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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2008, 11:05:34 PM »
That's the most excited i've been watching a tennis match, probably ever.

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2008, 11:09:30 PM »
Excellent tennis well done Andy Murray
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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2008, 11:10:38 PM »
Absolutely delighted. :D

Brilliant, Andy! There's no reason why he cant beat Roger Federer a 3rd time!

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2008, 11:15:07 PM »
Delighted!!!!

Not sure who to support in the final though...

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2008, 08:04:25 AM »
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Brilliant stuff, Murray was sensational!

I just hope the extra days rest that Federer has had does not make the difference in the final, as Murray has a good record against him.

C'mon Andy!!!!!!!!!!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2008, 08:37:35 AM »
I've never really taken much notice of the tennis - not really my kinda sport. I watch it now and then, and enjoy the odd game of Virtua Tennis. But I thought I'd do a bit of research into Andy Murray ... actually, I just wanted to see where he was from in Scotland.

Never realised Murray was a kid from Dunblane Primary. According to Wikipedia, he kid under a desk during the massacre 12 years ago, and attended a number of after-school groups where Thomas Hamilton was the group leader.

Must be a horrific thing to harbour in your memory for life!

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2008, 08:46:24 AM »
I've never really taken much notice of the tennis - not really my kinda sport. I watch it now and then, and enjoy the odd game of Virtua Tennis. But I thought I'd do a bit of research into Andy Murray ... actually, I just wanted to see where he was from in Scotland.

Never realised Murray was a kid from Dunblane Primary. According to Wikipedia, he kid under a desk during the massacre 12 years ago, and attended a number of after-school groups where Thomas Hamilton was the group leader.

Must be a horrific thing to harbour in your memory for life!

He very rarely talks about it.  He's mentioned it in his book apparently, but apart from that he normally refuses to discuss it.

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2008, 08:56:16 AM »
Not surprised! Not exactly something any normal, sane human being would want to boast about.

I was in a car crash about two years ago and killed a wee 5 year old girl who'd stepped out onto the road. Although for the first 48 hours the memory was so vivid in my mind, little over a week later I couldn't remember a thing about the accident. Something in my brain wanted to block it out and, to be honest, I don't really want to remember it ... hence why this is the first time I've spoken about it to anyone in the past 18 months.

I can't imagine seeing my school pals being shot dead infront of me by my scout master. It's difficult enough to forget that sort of thing when you're a grown adult. But to have it happen to you when you're a primary school child, and know it will stay with you for the rest of your life is something I certainly do not envy.

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« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2008, 09:34:20 AM »
I've never really taken much notice of the tennis - not really my kinda sport. I watch it now and then, and enjoy the odd game of Virtua Tennis. But I thought I'd do a bit of research into Andy Murray ... actually, I just wanted to see where he was from in Scotland.

Never realised Murray was a kid from Dunblane Primary. According to Wikipedia, he kid under a desk during the massacre 12 years ago, and attended a number of after-school groups where Thomas Hamilton was the group leader.

Must be a horrific thing to harbour in your memory for life!

A girl I went to school with, couple years younger.....she was shot in the foot at Dunblane, obviously survived, but she walked with a limp.

She would get it!

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2008, 09:56:21 AM »
I've never really taken much notice of the tennis - not really my kinda sport. I watch it now and then, and enjoy the odd game of Virtua Tennis. But I thought I'd do a bit of research into Andy Murray ... actually, I just wanted to see where he was from in Scotland.

Never realised Murray was a kid from Dunblane Primary. According to Wikipedia, he kid under a desk during the massacre 12 years ago, and attended a number of after-school groups where Thomas Hamilton was the group leader.

Must be a horrific thing to harbour in your memory for life!

Last summer I was at a boozy BBQ just after Wimbledon and were talking about Murray. My friends boss was there and being English has a dislike for him as he said he wanted England to lose at the football in the past. He waited until it was just me and another random guy there before really letting rip and his argument ended in "I wish Thomas Hamilton had shot that cunt". At that point anger descended over me and I just had to leave the party as I was going to smack him.

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2008, 10:04:05 AM »
A girl I went to school with, couple years younger.....she was shot in the foot at Dunblane, obviously survived, but she walked with a limp.

