 08:09:00 AM
Villa have been fucking dreadful for years. Last season Benteke carried them a bit. He's not managing to do that this season. His injury layoff won't have helped him.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on February 12, 2015, 09:31:22 AM
Lerner ain't interested and hasn't been for years which is the real problem at villa imo
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on February 23, 2015, 12:39:22 PM
Pressley sacked by Coventry.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 16, 2015, 04:39:15 PM
Unsurprisingly Pooyet has been sacked

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31902933
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on March 17, 2015, 08:11:19 AM
Unsurprisingly Pooyet has been sacked

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31902933

And Dick Advocaat being lined up as interim manager!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 17, 2015, 08:41:20 AM
And Dick Advocaat being lined up as interim manager!

And he's in!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31919801

They're doomed.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on March 17, 2015, 10:01:46 AM
And he's in!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31919801

They're doomed.

with any luck he'll take the bastards down
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 07, 2015, 09:58:09 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32211094

 :o :o :o

Didn't think he had the mental capacity to be a footballer, let along a manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on April 08, 2015, 08:21:11 AM
I would be fucking fizzing if I was a Wigan fan. They're completely and utterly fucked.  :laughing:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 08, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
I would be fucking fizzing if I was a Wigan fan. They're completely and utterly fucked.  :laughing:

Rugby town anyway ;)

I do wonder what will become of Mackay though, seemed like a bit of a last chance saloon after bond-gate
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on April 08, 2015, 01:50:06 PM
Rugby town anyway ;)

I do wonder what will become of Mackay though, seemed like a bit of a last chance saloon after bond-gate

Total rugby town. I have been to a few games down there and crowds were woeful even though tickets were cheaper than what we charge at Pittodrie. Soon be back in the 4th division where they belong.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 09, 2015, 02:33:09 PM
Total rugby town. I have been to a few games down there and crowds were woeful even though tickets were cheaper than what we charge at Pittodrie. Soon be back in the 4th division where they belong.

It's a shame, I've never minded their stadium and played some decent football, but couldn't care less anymore!

Look who's back!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32233398

(http://bluejellymedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sturrock.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: phoenix on April 09, 2015, 03:19:46 PM
Well I'll be dipped in shit!

He cums fae Ellon...don't think he went to the Academy(great centre of learning!).

Full name   Paul Whitehead Sturrock
Date of birth   10 October 1956 (age 58)
Place of birth  Ellon, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Height   5 ft 8 in (1.73 m)
Playing position   Striker

Libra:Monkey:Fire:Yin

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on April 09, 2015, 03:35:33 PM
Boy's piling on the beef like.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: phoenix on April 09, 2015, 04:27:29 PM
Fuckin' lack of self-discipline , should be setting an example.

Tub o' lard !
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 28, 2015, 07:06:49 AM
Dick Advocaat has left Sunderland, can't say I blame him. Did a fantastic job keeping them up and Sunderland are only going to struggle again next season.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 28, 2015, 08:34:49 AM
Dick Advocaat has left Sunderland, can't say I blame him. Did a fantastic job keeping them up and Sunderland are only going to struggle again next season.

Not a surprise. He was already on record as saying he did not want another club job before he took Sunderland job.

Going to be a few premier league clubs looking for managers this summer.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 01, 2015, 07:33:18 AM
Paul Clement has been appointed head coach of Derby county. Interesting appointment given he's always been a no. 2. Always quite liked derby, was hoping they'd get promoted last season. It is a shite hole right enough mind.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on June 30, 2015, 08:31:24 PM
Nigel Pearson sacked.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 30, 2015, 10:54:49 PM
Nigel Pearson sacked.

Ridiculous decision but hey ho, stupid owners will do what stupid owners will.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on July 13, 2015, 07:42:49 PM
Ridiculous decision but hey ho, stupid owners will do what stupid owners will.

Even more ridiculous decision to replace him with Ranieri.  As nice as a guy as he appears to be, I have never been convinced by him.  Can't see him lasting long.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 03, 2015, 10:52:26 PM
Mourinho under pressure. It was his blatant sexism towards the physio wot done for him.

Roman's stolens bought success deserves to be halted.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on October 04, 2015, 02:27:17 PM
Dick Advocaat resigns

Another who does "walking away"
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 04, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
It does seem like mourinho has lost the plot this season. Can he ever last more than 2-3 seasons at a club before he self destructs?

Despite his hunnish period which I choose to ignore, I've always liked advocaat,  sad to see him fail at Sunderland.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 04, 2015, 05:29:10 PM
I've never liked Dickhead Advocado, before, during and after the extinct Hun club.

Even yesterday on the touch line bursting a blood vessel, he was a dick.

Especially given he knew he was going.

He's a small Dutch cunt. Van Gaal is a tall Dutch cunt.

Pattern forming here? Data sample only two but it's enough. Many Dutch are cunts.

When he dropped Kenny Miller the week after he scored 5, that told me everything about him.

SMS = small man syndrome.

In Dickhead's case, it's physical. In other managers, small minds.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on October 04, 2015, 05:42:30 PM
It does seem like mourinho has lost the plot this season. Can he ever last more than 2-3 seasons at a club before he self destructs?

Despite his hunnish period which I choose to ignore, I've always liked advocaat,  sad to see him fail at Sunderland.

Seeing his reactions at the 2000 scottish cup final cemented my dislike for him

His stance on NOT giving the ball back to the opposition after they have kicked it out for an injured player should be enough to label him a kazak sugarcube for life
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on October 04, 2015, 06:37:38 PM
Rodgers sacked by liverpule

Damn, they might get someone decent now.................


Rodgers for Motherwell?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 04, 2015, 08:28:34 PM
Haha, been a long time coming sadly. Ancelotti is favourite to take the reigns, shame really
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on October 05, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
Mourinho under pressure. It was his blatant sexism towards the physio wot done for him.

Roman's stolens bought success deserves to be halted.


When all that shite with that bird was kicking off it just seemed to be him deflecting attention from a team (and manager?) performing poorly. It seemed to work because that's all anyone was talking about. But now all that's in the past and they're still doing shite he's under a lot of pressure. Spent a lot of money too. Although is it him that's spending the money or Abramovic? Or a committee?  :hammer:

I don't care. I'm quite enjoying seeing them languish to be honest. I also think Mourinho will turn them around. As much of a colossal bellend that he is I do think he's a good coach. I just wish people would stop listening to the nonsense that comes out of his mouth. Apparently refs are "scared to give Chelsea decisions". What about the penalty that Southampton should have had on Saturday, Jose? Ye prick.


Haha, been a long time coming sadly. Ancelotti is favourite to take the reigns, shame really

Shocked that he got the boot. I went back and fore on that one.. I feel a bit sorry for him. He's a decent manager. This transfer committee nonsense hasn't helped him. Although I don't think Ancelotti is the favourite to come in. I think it'll be Klopp. I'm not convinced by Klopp. But maybe he can help attract better players? Not sure. But I don't think Liverpool's problems were all down to BR. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 05, 2015, 12:25:58 PM
Shocked that he got the boot. I went back and fore on that one.. I feel a bit sorry for him. He's a decent manager. This transfer committee nonsense hasn't helped him. Although I don't think Ancelotti is the favourite to come in. I think it'll be Klopp. I'm not convinced by Klopp. But maybe he can help attract better players? Not sure. But I don't think Liverpool's problems were all down to BR.

My old flat mate said the same, not necessarily down to the manager.  He's always berated your transfer committee, especially the way you always seem to dither in the market. Seems to have swayed towards Klopp over the weekend, but certainly the past few weeks there seemed to be plenty of speculation over Ancelotti.  Shame for you, I think he'd have a much quicker impact than Klopp.

Rodgers appeared to be a decent manager but sounded like a bit of a penis of a man.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 08, 2015, 03:20:57 PM
Klopp announced:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34469429
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on October 08, 2015, 04:01:04 PM
Fascinating appointment. I don't really have a 2nd team but if i did it would be BVB so I have a lot of time for Klopp.  I'll defo be looking out for the scousers score a bit more now.  He can be quite abrasive as well and I can totally see him falling out with Jose and Van Gaal pretty quickly which would be highly entertaining. 
Ancellotti, if he was actually interested, would have been a safer appointment but Klopp took the Dortmund team from the pits of despair which goes in his favour.  Honigstein postulated on football weekly that a lot of teams had kinda figured Klopps high intenstity game out which was one of the reasons for BD's downfall.  It defo played a part and there didn't seem to be a plan B but the big contributor for their rapid decline at the end of Klopps tenure that was losing Gotze and Lewandowski to Bayern.  It really deflated the rest of the squad and you can understand why.  I really hope this works out for him.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on October 08, 2015, 05:23:02 PM
"Please, please, please we want our Stevie G back. Please....."

Quote
LA Galaxy are bracing themselves for Klopp to try to tempt midfielder Steven Gerrard, 35, back to Liverpool as part of his backroom staff in the future.

 ::)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on October 08, 2015, 05:51:44 PM
Klopp announced:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34469429

New series of the Ricky Gervais show or Extras still on hold again

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxuSLtNCUAAz-dP.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 25, 2015, 01:54:50 PM
Sherwood punted by Villa.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on November 05, 2015, 01:21:47 PM
QPR sack their manager with Warnock returning on a temp basis until a new manager appointed.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on November 15, 2015, 09:17:59 PM
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/14032628.Jackie_McNamara_becomes_first_York_City_manager_to_lose_opening_three_games_in_charge/

 ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 15, 2015, 09:36:48 PM
 ;D

I was actually talking to one of my mates who's a York City fan, and warned him about his shitness. Evidently I haven't been proved wrong!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 28, 2015, 06:15:21 PM
McLaren not been binned yet by Newcastle? If not, why not.

Garde at Villa another bad appointment screaming to be put out of his misery.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on November 29, 2015, 12:05:47 AM
Garde at Villa another bad appointment screaming to be put out of his misery.

A coach with a decent pedigree and only weeks in the job? Aye screaming out to be put out of his misery   ::)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 29, 2015, 12:30:34 AM
A coach with a decent pedigree and only weeks in the job? Aye screaming out to be put out of his misery   ::)

3 games in and he's going to be gone real soon.

His debatable pedigree can't hide the fact he's an uninspiring boring cunt who is totally out of his depth.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 30, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
It's a shame that Garry Monk appears to be under a lot of pressure.  I like the way he conducts himself and quite sure he can turn it around.  Managed to last season and it's not like they've really had a change in personnel which would prevent that from happening.

I'm amazed McLaren hasn't been binned yet.  What a fool he must feel like for ditching a likely promotion candidate for Newcastle.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on November 30, 2015, 05:28:11 PM
It's a shame that Garry Monk appears to be under a lot of pressure.  I like the way he conducts himself and quite sure he can turn it around.  Managed to last season and it's not like they've really had a change in personnel which would prevent that from happening.

I'm amazed McLaren hasn't been binned yet.  What a fool he must feel like for ditching a likely promotion candidate for Newcastle.

Agree on both counts.

I think it'd be a mistake for Swansea to sack Monk. I hope they stick by him. I am however, amazed that Newcastle have stuck by McLaren. After seeing that scoreline on Saturday I would have put money on him being gone by Monday teatime.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 30, 2015, 09:46:41 PM
Not in england, but seems like Phil neville has landed a more prominent role at Valencia after the useless nuno left. Hadn't realised the owner was the same man who has part ownership of Salford city. That must surely be the only reason why neville is still there?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on December 01, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
Not in england, but seems like Phil neville has landed a more prominent role at Valencia after the useless nuno left. Hadn't realised the owner was the same man who has part ownership of Salford city. That must surely be the only reason why neville is still there?


I don't profess to know why he wasn't given the boot but I do have a lot of time for Phil. And Gary too now truth be told. They both strike me as hard workers that genuinely care. And although that should be a minimum requirement for any job the truth is it's becoming more and more rare.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 02, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
Gary neville is now head coach of Valencia! Sky must be gutted
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on December 02, 2015, 01:48:36 PM
Gary neville is now head coach of Valencia! Sky must be gutted

He was a fantastic pundit, always enjoyed watching him so it's a shame he'll be leaving.

It's a bit of a left field appointment for Valencia though, very unproven as a coach let alone as a manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on December 03, 2015, 02:33:41 PM
He was a fantastic pundit, always enjoyed watching him so it's a shame he'll be leaving.

It's a bit of a left field appointment for Valencia though, very unproven as a coach let alone as a manager.

Mates wi the owner.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 04, 2015, 12:59:15 PM
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink takes over at QPR. Shame really, would like to have seen him stick it out with Burton until the end of the season to see if they could get back to back promotions. I also don't like QPR.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 07, 2015, 11:49:10 AM
Agree on both counts.

I think it'd be a mistake for Swansea to sack Monk. I hope they stick by him. I am however, amazed that Newcastle have stuck by McLaren. After seeing that scoreline on Saturday I would have put money on him being gone by Monday teatime.

See the bread maker is getting linked with the Swansea job if Monk gets the tin tack.
would love to see him turn his back on the Tribute Act.
The deluded masses would go into melt down  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on December 07, 2015, 01:33:02 PM
See the bread maker is getting linked with the Swansea job if Monk gets the tin tack.
would love to see him turn his back on the Tribute Act.
The deluded masses would go into melt down  ;D

I was all for Monk getting more time until I read the above. Now I want him gone purely to watch the absolute explosion of rage from Govan if Warburton was to go.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 09, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
I was all for Monk getting more time until I read the above. Now I want him gone purely to watch the absolute explosion of rage from Govan if Warburton was to go.

Well it's just got one step closer, Monk has been sacked. Let's hope they decide to get the bread maker in :D

I am gutted for Monk though. Seems like a decent guy and was Swansea through and through.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 09, 2015, 11:52:18 PM
Not exactly managers IN England but talking of managers OF England...

Gary Neville is going to fail at Valencia.

Of this there is zero doubt.

The interesting thing is to know WHY he is going to fail.

Very few people have the gift to understand this.

I feel blessed to be in the fractional minority.

Often, I waste my breath arguing with those who don't know what day of the week it is.

Therefore, with greater experience, I desist.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 10, 2015, 07:40:40 AM
Unfortunately I agree, it's one thing being an excellent pundit and there is no doubting his persistence and dedication, but it's a massive, massive ask. I hope I'm wrong because I like him.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 10, 2015, 10:52:07 AM
Being human, I can make a mistake. Forecasting is extremely uncertain.

In this instance, I would be shocked if he succeeded in football management.

Agree that's he's an excellent pundit and I also like him.

He's just not got the personality to inspire and is not a natural leader of men.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 10, 2015, 11:01:47 AM
On the subject of managers IN England, I laff at LvG.

It's pretty sick to laff at another's misfortune. Normally.

But as anyone who has worked in the North Sea for any length of time can tell you - which I haven't but its not the exclusive method by which this can be learned of course - the Dutch can be hard work. Obstinance and rigidity is a national trait and in van Gaal, he is so full of it that he's bursting hard, it's in his very essence and it appears to come through his pores.

An arsehole in other words. Perfect fit. I don't like MU.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 17, 2015, 02:46:12 PM
Mourinho gone!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 17, 2015, 03:23:46 PM
Mourinho under pressure. It was his blatant sexism towards the physio wot done for him.

Roman's stolens bought success deserves to be halted.

His terrible treatment of the female physio may have been the start of him losing the dressing room.

That's Real Madrid and now Chelsea that he's lost the respect of the players.

It won't affect his future employment opportunities but he does have to learn from his mistakes if he wants future success.

