Author Topic: Todays fitba  (Read 569677 times)

0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline BobbyBiscuit

  • Manager
  • ******
  • Posts: 11611
  • Rating: 51
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8800 on: November 02, 2018, 11:33:31 AM »
He played several times in the centre for us as a sub. That's what I was saying.

The vast majority of his time he was stuck wide. That's what I was saying.
It's not about escaping. It's about getting out with a bit of dignity.
If you're in it, don't fucking moan about it, make it yours and leave a mark

Offline RicoS321

  • Midfield Maestro
  • ****
  • Posts: 2710
  • Rating: 66
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8801 on: November 02, 2018, 01:50:15 PM »
The vast majority of his time he was stuck wide. That's what I was saying.

I know what you were saying. I'm suggesting that you might be wrong. That his unfitness was more of an issue for us than his positioning as evidenced by the times he did play centrally for us but was still poor. Unless you are saying that the times he played wide were detrimental to his confidence to the extent that it affected his performances when played centrally? If so, you could be right.

Offline BobbyBiscuit

  • Manager
  • ******
  • Posts: 11611
  • Rating: 51
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8802 on: November 02, 2018, 03:04:12 PM »
I know what you were saying. I'm suggesting that you might be wrong. That his unfitness was more of an issue for us than his positioning as evidenced by the times he did play centrally for us but was still poor. Unless you are saying that the times he played wide were detrimental to his confidence to the extent that it affected his performances when played centrally? If so, you could be right.

If his fitness was so much of an issue, why play him wide?  Rather than playing him in a position where he wouldn't have to do that defensive work?  Or why play him at all?

Either way, you seem to suggest that playing him in his favoured position several times from the bench (it had increased from a few from your first post, but that's being pedantic) was enough of a reason not to play him there? I think the guy deserved a decent chance in his favoured postion from the start, at least once or twice.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2018, 03:06:45 PM by BobbyBiscuit »
It's not about escaping. It's about getting out with a bit of dignity.
If you're in it, don't fucking moan about it, make it yours and leave a mark

Offline RicoS321

  • Midfield Maestro
  • ****
  • Posts: 2710
  • Rating: 66
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8803 on: November 02, 2018, 04:24:04 PM »
If his fitness was so much of an issue, why play him wide?  Rather than playing him in a position where he wouldn't have to do that defensive work?  Or why play him at all?

Either way, you seem to suggest that playing him in his favoured position several times from the bench (it had increased from a few from your first post, but that's being pedantic) was enough of a reason not to play him there? I think the guy deserved a decent chance in his favoured postion from the start, at least once or twice.

Because he was here and he needed some game time, GMS wasn't consistent, McGinn was only here for the second half of the season and we had Christie who was better than Stewart through the centre too. There were a multitude of reasons why he didn't get regular game time there, but I'm arguing that it was mainly through his own lack of fitness that he wasn't given a decent chance as opposed to the bit part opportunity. He didn't earn the right to get a decent chance and so he was left to pick up the scraps of opportunities out wide and sub appearances centrally (he did start at least one game in the centre at Pittodrie as I remember thinking it could be his chance, but I think he was just okay). You, correctly, questioned my suggestion that Wright should be played centrally for us against the hun and other games. For me, Stewart is in the same boat. Neither necessarily deserve an opportunity and should just take the chance they get. However, I quite liked Stewart and I didn't think he did that a bad job out wide, but I could see why he wasn't given a long run in the team as I don't think he worked hard enough - at that level of fitness he was just a half decent squad player.

Online manc_don

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 16871
  • Rating: 76
  • Hi Chris.
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8804 on: November 04, 2018, 02:27:39 AM »
Hearts pumped by the tims today, they seem to be finding their form now.  I was hoping they'd wait until after the cup final.

Online manc_don

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 16871
  • Rating: 76
  • Hi Chris.
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8805 on: November 08, 2018, 10:16:16 PM »
I see Christie seems to be getting a game for the dhimmery these days.  According to a tim mate he's one of their best performers...just in time for the final.  Probably no coincidence that they're now scoring goals in the league after a tepid start.

Offline RicoS321

  • Midfield Maestro
  • ****
  • Posts: 2710
  • Rating: 66
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8806 on: November 08, 2018, 10:40:26 PM »
Away to sign a new deal too. He was good for us, and left a better player than when he arrived with more experience. We've basically enhanced the value of one of their assets. Difficult to tell if it was worth it.

Offline TheDeeDon

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 627
  • Rating: 19
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8807 on: November 09, 2018, 06:38:17 AM »
Away to sign a new deal too. He was good for us, and left a better player than when he arrived with more experience. We've basically enhanced the value of one of their assets. Difficult to tell if it was worth it.