She would get it!
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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2008, 10:14:15 AM »
Last summer I was at a boozy BBQ just after Wimbledon and were talking about Murray. My friends boss was there and being English has a dislike for him as he said he wanted England to lose at the football in the past. He waited until it was just me and another random guy there before really letting rip and his argument ended in "I wish Thomas Hamilton had shot that cunt". At that point anger descended over me and I just had to leave the party as I was going to smack him.


I'm so sick of that comment he made (which was clearly fucking tongue-in-cheek getting used against him time and time again. 95% of Scots want England to lose at football. For many of us nothing is more pleasing. The English are the fucking same. Fuck them if they slag off Murray for saying that.

He did talk briefly about the shooting in his book. He says he cant really remember it. He hid under a desk. He didn't see anything. He didn't know what had happened until quite sometime later. He also reveals that his Mum once gave Thomas Hamilton a lift although he didn't know him much beyond that.

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2008, 10:27:40 AM »
Last summer I was at a boozy BBQ just after Wimbledon and were talking about Murray. My friends boss was there and being English has a dislike for him as he said he wanted England to lose at the football in the past. He waited until it was just me and another random guy there before really letting rip and his argument ended in "I wish Thomas Hamilton had shot that cunt". At that point anger descended over me and I just had to leave the party as I was going to smack him.

I find it hilarious that so many of the English get so bitter about people in Scotland not supporting them. When they come out with shite like that, it just makes me want to keep heckling them a bit more.

What they fail to understand is firstly that what Andy Murray said, he said jokingly; and secondly, that by getting so riled and descending to that kind of level, they make themselves look just as stupid - if not more so - as someone who genuinely does want England to lose at everything.

For that reason and that reason only, I would love to see Murray win Wimbledon, just to shove it right up those bitter, narrow-minded bastards who whine about him not supporting England in the World Cup. To see the look on their faces would be a thing of beauty.

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2008, 10:32:11 AM »

I'm so sick of that comment he made (which was clearly fucking tongue-in-cheek getting used against him time and time again. 95% of Scots want England to lose at football. For many of us nothing is more pleasing. The English are the fucking same. Fuck them if they slag off Murray for saying that.

They were still banging on about it on 5live this morning.  Of course they start off by saying he is moody, arrogant, monotone etc etc but they always come back to "and he said he wouldn't support England".

Perhaps he succeeds because he is arrogant, some people would call it confident, instead of the usual negative, "it's the taking part" attitude that many British sportsman have.  Strangely I don't remember many folk complaining that Bradley Wiggins was an arrogant bastard who didn't deserve our support when he said that if he didn't win 3 golds it would be a failure.  

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2008, 10:47:55 AM »
Andy, like Tim Henman suffers at the hands of the media from the misconception that he's a dour faced cunt. Having read parts of Murray's book it's not the case. But Tim didn't go out of his way to try and "prove" that he wasn't boring because he didn't care and Andy's the same. It's ridiculous to label him "moody". He's just competitive.

There's a difference between being arrogant and confident. To be honest he doesn't strike me as either of those. He knows his limitations. He knows who he should be beating and who he's maybe not capable of beating yet.

Rafa Nadal was the only player in the top 10 that Murray hadn't beaten. Now there's not a top player who he hasn't beaten. There's no reason why he can't win tonight.

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2008, 11:04:10 AM »
Taken from 606 on the BBC, written without any hint of irony whatsoever:

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I'll support Murray because he is British but not as passionately as I would support him if he was English especially after his anti-English comments. But then that is very normal. I view Murray as merely a person to give Britain pride and to allow me to wind up my foreign freinds on other tennis messageboards, especially the American ones.

So Murray is merely a means to an end for me. If he loses, I can always just say that he is Scottish anyway.

So apparently it's okay for them to wind up other nationalities, but not for Murray to do it to them: the classic Little England paranoia. That's without even discussing the 'Scottish if he loses' nonsense.

And although I loathe his paper with every ounce of my being, here's an explanatory article from the Daily Mail's Des Kelly, the (English) journalist to whom Murray originally made the infamous "anyone but England" remark:

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Why Joke is Wearing Thin for Andy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-1033143/Des-Kelly-Federer-8217-s-winner-taking-defeat-like-man-son.html

Let me return to the topic of Andy Murray and this whole anti-English argument for what I truly hope is the last time - although I doubt it.