If I were Man U, I would bin LvG and take Mourinho right now, as long as during the interview chat he demonstrates the requisite humility and admits to his big ego getting in the way and ultimately alienating the very people he can't afford to alienate, his performers, the players.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on December 17, 2015, 03:33:06 PM
As one journalist (Marcotti, I think) said some time ago of Mourinho, he only lasts around 3 years at clubs because eventually his players begin to resent him due to his lack of empathy with them, having never played the game to a level close to them.

I see the BEEB are linking Brendan Rogers to the job. I would love it if that happened.

Love it even more if he bought Joe Allen in the January window...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on December 18, 2015, 10:59:06 AM
As one journalist (Marcotti, I think) said some time ago of Mourinho, he only lasts around 3 years at clubs because eventually his players begin to resent him due to his lack of empathy with them, having never played the game to a level close to them.

I see the BEEB are linking Brendan Rogers to the job. I would love it if that happened.

Love it even more if he bought Joe Allen in the January window...

 ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on January 21, 2016, 08:58:59 PM
Not exactly managers IN England but talking of managers OF England...

Gary Neville is going to fail at Valencia.

Of this there is zero doubt.

Valencia still haven't won a league game under him, I'm pretty sure but not 100% certain. With failing to beat Las Palmas at home in the cup tonight, getting beat in the next game may spell the end of this charade, this experiment that was predictably catastrophic. He may not even last to the summer, the end of his short abortion of a contract.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on January 23, 2016, 07:27:32 PM
Van Gaal's jacket has surely dropped off the shoogly peg and is now being trampled on the floor.

Another defeat at home, another goalless performance with only one shot on target and his team has scored the same amount of league goals this season as wretched Sunderland.

Even van Gaal, the arrogant, stubborn van Gaal must admit his 'philosophy' isn't working and in retrospect never even got off the ground.  He has bought poorly but expensively. Time to go surely?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on January 31, 2016, 04:58:34 PM
Valencia beaten at home by Sporting Hee Hon.

How the fuck Neville got the job was beyond me.

How he's not been sacked yet, incredible.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 01, 2016, 01:10:41 PM
Man City confirm Pellegrini leaving in the summer to be replaced by Pep.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on February 01, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
Man City confirm Pellegrini leaving in the summer to be replaced by Pep.

You've got to think that Man United have fucked up big time not moving for Pep, would have been the ideal candidate to recover from the past couple of years.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 01, 2016, 01:18:17 PM
You've got to think that Man United have fucked up big time not moving for Pep, would have been the ideal candidate to recover from the past couple of years.

Wonder if they will go for Pellegrini instead?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on February 01, 2016, 02:15:40 PM
You've got to think that Man United have fucked up big time not moving for Pep, would have been the ideal candidate to recover from the past couple of years.

Not sure about that. Undoubtedly a superb coach etc, but in the two jobs he's had so far he's walked into already successful sides needing little work done to them.  That certainly isn't the case at United where a full overhaul is required. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on February 01, 2016, 03:00:20 PM
Not sure about that. Undoubtedly a superb coach etc, but in the two jobs he's had so far he's walked into already successful sides needing little work done to them.  That certainly isn't the case at United where a full overhaul is required.

You could well be right there, I was only looking at it from the perspective that he's a top coach who would bring a more exciting attacking style of play which seems to be what the man united fans are crying out for, I've no idea how he'd get on gutting the current squad and building his effectively from scratch.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on February 01, 2016, 11:22:07 PM
Pellegrini is shite.

You only need eyes in your head to see this.

Fuck that cunt fae Chile. Total charlatan.

The proof will be in who employs him next and how little - like zero - he will ever win.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on February 01, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
Man C guaranteed EPL winners 2016/17.

That's the value of a competent manager.

Pep is excellent and his budget will be adequate.

With an absence of talent in the management to challenge him, game over.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on February 07, 2016, 05:12:53 PM
Valencia beaten by Real Betis now, who draw level on points.

This has got relegation written all over it. Neville not won a league game yet and not looking capable of doing so.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 07, 2016, 08:44:00 PM
Valencia beaten by Real Betis now, who draw level on points.

This has got relegation written all over it. Neville not won a league game yet and not looking capable of doing so.

Hopefully they'll end this charade tonight. Ridiculous form.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 08, 2016, 11:32:30 PM
Two championship managers gone in 24 hours with Neil Redfern sacked from Rotherham after 4 months in charge and Paul Clement sacked after 8 months.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 11, 2016, 01:56:05 PM
McClaren sacked as barcodes boss. Benitez favourite to replace him. Hope they dont get their act together!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on March 11, 2016, 02:34:34 PM
Da ken about that appointment like. Better than McLaren but he's never been in a relegation battle in his life.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 15, 2016, 06:27:59 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35811267 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35811267)

Lennon leaves Bolton by mutual consent. Hasn't really had an easy ride of it down there but wonder what the chances of him ending back at Celtic are?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on March 18, 2016, 09:04:48 PM
On the Neville situation, I find it totally unacceptable that my daughter sends me some wee video from Valencia tonight and I retort with Gary Neville = penis and she doesn't know what I'm on about.

I don't give a fuck about the Saint Joseph Las Fallas festival or fitever the fuck. But I thought I brought her up better than this, to be football-aware. Fucking cow.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on March 29, 2016, 10:19:38 PM
Remi Garde out the door at Villa... Eric Black taking temporary charge.  Good luck with that Eric....
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on March 30, 2016, 12:08:50 AM
Remi Garde out the door at Villa... Eric Black taking temporary charge.  Good luck with that Eric....

Aye, fighting a losing battle there...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dandy on March 30, 2016, 04:53:17 PM
Gary Neville offski
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on March 30, 2016, 08:49:56 PM
3 out of 4 ain't bad. McLaren, Garde and Neville.

Now need Fat Sam to get the bullet. Unfortunately that won't be this side of the summer and if he gets Norwich relegated and keeps Soonderlund up, I fear he may even be given another chance for 2016/17.

I despise Allardyce. More than I disliked McLaren. He's a fucking charlatan.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on March 31, 2016, 07:42:17 AM
Fair play to neville though, he learnt Spanish in a very short time. I believe Phil takes the training sessions in Spanish. Those two have performed much better than most brits do abroad (linguistically). I think he'll do fine if he goes into management, just needs to be a bit more careful about where he goes.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on April 05, 2016, 12:37:25 PM
Conte has barely been announced and Chris Sutton is already putting the boot in!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35965091

Although it would be funny if they did down tools!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on April 18, 2016, 12:02:19 AM
Why is Arsene still employed at Arsenal?

The man is a schoolteacher, not a manager of men.

Useless bastard.

Great talent spotter though. He's in the wrong role. Pay him £7,500 a week for talent identification but get him to fuck out of the dressing room.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on April 21, 2016, 08:40:21 AM
Rumours on the go this morning that Martinez will be sacked by Everton if they do not get to cup final.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 21, 2016, 09:21:45 AM
Rumours on the go this morning that Martinez will be sacked by Everton if they do not get to cup final.

Another person who has taken a club as far as he can.  He should have gone in the summer as Everton have just gone backwards since. Shame to see.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on April 21, 2016, 09:25:41 AM
That was some hiding they took last night. Can't remember the last time I saw a game so one sided tbh be honest. And long before the sending off too.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on April 21, 2016, 09:25:59 AM
Rumours on the go this morning that Martinez will be sacked by Everton if they do not get to cup final.

Always liked Martinez as a man. Comes across very well in interviews.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on April 21, 2016, 09:26:57 AM
That was some hiding they took last night. Can't remember the last time I saw a game so one sided tbh be honest. And long before the sending off too.

Never saw it, but believe Liverpool had over FORTY attempts at goal  :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on April 21, 2016, 10:43:57 AM
Rumours on the go this morning that Martinez will be sacked by Everton if they do not get to cup final.

Quite right too, one of the biggest chancers in the game. Can't set up a defence. How he has hoodwinked so many is remarkable really.

He used to do the relegation escape trick at Wigan of losing most of his matches up to March then go on a wee run and stay up... if his season had been reversed, win at the start then capitulate for the rest of the season he'd have been bulleted at Wigan and got nowhere near the Everton job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 28, 2016, 01:51:14 PM
Lambert is to leave Blackburn at the end of the season. Wonder if he's preparing himself for the timmy job given that he's activated the clause in his contract himself.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on April 28, 2016, 03:36:39 PM
Lambert is to leave Blackburn at the end of the season. Wonder if he's preparing himself for the timmy job given that he's activated the clause in his contract himself.

Hopefully. He's thick as shit.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on April 28, 2016, 04:19:55 PM
Hopefully. He's thick as shit.

Yes please. Rather see that than someone semi competent like Moyes or Rogers get that gig.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nellie The Don on May 12, 2016, 02:02:29 PM
Rumours on the go this morning that Martinez will be sacked by Everton if they do not get to cup final.

That's him officially Offski.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36098344
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 21, 2016, 09:50:27 AM
Walter mazzarri confirmed as the new Watford boss. Still think it was harsh on flores, despite their rancid form since Jan.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 21, 2016, 07:28:08 PM
Walter mazzarri confirmed as the new Watford boss. Still think it was harsh on flores, despite their rancid form since Jan.

Agree. No way should a manager be sacked for getting a team like Watford to 13th.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 21, 2016, 08:18:53 PM
Agree. No way should a manager be sacked for getting a team like Watford to 13th.

Supposedly their thinking is that it's hard to reverse poor form such as theirs and that would probably mean relegation.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 23, 2016, 11:23:22 AM
Van Gaal punted

So apparently those were unconfirmed reports (again). Although all the signs are pointing to that direction. Statement (seem to be in vogue recently!)  ;D due at 1PM.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on May 23, 2016, 12:44:22 PM
Van Gaal punted

So apparently those were unconfirmed reports (again). Although all the signs are pointing to that direction. Statement (seem to be in vogue recently!)  ;D due at 1PM.

The BBC are now reporting this as confirmed, doesnt appear to be anything from the club though.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 24, 2016, 03:02:07 PM
Mourinho at United and Pep at Citey. Who's gonna win between the 2 x Manchester clubs?

I think Pep will prevail 2016/17. Going to be very interesting (if Jose goes there as everyone now expects).
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 24, 2016, 03:20:51 PM
The way United treated van Gaal was embarrassing (at least it appeared that way). He was clearly a good man and deserved better than that but I suppose at least they never made the announcement during the season, unlike city. It will be interesting to see how mourinho copes with that amount of injuries if he has them.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 24, 2016, 03:33:30 PM
The way United treated van Gaal was embarrassing (at least it appeared that way). He was clearly a good man and deserved better than that but I suppose at least they never made the announcement during the season, unlike city. It will be interesting to see how mourinho copes with that amount of injuries if he has them.

I can't see how it was "clear" that he was a good man. He came across as a fucking arse to me.

I know we can't generalise but as any cunt who's worked in the North sea can attest, there is a stubborn arrogance about many of the Dutch and he did nothing to void this stereotype.

Even my wife couldn't stand him and whilst her instinct is razor accurate, she never normally bothers about football people on the telly so there was something deeply unpleasant about his persona before she thought this.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 24, 2016, 03:44:24 PM
I can't see how it was "clear" that he was a good man. He came across as a fucking arse to me.

I know we can't generalise but as any cunt who's worked in the North sea can attest, there is a stubborn arrogance about many of the Dutch and he did nothing to void this stereotype.

Even my wife couldn't stand him and whilst her instinct is razor accurate, she never normally bothers about football people on the telly so there was something deeply unpleasant about his persona before she thought this.

Guess growing up in Holland I was always used to his antics, but I can't disagree about the stubborn arrogance comment regarding the Dutch.  Just found the whole episode a bit disrespectful.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 24, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
Guess growing up in Holland I was always used to his antics, but I can't disagree about the stubborn arrogance comment regarding the Dutch.  Just found the whole episode a bit disrespectful.

Yes it could have and should have been handled better. They at least could have told him in advance although going public with it as Citey did so early was always going to be counter-productive.

I won't generalise about the jewish owners and their lack of respect for any humanity that isn't jewish.

If Giggs gets kept on, I think this would be a big mistake. He should be fucked off, an untrustworthy character and a blast from the past from which ties need to be severed in order for them to move on.

Much as I throughly enjoyed Ferguson's contribution on the Rory McIlroy thing, I fear that until he's banned from getting anywhere close to being involved on the playing side of the business, his presence and reminder of past glories will also be counter-productive. I know that they'll say that he hasn't been anywhere near the business of management since he retired but a man like that can't keep from offering unsolicited observations and impressions to his successors. Not that he would be interfering directly, it's just the bad karma deep within his soul that pollutes their future, much as he was the best manager of all time.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 24, 2016, 10:58:50 PM
SSN reporting deal for Mourinho has agreed terms with Manchester United.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 25, 2016, 09:53:02 AM
Van Gaal, in my opinion, is not a likeable man. I don't know the guy obviously but until he took Holland to the World Cup in 2014 playing the best football out of anyone I had nothing but disdain for him. Why he couldn't do the same with man Utd I don't know. I do think he was treated disrespectfully but that's the nature of the beast these days and the crazy amount of money that you're on managing at that level should compensate adequately.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on June 27, 2016, 10:16:19 PM
Hodgson resigning just now, even though it was immediately after Iceland, was too late.

For them, who I don't want to see succeed.

He's a fucking useless man. Always has been. Always will be.

The FA are like those who represent us, Regan and Doncaster, totally unfit for purpose.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on June 27, 2016, 10:30:58 PM
They might luck out and pick someone competent now, however.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on July 20, 2016, 07:11:57 PM
Alardyce to be England manager. That's Sunderland fucked.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on July 20, 2016, 10:39:31 PM
Alardyce to be England manager. That's Sunderland fucked.

Moyes rumoured to be taking over at Sunderland.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on July 21, 2016, 08:14:27 AM
Alardyce to be England manager. That's Sunderland fucked.

Mike Bassett finally turns up
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on July 26, 2016, 03:41:21 PM
Elvis leaves Fleetwood after just nine months on charge. Kept them up as well. Signed 10 new players ahead of their new campaign!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 14, 2016, 11:54:50 PM
Claudio Bravo's contribution for Citey tonight was further proof of Pep's genius.

He knew before he started that Hart was unfit for purpose and got rid.

That's just basic, getting rid of people who aren't good enough to fulfil the objective.

On the other hand McInnes, and the three previous clowns sticking with Langfield was evidence of their incompetence.

A winner - in anything - is ruthless. If he's not good enough, fuck him off.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on September 15, 2016, 09:46:15 AM
Claudio Bravo's contribution for Citey tonight was further proof of Pep's genius.

He knew before he started that Hart was unfit for purpose and got rid.

That's just basic, getting rid of people who aren't good enough to fulfil the objective.

On the other hand McInnes, and the three previous clowns sticking with Langfield was evidence of their incompetence.

A winner - in anything - is ruthless. If he's not good enough, fuck him off.

The two are not comparable. A blind monkey could have seen that Hart was shite and clearly not good enough - did anyone who watched the euros not draw that conclusion (I thought he was pish long before that, but I don't watch a lot of EPL)? When your "scouting" the best players in the world (i.e. known entities) with unlimited funds, it's pretty easy to get rid of players and replace them.

