Author Topic: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal  (Read 3033 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline BigAl

  • SAGA Subscriber
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 11778
  • Rating: 204
Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« on: August 15, 2018, 09:43:19 AM »
So the day of reckoning is getting closer for the tribunal to set the fee for young Ferguson.
Saw this article in The Sun ( I know, I know I shouldn't) and thought it worthy of sharing.
The boy at Hamilton is surely totally fucking deluded and it appears as if their request is now up to £1.2m  :laughing:

Surely his performances since joining us have got fuck all to do with any price put upon him.

Highlights of the article include him sucking The Huns boaby regarding Docherty (correct me if I'm wrong but this is totally different as he was under contract) and also the fact that Ferguson has played all four Europa League games for Aberdeen. So which two games did I completely miss out on in the past few weeks.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3068226/lewis-ferguson-hamilton-aberdeen-tribunal-club-philosophy-blow/


Steve warm his seat up

Offline wee toon red

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 560
  • Rating: 20
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2018, 10:53:28 AM »
I think the Hamilton boy is right to demand as much as he can get and I'd back his right to do so all day long. Whether he gets it or not is another matter but put the shoe on the other foot and we'd be raging if one of the cheeks signed our hottest prospect in years and a tribunal only gave us a pittance.
Can you blame the man for going out of his mind temporarily?

Offline CvB

  • First Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 251
  • Rating: 17
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2018, 11:13:41 AM »
we'd be raging if one of the cheeks signed our hottest prospect in years and a tribunal only gave us a pittance.

which is normally exactly what they do.

Is it not a calculation based on age, years of development etc?
Just because the cash giddy guffy hoors pay stupid money for somebody it doesn't mean that then sets the bar for all future transfer activity.

Offline RicoS321

  • Midfield Maestro
  • ****
  • Posts: 2957
  • Rating: 71
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2018, 11:22:53 AM »
I think it is also based on the amount they have offered to retain the player - in writing - at the time of (AFCs) purchase. Plus development costs.

For example, if they have offered him a 4 year deal at £1,500K per week (£300K approx total) we'd be liable for some or all of that. That's what they've valued him at and so we shouldn't be expected to pay significantly higher than that at tribunal with development costs added.

That's certainly my understanding anyway, but I could be wrong.

Offline Jute

  • Club Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 8405
  • Rating: 19
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2018, 11:52:14 AM »
I think it is also based on the amount they have offered to retain the player - in writing - at the time of (AFCs) purchase. Plus development costs.

For example, if they have offered him a 4 year deal at £1,500K per week (£300K approx total) we'd be liable for some or all of that. That's what they've valued him at and so we shouldn't be expected to pay significantly higher than that at tribunal with development costs added.

That's certainly my understanding anyway, but I could be wrong.

Think tribunal can also take into account any previous offers made to Accies for Ferguson when setting the compensation.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2018, 01:08:34 PM by Jute »

Offline tlg1903

  • Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 4379
  • Rating: 49
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2018, 12:03:19 PM »
Performance has didn't diddly squat to do with it. It's down to how much they invested in the player combined with the contract they offered.  It will likely be a couple of hundred k
Decided to start a football blog, feel free to have a read here.

http://foxintheboxon.blogspot.co.uk/?view=flipcard

Offline CvB

  • First Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 251
  • Rating: 17
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2018, 12:05:31 PM »
to be honest, what's the point of trying to second guess these corrupt bastards anyway?

Suspensions upheld, suspensions rescinded, docking teams 2 points because it fits into a prearranged "decider" schedule (Hearts), not following up the throwing of an elbow...we'll get fucked over, others don't. It's the way it is and we just have to doff our caps, mumble "thank you very much sir" and be on our way.

Offline A llad insane

  • First Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 427
  • Rating: 10
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2018, 07:19:52 PM »
I can see them settling the fee at around the £250k mark & tbh i think he's looking worth every penny of that  :thumbsup:

Offline Lencarl

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 783
  • Rating: 5
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2018, 07:39:10 AM »
Derek McInnes insists Aberdeen won't get drawn into a war of words with Hamilton Academical over the value of Lewis Ferguson. Maybe it is about time that Aberdeen did start saying what they think. Another club in the SPFL does it on a daily basis and their fans and the Scottish media lap it up.  :frown:

PS....SPFL panel will be instructed to ignore everything he’s done since pitching up at Pittodrie.
And that includes his acrobatic goal in the defeat against the Clarets at Turf Moor.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2018, 09:14:05 AM by Lencarl »
NEVER plan ahead.