Some of the nonsensical criticism Britain's No 1 has received is laced with such misplaced venom and outrage that it makes me despair.

So, for the hard of thinking, let me state here that: I did the interview with Andy Murray and Tim Henman a couple of years back where Murray talked about 'supporting whoever England were playing against'.

It was a clearly a sarcastic remark. He was responding to teasing from your columnist about Scotland's absence from the 2006 World Cup and derisive laughter from the mischievous Henman.

It was reported in that context in this newspaper at the time and the exchange was run as a transcript.

A couple of days later a red-top got excited about the comments, lifted a couple of them into a 'story' that took on a life of its own and from there the truth was lost.

It is astonishing how this has run and run.

An extremely talented columnist pal of mine declared unequivocally the other day that: 'I don't think his remarks about England were a joke. There are some people who just don't like the English and I believe in my marrow that Murray is one of them.'

Based on what?

I did the interview - and it was a joke, as I have said before. And what marrows have to do with it I don't know, but it is certainly time to call a halt when vegetables like David Mellor pop up on the Today programme to lecture Murray about how to wave a Union Flag.

Murray has been variously decried as 'disgusting' and 'yobbish' for doing nothing more than show a bit of Celtic fire during a fabulous comeback by people who clearly have no understanding of the excitement sport generates.

They are the same Phillipa Space types who used to accuse Henman of lacking passion.

The critics also ignore the fact that Murray has improved greatly at Wimbledon this year and is Britain's best and only hope of success for years to come.

He doesn't drink, behaves himself off court, has a steady girlfriend, a fine family and has just moved back into the world's top 10. Something to be proud of, I'd say.

As for this England v Scotland thing, personally, after some of the twaddle I've read this past fortnight from 'patriotic' Brits, I wouldn't hold it against him if he decided to become German.

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2008, 11:19:00 AM »
If he wins I'll look forward to Little England's froth if he wraps himself in a Saltire rather than a Union Jack, although sadly I suspect that his "advisors" will be keen he does the latter

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2008, 11:26:07 AM »
If he wins I'll look forward to Little England's froth if he wraps himself in a Saltire rather than a Union Jack, although sadly I suspect that his "advisors" will be keen he does the latter


I think you may be right but I know after the anti-England saga he'll be dying to wave the Saltire.

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2008, 02:23:34 PM »
If he wins I'll look forward to Little England's froth if he wraps himself in a Saltire rather than a Union Jack, although sadly I suspect that his "advisors" will be keen he does the latter

Sadly, I think you're right, in that he'll probably bottle it and either wave a Union Jack or nothing at all (assuming he doesn't bottle it during the match itself).

However, why should he or his advisors be worried about what people in England think? They're the ones who have blown an entirely innocent comment out of context, so fuck 'em. It's not like he depends on them for funding any more. If he was a 13 year-old dependent on LTA funding then fine, but the guy's already a millionaire and about to be named as one of the world's top 4 players.

If I was in his position, I would be keen to antagonise them as much as possible, because it clearly grinds their gears really badly to see some snotty-nosed, uppity Jock winning anything where their toffee-nosed, inglorious-failure, personality-vacuum Henman failed so regularly; and nothing he ever does will win them round, given the rampant ignorance which currently accompanies their frenzied condemnations of him as a person.

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Re: Andy Murray
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2008, 02:30:24 PM »
Sadly, I think you're right, in that he'll probably bottle it and either wave a Union Jack or nothing at all (assuming he doesn't bottle it during the match itself).

However, why should he or his advisors be worried about what people in England think? They're the ones who have blown an entirely innocent comment out of context, so fuck 'em. It's not like he depends on them for funding any more. If he was a 13 year-old dependent on LTA funding then fine, but the guy's already a millionaire and about to be named as one of the world's top 4 players.

If I was in his position, I would be keen to antagonise them as much as possible, because it clearly grinds their gears really badly to see some snotty-nosed, uppity Jock winning anything where their toffee-nosed, inglorious-failure, personality-vacuum Henman failed so regularly; and nothing he ever does will win them round, given the rampant ignorance which currently accompanies their frenzied condemnations of him as a person.
quite, and I'd love him to do that, however if he did the english press would harass him constantly to a quite ridiculous degree, proving a point I suppose, but also being an almighty pain the ass when he is busy trying to win major tournaments