Give Pep zero funds, Jim Leighton as coach and scout, and a team requiring a striker, two midfielders, two fullbacks and a centre half for the first team and then ask him to prioritise because he doesn't have the resources or time to scout and replace them all then see what he does. In the end, whilst it doesn't suit the narrative, McInnes' (not McGhee, Brown or Calderwood before him) decision to give Langfield a contract was entirely vindicated when he went on to have a good season, giving us time and funds to address our midfield, striking and right back positions and in the process win a trophy (even with the: we'll never win anything with Langfield in goals mantra) and finish 6 places higher in the league. The facts speak for themselves, and they don't remotely suggest that Langfield was a good 'keeper, just that there was a system of priorities both on and off the pitch that had to all be dealt with. If we'd not taken in Flood or Robson and replaced Langfield, I don't believe we would have won the cup, same with Rooney and Logan. You also seem to ignore the fact that he also had to "fuck off" Chris Clark, Gavin Rae, Stephen Hughes and so on who weren't good enough to fulfil the objective. McInnes's big mistake was replacing him - and it was meant as a replacement - with Brown. Langfield was a more than adequate number two, and he shouldn't be held to account for the absolutely atrocious signing of a 'keeper who was actually worse than him (see McGhee for a list of fucking awful replacements too). We shouldn't have seen anything of Langfield in that second year, but we brought in a useless cunt. Unfortunately, McInnes' targets aren't on the TV every week so that even a child can see their obvious qualities, so he has to scout lower English league pish. I'd argue that we got lucky with Ward coming available, and whilst Lewis has turned out to be good it was clear with the signing of Alexander that McInnes wasn't 100% confident about him. That shows either that AFC doesn't have good goalkeeper scouting, or that it's a very difficult market to operate in. Probably a bit of both.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 15, 2016, 02:06:57 PM
The two are not comparable. A blind monkey could have seen that Hart was shite and clearly not good enough...

I would agree that Pep and McInnes are not comparable. The size of their wage packet alone tells us that. But almost every man - except bankers and corporate fat cats and politicians ill-gotten "extras" - gets paid what he's worth.

If we speak about priorities and keep on being apologists for the dreadful record of AFC for the last 20+ years then we create the danger of getting the club we deserve. We already have the club we deserve of course but I can't believe that Milne is going to win the war, despite the evidence to the contrary and the pendulum steadily swinging in his favour as each half decade goes by. I have more faith in human nature than you and can't believe that my fellow Aberdonians and North East men are so blind and so stupid.

On the specific, no it was not obvious to everyone including his previous managers and the national manager that Hart was a liability. It was obvious to me that after his first couple of seasons (which were good and then competent) that he was a poor keeper and obviously it was to you but whereas we had FOUR successive managers who kept on picking a total incompetent, Guardiola never picked him at all, before even getting the season underway in earnest.

This is a philosophy difference. You don't pick fucking idiots to represent you. A manager's job is to build the team and to do the best that they can. You don't put in fucking spastics and as my St Mirren mate is telling me, Langfield is a total fucking spastic, as if we didn't know this already, having had to endure him for year after year after year with inevitable consequences. So when you say he had a "good season", I say you're speaking shite because he's NEVER had a good season and it's impossible for him to have one because he lacks the basic skills of the job. I was shocked he saved a penalty at Red Parkhead actually but even a blind squirrel finds a tortoise.

Pep is a genius manager and the fact he got Bravo to join him, to leave Barcelona wasn't going to be down to money alone. As I predicted on this thread more than six months ago, you can give the EPL title for the 2016/17 season to Man City right now, because nobody can compete with the best manager having the best budget.

As the Old Firm proved 30 and 35 years ago and as Leicester proved in May, the best budgets don't always win. It takes skill to administer them. But having the 2nd or 3rd biggest budget in Scotland for the last 25/30 years hasn't brought AFC commensurate rewards and there is a reason for this. If people choose to ignore that fact, there's going to be further despair to come for anyone left who gives a fuck.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on September 15, 2016, 04:11:40 PM
If we speak about priorities and keep on being apologists for the dreadful record of AFC for the last 20+ years then we create the danger of getting the club we deserve. We already have the club we deserve of course but I can't believe that Milne is going to win the war, despite the evidence to the contrary and the pendulum steadily swinging in his favour as each half decade goes by. I have more faith in human nature than you and can't believe that my fellow Aberdonians and North East men are so blind and so stupid.

McInnes's priorities, not Milne's. There's a difference. McInnes was working within Milne's parameters (budget).


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This is a philosophy difference. You don't pick fucking idiots to represent you. A manager's job is to build the team and to do the best that they can. You don't put in fucking spastics and as my St Mirren mate is telling me, Langfield is a total fucking spastic, as if we didn't know this already, having had to endure him for year after year after year with inevitable consequences. So when you say he had a "good season", I say you're speaking shite because he's NEVER had a good season and it's impossible for him to have one because he lacks the basic skills of the job. I was shocked he saved a penalty at Red Parkhead actually but even a blind squirrel finds a tortoise.

I agree with the rest, so I'll try and explain myself on this. Good is a relative term, that season was good by his standards (he also made saves in the Alloa game on the way to the final). It's relative to the other options too. I've always stuck up for Langfield as an average, sometimes above average SPL 'keeper, and I stand by that. That's not what we should be settling for, obviously. We had Rae, Hughes and Clark (possibly still Milsom too). Vernon and Magennis up front, Robertson at left back and Jack at right back. McInnes had a budget, and within that budget we have to assume we had the funds to buy a Brown or a Lewis. The question of priority then goes to the either or scenario. Would we have been better not getting Rooney, Logan or Flood and getting a better goalie? I'd argue that the difference between Langfield and Lewis was significantly less than between Clark and Flood, or Rooney and Vernon. In the end, we dropped Langfield (because he's a total fucking spastic as you say), but downgraded him to Scott fucking Brown. Imagine we'd done that a year earlier, and missed out on Flood or Robson because we were dicking about trying to find two goalies (we had to sign Weaver that season as we ran out of time to address the number two position)? Flood, Robson and Rooney were absolute certainties to walk into our team and make a difference and they had to take priority. Langfield - as proved - was acceptable enough for one season as number one under McInnes (he should have been long gone by that point, but for the incompetence of Brown and McGhee before him). Scott Brown was a worse signing than Langfield's additional contract in my opinion. We'd had a whole year to look at options and came up with a shite one.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 15, 2016, 04:30:28 PM
McInnes's priorities, not Milne's. There's a difference. McInnes was working within Milne's parameters (budget).

There is a difference but presenting the case for the defence for McInnes ignores the bigger and far more important issue.

Plus, he should have seen immediately that Clangers was shite but like his predecessors, isn't good enough at his job to know this. Like Mancini and Pellegrini and Woy re Hart, unlike Pep.


I agree with the rest, so I'll try and explain myself on this.

I've always stuck up for Langfield as an average, sometimes above average SPL 'keeper, and I stand by that. T


That's where we disagree. I find it incredulous that anyone can say that quite frankly.

This is where I get "into trouble" on AFC webchatspeaksites. Yes we can all have opinions on matters which aren't black and white but this is black and the debate has gone. And where there's no debate to be had because we're disputing a fact, the poster that opposes my view should be banned for displaying gross ignorance that disqualifies him from debating on a AFC forum.

But as we've seen with the above-named managers, not everybody knows the art of goalkeeping as well as rocket does so I'll forgive you ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on September 15, 2016, 07:01:05 PM
 ;D I can't believe I'm actually sticking up for him here, I've always thought he was a fucking awful signing, and was raging when Calderwood brought him in but saying he's above average SPL wasn't supposed to be a compliment. Anyway, here's the list of goalies for that season. Forster aside, I'd have been raging had we brought any of these in instead of him (maybe Mannus at a push):

Fraser Forster
Lee Hollis
Rados?aw Cierzniak
Dean Brill / Ryan Esson
Alan Mannus
Michael Fraser
David Cornell / Marian Kello
Craig Samson
Scott Fox
Ben Williams
Jamie MacDonald

Gads, what an horrific bunch of goalies. I'd say Langfield performed better than all of those bar Forster that season, and that really isn't being complimentary. None of the above would have taken us further in the league certainly, but we may just have lost the cup. This is not saying that Langfield is good, it's saying that the standard of 'keeper in the SPL is fucking awful. Apart fae Lewis, he seems decent.

Also, I'm ace at goalies, the best at goalies. I do the best goalies.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 15, 2016, 10:09:44 PM
Comparing Langfield's inadequacies to his peers at the time is folly.

That's like mitigating one clown against others.

They're either competent with the basic skills for the job or they're not.

If not, replace the useless cunt with someone not useless.

Not rocket science.

And if that's too difficult a task for a professional football manager, fuck him off an a.



But until the real problem gets recognised and acted upon, same old same old...

AFC RIP. Disgusting.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on September 26, 2016, 11:13:21 PM
Allardyce under FA investigation after article in Telegrapgh where he attacked his predicesor, Gary Neville and FA. Also allegedly further revelations to come on corruption in the game. Knew it would only be a question of time before this clown made a cunt of it.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on September 27, 2016, 08:56:21 AM
Allardyce under FA investigation after article in Telegrapgh where he attacked his predecessor, Gary Neville and FA. Also allegedly further revelations to come on corruption in the game. Knew it would only be a question of time before this clown made a cunt of it.

Stupidity of people like him astounds me.  Do they honestly think that in this day and age shit like that wouldn't get leaked or investigated?!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 27, 2016, 09:42:09 AM
The BBC nailed Fat Sam in the same programme that they nailed SAF, revealing the precise role of his son Jason in his capacity in Elite Sports Agency. Not that we didn't know about Fergie anyway when the Irish billionaires started to fry him gently and publicly.  Like everything, people shy away from inconvenient truths and would bury their heads in the sand than confront them. But as the FA, they have no excuse for not pursuing and exhausting the allegations exposed in that programme which again involved the son formula of stealing from the manager's employer.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on September 27, 2016, 07:50:19 PM
Allarydyce sacked by England. Southgate in charge for next 4 games.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 27, 2016, 07:51:59 PM
Corroupt fat Sam has gone. Hahahahahahaha...

Go on you useless muppets. Appoint Southgate. I dare ye. I double dare ye.

Fuck England.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on September 27, 2016, 08:18:41 PM
Southgate!?!? Fuck me  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 27, 2016, 08:25:15 PM
Southgate!?!? Fuck me  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Think about it. There are ZERO other Engerlish candidates. That's how pish they are.

The beauty is, corroupt Sam might have been successful. He's got cunt about him, an essential ingredient.

You couldn't make this up. Beautiful aesthetics beyond perfection.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on September 27, 2016, 09:26:47 PM
Think about it. There are ZERO other Engerlish candidates. That's how pish they are.

The beauty is, corroupt Sam might have been successful. He's got cunt about him, an essential ingredient.

You couldn't make this up. Beautiful aesthetics beyond perfection.

Oh o agree completely,  they would have done well. Thank fuck for this!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on September 28, 2016, 08:25:35 AM
Well sounds like this is only the tip of the iceberg. 8 current abd former premier league managers all implicated with taking bungs. What's your bets Redknapp and pardew are amongst them?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on September 28, 2016, 08:37:20 AM
Well sounds like this is only the tip of the iceberg. 8 current abd former premier league managers all implicated with taking bungs. What's your bets Redknapp and pardew are amongst them?

Also got a current assistant manager taking a £5k bribe.

Would not bet against Pardew and Rednap being involved.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on September 29, 2016, 01:24:47 PM
https://www.facebook.com/ynfafootball/videos/1142166205820273/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED (https://www.facebook.com/ynfafootball/videos/1142166205820273/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED)

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on September 30, 2016, 12:23:54 AM
Oh Black  >:(
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 30, 2016, 07:03:29 AM
Oh Black  >:(

I feel sorry for him. He works in an environment that is totally corrupt. His best boss, SAF, was the greediest of them all. It's not like he took any bungs. He just told the entrappers how the system works.

When big governments are so corrupt that money is being stolen from the people by the billions, most notably through the industrial war machine, banks, pharmas and civil engineering/building let alone directly from the public sector via contracts, grants and quangos, it is no surprise that the prevailing culture is similarly corrupt and dominated by greed. It's human nature, to get off with whatever we can. Trump thinks it's "smart" but credit to Chris Coleman, a last bastion of integrity and a blower of the whistle for saying it how it is. It is tantamount to stealing. They're all thiefs, or at least those of them in a position of influence to be offered the bribes and corrupt enough by nature to take them.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on September 30, 2016, 07:23:25 AM
For any budding entrepreneurs out there, let me tell you how important integrity is.

I stopped working for the man aged 32 and have earned on my own steam for a long time. In my early days, a Finance Director offered for me to take back my invoice I was presenting him with and to more than double it. Before we even got to the discussion of what he wanted as a cut, my instinct took over. "No, I'll tell you what instead. You pay that invoice and you pay it fucking quick or your boss is going to learn of this conversation".

As I left the premises and with a two hour drive home, that was plenty opportunity to toss and turn. It was a lot of money he was offering, I could have used it at the time and nobody need have known and nobody would have died. It's not like he even had anything on me because he would've been in it deeper than me. I could have claimed inexperienced new self-employed dude doing what he was told by a big wig in an important big client who was almost double my age, not that it would ever have been traced.

But you make your own luck in this world and that one day has gifted me fortune since. I kept that firm as a client and they kept on paying me quick. I must admit I charged an extra 10 or 20% to them after that but it was all in writing in advance of doing the work, something I've always done, however big or small the consideration. Go down the slippery road once and you'll always be a thief. It's not "God" as we know it but life karma and yin or yang will strike down the wrongdoer at some point. Fat corroupt Sam's demise is nothing compared to the inevitable catalogue of disgrace heading towards Sir Alex, hopefully in his lifetime rather than posthumously. I want to see his face when he gets nailed.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 03, 2016, 01:21:59 PM
Unsurprisingly, both Villa and Swansea have sack Di Matteo and Guidolin respectively.  I was surprised by Swansea's appointment of him in the first place.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 04, 2016, 11:15:50 PM
Cardiff sack Paul Trollop and replace him with Neil Warnock.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 05, 2016, 01:14:01 PM
Cardiff sack Paul Trollop and replace him with Neil Warnock.

His 15th club  :o

Personally, i can't stand him. He's been putting himself around a lot since leave Sheffield United.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 05, 2016, 01:22:55 PM
His 15th club  :o

Personally, i can't stand him. He's been putting himself around a lot since leave Sheffield United.

Warnock is another I suspect will be among the unnamed managers from the Telegraph investigation. Cannot see him lasting long at Cardiff.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on October 05, 2016, 06:03:57 PM
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Warnock's reputation started poorly with Bury fans and finally was destroyed when he was seen wearing a Sheffield Utd tie for an interview at Gigg Lane before a match against them. He had the accolade of receiving abuse from the whole stadium when Bury played away to Oldham Athletic where he was held in similar regard

Couldn't happen to a nicer club (Fucking soul crew muppets)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 06, 2016, 08:31:06 AM
Couldn't happen to a nicer club (Fucking soul crew muppets)

Did not know that, what an absolute fud! Mind you, that's magoo-esque... >:(
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: flooter on October 06, 2016, 02:21:50 PM
For any budding entrepreneurs out there, let me tell you how important integrity is.

I stopped working for the man aged 32 and have earned on my own steam for a long time. In my early days, a Finance Director offered for me to take back my invoice I was presenting him with and to more than double it. Before we even got to the discussion of what he wanted as a cut, my instinct took over. "No, I'll tell you what instead. You pay that invoice and you pay it fucking quick or your boss is going to learn of this conversation".

As I left the premises and with a two hour drive home, that was plenty opportunity to toss and turn. It was a lot of money he was offering, I could have used it at the time and nobody need have known and nobody would have died. It's not like he even had anything on me because he would've been in it deeper than me. I could have claimed inexperienced new self-employed dude doing what he was told by a big wig in an important big client who was almost double my age, not that it would ever have been traced.