That is the problem for me, potentially enhancing the values of their players whilst overlooking our own kids.

There was no doubt he did do a job for us, bar his last few months where he didn't really do much, but possibly better all round not to have loans between clubs in the same league.

Offline Ten Caat

  • Star Striker
  • ****
  • Posts: 1743
  • Rating: 36
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8808 on: November 09, 2018, 09:46:08 AM »
Richard Gordon said on radio last night  that a month ago Christie was very open to signing a pre-contract with us in January but that the Dhims were forced into playing him because of their ever increasing injury list and there is now no way it will be happening and as Rico says, is likely to sign a new deal with them shortly.

We are paying the price now for not showing a bit of ambition in August. I think £500k would have got him. £650k would definitely have got him. With what we are paying Man U for the Wilson loan, effectively we would have been paying £300-450k for an asset we would have owned with a decent chance of making a big profit in a couple of years
« Last Edit: November 09, 2018, 11:26:19 AM by Ten Caat »

Offline Lencarl

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 782
  • Rating: 5
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8809 on: November 09, 2018, 10:01:47 AM »
Notice Johnny Hayes on the bench last night but never used again.

Worth a punt for him in January ?
NEVER plan ahead.

Offline BigAl

  • SAGA Subscriber
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 11588
  • Rating: 195
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8810 on: November 09, 2018, 10:18:16 AM »
Notice Johnny Hayes on the bench last night but never used again.

Worth a punt for him in January ?

No from me
Ship sailed long time ago.
Steve warm his seat up

Offline Ten Caat

  • Star Striker
  • ****
  • Posts: 1743
  • Rating: 36
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8811 on: November 09, 2018, 11:27:33 AM »
No from me
Ship sailed long time ago.

Correct

Offline KennyFuckinPowers

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 619
  • Rating: 8
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8812 on: November 09, 2018, 12:18:01 PM »
Aye, no from me also, and that is painful to say, I still genuinely miss him & I think the team still misses his style of play. You were guaranteed goals, assists and a minimum of 7 out of 10 performance every week from him.

But we need to look forward, if GMS was more direct and tried less of the flicks and tricks, he could be a very similar threat for us.
Fuck the Tories

Offline rocket_scientist

  • Club Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 5667
  • Rating: -144
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8813 on: November 09, 2018, 12:36:24 PM »
It's like a woman... or should I say "relationship" these days as so many of you are faggots. Although I've no experience of that so no, it's like a woman.

If you split up with a girlfriend, going back to her never works. Hayes is gone. He is part of our history. He's lost two years of his development and his career. He can't hope to be still match sharp.

However... in the poor standards that is the SPFL and to address our own attacking threat weakness, he would probably be more effective than what we have. Fuck knows. Rules are there to be broken.

Ancient Sound, Modern Noise

Offline RicoS321

  • Midfield Maestro
  • ****
  • Posts: 2710
  • Rating: 66
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8814 on: November 09, 2018, 02:26:28 PM »
If you split up with a girlfriend, going back to her never works.

Nonsense. If she's desperate, you'll get a good few months of top class BJs and biffing. Once that's over you ditch her again and she'll hate you forever.

I'd have him back in January.

Offline LA-Don

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 877
  • Rating: 22
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8815 on: November 10, 2018, 04:55:56 PM »
Another good result for hearts!!! The meltdown continues. Also credit to us for that win last week!

Offline Ten Caat

  • Star Striker
  • ****
  • Posts: 1743
  • Rating: 36
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8816 on: November 10, 2018, 07:51:06 PM »
Another good result for hearts!!! The meltdown continues. Also credit to us for that win last week!

To be fair to Hearts they are suffering horrendously with injuries, both their first choice centre backs and strie pairing are out for months.

On second thoughts, fuck 'em  :rofl:

Offline TheDeeDon

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 627
  • Rating: 19
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8817 on: November 10, 2018, 09:21:39 PM »
Another good result for hearts!!! The meltdown continues. Also credit to us for that win last week!

I was listening to the game on Sportsound this afternoon and at the final whistle that was my final thought.

Offline Ten Caat

  • Star Striker
  • ****
  • Posts: 1743
  • Rating: 36
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8818 on: November 11, 2018, 02:24:01 PM »
Well deserved point for Livi against the Dhims. They were on the back foot for most of the game understandably, but in no way was it a backs to the wall performance and certainly had a few chances to score themselves. Hope DM was watching...

Offline Jute

  • Club Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 8248
  • Rating: 20
Re: Todays fitba
« Reply #8819 on: November 11, 2018, 08:46:29 PM »
Boca v River currently on Freesport in final of copa libertadores Final first leg. Currently 2-2 and atmosphere is amazing despite no away fans. Got to get to a game at La Bombanera.



Yes Manc I know you’ve been.