Offline RicoS321

  • Midfield Maestro
  • ****
  • Posts: 2957
  • Rating: 71
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2018, 09:40:15 AM »
Derek McInnes insists Aberdeen won't get drawn into a war of words with Hamilton Academical over the value of Lewis Ferguson. Maybe it is about time that Aberdeen did start saying what they think. Another club in the SPFL does it on a daily basis and their fans and the Scottish media lap it up.  :frown:

PS....SPFL panel will be instructed to ignore everything he’s done since pitching up at Pittodrie.
And that includes his acrobatic goal in the defeat against the Clarets at Turf Moor.

We don't need to say anything because there are reasonably clear guidelines which the panel will look at. They will not respond to shitey paper talk or base their decisions on what Hamilton rep said in the Sun. There is no conspiracy either way (if anything the conspiracy would likely favour us as the bigger team), they'll base the value on development cost (as per the rules) and Hamilton's offer to the player in writing and any offers they received in writing prior to our signing him. It's absurd that any discussions are even happening in public, I'm not sure what Hamilton think they'll gain.

Offline wee toon red

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 560
  • Rating: 20
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2018, 09:58:07 AM »
We don't need to say anything because there are reasonably clear guidelines which the panel will look at. They will not respond to shitey paper talk or base their decisions on what Hamilton rep said in the Sun. There is no conspiracy either way (if anything the conspiracy would likely favour us as the bigger team), they'll base the value on development cost (as per the rules) and Hamilton's offer to the player in writing and any offers they received in writing prior to our signing him. It's absurd that any discussions are even happening in public, I'm not sure what Hamilton think they'll gain.

Maybe an attempt at frightening other teams off from approaching other youngsters? Not that it should work of course but would at least be some kind of explanation.

Never mind the players though, maybe we should be signing their entire youth development set up?
Can you blame the man for going out of his mind temporarily?

Offline CvB

  • First Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 251
  • Rating: 17
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2018, 11:18:37 AM »
Maybe an attempt at frightening other teams off from approaching other youngsters?

They probably need a catchy slogan to make it stick.

Stranger Danger did the trick back in the day, so maybe something similarly catchy  ;D

Offline wee toon red

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 560
  • Rating: 20
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2018, 02:14:06 PM »
They probably need a catchy slogan to make it stick.

Stranger Danger did the trick back in the day, so maybe something similarly catchy  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3FnCiRpdQ4
Can you blame the man for going out of his mind temporarily?

Offline OxfordDon

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 741
  • Rating: 51
  • Occupation: Pedant
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2018, 04:51:25 PM »
They probably need a catchy slogan to make it stick.

Stranger Danger did the trick back in the day, so maybe something similarly catchy  ;D

I liked the one borrowed from Bertram Russell around the time Sevco were trying to poach McInnes - "better Red than Dead"

Offline KennyFuckinPowers

  • First Team Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 796
  • Rating: 10
  • 2 Kinds of trouble in this world, living, dying.
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2018, 06:53:44 PM »
Still no update on this? Meeting began almost 6 hours ago I believe.
They will never forget you till somebody new comes along.

Offline A llad insane

  • First Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 427
  • Rating: 10
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2018, 07:02:19 PM »
I heard it would be tomorrow before we hear ::)

Offline A llad insane

  • First Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 427
  • Rating: 10
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2018, 08:10:38 PM »
It appears it was decided & the club were happy with outcome, although no fee was mentioned. On official site now.

Offline Ten Caat

  • Midfield Maestro
  • ****
  • Posts: 2124
  • Rating: 32
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2018, 08:28:22 PM »
If we are happy with it then it surely follows Hamilton cannot be. Await next statement from their arse of a chairman

Offline Elgindon

  • Star Striker
  • ****
  • Posts: 1228
  • Rating: 22
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2018, 08:36:27 PM »

 Not sure the guy on this forum is ITK,or having a pessimistic guess.Hope he's right http://www.acciesworld.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1248&start=20

Offline manc_don

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 17129
  • Rating: 75
  • Hi Chris.
Re: Lewis Ferguson Tribunal
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2018, 08:44:56 PM »
Was a bit of a nothing statement from the club