But you make your own luck in this world and that one day has gifted me fortune since. I kept that firm as a client and they kept on paying me quick. I must admit I charged an extra 10 or 20% to them after that but it was all in writing in advance of doing the work, something I've always done, however big or small the consideration. Go down the slippery road once and you'll always be a thief. It's not "God" as we know it but life karma and yin or yang will strike down the wrongdoer at some point. Fat corroupt Sam's demise is nothing compared to the inevitable catalogue of disgrace heading towards Sir Alex, hopefully in his lifetime rather than posthumously. I want to see his face when he gets nailed.
Whats your problem with Fergie?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on October 06, 2016, 02:47:40 PM
Whats your problem with Fergie?

Judas cunt left the dons.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 06, 2016, 03:30:57 PM
Whats your problem with Fergie?

Being at Gothenburg was the best 24 hours of my life. Better than the day I married this woman I've been with for over 30 years. Better than the birthdays of our four kids. So I am extremely grateful that SAF hit our club.

I've read his unauthorised biography. I've heard what he got up to in Aberdeen. I have mates who have told me how he was in their company. I've been told by a source I would trust with my life what happened at St Mirren. I've seen what happened when Coolmore upped their stake to nearly 30% of the shares of Man U. I watched the BBC documentary 10 years ago.

I don't have a problem with his ability. He was the best manager ever. I value integrity over ability, that's all. And when there are question-marks over his honesty and integrity, should this prove to be founded, I would loov it if justice comes out. Way too many smokestacks over many decades for there not to be a fire.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on October 07, 2016, 11:05:32 AM
Would you be kind enough to share what you've heard about him? Would be very intriguing to read tbh be honest.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 07, 2016, 11:21:32 AM
Would you be kind enough to share what you've heard about him? Would be very intriguing to read tbh be honest.

Read his biography. The one that was unauthorised. SAF is extremely litigious but his lawyers told him there was nothing they could do. The only defence to libel or slander is veritas i.e. it's true.

As for the documentary, that was 2006 Panorama. May be on YouTube?

Or just google SAF dirt or corruption allegations. Or Rock of Gibraltar. That was the reason he fell out with Coolmore. He got greedy alleging he was entitled to breeding rights. I reckon the Irish mafia may well have been behind the timing of the Panorama as the timing was too sweet, coming as it was with the drip feeding to the tabloids.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on October 07, 2016, 02:32:58 PM
Its the St Mirren story I'd be interested hearing. I remember him winning promotion with them to the Premier League and being fired within days. We then appointed him fairly sharpish, my old man ( a diehard Clyde fanatic) said we would regret it, hinting that he knew something but never expanded on it and died at a young age without me ever getting to question him about what info he had on Fergie.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on October 07, 2016, 02:41:32 PM
Its the St Mirren story I'd be interested hearing. I remember him winning promotion with them to the Premier League and being fired within days. We then appointed him fairly sharpish, my old man ( a diehard Clyde fanatic) said we would regret it, hinting that he knew something but never expanded on it and died at a young age without me ever getting to question him about what info he had on Fergie.

There are all sorts of stories about the end of his time at St Mirren, but this is their official version as told by the then chairman. Funnily enough there was a story doing the rounds that he was sacked for swearing at, or in front of the chairman's wife, and refusing to apologise, hence Mr Todd sacked him

· 'I had no option but to sack him in the end'
· Willie Todd was the chairman of St Mirren and remains the only man to have dismissed Sir Alex Ferguson

I was the chairman who brought Alex to St Mirren in 1974 and people forget that we actually struggled for the first two years he was in charge. He had a very bad start. But Alex gradually got things together, basically because he brought so many good, young players to the club. The likes of Frank McGarvey, Bobby Reid and Billy Stark meant we had a young team but a successful one which got us out of the old First Division and into the Premier League.

We stayed in the Premier League in season 1977-78 and that was a big achievement. Crowds had been as low as 1,000 when Alex took over; in his last season we sometimes had gates of 20,000 plus.

Alex did a great job for St Mirren. Nobody at the club worked harder than he did during the time he was there and everyone was very grateful for what he achieved. I got on well with Alex at the time, we were good friends and I have seen him a few times since. We have still been on good terms and I have been delighted at how well he has done. But in 1978 it was a simple case of myself, as chairman, doing what was best for the football club. I had no option but to sack him in the end.

Four days before he eventually left I knew perfectly well that he had told all the staff that he was moving to Aberdeen. A famous reporter of the time, Jim Rodger of the Daily Mirror, told us that Alex had asked at least one member of the squad to go to Aberdeen with him.

It was a clear breach of contract on his part; he was still under contract to St Mirren and Aberdeen had not contacted us to discuss compensation. There were various other stories at the time, such as one about Alex wanting players to receive tax-free expenses, but that was not the real issue. The issue was St Mirren being destabilised because the manager wanted to leave.

In the end the case went to an industrial tribunal because Alex thought he had been sacked unfairly and St Mirren won hands down, on every count relating to his breach of contract; the minutes of that meeting show you that.

I do regret it. As I said we got on very well. It was just a pity Aberdeen had not come out and said they wanted our manager because we could then have spoken about compensation and done things amicably.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 08, 2016, 09:55:27 AM
I think the St Mirren regret of sacking him came much later. At the time they had no option. If the stuff in the unauthorised biography were untrue, it wouldn't have made it to the shelves.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on October 08, 2016, 06:05:44 PM
Pearson away from Derby by mutual agreement.
Could well presented The Breadman with his ticket out of Ibrox.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on October 08, 2016, 06:13:59 PM
Pearson away from Derby by mutual agreement.
Could well presented The Breadman with his ticket out of Ibrox.
I think he would jump at the chance Al.  Derby is a pretty big club capable of getting to, and surviving in, the top flight with the right guy at the helm.  I'm not for a second saying he is that man but he will think he is.  If he does go there's going to be some hun interest in DM at the very least but I'm not convinced he'd be a shoe in for it though.  If the horribles have any sense they will be wanting a chat with Tommy Wright as well. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on October 08, 2016, 06:22:26 PM
Tommy Wright would be cheaper option for them and fits the bill as Northern Irish.

Could they afford Del, Doc & Kirk all of whom would require compensation being paid to us.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on October 08, 2016, 07:22:45 PM
Tommy Wright would be cheaper option for them and fits the bill as Northern Irish.

Could they afford Del, Doc & Kirk all of whom would require compensation being paid to us.

 I really hope mcinnes is offered the rangers gig and tells them to piss off.

Possibly wishful thinking but it'd be hilarious.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Stewart on October 19, 2016, 03:23:27 PM
Stubbs oot at Rotherham.

That didn't last long.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on October 19, 2016, 09:56:57 PM
Shrewsbury want Archibald at Plastic Whistle as their new gaffer. If he takes it whats the odds on Stubbs getting the Thistle gig
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 03, 2016, 10:55:57 PM
This yank at Swansea is the biggest joke I've ever seen in football management.

Even Stewrat Milne hasn't been this duped. How the fuck did he get past an interview?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 04, 2016, 09:06:31 AM
The manager he replaced had a better record did he not?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 22, 2016, 06:37:38 PM
Unsurprisingly, pardew has been sacked. They've been on a terrible run of form, confused substitutions and under performing squad after spending money in te summer. None of my palace mates will be sad to see him go, appear to be very hopeful on fat Sam taking over.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on December 22, 2016, 09:07:24 PM
Unsurprisingly, pardew has been sacked. They've been on a terrible run of form, confused substitutions and under performing squad after spending money in te summer. None of my palace mates will be sad to see him go, appear to be very hopeful on fat Sam taking over.

Amazed that a corrupt cunt like Allardyce is still going to be employed in football.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 23, 2016, 07:51:00 AM
Amazed that a corrupt cunt like Allardyce is still going to be employed in football.

Absolutely but it shows the dearth of managerial talent available in England. Money and league status talks, he'd save them. Funny how folk have such short memories in football though.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Garlogie_Granite on December 23, 2016, 08:14:50 PM
Amazed that a corrupt cunt like Allardyce is still going to be employed in football.
not surprised at all Jute min. The guy is far and away the best manager in England, he's improved every team he's been at, never been relegated despite never being in charge of a "big" team

You have to wonder what nonsense he'd have done at Bolton when he had them 3rd at xmas and looking to Champions League, only for the then board to tell him he was getting fuckalll to spend in Janaury?

Anyway, thats my contribution to guffy fitba spikkin, heap o overrated pish that hurts our game with all its overt shirt wearing fanboys
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 23, 2016, 09:43:59 PM
Allardyce confirmed at Palace.
Here's hoping the cunts go down
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 27, 2016, 07:52:17 PM
Bob Bradley  :rofl2:

Lasted all of 85 days
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 27, 2016, 08:24:55 PM
Should have stuck it out with Johnny foreigner beforehand. Think he had a better record did he not???
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on December 27, 2016, 08:48:18 PM
Should have stuck it out with Johnny foreigner beforehand. Think he had a better record did he not???

Yep, sure he did Manc
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 27, 2016, 09:11:46 PM
Yep, sure he did Manc

Was a daft decision in the first place by the yanks. Ach well, Swansea have a decent enough team, depends on who they get in though.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on December 27, 2016, 10:27:07 PM
Was a daft decision in the first place by the yanks. Achieve well, Swansea have a decent enough team, depends on who they get in though.

Might well go for Pardew.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on February 16, 2017, 08:09:42 PM
Announced Winger leaving Arsenal completely at end of the season
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 17, 2017, 08:15:59 AM
Announced Winger leaving Arsenal completely at end of the season

Holy shit, really? Not surprising and absolutely the right thing to do buy surprised he's decided it was time
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on February 17, 2017, 03:03:13 PM
Announced Winger leaving Arsenal completely at end of the season

Which one? Walcott?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 23, 2017, 08:16:32 PM
Ranieri sacked by Leicester City.

Edit: wonder what the odds would have been on Leicester to get relegated and Ranieri sacked at the start of the season.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on February 23, 2017, 08:17:03 PM
Ranieri sacked. Deserved better. Hope they get sacked after all he did for them.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: OxfordDon on February 23, 2017, 08:32:07 PM
What they need now is an inspirational manager - one with a record of defying seemingly insurmountable odds, of achieving the impossible, one who will gain such success and riches for the club that his very name will become legend amongst supporters.

If they hurry and phone down to the front desk, he might not have had time to leave the building yet.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: PompeyDon on February 23, 2017, 08:33:59 PM
The Knuckledraggers are on the case.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/632807/optimistic-rangers-fans-want-claudio-ranieri-at-ibrox-after-the-italian-was-sacked-by-leicester-city/

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: OxfordDon on February 23, 2017, 08:38:44 PM
The Knuckledraggers are on the case.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/632807/optimistic-rangers-fans-want-claudio-ranieri-at-ibrox-after-the-italian-was-sacked-by-leicester-city/

some of those tweets have timestamps later than the timestamp of the story - clear case of write the headline then fill in the rest later
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 23, 2017, 09:03:36 PM
Haha I was joking when the news broke I wondered when the Huns would be linked with him. Hunbelievable  :rofl:

Anyway, I hope Leicester get relegated now. Cunts.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: 1903_Redz on February 24, 2017, 02:35:36 AM
I mentioned the Ranieri situation the other day in the FA Cup thread, Leicester were definitely in an unenviable position, damned if they did sack him, damned if they didn't sack him because with him at the helm they were going down. Shame all the same that he made those players champions and that's how they repay him. Vardy and his mates need to take a look at themselves.  :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on February 24, 2017, 08:24:05 AM
Fuck them. Hope they go down now. Fucking cowards.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on February 24, 2017, 10:43:20 AM
Just goes to show how much TV money rules in English football.
Leicester patently terrified of relegation giving the cash on offer in EPL
In years gone by Ranieri achieving the supposed unachievable last season would have earned him time with those running the club. This is no longer the case and club's will take desperate measures to remain in the land of milk and honey.

As others have said fuck LCFC. Ranieri will move on, of that I have little doubt
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on February 24, 2017, 11:05:57 AM
Doesn't surprise me, neither the decision to sack nor the outrage about the decision.

The biggest surprise to me, and indeed everyone was that they won the EPL although some fan stuck a fiver on at 5,000/1.

Ranieri is another who's had too many clubs. There will be specific reasons for his lack of longevity. His managerial achievements have been pretty sparse actually which made last season even more surprising.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on February 24, 2017, 12:11:09 PM
There's no room for sentimentality in football. End of story. They have been awful for months and if they stay up it will have been the right decision.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: OxfordDon on February 24, 2017, 02:17:19 PM
There's no room for sentimentality in football. End of story. They have been awful for months and if they stay up it will have been the right decision.

Ironically, i would say that traditionally sentimentality is the very lifeblood of football, as the majority of fans are attached to their clubs through an irrational personal bond, regardless of how shite or well they are doing. 

It's why former players are often the first to be touted for managerial positions, and why potential signings to or from traditionally rival clubs can be met with huge resistance ("he's a hun" etc).

However, the more that corporate (TV) money replaces fan-generated money, the more that will influence a club's decisions over what the fans think, and as you rightly say, corporations have no room for sentimentality.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on February 24, 2017, 02:37:43 PM
Ironically, i would say that traditionally sentimentality is the very lifeblood of football, as the majority of fans are attached to their clubs through an irrational personal bond, regardless of how shite or well they are doing. 

It's why former players are often the first to be touted for managerial positions, and why potential signings to or from traditionally rival clubs can be met with huge resistance ("he's a hun" etc).

However, the more that corporate (TV) money replaces fan-generated money, the more that will influence a club's decisions over what the fans think, and as you rightly say, corporations have no room for sentimentality.

I had drafted something very similar over lunch, but wasn't really happy with the coherence of it, think emotions got in the way.  You've put it much more succinctly   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on February 24, 2017, 03:43:27 PM
Ironically, i would say that traditionally sentimentality is the very lifeblood of football, as the majority of fans are attached to their clubs through an irrational personal bond, regardless of how shite or well they are doing. 

It's why former players are often the first to be touted for managerial positions, and why potential signings to or from traditionally rival clubs can be met with huge resistance ("he's a hun" etc).

However, the more that corporate (TV) money replaces fan-generated money, the more that will influence a club's decisions over what the fans think, and as you rightly say, corporations have no room for sentimentality.

If that bit in bold were true - and I'm not saying it isn't - then how do you explain the lack of "traditional sentimentality" shown to the board of AFC over the last 20+ years?

Why didn't the fans object to Milne and let him know what they thought?

Did they not see what he was doing? Did they think he's been operating with the club's best interests at heart?

Why have the majority of us not voiced our concerns over this very extended period?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on March 10, 2017, 07:23:20 PM
See Alex Neil has been "resigned (tm The Sevco, 2017)" by Norwich.

Bet The Sevco are sick.

I reckon they saw Neil has a cheap option that might make them look ambitious to their zombie followers.

Lovely that Norwich have seen through that and held onto him until it was certain they could not get compo for a failing manager, before punting him.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on March 11, 2017, 12:31:34 AM
See Alex Neil has been "resigned (tm The Sevco, 2017)" by Norwich.

Bet The Sevco are sick.

I reckon they saw Neil has a cheap option that might make them look ambitious to their zombie followers.

Lovely that Norwich have seen through that and held onto him until it was certain they could not get compo for a failing manager, before punting him.

Neil is a Roman Catholic from Coatbridge. I doubt even the most progressive of sevco boardmembers would have thought he was the answer to their managerial conundrum however cheap an option he may have been.

What odds he is however unveiled as Motherwell manager by midweek


Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: baggy89 on March 11, 2017, 09:01:02 AM
Fair enough, but he was favourite at one point.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Sand dan Glokta on March 13, 2017, 10:55:14 AM
Neil is a Roman Catholic from Coatbridge. I doubt even the most progressive of sevco boardmembers would have thought he was the answer to their managerial conundrum however cheap an option he may have been.

What odds he is however unveiled as Motherwell manager by midweek

Never. He' a cut above them.

Wouldn't mind him at us if McInnes ever left. He's about the only guy out there I can think of who could do a job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on March 13, 2017, 11:15:22 AM


Wouldn't mind him at us if McInnes ever left. He's about the only guy out there I can think of who could do a job.

Agreed :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on March 13, 2017, 05:42:09 PM
I've got a ever growing admiration for Archibald.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on March 13, 2017, 08:56:18 PM
I've got a ever growing admiration for Archibald.

By admiration, do you mean boner?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on March 14, 2017, 02:18:42 AM
Never. He' a cut above them.

Wouldn't mind him at us if McInnes ever left. He's about the only guy out there I can think of who could do a job.

Said it before and I'll say it again. Unless McLeish is at a bigger club than us at the time of Deeks inevitable departure ( which i think will be at the end of his current contract at the absolute latest ) then it is written in the stars that he will come home.

It will be a pretty uninspiring appointment but hes a relatively safe if boring pair of hands. The oldco connection will not be forgotten and his tenure will be relatively brief...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on March 15, 2017, 08:43:47 AM
Fucking hell, Theo. That's cheered me right up.  :-[
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: 1903_Redz on March 15, 2017, 04:23:32 PM
I'd hate to see McLeish back at us a manager! He strikes me as having embraced the weegie mentality and sees himself as being better than us. He just comes across wrong any time i've seen him on the box lately, it's like he's pissed or suffering the heebie jeebies!

I noticed Steve McLaren got sacked yet again the other night.... how many times does that guy need to be sacked after a short time in charge for clubs to realise he's just a shit manager?!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: MDred on March 16, 2017, 11:36:19 AM
Karanka pumped at Boro, another yoyo team who think they should be better placed.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 02, 2017, 01:43:12 PM
I see Norwich are sniffing about Michael O'Neil, he'd have been one of my choices to replace DM when he eventually decides to move on.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 02, 2017, 02:10:06 PM
I see Norwich are sniffing about Michael O'Neil, he'd have been one of my choices to replace DM when he eventually decides to move on.

We could never have the ambition to approach someone as good as O'Neill. We wouldn't make that type of investment.

I don't see McInnes as being so good or demand for him ever being big enough that HE decides to move on. Sack the man after agreeing terms with Lennon is what I'd like to see.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: donsdaft on May 02, 2017, 05:22:41 PM
Lennon?

We're getting well into "I'm nae gaun back" territory there.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 02, 2017, 05:38:21 PM
Lennon?

We're getting well into "I'm nae gaun back" territory there.

New stadium in Kingsford, Lennon as manager, Diamond as captain...what could deter you from going?!?  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on May 02, 2017, 05:40:00 PM
Norn Irn are paying O'Neill wages far in excess of what Scotland are paying the wee ginger shyte. So i doubt hes a viable replacement when the inevitable time comes. FWIW if the sevco Portuguese experiment is cut short in the next 12 months (probably less) and they come sniffing around Deek I'd be tempted to take the million quid compo and if Alex Neil is stiil out a job give him a shottie
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: donsdaft on May 02, 2017, 06:09:30 PM
New stadium in Kingsford, Lennon as manager, Diamond as captain...what could deter you from going?!?  ;D



We could take Foster back.
Or even better, borrow a player from Sevco and make him captain.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: francis_begbie on May 07, 2017, 09:47:05 AM
Norn Irn are paying O'Neill wages far in excess of what Scotland are paying the wee ginger shyte. So i doubt hes a viable replacement when the inevitable time comes. FWIW if the sevco Portuguese experiment is cut short in the next 12 months (probably less) and they come sniffing around Deek I'd be tempted to take the million quid compo and if Alex Neil is stiil out a job give him a shottie

I'd deffo insist on used bank notes if it comes to compo from that lot.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 17, 2017, 02:01:04 PM
Mazzarri offski from Watford. Seemed like a very unfashionable manager, but quite a good match for Watford.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 22, 2017, 06:43:44 PM
David moyes. Hard to see where hell go next, will surely have to drop down the leagues?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: topcorner on May 22, 2017, 09:10:29 PM
David moyes. Hard to see where hell go next, will surely have to drop down the leagues?

Next Scotland manager once Strachan gets the boot next month.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 22, 2017, 09:34:42 PM
Next Scotland manager once Strachan gets the boot next month.

Probably not a bad shout actually.  Saw a few twitter comments linking him with the huns  :rofl:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 23, 2017, 02:30:24 PM
McInnes linked with the Sunderland job this morning.  Absolute basket case of a club.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 23, 2017, 02:33:32 PM
McInnes linked with the Sunderland job this morning.  Absolute basket case of a club.

Was hearing this yesterday. Can't see it. Not an appointment that the Sunderland fans would get behind at all I don't think.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 23, 2017, 02:36:22 PM
Was hearing this yesterday. Can't see it. Not an appointment that the Sunderland fans would get behind at all I don't think.

It's maybe that sort of appointment they should get behind. They've had the big names, they've had the seasoned EPL managers and it's still not enough. Maybe a realisation of exactly where they are would really help them.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 23, 2017, 02:47:13 PM
It's maybe that sort of appointment they should get behind. They've had the big names, they've had the seasoned EPL managers and it's still not enough. Maybe a realisation of exactly where they are would really help them.

I don't disagree with any of that but let's face it.. football fans aren't known for their intellect. Especially not fans from that neck of the woods.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ApbRL9-slqI/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 23, 2017, 02:50:04 PM
'Mon the horse!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on May 23, 2017, 09:09:56 PM
Allardyce just quit Crystal Palace.

Sunderland beckoning?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 23, 2017, 09:13:29 PM
Allardyce just quit Crystal Palace.

Sunderland beckoning?

Seriously didn't see that one coming  :o

Given they've got a decent amount of cash I'm surprised.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 23, 2017, 09:37:57 PM
Sounds like he's taking a step back from the game for a while at least.  Can't say I blame him given the year he's had.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: donsdaft on May 24, 2017, 12:50:08 PM
If ever there was a wide boy..........

Probably been caught on the fiddle again.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 30, 2017, 02:05:34 PM
Wenger signed a new two year deal.  Should have left imo.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on May 30, 2017, 02:15:11 PM
Tony Adams and some bizarre comments about Wenger:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/29/tony-adams-arsenal-arsene-wenger-board

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 31, 2017, 02:26:08 PM
Wenger signed a new two year deal.  Should have left imo.

If ever there was a man screaming to be put out of his misery, it was Arsene.

A thoroughly bizarre decision. It's obvious to everyone that Wenger can't win the league.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on June 02, 2017, 10:54:25 AM
If ever there was a man screaming to be put out of his misery, it was Arsene.

A thoroughly bizarre decision. It's obvious to everyone that Wenger can't win the league.


Aye but I suspect whilst Arsenal remains a consistent and profitable organisation Stan Kronke will be quite happy to not rock the boat whilst it's making him money. He's nae interested in gambling on a new appointment obviously.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 09, 2017, 05:48:24 PM
Monk appointed as Boro' manager, that's one off the list of potential Sunderland managers.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on June 22, 2017, 05:21:16 PM
Frank de Boer about to be Crystal Palace manager, interesting to see how he gets on.  Huns must be gutted  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on July 04, 2017, 06:12:19 PM
Alex Neil appointed manager at Preston. Suspect this will probably end our interest in May.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on July 04, 2017, 08:28:12 PM
Alex Neil appointed manager at Preston. Suspect this will probably end our interest in May.

I disagree like. I'm not convinced Neil will think he'll be able to get enough out of May to get him to perform in that league. Certain players just don't gel in specific leagues, and I reckon May is one of them.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on July 05, 2017, 12:06:21 AM
I disagree like. I'm not convinced Neil will think he'll be able to get enough out of May to get him to perform in that league. Certain players just don't gel in specific leagues, and I reckon May is one of them.

May did well at Sheffield Wednesday scoring 7 goals in 26 starts and 13 sub appearances in the same league so not sure where you are coming from there.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: MDred on July 05, 2017, 12:07:36 PM
May did well at Sheffield Wednesday scoring 7 goals in 26 starts and 13 sub appearances in the same league so not sure where you are coming from there.

Hardly prolific then.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on July 05, 2017, 12:26:10 PM
Hardly prolific then.

Aye, that was my thought. From memory, they tried to play him into form at Wednesday hence the number of games but it didn't really work. I think Neil will want someone better.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on July 05, 2017, 07:42:07 PM
You could argue Neil will know him better and how to get the best out of him.  You could see him giving Tommy Wright a call about it.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on July 05, 2017, 08:00:04 PM
You could argue Neil will know him better and how to get the best out of him.  You could see him giving Tommy Wright a call about it.

Aye, I don't see it. He'd have to gamble on getting a hell of a lot more out of him. Depends on budget of course, but I don't see him offering him anything more than a sub role.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on August 27, 2017, 05:55:32 PM
After that woeful performance at Anfield, Arsene has to go.

If the Gooners don't demand his head, they only have themselves to blame.

Not even Thierry Henry tried to defend the abjectness of their failings.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 17, 2017, 07:29:49 PM
Craig Shakespeare sacked by Leicester.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on October 17, 2017, 07:52:36 PM
Craig Shakespeare sacked by Leicester.

The ides of October.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on October 17, 2017, 08:58:30 PM
Apparently they'll let his sister stay.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on October 18, 2017, 08:41:36 AM
Apparently they'll let his sister stay.

Tune min.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 23, 2017, 01:42:58 PM
Koeman punted by Everton according to the BBC.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Edinburghdon on October 23, 2017, 01:52:22 PM
Probably not for Everton given his history with Liverpool but with all the talk of some premiership managers being under threat of the axe it got me wondering if Rodgers stock is high enough again to be linked with any jobs that do start to come up.

There’s been lots of talk about McInnes jumping ship, next to nothing about Rodgers attracting interest which is strange given the job he’s been doing.

Would certainly help if he does start attracting attention, could impact Celtics season quite significantly if either him or his squad is unsettled by rumours.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: francis_begbie on October 23, 2017, 02:48:25 PM
Moyes for Everton?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on October 23, 2017, 03:18:33 PM
Koeman punted by Everton according to the BBC.

Can't really say that that comes as any great surprise
Cue NewCo supporters shouting for his appointment ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on October 23, 2017, 03:19:27 PM
Moyes for Everton?

Definitely not according to the Rhecord

But McInnes.....I'd be amazed if they don't at least want to talk to him
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 23, 2017, 06:03:18 PM
Definitely not according to the Rhecord

But McInnes.....I'd be amazed if they don't at least want to talk to him

The weegie press will have a field day. Perfect timing.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on October 23, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Definitely not according to the Rhecord

But McInnes.....I'd be amazed if they don't at least want to talk to him

I would be very surprised if McInnes was on their radar to be honest.
Reckon best Del would get is championship club.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on October 23, 2017, 07:35:42 PM
I think he is a shoo in for West Brom if he is still with us next time that one comes up. Everton might possibly be a stretch but there really arent many managers around right now whose stock is higher. Certainly as British managers go
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on October 23, 2017, 09:01:34 PM
Steve Clark just in at killie is shorter odds than DM.  Not very worried
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on October 31, 2017, 09:59:33 PM
Well Grayson didnt last very long at Sunderland
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 31, 2017, 10:04:53 PM
Well Grayson didnt last very long at Sunderland

That's mental.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on October 31, 2017, 10:07:47 PM
Well Grayson didnt last very long at Sunderland

Wonder if they would be mad enough to give Fanny McCoist a shottie?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 31, 2017, 10:19:57 PM
Wonder if they would be mad enough to give Fanny McCoist a shottie?

Allerdyce would be my bet.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on November 01, 2017, 08:38:42 AM
Allerdyce would be my bet.


They'd need to pay Palace £2m quid just to give him a job. Da ken about that. Maybe Pardew?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on November 01, 2017, 08:39:11 AM
Also I think you'll find Big Sam is a big Rangers fan and it's a dream come true to accept the Rangers job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on November 01, 2017, 09:21:57 AM
Allardyce to Everton seems far more likely.....no way are sevco whacking out 2 million compo before they even speak to someone and then there are his wages to negotiate....could anyone see him doing it for less than Brenda? So there's 2.5 million (min) per year. I doubt Big Sam would really give 2 fucks if sevco finished first or in a relegation place as long as he got his pay but he would certainly demand a token transfer budget in order to make it look like he wanted to seriously challenge the dhims....so probably an initial 10 million in January and at least the same next summer.....

Billy Davies it is then...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on November 01, 2017, 10:39:36 AM
There was a time a year or two ago (or whenever Big Sam was at West Ham) that he was one of the top 5 paid managers in the world. Absolutely mental. But aye I'm sure he'd be honoured to work for the huns for a pittance.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: toon_don on November 01, 2017, 05:41:10 PM
Well Sunderland are currently looking for a new manager. Was thinking of poppin on me suit and gannin to an interview  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 02, 2017, 12:01:43 AM
The problem with Jurgen Klopp is one of ego. He’s never a top manager. He loves the camera too much.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on November 04, 2017, 10:50:59 PM
Match of the Day suggesting Bilic has been sacked.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 04, 2017, 11:14:20 PM
Match of the Day suggesting Bilic has been sacked.

Not surprising. I switched over to Jools after Bilic’s interview. It was so bad. A dead man limping. He was surprisingly stupid, a very broken man. He wasn’t even incoherent. He just couldn’t think straight. Poor bastard.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on November 06, 2017, 11:42:04 AM
Match of the Day suggesting Bilic has been sacked.

Confirmed now.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on November 07, 2017, 12:39:03 PM
West Ham appoint Moyes until the end of the season to replace Bilic.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 08, 2017, 02:21:37 AM
West Ham appoint Moyes until the end of the season to replace Bilic.

Make or break for him imo. Could be his last job in England if he fucks this one up.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: kiriakovisthenewstrachan on November 09, 2017, 12:30:33 PM
Moyes is a good manager but he needs some media training.  Going on the TV and saying he wants the West Ham job before Billic was sacked was poor show and didn't show much class.

He seems to have a knack of picking the wrong jobs recently though.  Man Utd, although he would have been mad to turn it down, came at a time when a lot of the players were getting towards their twilight years and the board just didn't seem to want to back him with cash the way they have with Van Gaal and Mourinho.

The job in Spain was always going to end in disaster and Sunderland........well, look where they are now.

Hope he does well at West Ham because Scotland's managerial reputation in England at the moment is not great.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 14, 2017, 02:00:39 AM
Magoo named as Barnet boss. At least he's finally found his level.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 14, 2017, 02:31:27 AM
Magoo named as Barnet boss. At least he's finally found his level.

Harsh. I’ve heard they’re nice people at Barnet. They don’t deserve that cunt.

They’re just not very good at recruiting, that’s all. Like many, they can’t read a man.

People skills is ambiguous. For most it means skill in managing people. Exploiting them. Getting the most out of them. Paying them less than they’re worth. I’m not very good at that.

But my people skills are razor fucking sharp. If you consider my definition. The skill of understanding people, of seeing what they’re made of, seeing right through them, being able to spot the charlatan, the lazy bastard and the good guys just from eye contact, smell and feel. Sensory perceptions are mostly inexplicable, being of another realm. Teach your kids to use their instincts people. They were born with it. By like everything, we use it or we lose it.

McGhee's level is not in management, at any level. There will be good men choking in his presence.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on November 14, 2017, 01:52:29 PM
McGhee has great interpersonal skills, which is why I'd hire him. According to wikipedia anyway.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 16, 2017, 09:07:11 AM
Shankly: Nature’s Fire, available now on BBC iPlayer.

You MUST watch this if you’re interested in any of the following subjects;

Football
People
Life
Inspiration
Devotion
Achievement
Success
Change

He was the best manager ever in my opinion.

Before the imbecile wades in with infantile “banter”, remember that “best” requires definition first. I didn’t say that he was the most successful.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nips_and_Tatties on November 16, 2017, 09:41:35 AM
Harsh. I’ve heard they’re nice people at Barnet. They don’t deserve that cunt.

They’re just not very good at recruiting, that’s all. Like many, they can’t read a man.

People skills is ambiguous. For most it means skill in managing people. Exploiting them. Getting the most out of them. Paying them less than they’re worth. I’m not very good at that.

But my people skills are razor fucking sharp. If you consider my definition. The skill of understanding people, of seeing what they’re made of, seeing right through them, being able to spot the charlatan, the lazy bastard and the good guys just from eye contact, smell and feel. Sensory perceptions are mostly inexplicable, being of another realm. Teach your kids to use their instincts people. They were born with it. By like everything, we use it or we lose it.

McGhee's level is not in management, at any level. There will be good men choking in his presence.

Your people skills are fucking shite you egotistical dick drip!

You think you are better than everyone and you are a troll you muppet.

You like to put people down..the antithesis of what tou think you excel at.

Wake up.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 16, 2017, 10:23:40 AM
Your people skills are fucking shite you egotistical dick drip!

You think you are better than everyone and you are a troll you muppet.

You like to put people down..the antithesis of what tou think you excel at.

Wake up.

Ahh a third definition. The most watery interpretation. The one most commonly used, the ability to “get on” with people.

I know my strengths and weaknesses all right, and my intolerance isn’t my best suit. But people who demonstrate gross ignorance AS WELL as gross arrogance should be shot. People who dismiss everyone in schemes as “coonsil twats wi nae money” for example, people who say - I mean they believe it so much that they actually wrote it - that they can determine personality aspects from musical preferences, and people who exercise transference in their denial.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on November 16, 2017, 10:54:22 AM
You like to put people down..the antithesis of what tou think you excel at.

Actually, in fairness to Rocket:

Quote
People skills is ambiguous. For most it means skill in managing people. Exploiting them. Getting the most out of them. Paying them less than they’re worth. I’m not very good at that.

He doesn't say he is very good at the antithesis of putting people down at any point.

I'm just trolling like, because I'm bored, so don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 16, 2017, 11:31:18 AM
Actually, in fairness to Rocket:

He doesn't say he is very good at the antithesis of putting people down at any point.

I'm just trolling like, because I'm bored, so don't worry about it.

You’re wrong. He’s right. I have a compunction to put certain “people down”. Or more properly, point out the error of their ways. But when they react like a fucking arsehole, I find it difficult not to release a rocket or three.

The irony is, well, there’s too many, I wouldn’t know where to start.

He’s also spot on about thinking I’m better... at certain, specific things mind you.

Cmon cmon cmon... loves the greatest thing, that we have.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TheDeeDon on November 16, 2017, 01:07:35 PM
Shankly: Nature’s Fire, available now on BBC iPlayer.

You MUST watch this if you’re interested in any of the following subjects;

Football
People
Life
Inspiration
Devotion
Achievement
Success
Change

He was the best manager ever in my opinion.

Before the imbecile wades in with infantile “banter”, remember that “best” requires definition first. I didn’t say that he was the most successful.

I watched this, as despite having an irrational hatred of Liverpool Football Club, I think Shankly was  the finest football manager ever, not in a trophy winning sense of course, but he created something at Liverpool which has never been created anywhere else, he become part of the city itself as much as the club and the scenes where the people come out to greet the team after winning the FA Cup for the very first time and they way in which they listened to him speak and hang on his every word was something to behold.

Watching Ian St John & Keegan cry when speaking about him showed how much the man meant to the club and most of its players.

Hard to believe now that three small mining communities in the west of Scotland gave the footballing world Stein, Shankly and Busby.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 16, 2017, 01:24:07 PM
I watched this, as despite having an irrational hatred of Liverpool Football Club, I think Shankly was  the finest football manager ever, not in a trophy winning sense of course, but he created something at Liverpool which has never been created anywhere else, he become part of the city itself as much as the club and the scenes where the people come out to greet the team after winning the FA Cup for the very first time and they way in which they listened to him speak and hang on his every word was something to behold.

Watching Ian St John & Keegan cry when speaking about him showed how much the man meant to the club and most of its players.

Hard to believe now that three small mining communities in the west of Scotland gave the footballing world Stein, Shankly and Busby.

You see it like I see it min  :thumbsup:

SAF actually created something at AFC that was unique and equally successful but he did it with siege mentalities, a ruthless drive and an element of tinkdom. Di Stefano described Aberdeen as "having a soul" in 1983, something that SAF brought to the front but thanks to Dick Donald and Teddy Scott and Jim Anderson etc., the many servants and enthusiasts who made up the whole culture, that made it possible for him to do it.

And yet some still think it's all about the talent of the players, not the tactics, not the strategy, not the philosophy, not the work ethic and organisation and not the culture behind the scenes, all things that their little brains can't acknowledge to exist, far less comprehend.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Nips_and_Tatties on November 17, 2017, 12:46:45 AM
You’re wrong. He’s right. I have a compunction to put certain “people down”. Or more properly, point out the error of their ways. But when they react like a fucking arsehole, I find it difficult not to release a rocket or three.

The irony is, well, there’s too many, I wouldn’t know where to start.

He’s also spot on about thinking I’m better... at certain, specific things mind you.

Cmon cmon cmon... loves the greatest thing, that we have.

So you're just talking shit again.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on November 20, 2017, 11:02:26 AM
Tony Pulis punted by West Brom. Would think McInnes maybe on their radar. Bit more concerned by this than I am by him going to Tribute Act.

Got to think Michael O'Neill will be another on their radar so wonder where SFA will go next. Big Eck looking more and more likely.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 20, 2017, 11:27:04 AM
So you're just talking shit again.

 :rofl:

Boo hoo.. greeting like a lickle girl.. "he called me names".

Grow up you fucking imbecile. It's obvious that I can't.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on November 20, 2017, 11:48:50 AM
As said before if DM gets the WBA gig then he will go with my thanks and best wishes, though I also think that it might be a job that is almost as much of a poisoned chalice as the sevco one is...

Just hope our board have been taking note of all the recent speculation and have a suitable replacement in mind. Jack Ross will probably be the guy the press all punt for the job but I think right now is just a fraction too early. Bearing in mind our move to new stadium/training facilities, wherever they eventually end up, should be occurring sometime during the next manager's tenure. Probably not a popular opinion but I wouldn't mind McLeish on a 2 and a half year contract to see us through this period. Should he do so and win a trophy then a further 2 years would be ok, if not by then Ross should be ready for a club of our stature.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on November 20, 2017, 02:52:55 PM
As said before if DM gets the WBA gig then he will go with my thanks and best wishes

I can’t help thinking that all these best wishes is liking rewarding and praising the man who didn’t rob the bank.

Yes he was infinitely better than the fuckers Milne appointed before him but he’s not anything other than a semi competent manager who talks a better game than he delivers. It’s fucking madness. We’re comparing him to utter shite, which is the standard in football management these days. Even Levein got a gig and as for that thick piece of nothingness in that zero club in Perth patting himself on the back in his interview last week for getting quoted for every vacancy, that’s just insane. As for John Robertson and Billy Dodds and all the other ex pros, they’re not managers, they’re unemployed (or soon will be) people looking for an opportunity. Roy Hodgson and Arry Redheid in their 90’s, Davie Moyes, Fat Sam, Gareth Southgate, Gordon Strachan and Mark McGhee all getting high profile jobs is a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on November 25, 2017, 01:56:57 PM
Looks like Pardew for West Brom.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on November 29, 2017, 12:23:14 PM
Looks like Pardew for West Brom.

Confirmed now.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on November 29, 2017, 02:49:37 PM
I don't believe that Pardew is a better football manager than McInnes.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on November 29, 2017, 07:25:05 PM
I don't believe that Pardew is a better football manager than McInnes.

He's not, but he's managed the EPL and a "name".
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on November 30, 2017, 07:14:54 PM
I don't believe that Pardew is a better football manager than McInnes.
After last night?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on November 30, 2017, 10:05:09 PM
Allerdyce appointed Everton manager. Cannot believe this corrupt cunt keeps getting a job. Just goes to show principals go out the window when it comes to survival in the EPL.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on December 01, 2017, 02:40:04 AM
He's a good manager.  Very interesting apointment this, I could see him doing very well at Everton. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 20, 2017, 10:39:05 PM
Paul clement gone. Wonder if he’ll now be on sevcos radar
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on December 23, 2017, 11:26:38 PM
Gary Monk punted from Middlesbrough after 6months in charge

English football is a joke
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on December 24, 2017, 01:14:46 PM
Gary Monk punted from Middlesbrough after 6months in charge

English football is a joke

That is mental. He has been given no time at all.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 24, 2017, 01:20:05 PM
The timing of it was more than bizarre, after a good away win.

Perhaps the Boro board have delusions of grandeur.

Or maybe they didn’t like the cut of the cunt’s gib.

It’s also possible that a manager they consider to be better has become available.

In the spirit of exploring all possibilities, Monk maybe fucked a board members 17 year old daughter.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on December 27, 2017, 01:46:01 PM
The timing of it was more than bizarre, after a good away win.

Perhaps the Boro board have delusions of grandeur.

Or maybe they didn’t like the cut of the cunt’s gib.

It’s also possible that a manager they consider to be better has become available.

In the spirit of exploring all possibilities, Monk maybe fucked a board members 17 year old daughter.

Looks like the bit in bold may have been the reason as Tony Pulis has been appointed.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 27, 2017, 03:06:49 PM
Looks like the bit in bold may have been the reason as Tony Pulis has been appointed.

Yes it appears that reason to be infinitely more likely than Monks having exercised an indiscretion against a young lassie.

He may have been caught having sex with a farmyard animal of course, but that likelihood may have been more than very remote. Had that occurred, and there is zero evidence or suggestion of evidence that it did (at this stage), the timing of the infraction would have been material, if indeed the shagging of a goat or a Fresian cow is considered an infraction. If caught with his balls coo or sheep-deep during working hours, see ya later. If sliding into the animal outwith working hours, I'm sure Monks would've been happy to take a weeks wages and a Non-Disclosure Agreement.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on December 27, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Looks like the bit in bold may have been the reason as Tony Pulis has been appointed.

Interesting appointment, I've never really seen Pulis at a club where he will be expected to try and win a title/get promoted.  Wonder if the tribute act actually ever spoke to him. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on December 28, 2017, 12:53:08 PM
Swansea appoint Carlos Carvalhal as manger. Carvalhal was sacked himself from Sheffield Wednesday job on Christmas Eve.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 28, 2017, 01:08:28 PM
Swansea appoint Carlos Carvalhal as manger. Carvalhal was sacked himself from Sheffield Wednesday job on Christmas Eve.

Bizarreness again. Both managers therefore got sacked after the Shef Weds v. Boro game. Wednesday reacted to his sacking with a 3-0 away win at Forest. Swansea are rolling a dice but their game is doomed. Can’t see anybody saving them and this muppet especially. The Swansea board must be mad. Some terrible appointments but this may be their worst yet.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on December 28, 2017, 07:58:21 PM
Bizarreness again. Both managers therefore got sacked after the Shef Weds v. Boro game. Wednesday reacted to his sacking with a 3-0 away win at Forest. Swansea are rolling a dice but their game is doomed. Can’t see anybody saving them and this muppet especially. The Swansea board must be mad. Some terrible appointments but this may be their worst yet.

That’s a mental appointment. Reading the comments on HYS it’s quite clear a lot of folk are pissed off with Jenkins selling up to some yanks. Lost the soul of the club and haven’t reinvested what they’ve made. Meanwhile Cardiff fans are pishing themselves. Usually makes for a good read  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TheDeeDon on December 31, 2017, 02:02:34 PM
I see Warburton has been binned by Forest. Nae doubt another basket case club Deek will be linked with.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 06, 2018, 08:33:41 PM
Biggest shock of the season so far, mark Hughes has been sacked after their 2-1 loss today. Surprised it took them this long in all honesty.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on January 15, 2018, 12:02:42 PM
Paul Lambert (part of the jobs for the boys merry go round in English football ) appointed as new stoke City manager
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on January 15, 2018, 12:22:34 PM
Paul Lambert (part of the jobs for the boys merry go round in English football ) appointed as new stoke City manager

Stoke accepting relegation then.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on January 15, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
Paul Lambert (part of the jobs for the boys merry go round in English football ) appointed as new stoke City manager

Fantastic! Won't be the next Scotland boss then  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on January 15, 2018, 03:01:53 PM
Fantastic! Won't be the next Scotland boss then  ;D

Every cloud and all that ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on January 21, 2018, 12:58:42 AM
Nielsen punted by the English franchise fc. Not surprising in the slightest.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on January 21, 2018, 08:59:13 AM
Surprised he lasted so long the MK fans wanted him out in October. 6 months off and he will rock up at Tannadump when Shabba Wanks fails to get the caravan dwellers up....
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on January 21, 2018, 07:00:21 PM
Watford sack Marco Silva weeks after refusing him permission to speak to Everton.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on March 01, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
Brendan Rodgers linked with Arsenal  ::)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on March 01, 2018, 01:29:14 PM
Brendan Rodgers linked with Arsenal  ::)

 :lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove:

By his agent maybe ;)

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on March 01, 2018, 01:37:38 PM
Wonder when DM will be linked with it :confused:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on March 12, 2018, 08:53:24 PM
Pellegrino sacked by Southampton.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on March 13, 2018, 12:32:59 PM
Pellegrino sacked by Southampton.
Was looking at the stats on the BBC website, not one manager in recent times (out of 15  :eek:) lasted 100 games!
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on March 14, 2018, 10:11:16 PM
According to SSN Southampton to appoint Mark Hughes.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: kiriakovisthenewstrachan on March 16, 2018, 05:10:40 PM
Mourinho has lost the plot.

Check out his press conference today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43434736
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on March 16, 2018, 09:50:59 PM
Mourinho has lost the plot.

Check out his press conference today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43434736

That cunt is gone.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on March 19, 2018, 01:01:57 PM
Wouldn't normally take delight in anyone losing their job, but then again Mark McGhee isn't just anyone.
Punted by Barnet after four months.
Surely the last job McGhee will get in football.  :wanker:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on March 21, 2018, 11:47:26 AM
Jaap Stam binned by Reading. Probably the type of job McInnes should be linked with but in view of their precarious league position they'll probably go for someone like Harry Redknapp with a proven record in England
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on March 24, 2018, 12:47:23 AM
Jaap Stam binned by Reading. Probably the type of job McInnes should be linked with but in view of their precarious league position they'll probably go for someone like Harry Redknapp with a proven record in England

Replaced by sacked Swansea manager Paul Clement.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: kiriakovisthenewstrachan on April 01, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
Could 'Sparky' Hughes claim a double if Stoke and Southampton get relegated? And would he be the first manager to take two teams down in one season?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on April 02, 2018, 01:01:05 PM
Pardew binned by WBA by "mutual consent".......ie given £1million and told to fuck off to anywhere not within 50 miles of Birmingham. McInnes 12/1 with the bookies to take over. So looks like he is going to be with us for another 12 months till WBA bin whatever unlucky git who gets appointed finds himself 15 points adrift of the automatic promotion places next season......
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 02, 2018, 08:54:26 PM
I can’t see how West Brom would ever appoint him unless they were a league lower. Rightly or wrongly, There are many other “names” ahead of him and let’s face it, Chinese owners only want instant success and known managers. Personally hope we’ve started to look at the future with the knowledge that he will be off at some point. We can not afford another summer of absolute shite like the last one. There’s no doubt in my mind he won’t be getting the West brom job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on April 02, 2018, 09:27:26 PM
That is exactly what I'm saying MD.......WBA are doomed and will be in the Championship next season. When they find themselves 15 points off the automatic promotion places they will bin whoever is unlucky enough to replace Pardew. At this point (I reckon Dec/Jan) McInnes will become a viable managerial candidate.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 02, 2018, 09:33:25 PM
Oh I know, it was more in response to some elsewhere who seem to be getting their knickers in a twist.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TheDeeDon on April 03, 2018, 06:54:09 AM
Whilst I doubt him ever getting the West Brom job, he is probably no worse than most of the limited gene pool which constitutes the EPL managerial merry-go-round. No doubt it will go to another 'name' who has had limited success in the EPL other than a good track record of mid table mediocrity.  I suspect Hollywood teeth down at Parkhead will be more of a contender than DM.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on April 18, 2018, 05:12:21 PM
 Joey Barton new manager at Fleetwood Town  :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on April 18, 2018, 06:29:29 PM
Joey Barton new manager at Fleetwood Town  :o

Get money on him being knocked out by one of his players before the season starts.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on April 18, 2018, 11:00:57 PM
Get money on him being knocked out by one of his players before the season starts.
:rofl:
A good bet would him being gone before the season starts perhaps.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: TheDeeDon on April 19, 2018, 07:14:52 AM
Barton in as manager is just a publicity stunt and nothing more. Is Barry Nic still at Fleetwood as coach?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on April 19, 2018, 09:09:17 AM
Barton is big mates with their chairman, only reason he got the job. I'll be backing whoever is playing against Fleetwood come the new season.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BobbyBiscuit on April 20, 2018, 10:07:03 AM
Arsene Wenger away at the end of the season.

Would need to imagine Brenda will be on their radar as his replacement.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on April 20, 2018, 10:18:42 AM
Can’t believe it’s actually happening. Well and truly the end of an era. Definitely time for a change but at least he’s probably doing it on his terms?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Lencarl on April 20, 2018, 11:21:48 AM
Can’t believe it’s actually happening. Well and truly the end of an era. Definitely time for a change but at least he’s probably doing it on his terms?

22 years is a hell of a long time to remain as manager of Arsenal.

Good luck to him on his next post.


Next Arsenal Manager betting has Rodgers as 8/1.

That will test his love for his beloved Celtic if offered the job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on April 20, 2018, 12:05:50 PM
Wenger should've been emptied a while ago. He lost the ability to organise and motivate before this decade.

Weirdo Wenger being accorded legend status by Merson is so sick and hypocritical.

Brenda would be a bad move by the Gooners. So I hope he gets the job.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on April 20, 2018, 01:15:19 PM
If the Arses come calling you won't see Brenda for dust.

Wenger really should have been told to resign with dignity 2 years ago. Will always be a legend but really hasn't had Arsenal close for some time now.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on April 20, 2018, 04:08:26 PM
Don't suppose McInnes is quoted  ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Lencarl on April 20, 2018, 04:47:56 PM
Don't suppose McInnes is quoted  ;)

Nothing on any of the betting sites I have seen.

Brendan Rodgers is around 6/1.

He must be in with a shout having managed in the EPL before.


Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on May 03, 2018, 01:33:06 PM
My money would be on Viera for Arse.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 03, 2018, 10:23:35 PM
Thank you Arsene Arsehole. You ended it well.

His team delivered a 4/5 opponent's win tonight, a result never in doubt.

Cunts like you make me vomit Wenger.

But I love the fact I saw through you so often through the years.

You're a fucking disgrace man. Your crime was milking your limited talents.

But by fuck you were an exceptional talent-identifier.

Just not a manager of men. Cos real men don't get inspired by poofter teacher cunts like you.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 04, 2018, 12:31:16 AM
No need for the homophobia rocket but I agree with most of what you say. 2bf though in the Arsenal invincibles era he did give me probably the best, if not,  certainly the most enjoyable side I have ever watched.  Particularly because whilst I am of the opinion that Zidane is the best player I have seen the player I have most enjoyed watching in my years (bar Jess) is Dennis Bergkamp.  Wenger did not take him to Arsenal but he polished him to a hell of a shine so I will always remember Arsene Wenger with fondness even if he did leave Arsenal a decade too late.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 04, 2018, 08:14:30 AM
It wasn't intended to be a sleight on his sexuality. He's probably happily married, I don't know and I don't care. I apologise if I offended you. The word poofter was meant to signify weak, as in he's a weak (and odd) man. But I guess these days the context has changed as homosexuals are no longer odd and there's no reason for them to be "weak". I must take care when posting in the modern era, especially after an evening of libations.

Agree that his team were beautiful in the early and mid 00's. But after SAF chewed him up and spat him out, it was obvious that his management weaknesses were fatal. He was finished more than 10 years ago. He had no chance of winning the league this decade. I was backing a home win last night and was delighted to see it come in.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 04, 2018, 01:32:21 PM
Nah not offended, no apology necessary.  I knew what you meant I just felt it was a poor choice of language that detracted from and cheapened a good point.  Fwiw I don't think you're a homophobe, you clearly hate everyone quite equally 👍
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: kiriakovisthenewstrachan on May 04, 2018, 01:55:03 PM

You're a fucking disgrace man. Your crime was milking your limited talents.

Well said.

Three league titles, seven FA cups and two European finals. Pure disgrace.

Glad we never ended up wi him at Pittodrie.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 16, 2018, 10:00:40 AM
Allardyce booted out of Everton  ;D
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 16, 2018, 10:57:32 AM
Allardyce booted out of Everton  ;D

Aye that's a hilarious een. Took them to 8th and gets the dunt. The fans never liked him nor his style of grinding play.

Fat "corroupt" Sam. Cha's the cud lick a coo. Chuddie Sam. Wankstain of a human.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 16, 2018, 02:13:18 PM
Moyes punted by West Ham according SSN.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on May 16, 2018, 03:03:17 PM
Moyes punted by West Ham according SSN.

Might have a fiver on him going back to Everton

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 16, 2018, 09:07:01 PM
Aye that's a hilarious een. Took them to 8th and gets the dunt. The fans never liked him nor his style of grinding play.

Fat "corroupt" Sam. Cha's the cud lick a coo. Chuddie Sam. Wankstain of a human.

Have a blue nose mate and he absolutely hated his style of play. Time will tell if it’s the right call or not. But as TC says, can see Moyes ending up back there. Two bang average managers.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: kiriakovisthenewstrachan on May 17, 2018, 06:24:27 AM
Two bang average managers.

That is nonsense Manc.  Allardyce got Bolton into the UEFA cup amongst other things as well as rescuing a few hopeless causes from relegation.  Moyes had a really good Everton team, worked wonders at Preston and obviously Fergie had a high enough opinion of him to recommend him to Man U.

Just about every club that these two have been to are in a far worse state a few years down the line than when either Allardyce or Moyes were in charge.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 17, 2018, 09:23:21 AM
That is nonsense Manc.  Allardyce got Bolton into the UEFA cup amongst other things as well as rescuing a few hopeless causes from relegation.  Moyes had a really good Everton team, worked wonders at Preston and obviously Fergie had a high enough opinion of him to recommend him to Man U.

Just about every club that these two have been to are in a far worse state a few years down the line than when either Allardyce or Moyes were in charge.

Allardyce I'll give you, but Moyes, no. You're talking about the past here. Everton and Preston were a long, long time ago.

I probably should have qualified that by just saying a corrupt twat and a bang average manager when describing them both.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: jinkyjoe on May 17, 2018, 09:56:18 AM
Allardyce I'll give you, but Moyes, no. You're talking about the past here. Everton and Preston were a long, long time ago.

Davie Moyes is an interesting one.  He looks to have made a number of bad job choices since leaving Everton rather than being particularly bad when he arrived in those jobs.  He's still a decent manager but his next job is likely to be in the championship.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on May 17, 2018, 10:41:30 AM
He was talking about Moyes who started at Preston
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 17, 2018, 11:11:22 AM
He was talking about Moyes who started at Preston

Ooops, senior moment from me there TC.
Admin powers abused and removed my post  ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 19, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Darren Moore staying at west brom so that’ll end any dm speculation there for at least until October.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: jinkyjoe on May 19, 2018, 11:10:06 AM
Lambo shafted by Stoke after 15 games. What is going on? You've got no chance in the EPL unless you are an instant success. Wonder if Del fancies that gig?   ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on May 19, 2018, 12:38:17 PM
Lambo shafted by Stoke after 15 games. What is going on? You've got no chance in the EPL unless you are an instant success. Wonder if Del fancies that gig?   ;)

Stoke are a far more stable club than Sunderland and I have no doubt if they came calling DM would be offski. However I doubt he would even make the top 10 of Stoke's short list of possible replacements. Supposedly Moyes is top of their wish list despite him turning them down in January.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: jinkyjoe on May 19, 2018, 12:55:56 PM
Stoke job is tailor made for Moyes.  He could play his usual style of fitba without being battered by the fans.  He's got to be a certainty for that post.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: jinkyjoe on May 21, 2018, 02:47:06 PM
Alec Rae favourite for the Sunderland job  :rofl:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 21, 2018, 02:51:01 PM
Alec Rae favourite for the Sunderland job  :rofl:

That's surely a joke.
Hell mend them if true :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 21, 2018, 03:05:54 PM
That's surely a joke.
Hell mend them if true :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Fucking hell, just checked and it isn't a joke :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on May 21, 2018, 03:20:45 PM
Supposedly Jack Ross also spoke with Sunderland. Surely to f@ck he has to be a far better option than that mutant Rae? Every time I see him on tv he reminds me of a martian
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 21, 2018, 03:33:05 PM
Supposedly Jack Ross also spoke with Sunderland. Surely to f@ck he has to be a far better option than that mutant Rae? Every time I see him on tv he reminds me of a martian

Could it be that Ross is just far too intelligent to take on that basket case of a club.
Rae, however on the other hand  ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 21, 2018, 08:26:47 PM
Stoke are a far more stable club than Sunderland and I have no doubt if they came calling DM would be offski. However I doubt he would even make the top 10 of Stoke's short list of possible replacements. Supposedly Moyes is top of their wish list despite him turning them down in January.

Garry Rowett been given permission to speak to Stoke by Derby according to SSN.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 21, 2018, 08:28:22 PM
Could it be that Ross is just far too intelligent to take on that basket case of a club.
Rae, however on the other hand  ;)

Sunderland officially taken over today and debt written off. Might not be such a basket case going forward.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 22, 2018, 09:34:27 PM
West Ham appoint Pellegrini as manager to replace Moyes.

https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/premier-league/2017-2018/west-ham-confirm-manuel-pellegrini-appointment_sto6766109/story.shtml
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on May 22, 2018, 11:28:43 PM
West Ham appoint Pellegrini as manager to replace Moyes.

https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/premier-league/2017-2018/west-ham-confirm-manuel-pellegrini-appointment_sto6766109/story.shtml

Quite a shrewd appointment imo.  I always liked him at city. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 23, 2018, 02:40:11 PM
SSN reporting Jack Ross to be appointed as Sunderland manager this afternoon.

http://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11695/11382737/sunderland-agree-terms-with-st-mirren-manager-jack-ross
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 23, 2018, 02:58:12 PM
SSN reporting Jack Ross to be appointed as Sunderland manager this afternoon.

http://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11695/11382737/sunderland-agree-terms-with-st-mirren-manager-jack-ross

No idea if he's any good as a manager or not but I did see St Mirren in action last month, a game they were heavily odds on to win (at Brechin), where they had a chance of winning the league (if Livi hadn't won that day) and where they took over 2,000 of a travelling support. They were fucking shite.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on May 23, 2018, 06:51:57 PM
SSN reporting Jack Ross to be appointed as Sunderland manager this afternoon.

http://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11695/11382737/sunderland-agree-terms-with-st-mirren-manager-jack-ross

Always thought he would end up with us.
Rumoured to have been lined up as McInnes's replacement if he'd taken the Sevco gig.
First season promotion required or punted I reckon.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on May 23, 2018, 06:56:01 PM
He will manage us at some point I reckon. Still hoping popcorn teeth will be the one who directly replaces DM whenever he leaves though.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on May 23, 2018, 08:48:08 PM
He will manage us at some point I reckon. Still hoping popcorn teeth will be the one who directly replaces DM whenever he leaves though.

DM would have to go fairly soon for us to even have a sniff at Lennon, his star is defo on the rise again and will take another crack at England if the right opportunity comes up.  It's not outwith the realms of imagination that Leicester in a year or so might be a possible destination given his history with the club and the managerial survival rate down there.  In short I am very confident Lennon will not be the next Aberdeen manager sadly. 

As for Ross i think he will do fine at Sunderland.  Ironically after 2 successive relegations this is as good time to get the job for as long as I can remember, they are now debt free and a lot of the big earners will be coming out of contract.  Saw Martin Bain got his jotters as DOF this week too which can be no bad thing.    They will have a much bigger budget than their competition in the league and if he signs well he will have a hell of a chance to win it at a canter. 
This is a really good opportunity for Ross who does seem very likeable, good luck to him.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on May 23, 2018, 09:11:41 PM
Lennon wouldn't want to come to Aberdeen. Why would he?

AFC has become a poisoned chalice. Our karma stinks real bad.

We once had an inspirational chairman who's enthusiasm managed to attract McLeod, McNeill and Ferguson, the latter being desperate and almost untouchable at the time given his integrity history.

But that was the 1970's.

We've never done anything since then in terms of putting the right people in the right places.

Our chairman is a little shit.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: donsdaft on May 23, 2018, 09:33:07 PM
Why the fuck would anyone want a obnoxious shite like Lennon.

It’s Cornhill he should be heading for nae Pittodrie
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on May 23, 2018, 11:00:17 PM
Why the fuck would anyone want a obnoxious shite like Lennon.

It’s Cornhill he should be heading for nae Pittodrie

Agreed he is an obnoxious shyte. So was Fergie.....

Lennon instils the correct attitude in is team when they are playing the cheeks. He isn't intimidated in the way DM is. So that's why I want him. His personal traits are of no interest to me if he delivered us a side capable of pumping Celtic and sevco as frequently as Hibs do.

Back on topic it does look like Ross will get a budget at Sunderland which will blow every other team in League 1 out the water. Likeable as he is, he is an utter nonentity in England. Hopefully this won't be a hindrance in getting his signing targets to join up. And of course, should he fail to get Sunderland up at the first attempt then there is no doubt he will get a dirty great boot up the arse and won't land till he hits Scottish soil.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: OxfordDon on May 25, 2018, 01:24:41 PM
Ross confirmed as new Sunderland manager

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44238168
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: kiriakovisthenewstrachan on May 25, 2018, 02:09:50 PM
That surprises me.  It's a massive job to be given based on a year and a half's worth of work at St Mirren.  Good luck to the guy but he's hugely inexperienced to be going into a club that size.  Let's face it, if he's in 10th place at Christmas he will probably be fired.

Normally inexperienced managers get big club management jobs if they have had a glittering player career but in truth Jack's playing career was ordinary and his managerial career has barely started (34 games for Alloa and 80 games for St Mirren.).
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on May 25, 2018, 02:18:01 PM
  Let's face it, if he's in 10th place at Christmas he will probably be fired.


If he is in 5th place at Christmas he will probably be fired.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 25, 2018, 10:39:18 PM
Mark Hughes gets 3 year deal at Southampton after keeping them up.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on June 01, 2018, 01:03:21 PM
Heckingbottom sacked by Leeds after 16 games in charge.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on July 12, 2018, 07:26:44 PM
Conte sacked by Chelsea. One year too late in my opinion. Not that I like the club and their rotten, disgusting owner but I really don't like him. Egomaniacal arse.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on July 12, 2018, 08:16:06 PM
Conte sacked by Chelsea. One year too late in my opinion. Not that I like the club and their rotten, disgusting owner but I really don't like him. Egomaniacal arse.

I hear he's (Abramovic) getting israeli citizenship  ::)

Worst kept secret, surprised they took so long to announce it.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on October 03, 2018, 04:42:44 PM
Steve Bruce sacked.
That'll be the McKenna £7m transfer fucked then.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 03, 2018, 05:38:32 PM
Steve Bruce sacked.
That'll be the McKenna £7m transfer fucked then.

Milne will be in tears.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Elgindon on October 03, 2018, 06:39:45 PM

 Have never understood how fans of the clubs Steve Bruce has managed,are able to build up any affinity with him,when he's jumped from one similar sized club to another,often in the same league.
  "Yes,City/Utd/Villa/Rovers/Town are the club Ive always wanted to manage etc"
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on October 03, 2018, 07:00:39 PM
Maybe they just like his books
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Elgindon on October 03, 2018, 07:06:17 PM
Maybe they just like giving him his books


  FIFY
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Madbadteacher on October 03, 2018, 07:51:03 PM
At least he got a cabbage this time as a parting gift
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on October 10, 2018, 08:20:51 AM
Wolves have surprised me this season. I watched one of their first games and they were pedestrian and lacking in quality. Only one defeat in 8 is brilliant for a newly promoted side. Nuno Espírito Santo kens fit he's deein.

The team directly above them in the EPL right now also benefit from a good manager. Howe has done a cracking job at Bournemouth. They're both ahead of Jose Mourinho after less than a quarter of fixtures played.

Cardiff are rock bottom. I've never rated Warnock. Entertaining for sure - as a man rather than opinion on his style of play - but a total blustering charlatan, full of shit.

Mark Hughes once again faces a season-long fight against relegation and like Steve Bruce, it wouldn't surprise me if he took them down. They remind me of each other those two, not just cos they played for Man U.

A good manager makes ALL the difference.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: donsdaft on October 10, 2018, 01:40:04 PM
I know a fanatical Wolves fan.

A royalist and loyal England fan he has been insufferable since the referendum, just waiting to get rid of the nasty Europeans from Englands shores.

 ;)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on October 10, 2018, 02:33:58 PM
I know a fanatical Wolves fan.

A royalist and loyal England fan he has been insufferable since the referendum, just waiting to get rid of the nasty Europeans from Englands shores.

 ;)

Fanny McCoist supports Wolves?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on October 25, 2018, 06:24:51 PM
Ipswich bin their manager. Sort of level of club that might be interested in DM. Fingers crossed anyway...
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Kowalski on October 25, 2018, 08:06:50 PM
Ipswich bin their manager. Sort of level of club that might be interested in DM. Fingers crossed anyway...

Would be a step down IMHO.
Paul Lambert linked anyway.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 25, 2018, 08:20:25 PM
Possibly, but in all likelihood, the sort of club he's going to get.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 03, 2018, 12:39:54 PM
Hughes is gone. He can keep giving out all the hard luck stories but he can't argue with results.

Unlike other situations, I don't see a bounce back effect happening with his departure. Spurs at 2/5 on Wednesday should be great value.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on December 18, 2018, 11:13:15 AM
Mourinho gone. The most painful endurance in management now unenduring.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on December 18, 2018, 01:46:13 PM
Only thing left on his CV that needs filled is international management. His own country I doubt could ever win a World Cup so I doubt he would manage them for now but Spain or Italy could be viable. Or indeed, Brazil as he speaks the language.

Saw he was linked with a return to Inter but surely that would be a retrograde step
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on January 07, 2019, 12:34:12 PM
Some posters reckon Liverpool will win the EPL this season. Understandable given their 4 point lead at the top but what about the Klopp factor? Has he really got what it takes to cross the line? Is his core made of steel? Is he made of the right stuff? Or was he a tall specky kid who got lucky?

I really like the man. His enthusiasm is infectious. He knows how to smile and have a laugh and there's no doubt that he's assembled a superb unit at Anfield. He's got a great eye for a player and there's no doubt that they are properly motivated under him. But his personal record in the biggest of matches, including the Champions League finals that he's lost is either bad luck on the day or a symptom of his true nature. Even last week, their first defeat of the EPL season was a defining game. Had he won that, 10 points would've been a massive advantage but they would still have had to grind it out with 51 points still up for grabs.

Winners are tough. They don't care about being popular and friends with everyone. They're driven to succeed and have desire and determination levels that are almost scary when you're in their presence, so utterly focused as they are. Most of all, they believe that they're the best. I don't know if Klopp believes it. Maybe he's still this gangly awkward kid who's blustered his way into the upper echelons of the game, albeit on the back of some excellent management and some solid results. But like the excellent technical golfer who's often in contention but yet to win a major, there must be a question mark about his ability to cross the bridge and actually deliver on the biggest of stages. Winning the EPL would be a testament to his stamina and mental fortitude, just as winning the biggest trophies requires total belief. It is these specific issues that he's yet to prove. Will be a very interesting next four months.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on January 16, 2019, 01:14:32 PM
Stephen Pressley appointed manager of Carlisle. Used to have a bit of a soft spot for them but hope the hun c@nt leads them to relegation now
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: rocket_scientist on February 24, 2019, 12:02:53 PM
Claude the fraud Puel binned by Leicester. Terrible appointment.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on February 24, 2019, 12:43:49 PM
Claude the fraud Puel binned by Leicester. Terrible appointment.

Brenda bookies favourite to take over. I think Celtic would insist on him seeing the season out but can envisage being allowed to join them in the summer.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: kiriakovisthenewstrachan on February 24, 2019, 01:03:59 PM
There are certainly two ways to skin a cat. When Leicester won the league they regularly had around 35% possession and won a lot of games by the odd goal on the counter attack. Watched a fair bit of them this season and they have actually played very well in a number of their games but failed to win. Last night's highlights showed they had 27 attempts on goal and 65% possession yet got beat 4-1.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on February 28, 2019, 06:03:15 PM
Ranieri sacked after only 3 months in charge at Fulham. Madness.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on February 28, 2019, 07:23:23 PM
Was an absolutely crackpot appointment in the first place. However he was leading them to certain relegation anyway so they probably see it as a worthwhile gamble.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 13, 2019, 11:35:05 AM
Chris Hughton sacked by Brighton after keeping them up for 2nd season in a row.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on May 13, 2019, 01:13:49 PM
I see a lot of outrage regarding the Hughton sacking, but hasn't he spent 70+ million? Finishing 17th. I appreciate that the EPL is obviously more difficult, but they were almost relegated and when you see he's spent a decent chunk more than several clubs that finished above them, added to the dire Football apparently on show, it kind of makes sense.

Maybe they feel they can attract a manager that puts a better squad together for the money they have available to spend, but I am not sure what they expect, I very much doubt they'd qualify for Europe or that, so is a Mid Table the best they can hope for? The prize money becomes rather different the higher you finish, naturally, so maybe that is their thinking? Who knows.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on May 13, 2019, 03:29:51 PM
Brighton should be on their knees thanking Hughton for keeping them in the EPL. I'm not sure what exactly they expect of him but any manager doing as he has done deserves another season. Even spending £70 million (and putting it into perspective, clubs in the top 6 will spend that on a single player)……..Norwich and Sheffield United will spend at least that much this summer and if they finish 17th next season will consider every penny of it well spent. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 17, 2019, 11:07:42 PM
Tony Pulis sacked by Middlesbrough following them not making the play offs. Had them playing some awful football as well.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on May 21, 2019, 12:17:21 AM
Graham Potter appointed as Brighton manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: kiriakovisthenewstrachan on June 24, 2019, 02:13:13 PM
So Benitez leaving Newcastle, Stevie G high up on the bookies list of potential replacements  :o
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on June 24, 2019, 02:21:12 PM
So Benitez leaving Newcastle, Stevie G high up on the bookies list of potential replacements  :o

He is also wanted by Derby County to replace Chelsea bound Lampard.
Allegedly to be offered £2.5m basic and £8 million bonus if he leads then in Premier League

Don't know about the rest of you, but think I'd damn near pish my pants if he walked out on them pre season  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: donsdaft on June 24, 2019, 02:30:45 PM
Especially after he’s spent the summer buying shite.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on June 24, 2019, 02:31:28 PM
Especially after he’s spent the summer buying shite.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on June 24, 2019, 05:18:35 PM
At first glance it would be faf if Slippy were indeed to fuck off to Derby (or Newcastle).

However sevco would then be due a whack of compo from whatever team he went to and the law of averages says that they must hit upon a fairly competent manager sooner or later. So on balance I'd rather he stays on. They'll fire him if he goes another full season without a trophy (and maybe fairly quickly if they are a good few points behind Celtic at the halfway stage, possibly not even in second position in the league). At that point sevco become liable for Slippy's remaining salary plus needing to fund a replacement (with Celtic one title away from 10IAR they'd be desperate and likely go over what they can afford getting in a big name with a decentish reputation.....my bet would be Sam Allardyce who looks finished down south)
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tlg1903 on June 25, 2019, 11:26:50 PM
I would agree with that TC.  I said when he got the job that I suspected he would last 18 months. Not even a cup final last season and nothing special on the park, ultimately the next few months are massive for Gerrard.  If they get papped out of Europe and don't make the league Cup final he will be under huge pressure, that could only be mitigated by being top of the league.  Not impossible by any stretch, the tims have a big rebuild to do  (expecially in defence) but have a much bigger budget to do so and Lennon knows what he is doing.  Being binned by Xmas is very possible in other words if you ask me. 
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: dons8321 on June 28, 2019, 06:54:58 PM
O'Neill sacked by Forest who've already appointed a new manager.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on June 28, 2019, 08:13:42 PM
O'Neill sacked by Forest who've already appointed a new manager.

End of the road for O'Neill I reckon
Certainly only going to get a League 1/2 club at best

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on June 28, 2019, 09:45:37 PM
End of the road for O'Neill I reckon
Certainly only going to get a League 1/2 club at best

Hmmm. Lennon has just spent £8million on a new centre back and still needs another 6 or 7 players minimum to replace those that left. With that kind of spending power they should blow us and sevco away. If they somehow manage to be less than 3 points clear of the pack come January then I could envisage Celtic binning Lennon and bringing in O'Neill to guide them towards 9 and 10IAR
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on August 17, 2019, 09:56:17 AM
3 games into the Championship season in England and we have the first managerial casualty of the season with Huddersfield sacking Jan Siewert after only 7 months in charge. Only one win in 7 months but given they were in free fall before when he took over does seem a bit quick.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: tom_widdows on August 17, 2019, 11:49:05 AM
Sol Campbell left Macclesfield during the week after 10months in charge. Seems they are in the shit financially with players threatening boycotts over unpaid wages and ex players now applying for a winding up order to get their money.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on August 17, 2019, 12:15:16 PM
There will come a day, hopefully soon, when the financial problems now affecting quite a number of lower league English clubs starts to hit the big ones too. I'd crack open a bottle of champagne if Man City or Chelsea went down the gurgler.

Obviously I hope sevco beat any of them to it though
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 08, 2019, 03:18:01 PM
Jack Ross punted by Sunderland. Wonder if they would come back in for McInnes.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Tyrant on October 08, 2019, 03:24:14 PM
Bring Derek home.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: RicoS321 on October 08, 2019, 03:40:28 PM
Jack Ross punted by Sunderland. Wonder if they would come back in for McInnes.

That's a pity. We could have gone for a straight swap.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on October 08, 2019, 04:08:48 PM
Highly doubt they would come back in for him, he did speak to them initially and turned it down, not much has changed for them, other than conman Bain being ousted.

However, IF they did, McInnes should absolutely take it, best for us and himself that he did.

Would then beg the question, would we trust the Board to get his replacement right.

Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on October 08, 2019, 04:39:09 PM
Ross becoming available now would surely be too good an opportunity for Hearts to miss out on?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Elgindon on October 08, 2019, 04:42:42 PM
Highly doubt they would come back in for him, he did speak to them initially and turned it down, not much has changed for them, other than conman Bain being ousted.

However, IF they did, McInnes should absolutely take it, best for us and himself that he did.

Would then beg the question, would we trust the Board to get his replacement right.

 Comes a point when you just have to take that plunge.It would have been best for all if Derek had left on good terms at the end of last season with his stock still high,but while the signs were there that his time was up.Unless a manager is performing exceptionally,6 years in a job these days is longer than most.How Milne(or Derek) didnt spot the signs is a mystery,compounded by the 3 year extension. Ive no desire to see McInnes hounded out of his job,but it looks like it could get messy unless he pulls something off quickly.
   Do i trust Milne to appoint the right man? Nuh!! We just have to hope he flukes the right appointment
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: LA-Don on October 08, 2019, 05:01:18 PM
Can’t we just send McInnes to Sunderland and take Ross?
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Elgindon on October 08, 2019, 05:26:43 PM

 Ive got a panel van he could be bundled into the back of....
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: KennyFuckinPowers on October 08, 2019, 05:28:17 PM
Comes a point when you just have to take that plunge.It would have been best for all if Derek had left on good terms at the end of last season with his stock still high,but while the signs were there that his time was up.Unless a manager is performing exceptionally,6 years in a job these days is longer than most.How Milne(or Derek) didnt spot the signs is a mystery,compounded by the 3 year extension. Ive no desire to see McInnes hounded out of his job,but it looks like it could get messy unless he pulls something off quickly.
   Do i trust Milne to appoint the right man? Nuh!! We just have to hope he flukes the right appointment

Cormack would be involved in the process of recruiting a new Manger now though, wouldn't he?

Can't say I know anything about the guy in all honesty, but he's a supporter and he's invested in the Club, obviously Milne has as well, but many question his actual interest when it comes to the Club, could the same be said about Cormack? Would he not be more sensible in something like appointing a Manager etc... Personally, I have no idea.

Something I am absolutely positive on though, is that we would not have a shortage of Applicants, it's then up to them to get it right.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Jute on October 08, 2019, 05:44:23 PM
Interesting to see that Jack was sacked with a record of P74 W39 D25 L10. Really not that bad a record especially given they had to rebuild a team in his first season.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: BigAl on October 08, 2019, 06:05:24 PM
Full tank of diesel in the motor this morning, more than enough to drive Derek down and Jack up the road.
Happy to give up a day of self employment to make this happen
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: manc_don on October 08, 2019, 07:45:05 PM
Those stats aren't bad, but as someone said elsewhere, it's the draws that have killed him. I'd happily see us give him a go.
Title: Re: Managers in England
Post by: Ten Caat on October 08, 2019, 08:49:13 PM
Don't see us going for Ross. Can absolutely see Hearts going for him though